Honestly, videos like yours throughout the community have made me reflect on myself and made me realize that I just wholeheartedly feel bad for everyone that feels this way. Destiny will probably remain my favorite game for a long time. I picked it up after watching my dad play one night back in rise of iron. And I’ve basically played ever since. Took a break during shadowkeep, but then came back before beyond light much like yourself and I truthfully have just never looked back. The fun times I have had for me have outweighed the bad. Lightfall was bad and so is a lot of other things about the game, but I’ve never had a better time gaming. Getting some of my friends into the game, letting them figure out dungeons and raids, meeting my clan, running raids with them, low-manning, and then finally day 1 raids. I loved your video, and I hope that you’re happy with your decision, because at the end that’s what gaming is all about. Just because you don’t have that kind of fun anymore doesn’t mean that I can’t like and vise versa. At the end of the day, gaming is about the fun you have. My journey still has fun left to give me, at least for now. Best of luck sir!
I feel the same man. I took a break during witch queen because I didn’t like the seasonal model and then got deluxe edition for $20 during the final season. There was so much good content to enjoy and that I decided to focus on what was the best things that were leaving, while running the raid weekly for loot.
@@JR-17 There’s so many great things and it feels like people are just fed up with the bad, justifiably, but the good things are still awesome, at least to me
@@greenlukesky4615 For me the problem isn't not having fun, but just seeing how over the years bungie got greedy and progressively destroy this franchase. When I look back at kings fall and rise of iron, they were trying to make whats best for the player but now they are trying to create whats best for their pockets.
I found it hilarious that the new expansion brought a character back to life but their entire story and death are vaulted so the only way new people can find out what happened to them is by going to RUclips.
Really is a shame yes. Destiny is so dedicated to the idea of “legacy” and yet, that legacy cannot be accessed. Sony has stated their goal now is to create a better onboarding experience, which is good, but it’s too little too late imo
I say this to people all the time. I wasn't a big fan of Forsaken, or the seasonal model, but Forsaken and various seasons set up a TON of context for TFS that, without it, would feel incomplete. It's no longer a whole game and the excuses I've seen for that from the community has been terrible and destructive.
I am not defending them or anything there's literally timeline reflection in the game and forsaken has like 1 or 2 quest about cayde's death I wish people get the experience the location story fully nonetheless people are not left about how he died one of the first they literally make you do is to do timeline reflection meaning story recap
Everything you said in this video in references about Destiny. You said everything that I’ve been feeling for the past 10 years perfectly. Thank you, brother.
I nothing but RELATE this this video it mirrors my own relationship with destiny/D2 the friend who keeps asking for money to hang out and promises....just a few bucks I'll pay you back I'll make it up to you I'll get my act together And it looks like he does but....it'll never Last Final shape....is the end for me
I understand why so many people refused to give up on Destiny. I was hooked on Vault of Glass, trying to get past Forever 29. The community was awesome back then; the blend of PvP and PvE was intoxicating because even if it wasn't balanced, it was fun as hell overpowering the enemy team with something you spent weeks grinding for. I remember yelling and jumping out of my chair when I got my first exotic, after 40ish hours to just get The Last Word from a PvP match, or crying tears of joy pulling Gjallarhorn from the Gorgon chest. Good times. Ultimately, I dropped Destiny and walked away from the community as a whole when Bungie vaulted The Red War. These bastards stole content I paid for, and no one in the community gave a damn. They tossed fun away for balance at the start of D2, which already left me sour, and reverted on all the improvements up to Rise of Iron to impress reviewers instead of the community. When I remember Destiny, my first memories are those og D1 raids, the time I ran into Math Class in Rift and beat them so badly I got invited to their party and we played Rift for 5ish hours, Datto tried to join and they would not kick me for the main guy so we just kept matching Datto and kicking his ass. That might have been one of my favorite all-time gaming memories ever... but that Destiny isn't around anymore, and it's better to walk away than to hope Jerry stops hurting you when he's already done it 17 times before. I'll always be grateful for the memories, but I did not see the Final Shape or the Witch Queen and I have no interest in Marathon. Bungie can hurt someone else but not me.
When u were doing the jerry analogy, i could tell which moment it was represented in destiny, that's how long I've been playing this game. Great video m8! keep up the good work.
I love that analogy it’s exactly what it’s like. If my input is worth anything I’m a relatively new player compared to the diehard fans and I started in lightfall. I know LF was one of the worst campaigns but I fell in love with D2 from the start and I’ve played a lot since then. Anyway for me I get all the frustration and reasons that people leave the game but honestly I’ve only been at it for a little over a year and despite all the issues I still really enjoy playing on regular basis. Maybe I’m in the minority of experience players who started in lightfall but I think a part of the problem with the veteran players leaving and hating what the game has become is just burn out. I mean even a year is a long time but some have been playing since vanilla and even D1 so I think even if D2 was everything those veteran players say they want they would still have burnout and leave the game. I think it’s just the case with any game. Having said that if they keep going down the current path with layoffs, downsizing expansions, bad decision making, neglect for PvP and other aspects of the game and the list goes on, then I’ll probably leave myself. My reasons more to do with just the length of time I’ve played. Even then you know I don’t think I’ll ever truly quit, I might just play every other weekend or once a month or so. I think that would be a lot healthier for me and a lot of other players. Maybe that would alleviate some of the frustrations given that less time would be invested. Idk that’s my two cents, I truly hope bungie gets back on the right track and keep focusing on D2 instead of all these other projects at least for a while.
This video is a vibe. I bought every dlc except for lightfall for D1 and D2. I used to play every single day and I met most of my og friends in this world Bungie made. I always had something Bungie related on cause I loved Halo too and I always wanted to work for them when I was younger. I quit in beyond light for good, said I'd but I returned for witchqueen. I couldn't get any of my friends on, they quit and I outlasted them. The community became so toxic that I can't even assemble or join a decent fireteam for a raid on lfg, I remember when it used to be chill and just Sony box players. Not all pc players are bad but hacking really messed up the game and it took me a long while to adjust to fighting guardians on m&kb. My favorite guns being sunsetted/nerfed or underpowered(causing people to make fun of me for using them). Then there's Bungie. Not all of the employees who were laid off shoulda been fired but Luke Smith and that other guy who went on twitter to basically say "Look stop whining we already have your dlc money we don't have to do better", they both made decisions and have said things that further tore this community apart! Sunsetting was all Luke's idea I'm pretty sure but correct me if I'm wrong. The type of game devs and community leaders that don't care about you, just the green in your pocket. Deej was the best tho. When Bungie split from Activision I was mad hype for what was to come, thinking Bungie was about to give D2 the Halo treatment. I was wrong. They failed to grab their Destiny. They said they were listening to forum post and us and lied. As sad as I am to see it happen, even with the happy memories I'm all for the stripping off the skin of Bungie's back. They really had something good and they blew it. They had my heart and they broke it. Missions not working right, untouched bugs, lame rewards and a even lamer story. However the ending was really good. I watched it. Even though it's over, and I had some bad times with this game I still love it. I love it enough to let it go. It's like a abusive relationship, she keeps slapping you in the face closed fist but you stay anyway. I hope that CEO gets it worse than anyone else he laid off, I wish we could class action law suit his tie off. Wouldn't it be grand if he finds a streetlamp in one of his new cars someday? And people wonder where the money went...Lightfall should have been projected to save Bungie but Pete said "OOOOO MY 3RD HELLCAT" and gets away with it. Why am I giving money to a company thinking I'm going to get a good game in return when in reality Pete Parson gets 5 new cars while his underlings tell us that everything is going to be ok. All while they whip it out, take a tinkle on your arm and tell you it's rain. We're all suckers. Consume consume, no action or boycotting these sickos. We should really find a way to flip them off. Just stop giving them money all together, I'd legit run emulators and indie games all my life now. Look at how Pokemon turned out you want that to be your next fav game? Won't be long till another game comes out and the devs promises you all the good good, just for the game to release as a skeleton of what was advertised with trash graphics and little content. Or maybe you find a game that's just intended to be a cashgrab comes out with a really irresistible feel to it(How could you know tho these companies take advantage of our good faith.). Maybe you see, oh I don't know, another game that reminds you of this old friend of ours. But once that honeymoon phase is over you start to see the mistake you made. I feel like that's The last Descendant.
i have only played destiny 2 and for just a few years started during the pandemic. with all the drama going on, i still play destiny and will still play it, but i also agree with you about the voting with your wallet, im not buying content again, until its on sale. i also stopped trying to do raids, it just takes too much time for me. since the whole collapse of their studios, i started playing other games, like space marines 2, final fantasy and even other casual games, which is refreshing... i dont say goodbye to destiny, i say, cya later...
I gave up destiny before lightfall. It was the second time I gave it up. First was in D1 when a bunch of friends split up over raid scheduling. Never played it again and didn’t play D2 until after shadowkeep. Played on and off over the years but it was when I had kids and a good career that it became a problem again. Stayed up too late, always tired at work, mean to the kids cuz I was tired when I got home and then stayed up late again. Took a step back. Wasn’t worth it, but still played some. Until we got close to lightfall. Had it pre ordered and was grinding to get all 3 characters ready. Fell back into bad habits but didn’t like it. Ground until I felt good for a season, took a break and when that week off became another, I realized I was never going back. I don’t need another job again. I do still watch luckyy and fallout though. Destiny is now my favorites drama series. Takes way less time this way. Anyway, loved the video!
RE: video thumbnail. Because of the way the RUclips UI occludes the E and the foreground image occludes the straight part of D, I thought this was about Goooby.
I think there will be a large amount of players that will see this year through (because they've paid for it) but there will be a massive drop off next year. At this point, I want Sony taking over because really don't think they can do any worse than Pete. It astounds me he is still there as, at think point, he's got to be the most hated man at bungie. I'd like to see d2 finish completely and bungie take a few years out developing D3 under new leadership.
I’m going to compare the two one call of duty dmz back then when it first came out it was in its prime time of glory and now it’s dead in the water and then came destiny 2 same thing happened in it’s glory and now same thing again dead in the water but I will continue to play it again and again because I am in love with this game and I’m not going to give up on it i still have hope for it for the future
I'm at the same point, I'll poke my head in play a little then go. I just can't in good conscious play the game as much as a I used too. My enjoyment of the game wavered so badly I'd leave clans thinking if this is the last time I'd ever play or if this wasn't the place for me. And it unfortunately damaged relationships which ultimately really hurts cause those people Ive known since forsaken. At this point I'm forced to move on and frankly half ready too, I've been devoting all my time into FFXIV and I've been having a blast with it. But I wont ever forget Destiny, it'll always be near and dear to me but it's hard for me to find enjoyment with it.
It hurts a lot sometimes I really liked this game so much but that old friend is gone and has been gone for a long time and is never coming back I hoped and hoped that it would get better but it didn't and i was only deceiving myself, it got worse and worse and worse, it was becoming greedy and corrupt and a lie. Destiny would even brain Wash their players me and many others would say " i hate this game, I'm done with this game, I'm never gonna play this game. " just for me and many to still be playing destiny. It hurts but i left destiny long ago and was happy to play other games Because i knew that it was falling apart destiny was falling apart their story was falling apart Bungie was falling apart and it was beyond repair the damage was done I already said goodbye but I'll say it one more time Goodbye Bungie goodbye story Goodbye Destiny It's been fun ⚪
Ok goodbye, see you tomorrow. Joking a side, Destiny 2 is unsustainable, its not a subscription model to be able to sustain it self with an old player base. The CEO toke a risk, he thought that to increase bungies players base and have a better risk management its a good Idea to have multiple IPs under your belt. If they invested heavy on the onboarding for Destiny you may have had new retaining player but that whould not guarantee they would be whales or any significant number to justify a cinematic dlc expansion expenses. The issues was trying to do everything at once instead of focusing one thing at a time and making sure that you main revenue income is healthy, also the issue of making decisions too late. However, there was also the issue with covid and activision split, that can have serious repercussions on your passives. Covid boost player count no dought, but sonce the onboarding was so bad it retain almost nothing. In a strategy point of view, it was just bad decisions after another, but we only know its a bad decision when we look backwards, also the high executive did there job, sold the company for the highest possible bid. Thats a win for the stockholders.
As much as I hate the way things have gone with Destiny and how bleak things look now, I have to play it until the third episode. I paid a lot of money for this game, so I wanna play my money's worth. Then I think that's it.
well, it seems to me that when Jerry is around you he makes bad decisions and when you are away from him he gather him self up. i think you are the problem, not Jerry. You are bad influence man. 🤣 🤣🤣
I’ve never understood why people keep buying D2 if they keep feeling like they’re getting burned. Like after 2 expansions if you feel like that but you still keep buying I have no sympathy. Just stop buying the game lmao. I’m sure it’ll still be here when you eventually want to get back in and pay more money to Jerry.
See I've been playing since D1 beta and final shape to me is mediocre and the more I stay away from it the less I like it, it launched with very little content and the content it got was alright at best. The best time in destiny is taken king, they promised that and failed I stopped playing a month after final shape launched I did everything in it and it wasn't good, I went and bought D1 again after final shape and restarted it cause I didn't have my account from D1 anymore and it's amazing I love D1, D2 is trash and I hope Bungie burns at this point they deserve it I hate that I've been chasing taken kings high for all this time.
Destiny 2 is exactly the game they want it to be: glorified mobile game. There’s no love. No innovation. Just cheesy gimmicks and repetitive schlock in order to keep players coming back for those “season updates” aka Eververse refresh. The true fans, the dedicated fans who have supported them along the way, deserved far far better but that’s not what you’ll get if you continue supporting Bungie.
WTF LMAO I'm not laughing at you my guy or anyone that feels this way I kinda get it for other things that doesn't revolve around gaming for me d2 is just something too kill time not really a life time investment even though I put out hella hours into it for me its just a game with no real meaning like cod halo dead space lost planet etc but to just kill time with the boys or simply by myself nothing beyond that really
Destiny is just a game, not a lifestyle. Put the damn game down for a while, it's ok. Come back in a couple months, Destiny/Jerry is your drug dealer. lol
lol. Have You Even Been Keeping In Touch With Things huh, (In Terms Of Bungie) Getting Laid Off/Fired Is Not Called “Life”, It’s Called A Company That Used To Be Famous For Halo, Slowly & Slowly, Then Ramping Up The Decline Of The Game. It’s Not The Writers, The Weapons Team, Or The Design Team… It’s Not Their Fault That They’re Getting Fired & It’s Not Like Oh, We’re a Company So We NEED To Fire These People Cuz of Certain Company Reasons, It’s The Stupid Ass Upper Management & The CEO (Pete Carsons) lol, That Just Don’t Give A Fuck Because Their All Money Hungry, I’ve Asked People Do You Think All These Issues With Destiny/ The Upper Management Would Happen If They Had Stuck To Activision And They Said No, And I Honestly Have To Agree… We’d Probably Be On Destiny 4 By Now Or Close If They Had Stuck With Activision.
@Nevag00As Much As I Don’t Wanna Admit It… I Feel The Same, I Barely Ever Played Destiny 1 (I don’t even have a Exotic unlocked) lol, But I Did Play The Red War During The Year it Launched And I Really Enjoyed It, One Of The First Times It Felt Like We Could Lose Ya Know?, Some Point Later I Just Didn’t Play It, Then One Day I Was Spending The Night At My Friends House & I Saw Him Playing “Forsaken” Which I Heard That Destiny Got A New DLC But That’s All I Knew, Then As Im Watching My Friends Tv… I See Cayde-6 Die And I Flipped The Hell Out Wondering WTF HAPPENED Lol, (This Was in 2019, So A year after forsaken came out) Is When I Heard About Cayde Dying, So After Playing Forsaken I Ended Up Taking A Break & Came Back For The “Almighty” Live Event & Then “Season of Arrivals” Dropped And Tbh Thats Probably When I TRULY Started Really Getting Into The Game Cuz I Didn’t Stop Playing After That, So Fast Forward To Lightfall (Mid Asf) But Had Some Cool Things But I Didn’t Really Take A Break Surprisingly Because The Last 3 Seasons Deep, Witch & Wish I Loved, Now With The Final Shape I Finally Honestly Can Say I Feel Fulfilled, Like Something Was Always Missing But Now It’s Not & Idk Why But I Kinda Feel like What Ikora Said In That Last Cutscene After Beating The Witness “I Thought It Would Feel Different” & It Does Actually, It’s Lime We’ve Been Fighting Enemy After Enemy Nonstop & Now That We’ve Killed The Biggest One (The Witness) The Story Itself & The Game Feels Empty Lol But Fulfilled At The Same Time lol. Sorry For Such A Long Comment.
Try warframe! will give you a similar feel to destiny but with a team that listens and works with their community... it's incredibly refreshing (though the new player experience is - really quite terrible) doing it with a friend helps lol
@@swarlly oh! I don't feel that way, but that sucks warframe feels that way for you; I just like the variety in content and the vastness. Also something different to do
What’s with you people and what the man does with his money? You also sound like Jerry or a dev who lost their job. Yes, Pete parsons have probably signed up on more than he can chew, but I’m pretty sure there were/are multiple C role leaders within bungie who are managing Destiny and other projects that have been mismanaged them and have caused multiple cancelled projects. Pete parsons haven’t change destiny narratives, that fall on the devs, anyone playing destiny knows bungie projects have changed directions multiple time last minute due for whatever reasons and who’s fault are those? Many issues with destiny started with leadership overseeing destiny and claiming the devs aren’t as fault at all and it’s all Pete is ignorant
Parasocial towards a game? It's not a person, "Jerry" is not calling you up to make amends and then disappointing you later. If the game is ass, drop it. I dropped it when double primary made it boring as f-ck. I dropped it when shadowkeep reskinned the moon instead of new content. But acting like you are standing on some moral high ground and "voting" by not playing the game is crazy cope.
Destiny 2 is the only revenue bungie has currently. With Sony's huge investment, there's no way they will let bungie quit on destiny 2 with zero return in revenue. Destiny 2 will get updates at least until Marathon is released. And if that flops, Sony will force bungie to make Destiny 3 in order to make some of their money back.
Honestly I'm tired of hearing all these content creators and community members just talk negative about destiny. Just sounds like a bunch of entitled nonsense to me. Good luck finding another game that has half of what destiny has. I think it will be better for destiny and the destiny community once all the negative Nancy's quit the game
Ayo 4+ mins of the same thing over and over and over to paint your analogy is mind numbing, listen back on your vids man and think if youd wanna watch/listen to it. Playing this in the background as i gamed was rough, your intro was so bad it made something in me wanna be against you lol when you brought up Jerry again i had to fight a physical reflex that my body took to get away from your voice. Keep working at it, maybe think about writing a script next time and good luck to you in the future.
Destiny was never a good game!! What we loved was the guns 🔫 Destiny was terrible game with great guns. The dlcs were very inconsistent the finally shape was meh at best. Destiny Story -0 Content 3 Guns - 8 Community- Toxic -25
OK so I’m going to be considerate and rude…. First the rude… Oh cut out the violin music while sitting next to a lit candle with tears coming down your cheek you don’t think I’m a people felt that way yourself man up a little bit and it’s even worse when I try RUclipsr who I’ve never heard of combined with a person OK who is talking about this after numerous other people are already talking about leaving as it is so you just come off as some nobody I never heard of who is now wanting to try to do a very long winded emotional journey about how you feel like you need to leave this game…. Where is the thing a lot of us do not have an endless amount of money to just jump onto new games every time things get hard and I’ve invested way too much money in this game to just jump off the ship!….. when is ship crashes in the iceberg I will gladly salute my fellow shipmates and go down with it….. The lifeboats are not an option!….lol So now for the being considerate and nice….. I will admit destiny has definitely been a very toxic aspect in a lot of peoples lives frankly I feel like my health is failing because of the sheer amount of just irritation this game has produced….. but at the same time it’s still a hang out for me and some of the people who do still play destiny. It’s like that very crappy looking bar that looks bad outside but yeah inside is not half as bad and even though it should’ve been close down people still go there they still get drinks and they still vent out their problems and laugh about stuff and tell stories and for me that’s what destiny feels like most of the time. But if the game doesn’t die first then I will probably leave when that dries up when the people I talk to have completely disappeared and have completely left the game and I’m all by myself. That being said do not expect me to just jump onto the next big game in fact you might not even see me play any games until I see it at least been out for at least over two years because frankly I’m tired of blowing money that I could’ve used to go on vacation or to make some improvements on my house or go out to nicer restaurants just to find out that people are just bitching and whining about how the shade are on this weapon looks terrible I’m not playing anymore Mentality….(I know I said I’m gonna be nice and optimistic…I’m getting to it) I feel like there are things that need to be done if destiny is to survive. First off just trying to give up on the whole destiny three thing…. Cause honestly I don’t feel like relocating to another game like I said before. Second if Sony really wants to make their money back they really do need to do some damage control I mean first of everything we’ve gotten from Benji has either been somewhat cryptic or just flat out tone deaf. So what do you need to do is ensure us that the problematic people and I’m talking about the higher-ups are no longer in charge or in fact not even involved with destiny anymore. Because honestly I have no problem spending money in the cash app but I haven’t for quite some time and I’m kind of glad I haven’t because it seems like the higher-ups of Destiny or bungee we’re just using the game is some Golden goose to finance there over the top lifestyles. I mean I was joking over two years ago about maybe if the people at Bungie was stop ordering $500 steaks living in $250,000 a month apartment and didn’t drive around Golden Cadillacs maybe they would need money so much. I mean like a lot of people we were assuming why they needed so much money. I mean yes companies need to make money and I know cost go up by the way bungee was just putting money into everything that they needed to sell just made it feel like they were desperately trying to get money and now we find out is because they’ve been spending money like some rich privileged white kid who was irresponsibly given the parents credit card and went on a spending spree. And honestly, i’m surprise Sony Hotline set because from what I can tell it seems like almost everything that the higher-ups have bungee did was to try to make their company look bigger and Worth more than I actually was by spending money didn’t have. So the first thing Sony need to do is ensure us that if we do spend money in the cash shop that a much higher amount of it will go into the company and not go into the pockets of the CEOs! Secondly and I know this is going to ruffle someone’s feathers I honestly think that they should scrap marathon…. Or at least scrap it and put it in a shelf somewhere because for the time being the only have destiny and it’s the only thing that’s going to keep the lights on for the time being. And I’m sure I’m alone when it comes to a lot of people who just don’t really care. And of course there’s also going to be the addictive people who are going to be resentful against marathon and will refuse to play it out of spite. So Sony needs to do some restructuring and outsourcing and try to get Destiny to A better place…. Some decent content…. Better seasonal structure…. Maybe not stick everything into the cash shop and put a larger amount of it in the game for players to go out after. Because a lot of it is because of the consistent focus on the cash shop. So doing that would bring some goodwill back to the game and possibly get more players to return knowing that they are not having most of the Contant in the eververse. End it was the last thing I want to say to you is that looking back I can’t help but feel like a lot of the stuff that we were told in the past that was arguably said by the Debs may have actually been from the higher ups so it makes me wonder if some of the stuff that we’ve been complaint about what is considered to be put into the game or changed but it was the CEO‘s who told the dabs and creators to lie and just say no because we don’t wanna spend the money or resources. Seriously that’s what paranoia like,it’s a very steep icy hill, you just can’t stop sliding down further and further.
The moment you realize Jerry became Heisenberg, except he’s always been Heisenberg.
Honestly, videos like yours throughout the community have made me reflect on myself and made me realize that I just wholeheartedly feel bad for everyone that feels this way. Destiny will probably remain my favorite game for a long time. I picked it up after watching my dad play one night back in rise of iron. And I’ve basically played ever since. Took a break during shadowkeep, but then came back before beyond light much like yourself and I truthfully have just never looked back. The fun times I have had for me have outweighed the bad. Lightfall was bad and so is a lot of other things about the game, but I’ve never had a better time gaming. Getting some of my friends into the game, letting them figure out dungeons and raids, meeting my clan, running raids with them, low-manning, and then finally day 1 raids. I loved your video, and I hope that you’re happy with your decision, because at the end that’s what gaming is all about. Just because you don’t have that kind of fun anymore doesn’t mean that I can’t like and vise versa. At the end of the day, gaming is about the fun you have. My journey still has fun left to give me, at least for now. Best of luck sir!
I feel the same man. I took a break during witch queen because I didn’t like the seasonal model and then got deluxe edition for $20 during the final season. There was so much good content to enjoy and that I decided to focus on what was the best things that were leaving, while running the raid weekly for loot.
@@JR-17 There’s so many great things and it feels like people are just fed up with the bad, justifiably, but the good things are still awesome, at least to me
Exactly. Bunch of bitch ass drama. Go play Fortnite or Roblox.
@@greenlukesky4615 For me the problem isn't not having fun, but just seeing how over the years bungie got greedy and progressively destroy this franchase. When I look back at kings fall and rise of iron, they were trying to make whats best for the player but now they are trying to create whats best for their pockets.
I found it hilarious that the new expansion brought a character back to life but their entire story and death are vaulted so the only way new people can find out what happened to them is by going to RUclips.
Really is a shame yes. Destiny is so dedicated to the idea of “legacy” and yet, that legacy cannot be accessed. Sony has stated their goal now is to create a better onboarding experience, which is good, but it’s too little too late imo
I say this to people all the time. I wasn't a big fan of Forsaken, or the seasonal model, but Forsaken and various seasons set up a TON of context for TFS that, without it, would feel incomplete.
It's no longer a whole game and the excuses I've seen for that from the community has been terrible and destructive.
I am not defending them or anything there's literally timeline reflection in the game and forsaken has like 1 or 2 quest about cayde's death I wish people get the experience the location story fully nonetheless people are not left about how he died one of the first they literally make you do is to do timeline reflection meaning story recap
Everything you said in this video in references about Destiny. You said everything that I’ve been feeling for the past 10 years perfectly. Thank you, brother.
I nothing but RELATE this this video it mirrors my own relationship with destiny/D2 the friend who keeps asking for money to hang out and promises....just a few bucks I'll pay you back I'll make it up to you I'll get my act together
And it looks like he does but....it'll never Last
Final shape....is the end for me
I understand why so many people refused to give up on Destiny. I was hooked on Vault of Glass, trying to get past Forever 29. The community was awesome back then; the blend of PvP and PvE was intoxicating because even if it wasn't balanced, it was fun as hell overpowering the enemy team with something you spent weeks grinding for.
I remember yelling and jumping out of my chair when I got my first exotic, after 40ish hours to just get The Last Word from a PvP match, or crying tears of joy pulling Gjallarhorn from the Gorgon chest. Good times.
Ultimately, I dropped Destiny and walked away from the community as a whole when Bungie vaulted The Red War. These bastards stole content I paid for, and no one in the community gave a damn. They tossed fun away for balance at the start of D2, which already left me sour, and reverted on all the improvements up to Rise of Iron to impress reviewers instead of the community.
When I remember Destiny, my first memories are those og D1 raids, the time I ran into Math Class in Rift and beat them so badly I got invited to their party and we played Rift for 5ish hours, Datto tried to join and they would not kick me for the main guy so we just kept matching Datto and kicking his ass. That might have been one of my favorite all-time gaming memories ever... but that Destiny isn't around anymore, and it's better to walk away than to hope Jerry stops hurting you when he's already done it 17 times before.
I'll always be grateful for the memories, but I did not see the Final Shape or the Witch Queen and I have no interest in Marathon. Bungie can hurt someone else but not me.
When u were doing the jerry analogy, i could tell which moment it was represented in destiny, that's how long I've been playing this game. Great video m8! keep up the good work.
The Jerry cycle...
I love that analogy it’s exactly what it’s like. If my input is worth anything I’m a relatively new player compared to the diehard fans and I started in lightfall. I know LF was one of the worst campaigns but I fell in love with D2 from the start and I’ve played a lot since then. Anyway for me I get all the frustration and reasons that people leave the game but honestly I’ve only been at it for a little over a year and despite all the issues I still really enjoy playing on regular basis. Maybe I’m in the minority of experience players who started in lightfall but I think a part of the problem with the veteran players leaving and hating what the game has become is just burn out. I mean even a year is a long time but some have been playing since vanilla and even D1 so I think even if D2 was everything those veteran players say they want they would still have burnout and leave the game. I think it’s just the case with any game. Having said that if they keep going down the current path with layoffs, downsizing expansions, bad decision making, neglect for PvP and other aspects of the game and the list goes on, then I’ll probably leave myself. My reasons more to do with just the length of time I’ve played. Even then you know I don’t think I’ll ever truly quit, I might just play every other weekend or once a month or so. I think that would be a lot healthier for me and a lot of other players. Maybe that would alleviate some of the frustrations given that less time would be invested. Idk that’s my two cents, I truly hope bungie gets back on the right track and keep focusing on D2 instead of all these other projects at least for a while.
Final shape was a love letter to the Pve community of Destiny 2 Forsaken was a good bye letter to the Pvp Community
This video is a vibe. I bought every dlc except for lightfall for D1 and D2. I used to play every single day and I met most of my og friends in this world Bungie made. I always had something Bungie related on cause I loved Halo too and I always wanted to work for them when I was younger. I quit in beyond light for good, said I'd but I returned for witchqueen.
I couldn't get any of my friends on, they quit and I outlasted them. The community became so toxic that I can't even assemble or join a decent fireteam for a raid on lfg, I remember when it used to be chill and just Sony box players.
Not all pc players are bad but hacking really messed up the game and it took me a long while to adjust to fighting guardians on m&kb. My favorite guns being sunsetted/nerfed or underpowered(causing people to make fun of me for using them).
Then there's Bungie. Not all of the employees who were laid off shoulda been fired but Luke Smith and that other guy who went on twitter to basically say "Look stop whining we already have your dlc money we don't have to do better", they both made decisions and have said things that further tore this community apart!
Sunsetting was all Luke's idea I'm pretty sure but correct me if I'm wrong. The type of game devs and community leaders that don't care about you, just the green in your pocket. Deej was the best tho.
When Bungie split from Activision I was mad hype for what was to come, thinking Bungie was about to give D2 the Halo treatment. I was wrong. They failed to grab their Destiny. They said they were listening to forum post and us and lied.
As sad as I am to see it happen, even with the happy memories I'm all for the stripping off the skin of Bungie's back. They really had something good and they blew it. They had my heart and they broke it. Missions not working right, untouched bugs, lame rewards and a even lamer story. However the ending was really good. I watched it. Even though it's over, and I had some bad times with this game I still love it. I love it enough to let it go. It's like a abusive relationship, she keeps slapping you in the face closed fist but you stay anyway.
I hope that CEO gets it worse than anyone else he laid off, I wish we could class action law suit his tie off. Wouldn't it be grand if he finds a streetlamp in one of his new cars someday? And people wonder where the money went...Lightfall should have been projected to save Bungie but Pete said "OOOOO MY 3RD HELLCAT" and gets away with it. Why am I giving money to a company thinking I'm going to get a good game in return when in reality Pete Parson gets 5 new cars while his underlings tell us that everything is going to be ok. All while they whip it out, take a tinkle on your arm and tell you it's rain. We're all suckers. Consume consume, no action or boycotting these sickos. We should really find a way to flip them off. Just stop giving them money all together, I'd legit run emulators and indie games all my life now. Look at how Pokemon turned out you want that to be your next fav game?
Won't be long till another game comes out and the devs promises you all the good good, just for the game to release as a skeleton of what was advertised with trash graphics and little content. Or maybe you find a game that's just intended to be a cashgrab comes out with a really irresistible feel to it(How could you know tho these companies take advantage of our good faith.). Maybe you see, oh I don't know, another game that reminds you of this old friend of ours. But once that honeymoon phase is over you start to see the mistake you made. I feel like that's The last Descendant.
❤️ I want to be thankful, I did love Destiny
i have only played destiny 2 and for just a few years started during the pandemic. with all the drama going on, i still play destiny and will still play it, but i also agree with you about the voting with your wallet, im not buying content again, until its on sale. i also stopped trying to do raids, it just takes too much time for me. since the whole collapse of their studios, i started playing other games, like space marines 2, final fantasy and even other casual games, which is refreshing... i dont say goodbye to destiny, i say, cya later...
I gave up destiny before lightfall. It was the second time I gave it up. First was in D1 when a bunch of friends split up over raid scheduling. Never played it again and didn’t play D2 until after shadowkeep. Played on and off over the years but it was when I had kids and a good career that it became a problem again. Stayed up too late, always tired at work, mean to the kids cuz I was tired when I got home and then stayed up late again. Took a step back. Wasn’t worth it, but still played some. Until we got close to lightfall. Had it pre ordered and was grinding to get all 3 characters ready. Fell back into bad habits but didn’t like it. Ground until I felt good for a season, took a break and when that week off became another, I realized I was never going back. I don’t need another job again. I do still watch luckyy and fallout though. Destiny is now my favorites drama series. Takes way less time this way. Anyway, loved the video!
At the end of the day...the day ends.
Should've let the Final Shape happen.
RE: video thumbnail. Because of the way the RUclips UI occludes the E and the foreground image occludes the straight part of D, I thought this was about Goooby.
This is so accurate that it’s wild lol
Great thoughts man thank you for sharing your experience
You’re my boy Jerry!
I just realized i only played destiny during its highs lol i got into d1 then played taken king, forsaken, witch queen and final shape
I think there will be a large amount of players that will see this year through (because they've paid for it) but there will be a massive drop off next year.
At this point, I want Sony taking over because really don't think they can do any worse than Pete.
It astounds me he is still there as, at think point, he's got to be the most hated man at bungie.
I'd like to see d2 finish completely and bungie take a few years out developing D3 under new leadership.
Bungie truly died when Destiny 1 released. It's been a long time coming.
What? What does this even mean?
@@rodrequizerhodman6630It means that Bungie is a former shell of itself.
I just started playing Destiny 3 months ago!
same lmao, it feels like every time i find a decent game, i'm just too "late to the party"
Well said
Beautiful
This is extremely satisfying.
I’m going to compare the two one call of duty dmz back then when it first came out it was in its prime time of glory and now it’s dead in the water and then came destiny 2 same thing happened in it’s glory and now same thing again dead in the water but I will continue to play it again and again because I am in love with this game and I’m not going to give up on it i still have hope for it for the future
I was weary of Jerry after revisiting Lightfall
I'm at the same point, I'll poke my head in play a little then go. I just can't in good conscious play the game as much as a I used too. My enjoyment of the game wavered so badly I'd leave clans thinking if this is the last time I'd ever play or if this wasn't the place for me. And it unfortunately damaged relationships which ultimately really hurts cause those people Ive known since forsaken. At this point I'm forced to move on and frankly half ready too, I've been devoting all my time into FFXIV and I've been having a blast with it. But I wont ever forget Destiny, it'll always be near and dear to me but it's hard for me to find enjoyment with it.
I implore everyone to finish the video at 4:20
It hurts a lot sometimes
I really liked this game so much
but that old friend is gone and has been gone for a long time and is never coming back
I hoped and hoped that it would get better but it didn't and i was only deceiving myself, it got worse and worse and worse, it was becoming greedy and corrupt and a lie.
Destiny would even brain Wash their players me and many others would say " i hate this game, I'm done with this game, I'm never gonna play this game. " just for me and many to still be playing destiny.
It hurts but i left destiny long ago and was happy to play other games
Because i knew that it was falling apart destiny was falling apart their story was falling apart Bungie was falling apart and it was beyond repair the damage was done
I already said goodbye but I'll say it one more time
Goodbye Bungie goodbye story
Goodbye Destiny
It's been fun
⚪
The Destiny killer truly was Destiny at the end of the day…
@@the_backburner wow the irony in that
Yep
This is some high quality content
Ill guarantee be back next content drop
I also decided to quit. Final shape was nice but im done.
Sad facts
Ok goodbye, see you tomorrow. Joking a side, Destiny 2 is unsustainable, its not a subscription model to be able to sustain it self with an old player base. The CEO toke a risk, he thought that to increase bungies players base and have a better risk management its a good Idea to have multiple IPs under your belt. If they invested heavy on the onboarding for Destiny you may have had new retaining player but that whould not guarantee they would be whales or any significant number to justify a cinematic dlc expansion expenses. The issues was trying to do everything at once instead of focusing one thing at a time and making sure that you main revenue income is healthy, also the issue of making decisions too late. However, there was also the issue with covid and activision split, that can have serious repercussions on your passives. Covid boost player count no dought, but sonce the onboarding was so bad it retain almost nothing. In a strategy point of view, it was just bad decisions after another, but we only know its a bad decision when we look backwards, also the high executive did there job, sold the company for the highest possible bid. Thats a win for the stockholders.
It was a great finale, but the game is over, at least for me. Heck of a ride.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Seems like D2 is the latter.
IMO D3 is way long overdue.
As much as I hate the way things have gone with Destiny and how bleak things look now, I have to play it until the third episode. I paid a lot of money for this game, so I wanna play my money's worth. Then I think that's it.
well, it seems to me that when Jerry is around you he makes bad decisions and when you are away from him he gather him self up. i think you are the problem, not Jerry. You are bad influence man. 🤣 🤣🤣
I’ve never understood why people keep buying D2 if they keep feeling like they’re getting burned. Like after 2 expansions if you feel like that but you still keep buying I have no sympathy. Just stop buying the game lmao. I’m sure it’ll still be here when you eventually want to get back in and pay more money to Jerry.
See I've been playing since D1 beta and final shape to me is mediocre and the more I stay away from it the less I like it, it launched with very little content and the content it got was alright at best. The best time in destiny is taken king, they promised that and failed I stopped playing a month after final shape launched I did everything in it and it wasn't good, I went and bought D1 again after final shape and restarted it cause I didn't have my account from D1 anymore and it's amazing I love D1, D2 is trash and I hope Bungie burns at this point they deserve it I hate that I've been chasing taken kings high for all this time.
Maybe Jerry was never the problem. Seems like youre the catalyst to all of Jerry's problems lol
My new best mate is WoW... I mean Tom.
Destiny 2 is exactly the game they want it to be: glorified mobile game.
There’s no love. No innovation. Just cheesy gimmicks and repetitive schlock in order to keep players coming back for those “season updates” aka Eververse refresh.
The true fans, the dedicated fans who have supported them along the way, deserved far far better but that’s not what you’ll get if you continue supporting Bungie.
WTF LMAO I'm not laughing at you my guy or anyone that feels this way I kinda get it for other things that doesn't revolve around gaming for me d2 is just something too kill time not really a life time investment even though I put out hella hours into it for me its just a game with no real meaning like cod halo dead space lost planet etc but to just kill time with the boys or simply by myself nothing beyond that really
Destiny is just a game, not a lifestyle. Put the damn game down for a while, it's ok. Come back in a couple months, Destiny/Jerry is your drug dealer. lol
Y’all need to stop crying about people getting fired it’s called life.
lol. Have You Even Been Keeping In Touch With Things huh, (In Terms Of Bungie) Getting Laid Off/Fired Is Not Called “Life”, It’s Called A Company That Used To Be Famous For Halo, Slowly & Slowly, Then Ramping Up The Decline Of The Game. It’s Not The Writers, The Weapons Team, Or The Design Team… It’s Not Their Fault That They’re Getting Fired & It’s Not Like Oh, We’re a Company So We NEED To Fire These People Cuz of Certain Company Reasons, It’s The Stupid Ass Upper Management & The CEO (Pete Carsons) lol, That Just Don’t Give A Fuck Because Their All Money Hungry, I’ve Asked People Do You Think All These Issues With Destiny/ The Upper Management Would Happen If They Had Stuck To Activision And They Said No, And I Honestly Have To Agree… We’d Probably Be On Destiny 4 By Now Or Close If They Had Stuck With Activision.
I don’t think these people ever step foot outside of a video game chair
This was 15 mins of yapping. You’ll be back. They always come back.
@Nevag00As Much As I Don’t Wanna Admit It… I Feel The Same, I Barely Ever Played Destiny 1 (I don’t even have a Exotic unlocked) lol, But I Did Play The Red War During The Year it Launched And I Really Enjoyed It, One Of The First Times It Felt Like We Could Lose Ya Know?, Some Point Later I Just Didn’t Play It, Then One Day I Was Spending The Night At My Friends House & I Saw Him Playing “Forsaken” Which I Heard That Destiny Got A New DLC But That’s All I Knew, Then As Im Watching My Friends Tv… I See Cayde-6 Die And I Flipped The Hell Out Wondering WTF HAPPENED Lol, (This Was in 2019, So A year after forsaken came out) Is When I Heard About Cayde Dying, So After Playing Forsaken I Ended Up Taking A Break & Came Back For The “Almighty” Live Event & Then “Season of Arrivals” Dropped And Tbh Thats Probably When I TRULY Started Really Getting Into The Game Cuz I Didn’t Stop Playing After That, So Fast Forward To Lightfall (Mid Asf) But Had Some Cool Things But I Didn’t Really Take A Break Surprisingly Because The Last 3 Seasons Deep, Witch & Wish I Loved, Now With The Final Shape I Finally Honestly Can Say I Feel Fulfilled, Like Something Was Always Missing But Now It’s Not & Idk Why But I Kinda Feel like What Ikora Said In That Last Cutscene After Beating The Witness “I Thought It Would Feel Different” & It Does Actually, It’s Lime We’ve Been Fighting Enemy After Enemy Nonstop & Now That We’ve Killed The Biggest One (The Witness) The Story Itself & The Game Feels Empty Lol But Fulfilled At The Same Time lol. Sorry For Such A Long Comment.
After what Pete did? I highly doubt it.
Try warframe! will give you a similar feel to destiny but with a team that listens and works with their community... it's incredibly refreshing (though the new player experience is - really quite terrible) doing it with a friend helps lol
Warframe feels like playing Destiny strikes over and over again with more various abilities. Thats the loop.
@@swarlly oh! I don't feel that way, but that sucks warframe feels that way for you; I just like the variety in content and the vastness. Also something different to do
What’s with you people and what the man does with his money? You also sound like Jerry or a dev who lost their job. Yes, Pete parsons have probably signed up on more than he can chew, but I’m pretty sure there were/are multiple C role leaders within bungie who are managing Destiny and other projects that have been mismanaged them and have caused multiple cancelled projects.
Pete parsons haven’t change destiny narratives, that fall on the devs, anyone playing destiny knows bungie projects have changed directions multiple time last minute due for whatever reasons and who’s fault are those?
Many issues with destiny started with leadership overseeing destiny and claiming the devs aren’t as fault at all and it’s all Pete is ignorant
“you people”? Sounds kinda derogatory…
i have no idea how people can play this dogwater in 2024.
Parasocial towards a game? It's not a person, "Jerry" is not calling you up to make amends and then disappointing you later.
If the game is ass, drop it. I dropped it when double primary made it boring as f-ck. I dropped it when shadowkeep reskinned the moon instead of new content. But acting like you are standing on some moral high ground and "voting" by not playing the game is crazy cope.
Destiny 2 is the only revenue bungie has currently. With Sony's huge investment, there's no way they will let bungie quit on destiny 2 with zero return in revenue. Destiny 2 will get updates at least until Marathon is released. And if that flops, Sony will force bungie to make Destiny 3 in order to make some of their money back.
Honestly I'm tired of hearing all these content creators and community members just talk negative about destiny. Just sounds like a bunch of entitled nonsense to me. Good luck finding another game that has half of what destiny has. I think it will be better for destiny and the destiny community once all the negative Nancy's quit the game
What game, your not getting another expansion
"waaah waah dey hurt my feel feels talking bad bout muh lgbtq game!!!"
& it’s obvious this person’s never known someone with alcoholism or drug addiction lol
Ayo 4+ mins of the same thing over and over and over to paint your analogy is mind numbing, listen back on your vids man and think if youd wanna watch/listen to it. Playing this in the background as i gamed was rough, your intro was so bad it made something in me wanna be against you lol when you brought up Jerry again i had to fight a physical reflex that my body took to get away from your voice. Keep working at it, maybe think about writing a script next time and good luck to you in the future.
"If you won't care about me then I just won't play your game." Don't play then. Why make a big deal about it?
Because I like to make videos... and you watch :)
Destiny was never a good game!! What we loved was the guns 🔫 Destiny was terrible game with great guns. The dlcs were very inconsistent the finally shape was meh at best.
Destiny
Story -0
Content 3
Guns - 8
Community- Toxic -25
Boring asf
OK so I’m going to be considerate and rude….
First the rude…
Oh cut out the violin music while sitting next to a lit candle with tears coming down your cheek you don’t think I’m a people felt that way yourself man up a little bit and it’s even worse when I try RUclipsr who I’ve never heard of combined with a person OK who is talking about this after numerous other people are already talking about leaving as it is so you just come off as some nobody I never heard of who is now wanting to try to do a very long winded emotional journey about how you feel like you need to leave this game…. Where is the thing a lot of us do not have an endless amount of money to just jump onto new games every time things get hard and I’ve invested way too much money in this game to just jump off the ship!….. when is ship crashes in the iceberg I will gladly salute my fellow shipmates and go down with it….. The lifeboats are not an option!….lol
So now for the being considerate and nice….. I will admit destiny has definitely been a very toxic aspect in a lot of peoples lives frankly I feel like my health is failing because of the sheer amount of just irritation this game has produced….. but at the same time it’s still a hang out for me and some of the people who do still play destiny. It’s like that very crappy looking bar that looks bad outside but yeah inside is not half as bad and even though it should’ve been close down people still go there they still get drinks and they still vent out their problems and laugh about stuff and tell stories and for me that’s what destiny feels like most of the time. But if the game doesn’t die first then I will probably leave when that dries up when the people I talk to have completely disappeared and have completely left the game and I’m all by myself. That being said do not expect me to just jump onto the next big game in fact you might not even see me play any games until I see it at least been out for at least over two years because frankly I’m tired of blowing money that I could’ve used to go on vacation or to make some improvements on my house or go out to nicer restaurants just to find out that people are just bitching and whining about how the shade are on this weapon looks terrible I’m not playing anymore Mentality….(I know I said I’m gonna be nice and optimistic…I’m getting to it)
I feel like there are things that need to be done if destiny is to survive.
First off just trying to give up on the whole destiny three thing…. Cause honestly I don’t feel like relocating to another game like I said before. Second if Sony really wants to make their money back they really do need to do some damage control I mean first of everything we’ve gotten from Benji has either been somewhat cryptic or just flat out tone deaf. So what do you need to do is ensure us that the problematic people and I’m talking about the higher-ups are no longer in charge or in fact not even involved with destiny anymore. Because honestly I have no problem spending money in the cash app but I haven’t for quite some time and I’m kind of glad I haven’t because it seems like the higher-ups of Destiny or bungee we’re just using the game is some Golden goose to finance there over the top lifestyles. I mean I was joking over two years ago about maybe if the people at Bungie was stop ordering $500 steaks living in $250,000 a month apartment and didn’t drive around Golden Cadillacs maybe they would need money so much. I mean like a lot of people we were assuming why they needed so much money. I mean yes companies need to make money and I know cost go up by the way bungee was just putting money into everything that they needed to sell just made it feel like they were desperately trying to get money and now we find out is because they’ve been spending money like some rich privileged white kid who was irresponsibly given the parents credit card and went on a spending spree. And honestly, i’m surprise Sony Hotline set because from what I can tell it seems like almost everything that the higher-ups have bungee did was to try to make their company look bigger and Worth more than I actually was by spending money didn’t have. So the first thing Sony need to do is ensure us that if we do spend money in the cash shop that a much higher amount of it will go into the company and not go into the pockets of the CEOs! Secondly and I know this is going to ruffle someone’s feathers I honestly think that they should scrap marathon…. Or at least scrap it and put it in a shelf somewhere because for the time being the only have destiny and it’s the only thing that’s going to keep the lights on for the time being. And I’m sure I’m alone when it comes to a lot of people who just don’t really care. And of course there’s also going to be the addictive people who are going to be resentful against marathon and will refuse to play it out of spite. So Sony needs to do some restructuring and outsourcing and try to get Destiny to A better place…. Some decent content…. Better seasonal structure…. Maybe not stick everything into the cash shop and put a larger amount of it in the game for players to go out after. Because a lot of it is because of the consistent focus on the cash shop. So doing that would bring some goodwill back to the game and possibly get more players to return knowing that they are not having most of the Contant in the eververse.
End it was the last thing I want to say to you is that looking back I can’t help but feel like a lot of the stuff that we were told in the past that was arguably said by the Debs may have actually been from the higher ups so it makes me wonder if some of the stuff that we’ve been complaint about what is considered to be put into the game or changed but it was the CEO‘s who told the dabs and creators to lie and just say no because we don’t wanna spend the money or resources. Seriously that’s what paranoia like,it’s a very steep icy hill, you just can’t stop sliding down further and further.
You should be nice some time :)