I loved hedge shears...specially wide opened...That shears always make me smile...Why? Really I dont know...I'm happy when I took them...I can't stop smiling...😅 I saw Waldo at the end of video...Say hi to my old friend,sir...
Mortise chisel? But I can’t imagine them putting in that much effort at the factory. Unless it was automated like one of those mortising chainsaw things. The shape of the sheet metal handles reminds me of the profile of a mortise chisel a bit. That’s a good one…I’ll be thinking about that.
This seemingly easy restoration turned out to be very complex. It’s a job that only John could do properly. Can’t wait for part 2. As a side note, I’m a Gen X’er who never served in the military and thinks our government is as corrupt as a 3rd world South American dictatorship. But that doesn’t mean I don’t love my country and appreciate seeing Old Glory flying proudly. I fly the flag at my home and my business and I love your flagpole and how you proudly display the flag.
John- The great Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty has to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" These last couple years has opened the eyes of many people and let them see and feel the truth. It is like a great awakening for some. Many of us had the same experience with Jimmy Carter! Sometimes people need that kick in the a$$ to see thru the BS that has been force fed to them by the main stream media. Remember the old adage- Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me... =D The best is yet to come!
John I too fly several US flags at my home. The two flags I cherish most is one that I purchased several years ago that flew over USS Arizona on December 7 2013. The other is the coffin flag from my uncles funeral who was Kia on Iwo Jima when he was 18. Love your channel.
That my friend is the ULTIMATE!!!! Kids do NOT know what stress is! Being an 18 year old on an island with guys shooting at you! Now that is stress!!!!! I for one appreciate his service! He and many other kids of that time are the reason we live in the best country on this God Green Earth!
Yes, those are factory installed handles. My granddad had a pair of these with the same rod and nut on the ends. I thought they were strange then, and now that I see them disassembled, they were really weird!
It's actually how sword handles were held on. So not that weird really. Tang bolsters go way back. Though back in the old days they'd just bend the tang over. The threads are a modern twist on the concept. You see it a lot on draw knife handles.
@@johnpossum556 Oh no... My granddad grew up in the great depression so he never threw anything away! It was '73-'74 and the clippers were old and rusty at that time... They defiantly could have been war era vintage.
I have that exact Wiss Hedge Shears. I prefer to use them versus an electric version as you get a pretty good upper body workout trimming the evergreens in front of the house. Thanks for "shearing!"
I also think the cut quality is better than an electric trimmer. That said, sometimes I’m lazy and use electric trimmers. I’ll “cut out” the parting pun.🤪😜
Even with only the wire brushing and turning the new handles the trimmers already look better! You could drill out the slot using the drill press and making them undersized and then heating the metal handles and burning out the slots to final size. Thanks for sharing this.
I see you salvaged the umbrella post. I did the same and used several pieces as dowel pins to secure my back deck. I made hanging brackets with the shorter ribs and used the long ones as tomato plant stakes. If anyone has been to a lumber store recently, the prices have risen a lot. There is a lot of wood in a table top, a headboard and dresser drawres. It's salvagable and it's free. I used the wood in numerous woodworking projects
Hi John, I have used a square blank, sawn it in half lengthwise, passed the two pieces through the saw to cut two dadoes, and then glued the halves back together again. Then turn it on the lathe. With modern glues and long grain gluing, it is very strong.
When I look at different tools I often wonder what kind of machine they used to perform a specific operation to create something like that handle...........A quick search and I find some hedge clippers with nuts on the end so I assume that's original.
I wonder if you could cut reliefs in the handle so that the handles acted like a broach.... the purest tool folks would go crazy, but i bet it would work. Can't wait to see how the heating works. Cheers
I would start with a 8 foot piece of 1 by 2 and set my TS height to 1/16 inch tilted 45 degrees then run it through then flip it so I end up with room for the rod. Then I'd trace and hand carve inside the line the room for the handle with this little AST German steel chip carving knife I bought. ( You don't know how nice it is to sit in the sun and carve tool handles this summer! ) Or a paring chisel. I enjoy hand carving little projects like this. I'd use a dowel pin for alignment, if needed. Brass or wood, hand clamp. Glue up then turn it. Yesterday I made some ferrules from a thrown out bathroom plumbing fixture and I think this project would be perfect for the parts I cut off that were brass but then there are two shiny chrome pieces that screw on. Give it some Bling! My father would have made handles for it from broken hockey sticks. He used them for everything.
Use a square drill bit! 😁👍🏼. Seriously though there are tools that combine a drill inside a square chisel. Dave at Engels Coach Shop uses them to hog out the hubs on wooden wheels where the spokes go in. I know this is into end grain, and its tapered so you would not go straight down so it would be a finicky thing to do, but it might work. Seriously though if I was trying to do this, I would make the large hole and then use a narrow chisel and start making the rectangular hole little by little. Then burn it in for final fit.
That straight thing for trimming must have been made strictly for hedges but not good for general shrub and garden trimming. As you identified that leverage and the momentum of the closing blades is really gets it done.
I would Drill the hole a little over size then use a pairing chisel to take out some of the waste then burn it in to final fit. Plane makers used “ Plane making floats“ to remove wood at angles and weird places like this. Also some knife makers use a tool they call a broach. Looks a lot like the metal working broach except it’s used by hand with a T handle. That would be a good tool of this job. Or just drill out a much larger hole use the burn in method and fill it all with epoxy haha. Love the content!! Thanks for the video
You pair chisels with what kind of wine? Or did you mean a paring chisel? Paring is when you shave. What you really want to use is a mortising chisel. A mortising chisel would have square shoulders. Makes them stouter for chopping operations. Mortising end grain may be a bit problematic. A chisel likes to track with the grain. A bevel down technique might mitigate that?
Yes “paring” chisel. Because it is end grain I would much rather use my paring chisels than a mortise chisel. But there are hundreds of ways to do it. No way is wrong. Maybe more efficient though
Looking forward to the finish on the hedge trimmer. If it were me cutting in those internal slots on the handle, I would find or make a chisel and remove as much material as possible before burning the handles in. Would also make sheet metal go/no go gage to get the approximate size, of course making it a bit smaller all the way around. Just a thought sir. Thanks for the video sir, enjoyed it.
Nice explaining weird bolt system , I would make a jig for the drill press using the angles on the steel shaft drill four holes and finish with your burning method. Looking forward to part two.
Hi Mr. John! Is there anything you only have one of? You have everything! It's awesome! The clippers are going to come out nice. That stick you used looks to be real good wood from what I can tell! Nice!
You never know exactly until you’re hands on. I think I would have taken two boards for each handle, fitted them and glued them to gather before turning. You will figure it out and share more knowledge to all of us viewers. That’s why I watch 3 days a week. Thank You
Nice work so far. The handles look great! How about putting a sabre saw blade down the hole and use it to rough in some channels. Use a file or square rasp for final shaping and fit. Good luck!
Nice start to the restoration. I think I’d drill some smaller holes close in size to those flat side pieces. Then try and clean out the web between the holes with a small chisel. My initial thoughts but not positive if that would work. Would definitely try on scrap. Looking forward to the finishing of this project to see how you do it. Very cool trimmer examples at the start. Thanks for the pics of “Old Glory”. Nice way to wrap things up.
Interesting conversation. I think I would take two pieces of square wood to tackle this one. I would trace out the shape and route out half the depth on one side and half on the other. Then I would wood glue them together and clamp. Then turn it to shape on the lathe.
John. Great video. I know you are going to figure it out. I would scoop out the front part. But that is just me. Can't wait to see what you do. Have a great week....👍❤...
0:47 Since you place water bowls out for the critters, place marbles in one open shallow water container (i.e. Plate or Frisbee) so that there are many little islands in the water. Birds, Butterflies & Bees will thank you! Many of them can land on the marbles and feel safe, while getting water.
Very nice to see you do a pair of trimmers. I have about three that need work. I always try to keep the concave parts of the jaws very clean, I'm under the impression that that really helps with the cutting action. Great job so far I really wish I had some of your skills and concentration. I'd be chiselling that piece of timber out for sure. I look forward to Fridays!
1960's - The sound of my Dad (on a stool/ chair with back removed) snipping away at the privet with his manual clippers/shears - a memory of long ago summer days. Sadly he's gone now but those shears are still maintained (even though I have electric ones too) and they still make that "snick-snick" sound when I do quick trims instead of fighting with 'the long extension cable'! I also have a pair of the scaled down ones, I've heard them called 'Lady Shears' and Junior/kiddie Shears' so who knows?
If I were trying to do those handles there are a few options I might try. One would be to carve the shape into the block of wood, glue another piece on top, and then turn them round. Could be a challenge to get it mounted ion the lathe but there are options that could work. Especially if you put the wide end in the chuck. Another option would be to drill through and then drill some additional holes at a slight diagonal to functional creature a taper in the slot about halfway down to receive the tang. or similarly drill that centre hole and then use a small file to file the hole wider at the top. This would likely be the most accurate and the most time consuming.
Hey Scout, how about drilling two or three small holes ( approximately 1/16" or so smaller length & widthwise, then using a dremel with a side cutting bit/burr to open up/knock off the "points" , & finish with a mill file square up the channel.
My milling machine is floor standing so I have a bigger Z axis travel than your bench milling machine. Hence I would have mounted the handles in my milling machine to drill the centre hole, then the side holes for the jaw. I would then have mounted on the lathe to shape at the end. Easy to mount the ferrule end in the chuck. I do appreciate the challenge of the handles. Dave.
I switched over to hand hedge shears. The electric shears are quick, but the wound nodules build up over time. Hand shears I have more control over shaping the shrubs.
The home crafter could shape the interior holes with a narrow mortising chisel. The factory probably uses a narrow chain mortiser to make the cuts in the end of each handle...
Thanks for the video. Well, what do you know!? Last week I bought a fairly similar pair of solid hedge trimmers, with good features, by Wilkinson Sword, from a local agricultural show here in sunny Sussex, UK. £3/$5 to a good cause. They work well but will renovate them, clean the steel, sharpen blades, sand the wooden handles and then revarnish or paint them. Job's a good 'un! 🇬🇧👍🇺🇸
Great video , Those handles turned out great. I think 🤔 they used a mortise chisel to accommodate the metal end piece of the shears . I did see a couple Lakeside shears on line & they didn’t have that treaded end . I have a pair but ,not Lakeside and they don’t have that treaded end , seems unusual but maybe they did make it not sure 🤷♂️?? But anyway I know when you get done with them they will turn out fantastic. I can’t wait to see part 2 of your video.👍
Even though it typically has a handle about 5 ft long, Peaveys are very typically drilled the whole length with a piece of rod threaded on the end. It might be the ones specifically popular in Alaska, pretty much as a rule they are made of sitka spruce, with no heartwood but otherwise from rather deep in the tree. I think they tried to capture just a tiny edge of Heartwood and this gives a certain amount of spring not unlike native American bow and arrows. But the lumber was pretty huge up there, I could understand the need for threaded rods. You would still be able to get some work done even if you got a small split or crack
I think with a larger drill bit and a skinny chisel you can get pretty close to the fit shape. It's probably not as hard as it looks to do. It's like a tapered mortise. And if your mortise goes wild then epoxy the handle in. Those threaded tension rods were stock for the tool.
Can’t wait to see the final outcome; and after seeing all those different types I’m inspired to restore the True Temper pair I found this summer. Love the flag pictures!
If it was a remarkably straight grain wood, it could have been done by first drilling the half inch hole in the center and following up with two quarter inch holes at the outside edges of the slots. If it was straight green enough, a simple narrow chisel or even perhaps a shaper could have been used to remove the two long strips of wood. You don't need a whole lot of torque for wood, maybe they used a key seating machine, there were several varieties available in the 30s and 40s capable of making internal splines and key ways in tool steel sometimes more than 6 ft. I'm sure one of these tools couldn't be very easily adapted to make those custom holes. Just my two cents
Just thinking that a step drill for the enlarged hole, it seem to mimic the tang tapers. Small, half-round taper wedges, on opposite sides of tang...all epoxied together. Mirror finish furrels, and then some Scoutcrafter red embellishment rings on the handles???
Slice two new boards in half. Trace the metal arms on each half. Chisel each half, but leave the end edges solid. Mark the ends where the exit holes should be. Glue it up. Chuck it on the lathe. Then drill the solid ends out.
I think your idea about the hot-fit char method is going to be way more fun. I found these vintage wooden bird sewing caddies, where the scissors make the beak. It was so funny I had to make one for my mom. I made the bird out of a 3-ply plywood sandwich with the middle ply being the thickness of the scissors. So instead of gouging, I just jig-sawed the shape of the scissors in the middle ply and glued it up.
I learned from Dave Engels( Carriage builder from Montana) to drill the wholes first and then turn the grip down on the lathe, by taken care of the grain in the handle. Might be work. Sometimes I'll try to do this
Can’t wait to see the next episode of how my hero gets out of peril on this one just like the old cliffhanger tv shows but you know it’s gonna be alright in the end 👍
You could always split the handles and carve each side to fit. You have the top collars to hold them together then on the bottom you could wrap them or run dowels through with cover plates (something like scales on a knife) and epoxy covers over the dowels or even just leave them,,,,,,might sound overboard, but that method of keeping the handles tight is a bit overboard also , hehe.
Oh my gosh! I have an umbrella that the bottom section somehow warped and have been searching for just the piece that you cut into pieces. Still, if anybody can figure out a way to fix it you can. Absolutely love watching the flag fly against that beautiful sky.
I woulda been tempted to lose the tie rods and add another hole, inlet two wood halves, glued them together and added pins like a knife handle and just shape the wood in place.
I can. I think a professional gardener would go to the trouble to stop the handles falling off. Especially if it was their favourite (or only) pair of shears. Also, never underestimate the madness of farmers, 'agricultural' is a synonym for clumsy or clumsy looking for a reason...
I would proceed the way your going and now I would enlarge the hole only as deep as I have too, than use a chisel and mortise the rest. Looks like only one side is tapered.
Why not use a thin kerf band saw to split the handle length wise. Use a table saw to cut out the space for the trimmer handle. Glue the pieces back together and sand the edges. That leaves the steel temper alone.
I like Zagray, especially the BIG motor inside. As far as the clippers ,we have some lo[ppers with the bolt through handles, a pair of clippers with the notch and compound linkage but older and not that brand. As for those I'd get a couple of pieces of pipe or rebar and weld them to the stubbs but in your case it'd just be a big 'OOPS, can't!' and give it back. Out of my league. Happy dry week for you and BLESSINGS!
I'd drill the center hole, you already did, then use a 1/4" wide mortising chisel to elongate the the hole to accept the width of the tangs. The mortises are tapered, so you are not really removing that much wood either side of the center round hole
I don't think I have ever seen hedge clippers configured that way. They are probably uncommon for a reason, though. I had a pair of those small clippers when I was a kid. I assumed at the time they were made for a kid to use. However, I think that is what my parents wanted me to think. Haven't seen a pair since then. Until today. 😎
Wow Scout, is there anything you can’t fix😂😂😂. If I was doing it I think I would try cutting those slots with a drill bit and drilling at an angle from either side or use one of those drill bits that files. Does that make sense? Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
My neighbors all think it's funny, but I've got an everyday lawn mower that I welded onto a spare backhoe bucket, that's what I do my hedges with these days. It's not elegant, but it's fast and leaves very straight lines
More fancy toenail cutters .... Well I'd step the hole sizes up gradually corresponding to the metals width then fill it with epoxy .. or just cover with electrical tape to start with 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe someone has already suggested this. Try using a belt hanger bit. They are 24” long if I remember right. Don’t know how that would work in a drill press.
I loved hedge shears...specially wide opened...That shears always make me smile...Why? Really I dont know...I'm happy when I took them...I can't stop smiling...😅 I saw Waldo at the end of video...Say hi to my old friend,sir...
Mortise chisel? But I can’t imagine them putting in that much effort at the factory. Unless it was automated like one of those mortising chainsaw things. The shape of the sheet metal handles reminds me of the profile of a mortise chisel a bit.
That’s a good one…I’ll be thinking about that.
They had some trick for cutting that end grain tapered mortise that's for sure.
Great episode. If I had to make that hole, I'd drill the size hole needed and then I'd buy a chisel and carve out the slits on the side. Thanks!
This seemingly easy restoration turned out to be very complex. It’s a job that only John could do properly. Can’t wait for part 2.
As a side note, I’m a Gen X’er who never served in the military and thinks our government is as corrupt as a 3rd world South American dictatorship. But that doesn’t mean I don’t love my country and appreciate seeing Old Glory flying proudly. I fly the flag at my home and my business and I love your flagpole and how you proudly display the flag.
Well put!! Great video as always from the maestro!!
John- The great Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty has to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" These last couple years has opened the eyes of many people and let them see and feel the truth. It is like a great awakening for some. Many of us had the same experience with Jimmy Carter! Sometimes people need that kick in the a$$ to see thru the BS that has been force fed to them by the main stream media. Remember the old adage- Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me... =D The best is yet to come!
Interesting collection of hedge clippers. So many different approaches for the same function. Reminds me of the endless styles of cigar cutters.
John I too fly several US flags at my home. The two flags I cherish most is one that I purchased several years ago that flew over USS Arizona on December 7 2013. The other is the coffin flag from my uncles funeral who was Kia on Iwo Jima when he was 18. Love your channel.
That my friend is the ULTIMATE!!!! Kids do NOT know what stress is! Being an 18 year old on an island with guys shooting at you! Now that is stress!!!!! I for one appreciate his service! He and many other kids of that time are the reason we live in the best country on this God Green Earth!
Yes, those are factory installed handles. My granddad had a pair of these with the same rod and nut on the ends. I thought they were strange then, and now that I see them disassembled, they were really weird!
Do you have any idea on the year? Because it looks like something they would have done to save metal for the war effort, maybe.
It's actually how sword handles were held on. So not that weird really. Tang bolsters go way back. Though back in the old days they'd just bend the tang over. The threads are a modern twist on the concept. You see it a lot on draw knife handles.
@@johnpossum556 Oh no... My granddad grew up in the great depression so he never threw anything away! It was '73-'74 and the clippers were old and rusty at that time... They defiantly could have been war era vintage.
I have watched several of your videos, and really enjoy them. this restoration is quite interesting because of the unique handles. Great job.
I have that exact Wiss Hedge Shears. I prefer to use them versus an electric version as you get a pretty good upper body workout trimming the evergreens in front of the house. Thanks for "shearing!"
I also think the cut quality is better than an electric trimmer. That said, sometimes I’m lazy and use electric trimmers. I’ll “cut out” the parting pun.🤪😜
Even with only the wire brushing and turning the new handles the trimmers already look better! You could drill out the slot using the drill press and making them undersized and then heating the metal handles and burning out the slots to final size. Thanks for sharing this.
I see you salvaged the umbrella post. I did the same and used several pieces as dowel pins to secure my back deck. I made hanging brackets with the shorter ribs and used the long ones as tomato plant stakes. If anyone has been to a lumber store recently, the prices have risen a lot. There is a lot of wood in a table top, a headboard and dresser drawres. It's salvagable and it's free. I used the wood in numerous woodworking projects
I would use a 1/4' mortise bit, left & right of the centre hole...
Hi John,
I have used a square blank, sawn it in half lengthwise, passed the two pieces through the saw to cut two dadoes, and then glued the halves back together again. Then turn it on the lathe. With modern glues and long grain gluing, it is very strong.
I know how I would accomplish that job. I would pay a man like you, smart and talented. Not to mention patient. Keep it up!
Mid-week wednesday! As opposed to end-of-week wednesday :D
Another great episode. Thanks for that!
When I look at different tools I often wonder what kind of machine they used to perform a specific operation to create something like that handle...........A quick search and I find some hedge clippers with nuts on the end so I assume that's original.
I wonder if you could cut reliefs in the handle so that the handles acted like a broach.... the purest tool folks would go crazy, but i bet it would work. Can't wait to see how the heating works. Cheers
I didn’t realize there were so many types of hedge clippers. Your next video will be interesting on how you attach the handles. Thank You for sharing
I would start with a 8 foot piece of 1 by 2 and set my TS height to 1/16 inch tilted 45 degrees then run it through then flip it so I end up with room for the rod. Then I'd trace and hand carve inside the line the room for the handle with this little AST German steel chip carving knife I bought. ( You don't know how nice it is to sit in the sun and carve tool handles this summer! ) Or a paring chisel. I enjoy hand carving little projects like this.
I'd use a dowel pin for alignment, if needed. Brass or wood, hand clamp. Glue up then turn it.
Yesterday I made some ferrules from a thrown out bathroom plumbing fixture and I think this project would be perfect for the parts I cut off that were brass but then there are two shiny chrome pieces that screw on. Give it some Bling!
My father would have made handles for it from broken hockey sticks. He used them for everything.
I always grab hockey sticks whenever I see them however they aren't thrown out as much these days!
Use a square drill bit! 😁👍🏼. Seriously though there are tools that combine a drill inside a square chisel. Dave at Engels Coach Shop uses them to hog out the hubs on wooden wheels where the spokes go in. I know this is into end grain, and its tapered so you would not go straight down so it would be a finicky thing to do, but it might work. Seriously though if I was trying to do this, I would make the large hole and then use a narrow chisel and start making the rectangular hole little by little. Then burn it in for final fit.
The handles came out great. Nice relaxing video to watch whine I listen to a huge hurricane outside!!
"Snoop" great project for your hands and mind...tanks for sharing
I bet those come out really neat. I love the design of these clippers. Can't wait to see the results 🙂
The small hedge cutters are for kids to help Daddy cut the hedge. The handles look good. Who ever fitted the nuts a bolts was a genius.
That straight thing for trimming must have been made strictly for hedges but not good for general shrub and garden trimming. As you identified that leverage and the momentum of the closing blades is really gets it done.
I would Drill the hole a little over size then use a pairing chisel to take out some of the waste then burn it in to final fit. Plane makers used “ Plane making floats“ to remove wood at angles and weird places like this. Also some knife makers use a tool they call a broach. Looks a lot like the metal working broach except it’s used by hand with a T handle. That would be a good tool of this job. Or just drill out a much larger hole use the burn in method and fill it all with epoxy haha. Love the content!! Thanks for the video
You pair chisels with what kind of wine? Or did you mean a paring chisel? Paring is when you shave. What you really want to use is a mortising chisel. A mortising chisel would have square shoulders. Makes them stouter for chopping operations. Mortising end grain may be a bit problematic. A chisel likes to track with the grain. A bevel down technique might mitigate that?
Yes “paring” chisel. Because it is end grain I would much rather use my paring chisels than a mortise chisel. But there are hundreds of ways to do it. No way is wrong. Maybe more efficient though
Looking forward to the finish on the hedge trimmer. If it were me cutting in those internal slots on the handle, I would find or make a chisel and remove as much material as possible before burning the handles in. Would also make sheet metal go/no go gage to get the approximate size, of course making it a bit smaller all the way around. Just a thought sir. Thanks for the video sir, enjoyed it.
Nice explaining weird bolt system , I would make a jig for the drill press using the angles on the steel shaft drill four holes and finish with your burning method. Looking forward to part two.
I wonder if a mortising drill would work for the "wings" ? Then you could drill out the center and clean up with a small sharp chisel
I think the threaded parts were retro fitted but I would use a broaching tool to cut the linear parts of the cut out
They do make a square mortise bit I recently learned about. Other than that I would think drill it alittle smaller and use a chisel to finish it off.
Hi Mr. John! Is there anything you only have one of? You have everything! It's awesome! The clippers are going to come out nice. That stick you used looks to be real good wood from what I can tell! Nice!
Vic- You see how fast the stuff comes in once you are serious. =D
@@ScoutCrafter true dat! 😊👍
You never know exactly until you’re hands on. I think I would have taken two boards for each handle, fitted them and glued them to gather before turning. You will figure it out and share more knowledge to all of us viewers. That’s why I watch 3 days a week. Thank You
Thanks Jess! 😃👍
Very interesting. Looking forward to Friday's episode.
...old school. no cords, no batteries, just good old elbow grease, good one...lol..keep safe..
Nice work so far. The handles look great! How about putting a sabre saw blade down the hole and use it to rough in some channels. Use a file or square rasp for final shaping and fit. Good luck!
Nice start to the restoration. I think I’d drill some smaller holes close in size to those flat side pieces. Then try and clean out the web between the holes with a small chisel. My initial thoughts but not positive if that would work. Would definitely try on scrap. Looking forward to the finishing of this project to see how you do it. Very cool trimmer examples at the start. Thanks for the pics of “Old Glory”. Nice way to wrap things up.
Interesting conversation. I think I would take two pieces of square wood to tackle this one. I would trace out the shape and route out half the depth on one side and half on the other. Then I would wood glue them together and clamp. Then turn it to shape on the lathe.
Looks like such a easy fix but it’s a real tuffy can’t wait to see them finished great video scout god bless take care 🇺🇸🇳🇿👍🗽🥃
John. Great video. I know you are going to figure it out. I would scoop out the front part. But that is just me. Can't wait to see what you do. Have a great week....👍❤...
0:47 Since you place water bowls out for the critters, place marbles in one open shallow water container (i.e. Plate or Frisbee) so that there are many little islands in the water. Birds, Butterflies & Bees will thank you! Many of them can land on the marbles and feel safe, while getting water.
great thinking!
Very nice to see you do a pair of trimmers. I have about three that need work. I always try to keep the concave parts of the jaws very clean, I'm under the impression that that really helps with the cutting action. Great job so far I really wish I had some of your skills and concentration. I'd be chiselling that piece of timber out for sure. I look forward to Fridays!
1960's - The sound of my Dad (on a stool/ chair with back removed) snipping away at the privet with his manual clippers/shears - a memory of long ago summer days. Sadly he's gone now but those shears are still maintained (even though I have electric ones too) and they still make that "snick-snick" sound when I do quick trims instead of fighting with 'the long extension cable'!
I also have a pair of the scaled down ones, I've heard them called 'Lady Shears' and Junior/kiddie Shears' so who knows?
I have these hedge clippers too; however, I prefer the electric version which is easier to use.
This is a tricky one. I’m wondering if some type mortise bit would work? Can’t wait to see the ingenious solution you have.
If I were trying to do those handles there are a few options I might try. One would be to carve the shape into the block of wood, glue another piece on top, and then turn them round. Could be a challenge to get it mounted ion the lathe but there are options that could work. Especially if you put the wide end in the chuck. Another option would be to drill through and then drill some additional holes at a slight diagonal to functional creature a taper in the slot about halfway down to receive the tang. or similarly drill that centre hole and then use a small file to file the hole wider at the top. This would likely be the most accurate and the most time consuming.
Hey Scout, how about drilling two or three small holes ( approximately 1/16" or so smaller length & widthwise, then using a dremel with a side cutting bit/burr to open up/knock off the "points" , & finish with a mill file square up the channel.
My milling machine is floor standing so I have a bigger Z axis travel than your bench milling machine. Hence I would have mounted the handles in my milling machine to drill the centre hole, then the side holes for the jaw. I would then have mounted on the lathe to shape at the end. Easy to mount the ferrule end in the chuck.
I do appreciate the challenge of the handles.
Dave.
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I switched over to hand hedge shears. The electric shears are quick, but the wound nodules build up over time. Hand shears I have more control over shaping the shrubs.
In thru tang knife making as you said you can burn it on or a handle broach saw can be used to fit up the handle to the tang.
The home crafter could shape the interior holes with a narrow mortising chisel. The factory probably uses a narrow chain mortiser to make the cuts in the end of each handle...
Thanks for the video.
Well, what do you know!? Last week I bought a fairly similar pair of solid hedge trimmers, with good features, by Wilkinson Sword, from a local agricultural show here in sunny Sussex, UK. £3/$5 to a good cause. They work well but will renovate them, clean the steel, sharpen blades, sand the wooden handles and then revarnish or paint them. Job's a good 'un!
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Interesting handle on those pair. I would think possibly a skinny wood chisel to cut the slot or a skinny round file possibly both.
Great video , Those handles turned out great. I think 🤔 they used a mortise chisel to accommodate the metal end piece of the shears . I did see a couple Lakeside shears on line & they didn’t have that treaded end . I have a pair but ,not Lakeside and they don’t have that treaded end , seems unusual but maybe they did make it not sure 🤷♂️?? But anyway I know when you get done with them they will turn out fantastic. I can’t wait to see part 2 of your video.👍
Even though it typically has a handle about 5 ft long, Peaveys are very typically drilled the whole length with a piece of rod threaded on the end. It might be the ones specifically popular in Alaska, pretty much as a rule they are made of sitka spruce, with no heartwood but otherwise from rather deep in the tree. I think they tried to capture just a tiny edge of Heartwood and this gives a certain amount of spring not unlike native American bow and arrows. But the lumber was pretty huge up there, I could understand the need for threaded rods. You would still be able to get some work done even if you got a small split or crack
Using a Peavy makes you feel all powerful, lol
mortise bits on the ends.will give the squared up look
I think with a larger drill bit and a skinny chisel you can get pretty close to the fit shape. It's probably not as hard as it looks to do. It's like a tapered mortise. And if your mortise goes wild then epoxy the handle in. Those threaded tension rods were stock for the tool.
Can’t wait to see the final outcome; and after seeing all those different types I’m inspired to restore the True Temper pair I found this summer. Love the flag pictures!
I agree with Big Pete use a mortising chisel drill bit you can get all different sizes
HA!!!!!!!!! Another OBI WONism! "It looks fancy but it does't work." CLASSIC!!!!!!
If it was a remarkably straight grain wood, it could have been done by first drilling the half inch hole in the center and following up with two quarter inch holes at the outside edges of the slots. If it was straight green enough, a simple narrow chisel or even perhaps a shaper could have been used to remove the two long strips of wood. You don't need a whole lot of torque for wood, maybe they used a key seating machine, there were several varieties available in the 30s and 40s capable of making internal splines and key ways in tool steel sometimes more than 6 ft. I'm sure one of these tools couldn't be very easily adapted to make those custom holes. Just my two cents
Isn't it funny how depending on one's background there are so many different ways to approach this one problem... =D
Just thinking that a step drill for the enlarged hole, it seem to mimic the tang tapers. Small, half-round taper wedges, on opposite sides of tang...all epoxied together. Mirror finish furrels, and then some Scoutcrafter red embellishment rings on the handles???
Slice two new boards in half.
Trace the metal arms on each half.
Chisel each half, but leave the end edges solid.
Mark the ends where the exit holes should be.
Glue it up.
Chuck it on the lathe.
Then drill the solid ends out.
That was my original idea but I would have to lengthen it to seat it in the lathe... Thanks!
I think your idea about the hot-fit char method is going to be way more fun.
I found these vintage wooden bird sewing caddies, where the scissors make the beak. It was so funny I had to make one for my mom. I made the bird out of a 3-ply plywood sandwich with the middle ply being the thickness of the scissors. So instead of gouging, I just jig-sawed the shape of the scissors in the middle ply and glued it up.
To fit the handles you might want to try plane floats it’s like a file with larger teeth and it cuts on the pull stroke
I learned from Dave Engels( Carriage builder from Montana) to drill the wholes first and then turn the grip down on the lathe, by taken care of the grain in the handle. Might be work. Sometimes I'll try to do this
You're a good American buddy, keep it up
You could drill out most of the material on the end of the handle first then square off the shape with a chisel.
Can’t wait to see the next episode of how my hero gets out of peril on this one just like the old cliffhanger tv shows but you know it’s gonna be alright in the end 👍
You could always split the handles and carve each side to fit. You have the top collars to hold them together then on the bottom you could wrap them or run dowels through with cover plates (something like scales on a knife) and epoxy covers over the dowels or even just leave them,,,,,,might sound overboard, but that method of keeping the handles tight is a bit overboard also , hehe.
John you could use a knifeMakers Broach ... for the tang fit up... good luck..lol 👍
Oh my gosh! I have an umbrella that the bottom section somehow warped and have been searching for just the piece that you cut into pieces. Still, if anybody can figure out a way to fix it you can. Absolutely love watching the flag fly against that beautiful sky.
God bless
Maybe it was drilled with 1 large hole and 2 small ,but by pressing the iron in the wood,the rond corners became square through the pressure .
Using those hand operated sickle-bar trimmers certainly required Beefy arms to make any kind of progress!
The Dake better watch its back- The Lathe is gunning for the favorite spot
If only you could work something on the Dake and the lathe at the same time!
I woulda been tempted to lose the tie rods and add another hole, inlet two wood halves, glued them together and added pins like a knife handle and just shape the wood in place.
They are unusual, but I can’t imagine someone going through that effort to drill out the handles and bend that threaded rod for that purpose
I can. I think a professional gardener would go to the trouble to stop the handles falling off. Especially if it was their favourite (or only) pair of shears.
Also, never underestimate the madness of farmers, 'agricultural' is a synonym for clumsy or clumsy looking for a reason...
I would proceed the way your going and now I would enlarge the hole only as deep as I have too, than use a chisel and mortise the rest. Looks like only one side is tapered.
Why not use a thin kerf band saw to split the handle length wise. Use a table saw to cut out the space for the trimmer handle.
Glue the pieces back together and sand the edges. That leaves the steel temper alone.
Great video Those two handles look like pieces of Ash wood it is hard to find a good piece of Ash these days.
Perhaps start with a long shaft dremel bit to hog the wood out checking with an inside calipers and when close, finish with a small rat tail file.
Getting the holes in those handles looks like a nightmare of a job.
I like Zagray, especially the BIG motor inside. As far as the clippers ,we have some lo[ppers with the bolt through handles, a pair of clippers with the notch and compound linkage but older and not that brand. As for those I'd get a couple of pieces of pipe or rebar and weld them to the stubbs but in your case it'd just be a big 'OOPS, can't!' and give it back. Out of my league. Happy dry week for you and BLESSINGS!
The holes on the end be hard to get looks like fun
I'd drill the center hole, you already did, then use a 1/4" wide mortising chisel to elongate the the hole to accept the width of the tangs. The mortises are tapered, so you are not really removing that much wood either side of the center round hole
You could do a handle diy ? Like Biffy funboard one! with welcro straps to mont on anything like a bicycle !
I don't think I have ever seen hedge clippers configured that way. They are probably uncommon for a reason, though. I had a pair of those small clippers when I was a kid. I assumed at the time they were made for a kid to use. However, I think that is what my parents wanted me to think. Haven't seen a pair since then. Until today. 😎
I think those CHASE shears are for Bonsai trees. 😀
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Wow Scout, is there anything you can’t fix😂😂😂. If I was doing it I think I would try cutting those slots with a drill bit and drilling at an angle from either side or use one of those drill bits that files. Does that make sense? Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
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My neighbors all think it's funny, but I've got an everyday lawn mower that I welded onto a spare backhoe bucket, that's what I do my hedges with these days. It's not elegant, but it's fast and leaves very straight lines
More fancy toenail cutters .... Well I'd step the hole sizes up gradually corresponding to the metals width then fill it with epoxy .. or just cover with electrical tape to start with 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe someone has already suggested this. Try using a belt hanger bit. They are 24” long if I remember right. Don’t know how that would work in a drill press.
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Did you consult Snoopy about the handles?
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It’s factory handles.
Amazing! Who would have thought?!