No not at All.. Why? I own a tesla model 3 performance and a Kia e-niro premium 2021 model. Both great cars, plus and minus on Both, but top and the best ev out there
I actually own (owned) both cars, Tesla model 3 dual motor for 3 years and Kia Niro for 1 year. Ended up selling Tesla recently as Tesla had too many things that annoyed me and I overall enjoyed Kia more. I did felt that Tesla had longer range but I agree that range difference was not as big as I thought based on advertised maximum range. This was especially apparent during winter season when Tesla's battery drained alarmly quickly whereas Kia seem to be less affected by cold temperature. Maybe it was heat pump on Kia. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. I agree with what you say. I really liked the eNiro. Kia are really doing amazing at EVs now with the EV6 and the new EV9 (which I have video from at the LA Auto Show) looks cool as well although it's still a concept.
Love your videos mate! Just ordered my e-niro and it is in no small part due to the thorough coverage you have done on your channel. Invaluable insight for a buyer!
Awesome, thank you! It is but if you use Ionity chargers make sure you use the optional extra monthly payment so it is discounted or you may get a surprise as Ionity is fast but expensive. If your in the UK but I remember your in Canada!
I own both. At 130km/h, Tesla model 3 is the only ev that keep good range at that speed . Also when the Niro says x km or x % left, it is really what is left, at 2% you are in turtle mode and 5km after 0 you are out of juice. With the model 3LR you have still more than 40km left when you arrive at 0. Also if you want to keep the range, you can click on the preheat message, it will stop preheating, keeping more range... And the last, on long distance, with the Tesla, 20 min pause are enough whereas you need 40-45 Min with the Niro!
Thanks for the feedback! Only an owner of both really knows best so it is really interesting to here that and hopefully anyone else will see your comment who is trying to decide between them both.
Nice range comparison. Quite different cars, do you want a saloon or a hatch? Higher ride or lower. If you'd like a smaller version of the Niro the range on Kia Soul and Hyundai Kona are just about the same and as hatchbacks larger items can be fitted in than the Model 3 as long as rear seats are down, One comment on the video, would have been improved if the numbers you were speaking came up on the screen so you could see Tesla and Kia side by side at a glance especially when you switch from miles done to range left to different methods of comparing watts used per mile.
Thanks for the feedback and I will make sure to add that in future videos. They are different that is true. And now you can add in the IONIQ 5 and EV6 if your looking at EVs because they have even better range and technology. In normal times this would lower the cost of the existing models but with the silicon shortage the prices are probably higher on everything. And there is also a new eNiro as well now. So lots of options. I was very impressed with the range of this eNiro compared to the Tesla as I said in the video.
@@TechInTheCar I have the Soul so the view of the screen and controls v familiar ! Though I do think the screens on the sister Ioniq (older one) and Kona from Hyundai look better more modern. Only change I'm making to the Soul is replacing the horrible Nexen tyres even though they've got plenty of range left.
Well done lads, however if I may : it be nice if, at interval, you populated a table and displayed it somewhere (upper-righthand corner perhaps) so we can keep track. I too am pleased that Hyundai, Kia, VW and now PoleStar are coming with "comparable" models. However the main thing to remember is that those cars will do similar mileage with a considerably bigger battery. On the other hand; as long as they keep the prices down -- consumers won't care. 400km is an excellent number for base autonomy .. over 600km {unless in a really cold climate} is not all that useful.
Hi Viktor, So you see in EV menu energy spent for battery conditioning? Did you check battery temp. via OBD? Under what SOC and outside/battery temperatures? First time i hear a E-Niro resp. Kona does this. ( There is even a petition to Hyundai/Kia to allow preheating. ) When was your model produced? Is it possibly a 2022 already?
Not sure when you filmed but the referral program has now stopped for Tesla miles. Nothing wrong at all with the indicators, I wish the rear bulbs were bigger though. In my opinion there are three reasons why people by the 3LR over the eNiro, 1 is the supercharger network. Even though it'll be open to all EVs soon, it's still a big bonus. 2 is they don't need it to be so practical (being a sedan), and 3 is the blistering acceleration at 4.2 seconds (late 2020 onwards). That's why I chose my Tesla. (I tried waving at other Tesla drivers, nothing happened 😂)
What do you think of the interior in the Tesla. I hate lots of recycled plastic. Currently I am inclined towards a Mercedes EQ A or C but a 300 mile range would be nice. Problem with Mercedes at the moment is due to the chip shortage they don't have adaptive cruise control fitted unless you are ok waiting for a long time for a factory build.
I think the interior looks nice. I’m not sure it’s the best quality. Having said that even the German car companies are not using as good quality materials inside cars as they used to. I’d say Kia and Hyundai are making better interiors at the mid to premium right now. I haven’t driven those Mercedes and I hope I’ll be able to get into some in 2022. As for the delay it is effecting everyone. I too have a wait until November! I don’t think you want to buy an electric car without adaptive cruise personally.
I. Have the opportunity of driving both. The Tesla is better by far with its software and autopilot and drivetrain. I also love the Kia because it’s very efficient. Even though it’s rated at 239 EPA miles I still get well beyond that in my driving experience. I would recommend it either EV. You can’t go wrong but the Kia will give you more range than you expect especially during the Winter months.
I agree they are both great cars but I do think the EV6 has an advantage objectively over the Teslas right now but it's down to personal choice. I just hope my video was informative and helped pose that question.
@@TechInTheCar I own the 2020 Niro EV Platinum Edition and I love. On a full charge I get about 310 miles. I drove around 82 miles round trip to work and it’s spot on even when using the HVAC. I highly recommend this EV.
Misleading title. It measured the onscreen estimate only. It did not even get near empty, and it absolutely does not show the Tesla did not go as far. More importantly, it skipped over the charging time, which is super important for long distance travel. The Tesla sacrificed some power to get ready to charge faster, which would have made the trip easier and faster overall. If you were not going to count charge it time, why prep the tesla for charging? Also strange how much time you spent talking about the ease of use it Kia card, but did not show how easy the Tesla was. You literally just plug it in. You don’t even need to get a card out or swipe or anything.
In making a video you have lots of logistics to take into account and the truth is we didn't have time in the day to run either down so we had to stop where we did and compare the remaining range. Your totally right about the Tesla Supercharger network which was at the location we stopped and Clive had his Tesla plugged in 15 mins and was on the way and I had to spend an hour there. However I did say that the Tesla only finished with less range because of the pre-heating. The new Kia EV6 is even better than the e-Niro as well. But Tesla are the trendsetters and they have many amazing features and this video isn't meant to disparage Tesla in anyway. It is just an example of the same distances driven and the Kia has more range when we got to the charger which was interesting.
@@TechInTheCar factually incorrect review, no other car maker has done what with the card? You don’t need a card for Tesla it’s plug and walk away, what a one sided rubbish review.
You are right I didn't mention the Tesla charging network and ease of use because I take it for granted and expect it. However for every other EV there are many different charging providers with different apps and systems and that gets confusing so the Kia Charge card is a great help. Now that Tesla has started opening up the supercharging network to other EVs in the Netherlands I fully expect this to happen worldwide and every EV will have access so another big benefit of Tesla will be lost.
@@markkeiro7696 In the Netherlands the Kia card is not there anymore since August 2021 and you can plug in the E-niro the same way without a card into a Tesla charger.
Is the charging time super important? A niro gets around 250- 300miles per charge, so a 500 - 600 mile day of driving has one charge, which may set you back 20 minutes relative to the Tesla. If you sip electrons in the 20 -80% range on the way, this will be less.
I am sorry but every time you call the other car.... the sound is terrible and very hard to listen to. Maybe you should be filming on the other car and then edit the video using the audio or the full video from the other car and not do it like this. This way it is very hard to watch, not enjoyable at all. Sorry but that was what I felt... PS: the audio from when you are on the Tesla is simply terrible... was it the car or the microphone?
It was a phone call between us. Using the Bluetooth and picked up by my microphone in the car. I did say back what he told me just in case it wasn't clear on the video. I hope that helped. Sorry about the sound not being up to the level expected. Thanks
@@TechInTheCar no problem. It is just some feedback so you can improve. Appart from that detail about the sound, it was a very nice video and well put together. Cheers!
Tesla is getting passed by other auto makers. Just look at Lucid, Rimac and Rivian. 10 years ago, you could say Tesla stood alone, as only contender who could have given Tesla run for it's money, Nissan didn't even try to compete in high end EV market. But now, everyone is innovating faster than Tesla, and Tesla still has effectively only ONE model ( Model 3 and bloated Model 3). Model S and X are sold in such low volume it's effectively irrevent to Musk's ambition to conquer the world. Not to forget about Hyundai/ Kia and host of Chinese manufacturers such as BYD/ Nio/ Xpeng etc who are also doing fine job producing exciting EVs which rival Tesla
This guy is a joke right? I have M3P and currently drive a rental 2022 Niro EV and Tesla are light years away from this junk. Almost every category Tesla smoked this junk.
@@TechInTheCar I have a lower back problem and it can go at anytime after jumping in my friends Tesla’s 3 last week. yesterday I walked into a Kia showroom and jump into a Niro after the drive I ordered one and it’s getting delivered at the end of the month. I’m a realist I can’t afford a Y and I only need the Aircon when my engine is switch off so Niro ticked all my boxes. one more thing about Tesla’s in Hong Kong everyone on the road is driving one I bet people are finding it hard to spot there own car anyway good review and hi from Hong Kong
@@TechInTheCar hi its not bad i dont like how much road noise i can hear but apart from that im happy. gutted i cant watch youtube on the appleplay but i dont think that kia fault. do i regret not buying new shape no do i regret not buying tesla 3 no. but one day i will see if the seating on a model Y is better. still love not driving a model 3 like everyone else at every traffic light👍
Do you think the indicators on Teslas are stupid?! Are you surprised by the outcome?
No not at All.. Why?
I own a tesla model 3 performance and a Kia e-niro premium 2021 model. Both great cars, plus and minus on Both, but top and the best ev out there
I hate those indicators! But you are right both are great cars.
@@TechInTheCar why?
They don't stay down! So you don't know if your still indicating or not. I accept you will get used to it but it is a strange way to do things.
@@TechInTheCar I love that.. So Nice to drive with. Why dl you need Them to be down or up? Point less...
I actually own (owned) both cars, Tesla model 3 dual motor for 3 years and Kia Niro for 1 year. Ended up selling Tesla recently as Tesla had too many things that annoyed me and I overall enjoyed Kia more. I did felt that Tesla had longer range but I agree that range difference was not as big as I thought based on advertised maximum range. This was especially apparent during winter season when Tesla's battery drained alarmly quickly whereas Kia seem to be less affected by cold temperature. Maybe it was heat pump on Kia. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. I agree with what you say. I really liked the eNiro. Kia are really doing amazing at EVs now with the EV6 and the new EV9 (which I have video from at the LA Auto Show) looks cool as well although it's still a concept.
Good Kia 👍
Love your videos mate! Just ordered my e-niro and it is in no small part due to the thorough coverage you have done on your channel. Invaluable insight for a buyer!
Thanks. Very kind of you. I am happy to help.
Awesome comparison! I just discovered your channel today and subbed. That Kia card is brilliant.
Awesome, thank you! It is but if you use Ionity chargers make sure you use the optional extra monthly payment so it is discounted or you may get a surprise as Ionity is fast but expensive. If your in the UK but I remember your in Canada!
I own both. At 130km/h, Tesla model 3 is the only ev that keep good range at that speed . Also when the Niro says x km or x % left, it is really what is left, at 2% you are in turtle mode and 5km after 0 you are out of juice. With the model 3LR you have still more than 40km left when you arrive at 0. Also if you want to keep the range, you can click on the preheat message, it will stop preheating, keeping more range...
And the last, on long distance, with the Tesla, 20 min pause are enough whereas you need 40-45 Min with the Niro!
Thanks for the feedback! Only an owner of both really knows best so it is really interesting to here that and hopefully anyone else will see your comment who is trying to decide between them both.
Great review thanks ...waiting for my E-Niro
Thanks. Let me know when you get it what you think.
@@TechInTheCar will do
Nice range comparison. Quite different cars, do you want a saloon or a hatch? Higher ride or lower. If you'd like a smaller version of the Niro the range on Kia Soul and Hyundai Kona are just about the same and as hatchbacks larger items can be fitted in than the Model 3 as long as rear seats are down,
One comment on the video, would have been improved if the numbers you were speaking came up on the screen so you could see Tesla and Kia side by side at a glance especially when you switch from miles done to range left to different methods of comparing watts used per mile.
Thanks for the feedback and I will make sure to add that in future videos. They are different that is true. And now you can add in the IONIQ 5 and EV6 if your looking at EVs because they have even better range and technology. In normal times this would lower the cost of the existing models but with the silicon shortage the prices are probably higher on everything. And there is also a new eNiro as well now. So lots of options. I was very impressed with the range of this eNiro compared to the Tesla as I said in the video.
@@TechInTheCar I have the Soul so the view of the screen and controls v familiar ! Though I do think the screens on the sister Ioniq (older one) and Kona from Hyundai look better more modern. Only change I'm making to the Soul is replacing the horrible Nexen tyres even though they've got plenty of range left.
Love my Niro EcoHybrid. Has plenty of room for 6'4" driver. I am gettting over 55 mpg after 750 miles driven city and hwy.
That is amazing! You probably don't even remember what fuel is!
👍👍👍Nice video ,,but which one is more quieter and more comfortable???? Which have better suspension???Kia or Tesla ???
Well done lads, however if I may : it be nice if, at interval, you populated a table and displayed it somewhere (upper-righthand corner perhaps) so we can keep track.
I too am pleased that Hyundai, Kia, VW and now PoleStar are coming with "comparable" models. However the main thing to remember is that those cars will do similar mileage with a considerably bigger battery. On the other hand; as long as they keep the prices down -- consumers won't care. 400km is an excellent number for base autonomy .. over 600km {unless in a really cold climate} is not all that useful.
Thanks for the suggestion - It is a great idea and if I do another video like this then I will make sure that is included.
Great video well done, it’s funny you mention the indicators I took a model y to one of my bosses and I hated the indicator
Even BMW have stopped doing them now as well! And even Tesla have moved them to the wheel as well so I guess even Tesla didn’t like them!
Hi, great video. I've purchased the e niro 4+ and when you choose a DC charger as destination the Kia will preheat as well.
Thanks! Interesting that would be if you use the Kia navigation but I wouldn’t recommend that as Android Auto/CarPlay is superior.
Hi Viktor, So you see in EV menu energy spent for battery conditioning?
Did you check battery temp. via OBD?
Under what SOC and outside/battery temperatures?
First time i hear a E-Niro resp. Kona does this.
( There is even a petition to Hyundai/Kia to allow preheating. )
When was your model produced? Is it possibly a 2022 already?
Not sure when you filmed but the referral program has now stopped for Tesla miles. Nothing wrong at all with the indicators, I wish the rear bulbs were bigger though. In my opinion there are three reasons why people by the 3LR over the eNiro, 1 is the supercharger network. Even though it'll be open to all EVs soon, it's still a big bonus. 2 is they don't need it to be so practical (being a sedan), and 3 is the blistering acceleration at 4.2 seconds (late 2020 onwards). That's why I chose my Tesla. (I tried waving at other Tesla drivers, nothing happened 😂)
I filmed this before the EV6 launch and since then the EV6 has improved in every way other over the e-Niro
@@TechInTheCar comes at a cost though, EV6 is really nice!!
Yes, it is more and the e-Niro is a fantastic car if you didn't want or couldn't afford an EV6.
@@TechInTheCar EV6 isn't as efficient somehow?
@@computerbob06 The EV6 has more range depending on the trim.
What do you think of the interior in the Tesla. I hate lots of recycled plastic. Currently I am inclined towards a Mercedes EQ A or C but a 300 mile range would be nice. Problem with Mercedes at the moment is due to the chip shortage they don't have adaptive cruise control fitted unless you are ok waiting for a long time for a factory build.
I think the interior looks nice. I’m not sure it’s the best quality. Having said that even the German car companies are not using as good quality materials inside cars as they used to. I’d say Kia and Hyundai are making better interiors at the mid to premium right now. I haven’t driven those Mercedes and I hope I’ll be able to get into some in 2022. As for the delay it is effecting everyone. I too have a wait until November! I don’t think you want to buy an electric car without adaptive cruise personally.
I. Have the opportunity of driving both. The Tesla is better by far with its software and autopilot and drivetrain. I also love the Kia because it’s very efficient. Even though it’s rated at 239 EPA miles I still get well beyond that in my driving experience. I would recommend it either EV. You can’t go wrong but the Kia will give you more range than you expect especially during the Winter months.
I agree they are both great cars but I do think the EV6 has an advantage objectively over the Teslas right now but it's down to personal choice. I just hope my video was informative and helped pose that question.
@@TechInTheCar I own the 2020 Niro EV Platinum Edition and I love. On a full charge I get about 310 miles. I drove around 82 miles round trip to work and it’s spot on even when using the HVAC. I highly recommend this EV.
I agree, it is a great car and I really enjoyed it.
3:03 Middle lane hogging much?
I'm guessing that Kia Card couldn't be used at EH/Gridserve?
I didn't film the charging part the same day as I didn't have the card. I don't know if it will work at Gridserve.
Misleading title. It measured the onscreen estimate only. It did not even get near empty, and it absolutely does not show the Tesla did not go as far.
More importantly, it skipped over the charging time, which is super important for long distance travel. The Tesla sacrificed some power to get ready to charge faster, which would have made the trip easier and faster overall. If you were not going to count charge it time, why prep the tesla for charging?
Also strange how much time you spent talking about the ease of use it Kia card, but did not show how easy the Tesla was. You literally just plug it in. You don’t even need to get a card out or swipe or anything.
In making a video you have lots of logistics to take into account and the truth is we didn't have time in the day to run either down so we had to stop where we did and compare the remaining range. Your totally right about the Tesla Supercharger network which was at the location we stopped and Clive had his Tesla plugged in 15 mins and was on the way and I had to spend an hour there. However I did say that the Tesla only finished with less range because of the pre-heating. The new Kia EV6 is even better than the e-Niro as well. But Tesla are the trendsetters and they have many amazing features and this video isn't meant to disparage Tesla in anyway. It is just an example of the same distances driven and the Kia has more range when we got to the charger which was interesting.
@@TechInTheCar factually incorrect review, no other car maker has done what with the card? You don’t need a card for Tesla it’s plug and walk away, what a one sided rubbish review.
You are right I didn't mention the Tesla charging network and ease of use because I take it for granted and expect it. However for every other EV there are many different charging providers with different apps and systems and that gets confusing so the Kia Charge card is a great help. Now that Tesla has started opening up the supercharging network to other EVs in the Netherlands I fully expect this to happen worldwide and every EV will have access so another big benefit of Tesla will be lost.
@@markkeiro7696 In the Netherlands the Kia card is not there anymore since August 2021 and you can plug in the E-niro the same way without a card into a Tesla charger.
Is the charging time super important? A niro gets around 250- 300miles per charge, so a 500 - 600 mile day of driving has one charge, which may set you back 20 minutes relative to the Tesla. If you sip electrons in the 20 -80% range on the way, this will be less.
How come you say you are heading for Rugby when the road signs you are passing say that you are on the M23 south of London heading past Gatwick?
I was coming from that area! Also I may have used the driving footage from earlier because I didn’t have any closer!
MI5
Why did you not say anything about lane centering on the KIA?
Because it works very unobtrusively and there wasn’t much to say. Is there an issue you have with it?
Both good cars.. but Kia 👍⚡️
it's like comparing Ferrari to Amish horse buggy :)
They both have horses…
@@TechInTheCar the technology on Kia Vs Tesla alone is like comparing Ferrari and Horse buggy
I am sorry but every time you call the other car.... the sound is terrible and very hard to listen to.
Maybe you should be filming on the other car and then edit the video using the audio or the full video from the other car and not do it like this.
This way it is very hard to watch, not enjoyable at all. Sorry but that was what I felt...
PS: the audio from when you are on the Tesla is simply terrible... was it the car or the microphone?
It was a phone call between us. Using the Bluetooth and picked up by my microphone in the car. I did say back what he told me just in case it wasn't clear on the video. I hope that helped. Sorry about the sound not being up to the level expected. Thanks
@@TechInTheCar no problem. It is just some feedback so you can improve.
Appart from that detail about the sound, it was a very nice video and well put together.
Cheers!
Thanks!
Tesla is getting passed by other auto makers. Just look at Lucid, Rimac and Rivian. 10 years ago, you could say Tesla stood alone, as only contender who could have given Tesla run for it's money, Nissan didn't even try to compete in high end EV market. But now, everyone is innovating faster than Tesla, and Tesla still has effectively only ONE model ( Model 3 and bloated Model 3). Model S and X are sold in such low volume it's effectively irrevent to Musk's ambition to conquer the world. Not to forget about Hyundai/ Kia and host of Chinese manufacturers such as BYD/ Nio/ Xpeng etc who are also doing fine job producing exciting EVs which rival Tesla
I agree but I also expect Tesla will bring a big update to the market soon.
This guy is a joke right? I have M3P and currently drive a rental 2022 Niro EV and Tesla are light years away from this junk. Almost every category Tesla smoked this junk.
I disagree with you but that is why people buy different cars. As an unbiased person I preferred the eNiro but the Model 3 is still a fantastic car.
@@TechInTheCar I have a lower back problem and it can go at anytime after jumping in my friends Tesla’s 3 last week. yesterday I walked into a Kia showroom and jump into a Niro after the drive I ordered one and it’s getting delivered at the end of the month.
I’m a realist I can’t afford a Y and I only need the Aircon when my engine is switch off so Niro ticked all my boxes.
one more thing about Tesla’s in Hong Kong everyone on the road is driving one I bet people are finding it hard to spot there own car anyway good review and hi from Hong Kong
@@sko1beer How is your new car?
@@TechInTheCar hi its not bad i dont like how much road noise i can hear but apart from that im happy.
gutted i cant watch youtube on the appleplay but i dont think that kia fault.
do i regret not buying new shape no do i regret not buying tesla 3 no.
but one day i will see if the seating on a model Y is better.
still love not driving a model 3 like everyone else at every traffic light👍