4 MYTHS about Pawpaws (Asimina triloba)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @nathanmigdal7960
    @nathanmigdal7960 Год назад +18

    A good video about pawpaws with college-level content! When it comes to the annonacin in annonaceous species, I view it as a neurotoxin intended for insects. But when mammals, namely humans, create ways to consume annonaceous fruits beyond their seasonal cycles (frozen pulp and/or juices), the bioaccumulation of acetogenins can reach a threshold that is toxic. In essence, by breaking the "rules" pawpaws set on annual consumption, we may build a pathway toward neurological harm in humans. Eat these fruits when the trees offer them and no harm will come. Just remember to spit those seeds out :-)

  • @violethouseworth5943
    @violethouseworth5943 Год назад +11

    I bought 25 seeds 4 years ago and germinated them over winter in a laundry basket .25 seeds germinated and in the spring I planted them under a large tree.All in one bundle...Have done awesome as they like to be planted in groups.Last year I cut that large tree so they can have full sun now...Although now, I realize we have wild PawPaw in the area and I actually have three pawpaws in the back...brought here by the birds...Just love it...

  • @caheisey
    @caheisey 2 года назад +19

    I’ve been consuming a lot of pawpaw content and earnestly this is one of the most informative and succinct things I’ve seen on several of these topics, particularly explaining the acetogenins accessibly. Thank you!

  • @f.demascio1857
    @f.demascio1857 6 месяцев назад +4

    So much great info. We are getting our first fruits in 6 years. Water provision seems to be our biggest helper.

    • @madnessage
      @madnessage 3 месяца назад +1

      yes, I'm just learning the subject (on the northern border of the 5th climate zone in Eastern Europe lol) and thanks to this video I realized that the pawpaw option would be suitable for drip irrigation, as in intensive apple orchards. The content is top-notch, with such talents he should be doing more than just pawpaw)

  • @reidlingtheseedling
    @reidlingtheseedling Год назад +4

    Great content here. I find myself watching a lot of long form content to avoid the 10 minute and 1 second videos that are all regurgitations of each other, often displaying fundamental misunderstandings about how plants work. This video alone is enough for a sub.

  • @EgyptianQueenTiye
    @EgyptianQueenTiye 2 года назад +4

    I'm glad that you explained watering regarding it's photosensitive status. Again another great video.

  • @alfredopampanga9356
    @alfredopampanga9356 Месяц назад

    An intelligent presentation. Outstanding

  • @justinskeans3342
    @justinskeans3342 2 года назад +2

    Be cool to see paw paw Playlist from ya man love the videos

  • @bluegrassdiggers9030
    @bluegrassdiggers9030 2 года назад +5

    Very well put together video. Ive been growing pawpaw since 2017 and getting close to fruiting. Im also growing some interesting selections that I've gathered from select fruit in the wild.

  • @gewgulkansuhckitt9086
    @gewgulkansuhckitt9086 2 года назад +9

    I've been growing pawpaws in south Alabama for several years. In the middle of summer, young trees will often lose all their leaves and sometimes die down to the ground or die completely. This happened to a 12 foot tall pawpaw. Later that same year it sent up a shoot that grew back to its original 12 foot height (skinnier though) before the onset of winter.
    I suspect the summer sunlight here is more intense than in most of the US.
    Similarly by all accounts goji berries love direct sun but all the ones I planted in direct sun died when mid summer came around.

    • @abyssquick
      @abyssquick  2 года назад +9

      Yes, the more southerly you are the more shade they like to have, especially if they don't have access to water all of the time. Some people are growing them in central FL in mostly shade. I should add an addendum to include this. This was more for northerly growers who think they need shade to thrive.

    • @abyssquick
      @abyssquick  2 года назад +4

      I should also add -- there's the question of seedling sourcing as well -- are your trees sourced locally? Wild trees? Or are they nursery stock?
      I imagine locals would fare better in the longer summers. I doubt your sourtherly seed sources would survive up here in the cold, we get to -10F some years

  • @robliberace
    @robliberace Год назад +3

    As for the toxicity, we aren't worried about it but we realized that after I cooked paw paw bread (instant of banana bread), three of my family members had a slice or two and all three of us got stomach aches. We read that baking helps activate the toxins. I no longer bake with them but still enjoy them (no more than one a day) while they are ripening and am fine. Great vitamins and minerals!

  • @joshconeby
    @joshconeby 2 года назад +17

    On the toxicity point - some people in the Caribbean drink a tea made of soursop leaves and this has been tentatively linked to Parkinson's disease. That's assuming you drink it every day for decades - and annonacin and similar compounds are more concentrated in the leaves than the fruit. Pawpaws have more than soursops but you would probably have to eat a pawpaw (or several) a day for many decades and even then it's not certain.

    • @abyssquick
      @abyssquick  2 года назад +10

      Yes, the mode of ingestion is one variable.
      The issue with pawpaws is that there is a -lot- of acetogenin in some cultivars, ie "Rappahannock" has like 45X the acetogenin of a typical soursop.
      Luckily it is readily degraded by acidic medium, ie. human stomach acid -- almost entirely. I suspect most of the rest gets degraded by our pancreatic lipases
      Also on the same point is the fact that avocados have an equal amt. or even more acetogenin than pawpaws. We se no toxicity from those fruits (in human at least).
      Every time you eat a pawpaw or an avocado, you're eating shy of ~a gram of the stuff.

    • @inharmonywithearth9982
      @inharmonywithearth9982 2 года назад

      Alzheimers and Parkensons, CJD, CWD, BSE, Dementia, etc., these are all just some of the many names for Mad Cow disease. These are caused not from paw paws or any plants at all but from an improper diet of foreign animal protein molecules ( prions) that become trapped forever in vegetarian animals and human brains because they are not designed for scavenging animal organs or utilitizing these foreign animal corpse' proteins. If you want to know the simple truth just Google search ; are mad cow and alzheimers the same? There are so many scientific reports. Because of factory farming the vegetarian animals on a massive scale, caging and starving them into cannibalism by the usda accepted and encouraged common feeding of Tyson and other huge companies' chicken floor manure and waste slaughter scrap to the United States cattle even the sewage runoff from these farms is causing the cervid forms ( deer family) of wildlife drinking from polluted streams to contract CWD another of the many names for mad cow disease. There is no getting better for Alzheimers people (Mad Cow) just preventing it. JUST LOOK IT UP yourself and ignore the governments' meat lobby misinformation campaign.

    • @gg-gn3re
      @gg-gn3re Год назад +5

      @somerandomperson1503 1 old guy whom is likely to get parkinsons in the first place isn't a good basis to say "pawpaw causes parkinsons in 5 years"

    • @trilobES.
      @trilobES. 3 месяца назад +3

      @somerandomperson1503 For one case only and also in a man over 70 you can't go around saying that consuming such a lot of pawpaw causes atypical parkinson and eventually death. Any investigator would laugh at such a conclusion.

  • @johnwilcox4078
    @johnwilcox4078 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the info, you have some beautiful trees! I live in Wisconsin and have successfully grown pawpaws for over a decade. No thought was ever given to growing them in shade because the sun is not as direct here. For best fruit production, full sun is required. There is also no such thing as sun burn here, so it is not necessary to paint the trunks white. But severe winter temperatures can kill small trees and seedlings, and frost during blossom time is possible. But that goes with the territory being 100 miles north of it's natural range!

  • @ryanrite437
    @ryanrite437 Год назад +2

    Great content. Thank you!

  • @ritasenergyherbs3650
    @ritasenergyherbs3650 Год назад +1

    This is very informative and thank you for correcting myths about growing and propagating. Accroding to research of Dr. Jerry McLaughlin the potent medicinal properties come from acetogenins from the paw paw twigs, most potent in month of May when most biologically active.

  • @braukorpshomebrew6039
    @braukorpshomebrew6039 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this! I have some seedlings growing, and also ordered some larger trees. The tip about the shade/sun was something I was told. This is helping me with my planting plans!

  • @verderandy9161
    @verderandy9161 20 дней назад

    Gr8 video, quite informative. Just wanted top say you have some amazingly LUSH pawpaw trees!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. i am in zone 8A Georgia and just planting my first small trees this year. Randy/GA

  • @RocketPipeTV
    @RocketPipeTV Год назад +2

    Love your myth dispell. There are people who will tell you that you need to protect young pawpaw trees with shade cloth for years.
    These dudes have hundreds of thousands of “followers” and probably a “shady” cloth dealer (pun intended) supporting them.
    It’s incredible how people cannot think by themselves anymore.

  • @marisasanchez1699
    @marisasanchez1699 2 года назад +2

    This was really useful information. Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @PaulSkuta
    @PaulSkuta 7 месяцев назад +2

    I have a pawpaw which is self-fertile. It is the only plant on the property and, in fact, in the entire area. Flowers dependably every year and produces abundantly. You’re right about the flowers developing at different times. The flowers on this tree mature over a span of days to weeks. Not grafted and not any named variety. So make of this as you will.

  • @sabramarcroft
    @sabramarcroft 9 месяцев назад +4

    I have a pawpaw tree that is self fertile. It seems more so than average. I hand pollinated and had lots of flies from nearby compost and got a good amount of fruit from my approximately 7 year old tree. I am in western Oregon. There are no other pawpaw trees nearby.

  • @Labia.53
    @Labia.53 3 месяца назад +3

    A question from Spain, dear friend: does a Paw Paw tree grown from seeds bear fruit?

    • @deecarlock5781
      @deecarlock5781 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes. The wild ones are all from seed.

    • @Labia.53
      @Labia.53 2 месяца назад

      @@deecarlock5781 Thank you!!

  • @timcoddington2229
    @timcoddington2229 2 года назад +2

    another great video!

  • @spiritualspinster4222
    @spiritualspinster4222 8 месяцев назад

    I have 2 Pawpaw trees about 6 years old now. This is the first year that I have little Pawpaw's forming after bloom. The trees were only a foot tall when I planted them. They are now over 6 feet tall. I am very happy this spring! I only babied them the first 3 years after planting. Now I literally don't have to do anything to them other than throw some manure around them once a year. They maintain their own shape well and we get plenty of rain here in east Tennessee. I did water them weekly during a particularly dry summer but that's it. One is a Susquehanna, and the other is a Mango cultivar. The Susquehanna matured about a year earlier than the Mango.

  • @branchingoutpermaculturewi4766
    @branchingoutpermaculturewi4766 Год назад +2

    i didnt know about eating dried pawpaw thanks for the info good video mate

  • @SupraViperhead
    @SupraViperhead 2 года назад +2

    I just learned about Paw Paws last year and found a few patches in an area about a half hour away from my apartment; a good bit are out there this year, but none have ripened just yet. I'm working on getting a house and hope to plant some Paw Paw seeds there and see what happens.

    • @stanluckett
      @stanluckett 9 месяцев назад +1

      When you gather up the seeds put them on a damp paper towel,fold it over and repeat with about 10/15 seeds ,put it in a large bagged keep it in your refrigerator for about 3 months then plant.

    • @stanluckett
      @stanluckett 9 месяцев назад +1

      Large baggey

  • @FolkRockFarm
    @FolkRockFarm 11 месяцев назад

    Nicely done. I've been obsessed with Pawpaws these last few years now and am eagerly waiting my first crop! Have you ever had problems with stem cankers? One of my trees, i think Susquehanna has these gnarly cankers on the trunks, there isn't much information to find yet but it sounds like Blue Stem Disease which is still unknown as to what causes it. Going to try to do a mudpack over it and see if I can outcompete the bad fungus with good fungi, we'll see!

  • @tennray
    @tennray 4 месяца назад

    great video! Very last part bit concerning as the newest craze I guess you could say is freeze drying. What if a person does that with paw paws.

  • @Pay-It_Forward
    @Pay-It_Forward 2 года назад +1

    Look forward to more videos. Annonacin varies in solubility by 40 fold depending on many factors, temp, pH, Ethanol, water based solvents in food, glycerin. It's a topic for more research. something that I just read is that alcohol reduces water solubility? that's very odd, as it is usually the inverse of that. something I'm going to check into. will get back to you.

  • @Marco-fn6kg
    @Marco-fn6kg Год назад +1

    my paw paw was around 20 feet tall 12 years old no fruit ever but it produced on its own 3 years ago i since have planted 5 more trees all flowering as well and the harvests are massive now

  • @WhistleLad
    @WhistleLad Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @SomeoneCommenting
    @SomeoneCommenting 6 месяцев назад +1

    If those acetogenins were so toxic I would be dead a long ago because we used to have all these soursop family fruits at home. Custard apple, soursop, etc. When it was season, we would eat them almost daily. We even make juice with the soursop, it's better than eating it, unless you get the very sweet cultivar. Hard to intoxicate yourself since the fruit is so different when ripe and unripe. It gets very soft to the touch and you can smell the fruit. That's why it unfortunately doesn't make it a good supermarket fruit, it's too delicate for transport and spoils in a few days if not eaten as soon as it ripens.

  • @christianmedley3373
    @christianmedley3373 Год назад +2

    I just found a plant hiking in Missouri

  • @waynepruett2492
    @waynepruett2492 Год назад +2

    if you were going to plant 2 pawpaw, what distance do you recommend between these two trees? Thanks.

    • @loriki8766
      @loriki8766 Год назад

      I have 2 in my rather urban yard. We planted them about 12' apart but I've read that anywhere from 8'-15' apart is fine. For the most fruits, pick 2 wildly different cultivars.

    • @Phavahg
      @Phavahg 4 месяца назад

      @@loriki8766 We did 15' apart, with a garden pond in between. They're also at the downhill part of our property in Lexington Ky, and get lots of underground runoff from our roof. Started producing fruit at 6 years, but in 2024 (at 9 yrs old) they've had a bumper crop, probably thanks to regular rain this summer. Not a single problem with insects, unlike my apple and pear trees.

  • @alastairwilliams9550
    @alastairwilliams9550 Год назад

    Such beautiful trees. I have three different annona a, do you think this would grow at 19°S in the dry tropics?

  • @joannc147
    @joannc147 Год назад

    Excellent information, thank you! I have ONE small tree that has begun to colonize. Oops. Think I need to cull that back to allow room for growth. Wonder if a “colony” can fertilize within its own group?

  • @opreapetru404
    @opreapetru404 4 месяца назад

    well done

  • @DeadCat-42
    @DeadCat-42 Год назад

    I have three trees growing, just planted four more. Done are KSU, but must are from fruit I found wild in the area I grew up in. (Se Ohio).
    I plan on planting seedlings in the wooded areas around my neighborhood .

  • @denbez863
    @denbez863 10 месяцев назад

    thanks very useful video. Want to plant it at my garden

  • @missourimongoose8858
    @missourimongoose8858 Год назад +1

    I collected a 5 gallon bucket full of paw paws last weekend to feed my elk a treat and found a arrowhead for my trouble 😊

  • @helenjackson6535
    @helenjackson6535 10 месяцев назад

    In northeastern Maryland we have pawpaw trees growing in the woods. I bought several trees since the zebra swallowtail butterfly lays its eggs on them.

  • @AttorneyBCollins
    @AttorneyBCollins 6 месяцев назад

    No one ever talks about plant spacing. I've read 8ft. and that is how I planted them. Mine are in direct sun most of the day. I think if you plant the tree in more shade, you will get less fruit and the tree will be larger but more spindly like a wild understory one. Then you would need to space them apart to keep them from intertwining. Just my opinion, I'm no big time grower, but I did get my first of 8 trees to have 8 clusters this year. It's closest neighbor had its first bloom but after a late frost, only 8 blooms survived. I suspect some were either self fertilized or were fertilized by the 5 blooms. I also brought a branch of blossoms from a woods and hand pollinated from those blooms.

  • @js.goldklang
    @js.goldklang 2 года назад +3

    Does anyone know specifically why drying is bad for pawpaw digestion?

    • @GUNNER67akaKelt
      @GUNNER67akaKelt 11 дней назад

      Just guessing here, but drying may make the toxin easier to digest. A commenter above mentioned that they baked some into a bread and three members of their family had upset stomachs from eating it. Cooking things breaks down the food and makes it easier to digest. I believe he said in the video that the toxins don't generally digest well if eaten raw and would likely just pass through your body.
      Like I said, that's just a guess. I'm not a biology major, or even a minor, hehe. What I do know is cooking say, meats, breaks down the cellular structure and allows us to digest more of the nutrients than we would if it were were eaten raw.

  • @MistressOP
    @MistressOP 2 года назад

    I plan to add it regularly to smoothie? Is this something that can be eaten via frozen smoothie once or twice per week?

  • @mistersmith8962
    @mistersmith8962 2 года назад +3

    Dr Squatch has a food forest?
    cool!
    next scent idea: the mamas and the pawpaws.

  • @miserupister
    @miserupister Год назад

    how do they behave after pruning to shape or branch reduction like by apple trees for example?

  • @JoshDauer
    @JoshDauer 8 месяцев назад

    This is the first time I'm hearing of not eating it dried, does that also mean if I dehydrate them to eat later as a snack they'd cause issues?
    Also... I'm still confused re: self-pollination. I've got one flower on my 5 trees this year, hoping I might be able to pollinate itself by using the same paintbrush every day it's open

  • @dwightrapp4788
    @dwightrapp4788 19 дней назад

    Do you sell paw paw trees?

  • @rockskipper0
    @rockskipper0 Год назад

    What about the myth of getting high off the dried leaves?

  • @VedaSay
    @VedaSay Год назад

    Excellent information. Tasted the fruit first time, it has a very rich taste.

  • @redeyestones3738
    @redeyestones3738 Год назад

    Does pawpaw have a higher concentration of the toxic compound than a soursop, or cherimoya? Because I've eaten pounds of those at a time, with no issue. Would that mean that I could eat pounds of pawpaw, without getting sick?

    • @redeyestones3738
      @redeyestones3738 Год назад

      @somerandomperson1503 I find that hard to believe. Being that I grew up with cherimoya and soursop growing all over the place back home on Maui. I could never get enough. I would eat pounds every day for years and never had any issues. The paw paw might have a higher concentration of the toxin, but I think your wildly underestimating how many pounds of cherimoya and sousop I used to devour every day between the age of 14 and 21. It was nonstop

    • @redeyestones3738
      @redeyestones3738 Год назад

      @somerandomperson1503 well, I think that it's good to be aware. That's for sure. But seriously anything is technically toxic in the correct dosages. I personally have never even seen a pawpaw fruit or tree. I could imagine it would be noteworthy to bring up its toxicity if it were a more common tree that grew everywhere. There is an island in the Caribbean called Guadalupe where people ingest a LOT of soursop. This island does have a higher than normal ratio of parkinsons inflicted individuals than normal. Guess I've just been lucky. Literally food for thought.

    • @Phavahg
      @Phavahg 4 месяца назад

      Paw paws were a staple fruit of native peoples and early settlers for centuries. Don't eat the seeds, although that's probably next to impossible anyway.

    • @trilobES.
      @trilobES. 3 месяца назад

      @@redeyestones3738 Genetic factors cannot be ruled out in all these studies on the island of Guadalupe. That is, there may be a population group with some genetic predisposition.
      It is very curious that only the part of the French Antilles has this information because what happens to the rest of the Caribbean, countries like Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, etc. don't they eat guanábana or chirimoya? Studies are also known to have been done in populations that in addition to fruit also consume leaf tea containing much higher amounts.

  • @rephaelreyes8552
    @rephaelreyes8552 2 года назад

    So what I’m hearing is pawpaw has a slight cancer prevention properties

    • @peterrose5373
      @peterrose5373 2 года назад

      Most poisons have cancer prevention properties. They work by killing the cancer faster than they kill the rest of you. If you're eating enough of them to provide cancer fighting benefits, you're probably getting dangerously close to self-poisoning levels.

  • @TheFutureofFateisinthePast
    @TheFutureofFateisinthePast 4 месяца назад

    Can they be genetically modified nor referring to cross pollination or selective seeding.
    Hopefully cannot be GMO
    Anyone?

  • @blakespower
    @blakespower Год назад

    I forgot to collect pawpaws this year. dont think it was a bumper crop anyway.

  • @thomasreto2997
    @thomasreto2997 2 года назад +2

    Got 2 newer ones in my yard about 18 inches high. Pgh pa…😃🌈🤙

  • @Labia.53
    @Labia.53 3 месяца назад

    Todo el mundo habla de papayas cuando estos árboles son de paw paw, asimina triloba.

  • @RocketPipeTV
    @RocketPipeTV Год назад

    2:30 the dose always makes the poison. If you drink a gallon of water in 10 minutes you could die😩.

  • @helenjackson6535
    @helenjackson6535 10 месяцев назад

    Im a pharmacist, the whole idea of chemotherapy is trying to kill fast growing cells. Cancer is fast growing. Stomach lining and hair are too... therefore causes nausea, hair falling out etc. You hope to kill the cancer. Dose is critical. Overdose could kill the patient, to little the cancer survives.

  • @ragheadand420roll
    @ragheadand420roll 2 года назад

    Hardened their wood Hey beavis heheh 😅✌🏻

  • @angeliatapaszto6019
    @angeliatapaszto6019 Год назад

    be good i glad

  • @Janicem.Merriman
    @Janicem.Merriman 8 месяцев назад

    I've heard of dogs and especially foxes and coyotes eating all the paw pows. If they don't eat to much it keeps fleas and tics down. Poor creatures how many eat to much as they are 3/4 th starving in the wild and someone shots them cause they think they have rabies or distemper. True story were paw pows are plentiful. Give u the shakes if eat to many at one time.

  • @ebybeehoney
    @ebybeehoney 2 года назад +2

    I've been wanting to plant a few of these and am determined next year. Once in a while I get a fruit from a local nature area but I'm not the only person looking. I do have one this year!

    • @RocketPipeTV
      @RocketPipeTV Год назад

      The best time to plant a tree is ten years ago. Do it today if you missed it 😂