@@Mrgotdammit35 because stro is a realist. He knows that Activision doesnt need the pro league at all, they could decide to just axe all of it and would see no drop in profits. Hecz and co are overselling their importance in this world, all they do is complain about cod over and over, year after year, i actually have no idea why they still play it considering if youve listened to them for the last 4 years all they do is hate on every aspect of the game
@@Jockuptownyou’re spot on with that one. I’d bet that over 99% of the player-base are casuals with no interest or even the slightest knowledge that the CDL even exists.
@@Jockuptown first comment i've read in years that GETS IT. COD is the most successful FRANCHISE year after year, Activision do NOT NEED CDL. Tjhey ALSO don't need the PRO PLAYERS TRASHING their game = causing negative publically that affects the sales of their game. so why the fuck would they ever help these people. Casual players don't care for the complaints the pros have. Astro gets that it seems while hecs thinks he's bigger than COD and can demand shit to be changed from a multi billion dollar company who does nothing to promote/sell their game.
If anyone at optic sees this, please get hastro on the podcast more! Or even a business oriented podcast with him and hecz like the NRG duo podcast would be awesome
Y’all just overlooked an insane content idea, The Optic Grill-Off. Put each of them against each other each episode, say in front of a grill. You know half those dudes will be straight comedy as their burning shit left and right.
Loved hearing the talk from everyone on how to fix what's going on with competitive COD and I think Hastro nailed it the best at the very end, why don't we just go back to the old format again like how MLG and CWL did it with open bracket tournaments with 100's of teams and pool play with bigger brackets that don't allocate for teams in winners to only have to win 2 matches to get to the grand finals? That old format is what worked so well man! Thank you for bringing that up Hastro. Also I know people are divisive on it but no more franchising lets go back to regular org names please.🙏
Yeah that’s not happening. Orgs had to pay so much to get into the league that unless the orgs get their money back, none of the owners are gonna agree to that
It’s still possible to have a open bracket and keep the 8-12 CDL official teams. All based off seeding. Let’s be honest 25mill a team the. CDL isn’t going away anytime soon but there is a middle ground.
The problem is that he isn't a player. At the end he brought up the gb thing with WW2 and the players know it sucked but he wasn't aware of it. He's a great dude with good ideas but scump and formal know Activision won't ever let any of them happen.
I wish Seth and formal could stay on topic this had so much potential and with random side convos and talking over other people's points it was frustrating. I swear every time hastro talked everyone would talk over him about nothing.
@@Xander477 yeah that weed be bringing em deceiving spirits into their lives. But pretty sure they had to talk behind the scenes. To me i think you have to forward wit the devs and not fool around otherwise they dnt take u seriously .
Seth and Formal together is way too trolly so it was kinda expected but at the same time, it was nothing they haven't already talked about or know for many years so it obviously didn't catch their attention
Hec bro i died when you pulled the stack off the shelf and slammed it "how many next years?" I swear to god brother you said that shit so true from the heart. love you man
All he proved is that no matter what, hecs isn't buying cod for ESPORTS. he buys the game for fun, which is why the stack Is so high. all he's doing is proving why they don't need to listen to small minority, to fix something 95 percent of the playerbase doesn't care for.
God I feel bad for Hastro. Clearly trying so hard to actually fix issues and get a better game and the rest are just joking around. Hecz really should be on these owners calls too
@@spIashyyy I think I have like $300 in. With its expected price jump most likely to double over its peak @ .000088, that’s looking like a 500% gain in price over its next massive rally. Seth’s account is gonna be looking spicy.
It feels so good to hear them show BO3 love. One of my most favorite COD eras. From the gameplay itself to the content surrounding the game. People wanted boots on the ground but that was the perfect mix in my opinion. The weapons, the maps, streaks were nuts. Man I fucking loved BO3
As an avid league play player in BO2 and an AM who competed at MLG Anaheim Ghosts. There is a certain vibe that comes with going to an event and competing with teams like: Curse, Justus, and Fear who were Pro/AM teams. It would be the first time you met your online buddies and got to spend a weekend doing what you love. With an average team we placed 36th. You had everything to prove and an actual platform to prove it. Open bracket forced you to play well, you can't change my mind.
For those of you that don't know btw @13:00 they banned fireworks for new years because they wanted to avoid unnecessary injures that would send more people to hospital during the pandemic. They have so many injuries every year from that, so they were trying to avoid stressing the hospitals so they could focus on Covid cases.
Always a great podcast. As a cod player, I truly hope the devs do something to better the competitive scene. No questions asked, it's gotta happen, for so many of the right reasons.
I like the good cop/bad cop dynamic of Hastro and H3CZ, both brought up good points and ideas. And T2P is always comedy LUL that side of the table had me rolling XD
I'm not sure whats going on with Hitch but the Greenwall is praying for you and your family - Don't want to start assumptions but he's not one to postpone a tournament...especially with how bad the scene needs it unless it was something pretty serious. Genuinely hope everything is okay
What was that little look Hector and Stroh Gave each other at 52:47 when Formal mentioned the Top 4 Ams v the Bottom 4 Pro Teams.... What aren't you telling us?
13:00 in italy new years is a big deal, we fire fireworks till like 3 am on new years, growing up in naples I saw the streets like literally covered in smoke from the fireworks lowkey kinda wild but fun times
Bo2 League play was amazing inwas a prestige master when i saw one guy one time joining a multiplayer lobby and i saw this big green eagle (master rank ) on league under is profile and i shocked from that day one i never play multiplayer ever again all i wanted to do was grind league play and get that master rank , Bo2 was the best cod ever for me just for that , the fact that you could get that rank then joined lobbies and show that you were good not just on pubs but also in League play was amazing , is mind blowing how 10 years later they haven’t implemented that in the game we went backwards in terms of rank play in call of duty , every game has figured out , we had it once , Bo2 and never again .
I glanced over at the video while I worked and I wondered what happened to scump's shirt? hoodie was pretty close to his skin tone thought he was topless lol
I think activision really needs to be worried because let’s just say an developer strikes gold and takes over the COD space. You’ll have teams like an Optic saying “we’re going to skip cod this year” and now you have these pro teams focusing on the next best thing and COD dies. They really needs to focus and make an great game with features at launch and not 80% through its lifespan.
imagine if movie companies had people like hecz that cared about the way things looked and put so much care into lil details movies would be pieces of art
@@bradschmitt1990 no they're not. As a fan myself they had a few good ones. Even then the best ones have a lot of plot holes for example the new spider man
The biggest issue I have with the CDL as a league is there’s such a longgggg offseason by the time the next season starts you’ve completely forgot storylines etc etc, it just makes no sense
Seth and Formal together is so trolly lmao it's like sitting beside your best friend in class who you have the funniest moments with, can hardly focus or get anything done but they still had productive convos
I love ‘stro. He is so articulate when he’s talking about his frustrations with the game.
I hate him. He looks like he doesn’t belong and no one respects him or his thoughts😂you can see it in formals, scumpi and hecz face😭
@@Mrgotdammit35 because stro is a realist. He knows that Activision doesnt need the pro league at all, they could decide to just axe all of it and would see no drop in profits.
Hecz and co are overselling their importance in this world, all they do is complain about cod over and over, year after year, i actually have no idea why they still play it considering if youve listened to them for the last 4 years all they do is hate on every aspect of the game
@@Jockuptownyou’re spot on with that one. I’d bet that over 99% of the player-base are casuals with no interest or even the slightest knowledge that the CDL even exists.
@@Mrgotdammit35 hating a man that literally saved OpTic... smh
@@Jockuptown first comment i've read in years that GETS IT. COD is the most successful FRANCHISE year after year, Activision do NOT NEED CDL. Tjhey ALSO don't need the PRO PLAYERS TRASHING their game = causing negative publically that affects the sales of their game. so why the fuck would they ever help these people. Casual players don't care for the complaints the pros have. Astro gets that it seems while hecs thinks he's bigger than COD and can demand shit to be changed from a multi billion dollar company who does nothing to promote/sell their game.
Formal is my favorite human. So fucking funny. The podcast is always 3x better when he and Seth are together.
Whos your favorite non human ?
@@absalom3183 Your mom
@@riverme2994 mines your dad
Allen.
Or Shottzy… You could argue that his movement is otherworldly.
If anyone at optic sees this, please get hastro on the podcast more! Or even a business oriented podcast with him and hecz like the NRG duo podcast would be awesome
We can just leave Hecz off of that one.
@@Th0rity ??
You off that pine park
totally agree. i loved hearing from Hastro and more of serious/business stuff
Bump
Never really knew who Hastro was but he's a wise dude. Good representation of what you'd like to hear from an owner
Hastro is a GOAT.. no cap.
Hastro taught me how to pub stomp back in bo1 lmao
Hector: "That happen to me once in a bouncy house"
LMFAO bro I don't know why but I lost it
🤣he really mentioned that while AB got fucking ran thru
I just lost it too
Cod / cod mobile meme ruclips.net/video/scYQZg7-KGY/видео.html
fucking same bro
Yooo istg 🤣🤣🤣
Y’all just overlooked an insane content idea, The Optic Grill-Off. Put each of them against each other each episode, say in front of a grill. You know half those dudes will be straight comedy as their burning shit left and right.
This would be a banger
I was thinking the same thing. OpTic Grill-Off would be fire.
This def. needs to happen!!!
blind taste test at the end
Yoooo they need to get on this asap. Even just a cook off would be 🔥
W guest line up, i thought it was illegal for this many legends to be in the same room at once.
We need a podcast with Hecz, Hastro, BigT and Rambo.
I miss big t so much
@@DirtyDeeds-ow1ch where’d he go?
@@Spray_n_Pray1551 he was on a podcast with H3CZ not long ago iirc. Dudes been chilling
@@Spray_n_Pray1551 just doesn’t post anymore he’s big in the stock market and does streams around that sometimes
Imagine
More Hastro!! Really enjoyed him.
Loved hearing the talk from everyone on how to fix what's going on with competitive COD and I think Hastro nailed it the best at the very end, why don't we just go back to the old format again like how MLG and CWL did it with open bracket tournaments with 100's of teams and pool play with bigger brackets that don't allocate for teams in winners to only have to win 2 matches to get to the grand finals? That old format is what worked so well man! Thank you for bringing that up Hastro. Also I know people are divisive on it but no more franchising lets go back to regular org names please.🙏
Yeah that’s not happening. Orgs had to pay so much to get into the league that unless the orgs get their money back, none of the owners are gonna agree to that
@@mutiny_77_77 yea fr like orgs payed twenty five million or are playing it through installments, makes no sense for them to say yes
It’s still possible to have a open bracket and keep the 8-12 CDL official teams. All based off seeding. Let’s be honest 25mill a team the. CDL isn’t going away anytime soon but there is a middle ground.
And i for one miss the “passion pit”
@@mutiny_77_77 you mean agree to no franchising?
I liked hastro being on here and as much as i love formal and scump i felt as though he was constantly cut off with valid topics.
The problem is that he isn't a player. At the end he brought up the gb thing with WW2 and the players know it sucked but he wasn't aware of it. He's a great dude with good ideas but scump and formal know Activision won't ever let any of them happen.
he still got his points across when they focused up, being the pro players though for many years, they already know what's up a tad bit more
Stro has level-headed thoughts, I appreciate it. I just hope his optimism isn’t for nothing
I can watch this Podcast all day and not get bored. It’s always interesting and funny 😁
Stro is a top tier guest, very informative! we need another podcast with him!
Hecz brings up tobijizzle
Matt: *coughs*
Seth: what?
Matt: it was just something in my throat
😂😂
Time stamp ?
Had formal and tobijizzle some sort of beef of why did he cough? :D
@@ludwigkostmann4278 nah they prob don't even know each other. Formal was just making a joke cuz he heard the word "jizz" i think
I wish Seth and formal could stay on topic this had so much potential and with random side convos and talking over other people's points it was frustrating. I swear every time hastro talked everyone would talk over him about nothing.
Same!!!
Completely agree with you bro, so freaking important what he was saying, even hecz was acting fool for this podcast.
@@Xander477 yeah that weed be bringing em deceiving spirits into their lives. But pretty sure they had to talk behind the scenes.
To me i think you have to forward wit the devs and not fool around otherwise they dnt take u seriously .
Seth and Formal together is way too trolly so it was kinda expected but at the same time, it was nothing they haven't already talked about or know for many years so it obviously didn't catch their attention
Like a pair of 8 year olds, need splitting up formal one end scump the other and the 2 grown ups in the middle, I agree was mad frustrating
Hastro is a great addition to the podcast, love the chemistry everyone has
Hec bro i died when you pulled the stack off the shelf and slammed it "how many next years?" I swear to god brother you said that shit so true from the heart. love you man
All he proved is that no matter what, hecs isn't buying cod for ESPORTS. he buys the game for fun, which is why the stack Is so high. all he's doing is proving why they don't need to listen to small minority, to fix something 95 percent of the playerbase doesn't care for.
I agree with Formal. Having a good COD game is the starting point. If we can at least get that much, I would be ok with it for now.
That would be nice.
God I feel bad for Hastro. Clearly trying so hard to actually fix issues and get a better game and the rest are just joking around. Hecz really should be on these owners calls too
Stro’ is a great addition to the podcast! Only speaks when necessary and always has interesting comments on all the topics.
33:44 CoD talk starts
Thank you.
This needs more likes
Goat
Buckle up, boys and girls. We're in for a good one.
These podcasts really do make my day. Thank you guys & happy new year !
*Hecz pulls a stack of Cod games*
Formal: "What? How are you bad at Cod?"
😭💀
Hearing Seth say he’s all in on SHIB was just fantastic
I’m legit $100 in… hearing him say he’s 10K in just made me shiver lmao
@@spIashyyy I think I have like $300 in. With its expected price jump most likely to double over its peak @ .000088, that’s looking like a 500% gain in price over its next massive rally. Seth’s account is gonna be looking spicy.
It feels so good to hear them show BO3 love. One of my most favorite COD eras. From the gameplay itself to the content surrounding the game. People wanted boots on the ground but that was the perfect mix in my opinion. The weapons, the maps, streaks were nuts. Man I fucking loved BO3
As an avid league play player in BO2 and an AM who competed at MLG Anaheim Ghosts. There is a certain vibe that comes with going to an event and competing with teams like: Curse, Justus, and Fear who were Pro/AM teams. It would be the first time you met your online buddies and got to spend a weekend doing what you love. With an average team we placed 36th. You had everything to prove and an actual platform to prove it. Open bracket forced you to play well, you can't change my mind.
34:40 starts talking about COD.
I’m italian and i’m living in Italy, and Naples’ fireworks are top tier no cap
I’m still getting to know Stro and I think he’s awesome so far. So glad he’s let us be a part of his team
For those of you that don't know btw @13:00 they banned fireworks for new years because they wanted to avoid unnecessary injures that would send more people to hospital during the pandemic. They have so many injuries every year from that, so they were trying to avoid stressing the hospitals so they could focus on Covid cases.
The look on Hecz face when Stro said the games have gotten better is hilarious 😂😂😂
LMFAO
Always a great podcast. As a cod player, I truly hope the devs do something to better the competitive scene. No questions asked, it's gotta happen, for so many of the right reasons.
This has been the best episode yet . Matt and seths dynamic is impeccable
I like the good cop/bad cop dynamic of Hastro and H3CZ, both brought up good points and ideas. And T2P is always comedy LUL that side of the table had me rolling XD
#1 podcast in the world!!!
OpTic Grill-off needs to happen for sure!!! Several episodes, have a one v one cook off each video and have a bracket to see who comes out on top!!!
Legendary podcast, with a bunch of legends! OpTic x Envy to the Moon
Y'all are the voice of the community. Thank you for trying to help with the problems. Y'all are GOATED!!!!
So many legends in one video
I'm not sure whats going on with Hitch but the Greenwall is praying for you and your family - Don't want to start assumptions but he's not one to postpone a tournament...especially with how bad the scene needs it unless it was something pretty serious. Genuinely hope everything is okay
please have Hastr0 as a guest or lead other OpTic Podcasts in the future. his insight and view on things is always awesome to hear.
Thanks guys! Much love. I hope cod gets better. Becoming a pro player is one of the hardest things yo do ever!
Warzone should be played by all the teams in the last day of Tournament, Once all the matches are done for extra points.
What was that little look Hector and Stroh Gave each other at 52:47 when Formal mentioned the Top 4 Ams v the Bottom 4 Pro Teams.... What aren't you telling us?
Glad i wasnt the only one that noticed that. Owners obviously have more info than is made public, need that office goss
25:25 bro that face scump makes us actually hilarious i went back like 10 times just to see the way he says “no shit” 😂😂😂
Hastro being introduced to the chaos of the podcast is hilarious
13:00 in italy new years is a big deal, we fire fireworks till like 3 am on new years, growing up in naples I saw the streets like literally covered in smoke from the fireworks lowkey kinda wild but fun times
Welcome to the podcast Hastro, Good to have you mate
Bruh I hope Hastro is on more, I know this is old, but I've been catching up on podcasts and this was dope.
seeing everyone at this table on this pod. makes me happy :)
We need 2 hour long podcast and some drinks and pine for the vibes. I can watch these all day
This is the double duo podcast. 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Yo Toby Jizzle lmao. Matt something in my throat . Had me dying. Gotta love Formal.
Great episode! I was super stoked that Mr.Hastr0 was on this podcast!
Bo2 League play was amazing inwas a prestige master when i saw one guy one time joining a multiplayer lobby and i saw this big green eagle (master rank ) on league under is profile and i shocked from that day one i never play multiplayer ever again all i wanted to do was grind league play and get that master rank , Bo2 was the best cod ever for me just for that , the fact that you could get that rank then joined lobbies and show that you were good not just on pubs but also in League play was amazing , is mind blowing how 10 years later they haven’t implemented that in the game we went backwards in terms of rank play in call of duty , every game has figured out , we had it once , Bo2 and never again .
love that hitch reads the ads everytime
so much respect to hecz and what hes done with his brand the past decade.
at the end
Formal "its him not me i promise im being good"
Scump just laughing
just like brothers
This has to be the funniest OpTic Podcas to date
Bro I love how Davis just pops up randomly for the ad reads lmao
Loved the dynamic of these 4 goats of cod
Really enjoyed this line up
I love those podcast , I think having some time stamps would be really helpful. Great session though everyone!
I glanced over at the video while I worked and I wondered what happened to scump's shirt? hoodie was pretty close to his skin tone thought he was topless lol
Love the podcast. 10/10. But could the volume be higher ? It sounds low compared to other videos...
someone say Play 2 Earn👀
43:55 "Eat him alive. Cancel him! Grab your pitchforks." 😂😂😂😂
Would be nice to get a Davis episode in the future after his.. promotion? Unless I missed an episode.. I have to look now lmao
Seth and Matt are fucking geeking this episode 😂😂😂
I think activision really needs to be worried because let’s just say an developer strikes gold and takes over the COD space. You’ll have teams like an Optic saying “we’re going to skip cod this year” and now you have these pro teams focusing on the next best thing and COD dies. They really needs to focus and make an great game with features at launch and not 80% through its lifespan.
YALL NEED A OPTIC/NV COOKING CHALLENGE!!!
I love hitch's compliment whenever he talks about the sponsors🥰🥰
imagine if movie companies had people like hecz that cared about the way things looked and put so much care into lil details movies would be pieces of art
@@L1LmeatGang facts don't care about ur feelings
Movies are pieces of art lol, art is subjective, so if you don't like them, that's on you my guy... Horrible comparison.
This man never watched any MCU movies my God they are packed
@@bradschmitt1990 yes marvel movies, the pinnacle of art
@@bradschmitt1990 no they're not. As a fan myself they had a few good ones. Even then the best ones have a lot of plot holes for example the new spider man
it actually made my day having stro on the podcast
Good to see hastro in the podcast !
Hope you are feeling all good by now Matt Craig.
Been following you guys for years and I gotta say, we are at PEAK OPTIC CONTENT. It makes me so happy and yall fulfill my days
If they think Train is impressive they've never heard of Mr. Beast.
I enjoyed Hastro's POV on the current COD perspective
Love y'all. The GOATS of the CoD scene and esports in general. Keep it up ~True OpTic fan since the OG days
21:02 LMAOOOO that happened to him in a bouncy house he says 😭😭😭
The Big Guy Hastr0 himself on the podcast 💪🏼
11:58 this is exactly what happens in Oahu every year. It's insane
Optic cooking challenge.
We need to see it!!
Bro formal is soo trolly now that he’s retired he just says what ever he wants lmao
Hawaii banned fireworks years ago and this year they added on crazy fines. This year and every year before is crazy lit
The biggest issue I have with the CDL as a league is there’s such a longgggg offseason by the time the next season starts you’ve completely forgot storylines etc etc, it just makes no sense
Hecz has finally brought it back!!!!
“I’m just gonna go ahead and say it”
54:26 yeah bring back the old CWL bracket dude Champs during that time was awesome cause of the dark horse teams from the AM scene!
Need one of these with Hector, Stro, Hitch, and Rambo,
this is such a good crew for a podcast huge W
Scump and formal are hilarious together
Seth and Formal together is so trolly lmao it's like sitting beside your best friend in class who you have the funniest moments with, can hardly focus or get anything done but they still had productive convos
Formal needs to be on every podcast ever... Not just optic, just all of them lol
Y’all HAVE TO do an OpTic Grill Off series !!
I love the lineup. Keep up the content!
Gastronomy is such a good addition to the pod. 👏🏼
The side convos gotta be frustrating lol when stro or hecz making a good point the t2p just shooting from the hip on the side