This is such a deep topic with so much to unpack. Early early life trauma, whether it came from our parents, siblings, or schoolmates can lead us to believe in our core that we are not lovable. Yet Krishna has made our hearts his residence and is loving us unconditionally - more than we can even imagine - at every moment!. And He has the final word on the matter! Many devotees confuse self-love with egoism, yet nothing could be further from the truth. Srila Prabhupada is the most deeply humble - but make no mistake - he has NO self-esteem issues! He KNOWS from whom he came!
Great conversation. Thank you both for giving permission within the devotee community to change the unhealthy ways we relate to ourselves that are affecting our bhakti project
Is a special and beautiful subject that many had discover time ago for different motives necessaries, for this I don't believe both be only the uniques are speaking and practicing it 😔 Maybe both now more in public of a form (Mahatma Das Prabhu since more time ago with his specific course of "Selfcare"❤️) winning space and followers trying do alliances sharing different. Great diversity of teachers of whose hear and be inspired and maybe one day surrender to one being friend of all servant of all since Font ❤Hare Krsna🙏😊
Self love as love of self, distinct from loving “yourself” or “myself”. We’re called to relate to self as ascarya but not to relate to “ourselves” as ascarya. I think its important to specify that self is a matter of Atma tattva rather than referring to the body and mind. Self love for folks who are that they’re the body and mind is more like self esteem.
I would say that the atma is to be loved for its "ascharya-ness", while our "conditioned side" is to be also loved, in the form of self-compassion and acceptance, on which basis we will of course work to change and improve. I personally believe that if we have a negative orientation toward our conditioning (hating it, rejecting it, shaming us for it, and many times denying/repressing it) that only augments its presence and influence in us.
This is such a deep topic with so much to unpack. Early early life trauma, whether it came from our parents, siblings, or schoolmates can lead us to believe in our core that we are not lovable. Yet Krishna has made our hearts his residence and is loving us unconditionally - more than we can even imagine - at every moment!. And He has the final word on the matter!
Many devotees confuse self-love with egoism, yet nothing could be further from the truth. Srila Prabhupada is the most deeply humble - but make no mistake - he has NO self-esteem issues! He KNOWS from whom he came!
Great conversation. Thank you both for giving permission within the devotee community to change the unhealthy ways we relate to ourselves that are affecting our bhakti project
Love this and personally so needed
Is a special and beautiful subject that many had discover time ago for different motives necessaries, for this I don't believe both be only the uniques are speaking and practicing it 😔 Maybe both now more in public of a form (Mahatma Das Prabhu since more time ago with his specific course of "Selfcare"❤️) winning space and followers trying do alliances sharing different. Great diversity of teachers of whose hear and be inspired and maybe one day surrender to one being friend of all servant of all since Font ❤Hare Krsna🙏😊
Self love as love of self, distinct from loving “yourself” or “myself”. We’re called to relate to self as ascarya but not to relate to “ourselves” as ascarya. I think its important to specify that self is a matter of Atma tattva rather than referring to the body and mind.
Self love for folks who are that they’re the body and mind is more like self esteem.
I would say that the atma is to be loved for its "ascharya-ness", while our "conditioned side" is to be also loved, in the form of self-compassion and acceptance, on which basis we will of course work to change and improve. I personally believe that if we have a negative orientation toward our conditioning (hating it, rejecting it, shaming us for it, and many times denying/repressing it) that only augments its presence and influence in us.
Two of my favourite teachers in one podcast. Haribol!
I never had another opinion then the one heres Presented....
Pranama, thanks so much.
Most Devotee stuck in trap of indriya-paratantra-jñāna....please come out of it