TIMESTAMPS 00:01 🎬 Quentin Tarantino discusses the history of home video distribution, including the role of Magnetic Home Video and its impact on the industry. 03:38 🎞 Quentin Tarantino talks about the consolidation of film libraries by major studios and how they sometimes replace original logos with their own on re-releases. 05:45 📼 Tarantino shares his enthusiasm for VHS tapes and discusses why certain films, like "Straw Dogs," are particularly suited for the VHS format. 09:43 💡 Tarantino discusses Sam Peckinpah's films and highlights "The Wild Bunch" and "Straw Dogs" as masterpieces, with a focus on the challenging and disturbing nature of "Straw Dogs." 17:23 🏴 Tarantino explains how the film adaptation of "Straw Dogs" transposes the story to Cornwall, emphasizing the unique culture and history of the Cornish people. 22:36 🎬 Quentin Tarantino discusses the complex dynamics in "Straw Dogs," highlighting how the female character's behavior contributes to the tension. 23:44 🎭 The discussion delves into the symbolism of the female character's connection with her dead father in the film. 25:16 🌟 The rape scene in "Straw Dogs" is analyzed for its complexity, as it transitions from horror to seduction. 28:00 💬 Reviews at the time expressed varying opinions on "Straw Dogs," with terms like "eroticizing rape" and "fascist celebration of violence" being used. 30:19 👀 Reasons behind the female character's decision not to tell her husband about the rape are explored, including feelings of guilt and his perceived ineffectuality. 36:37 🎭 The rape scene in "Straw Dogs" is discussed as a dramatic element rather than just a horrifying incident, with its complexity and impact on the narrative emphasized. 38:59 📽 Quentin Tarantino defends the portrayal of the female character's enjoyment during the rape scene, explaining it as a facet of sexual fantasy and domination. 43:38 🌟 Susan George's performance in "Straw Dogs" is praised for its vivacity and complexity, making her a standout character in the film. 45:41 🐱 Dustin Hoffman's character in "Straw Dogs" is portrayed as abusive and unsympathetic, even to a cat, setting the tone for his complex role. 58:33 📚 The title "Straw Dogs" has a Chinese origin, referring to objects discarded after use, symbolizing disposability. In the film, it may relate to the character Amy. 01:00:02 😡 Dustin Hoffman's character is unlikable and complex, making him a compelling yet contemptible protagonist. 01:03:04 🐾 The movie subtly uses the treatment of a cat to reflect the character's abusive tendencies, adding depth to the narrative. 01:05:39 🤔 There's ambiguity surrounding the cat's death, with hints that Amy suspects her husband's involvement, adding tension to the story. 01:07:14 🎬 The ambiguity in "Straw Dogs" is a strength, not a weakness, allowing for complex interpretations. 01:08:48 🎥 The effective use of slow-motion in depicting violence adds depth to the film. 01:09:32 🤯 Symbolism in the film, like the positioning of characters, offers layers of meaning. 01:10:28 🚶♂ The protagonist's failure to protect his wife and house symbolizes his inadequacy as a man. 01:11:51 🏠 The house in the film represents manhood and the family, with violence against it reflecting the protagonist's failures. 01:13:13 🎨 "Straw Dogs" defies clear moral distinctions, making it a complex and rewatchable piece of art. 01:14:59 🐀 The rat catcher's line symbolizes the chaos and moral ambiguity in the film. 01:15:12 👫 The ex-boyfriend's intervention during a rape scene adds further complexity to the characters. 01:18:29 💭 "Straw Dogs" may not have clear villains; cowardice and indecision are central themes causing chaos.
Its crazy how much Tarantino content there is on youtube of him just talking about a specific film or film in general and for over an hour, 2 hours and sometimes three and this Tarantino aint the same one from 25 years ago….he isnt manic. He’s thoughtful, unselfish and obviously enjoying himself. This is invaluable content for film lovers.
The algorithm gets a bad wrap for ruining people's brains and destroying society but I do like that it has sent me dozens of QT podcasts because I searched for it once in 2021.
Cmon Quentin - you don't LOVE 'Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia'? NO? You don't love that? Nobody can touch the atmosphere! Peckinpah is a monster, QT, a total monster.
Pat Garret & Billy The Kid is my favourite Peckinpah. My grandpa was a big western fan and would always watch his sunday matinee westerns when we were visiting and that was the first one I remember watching. Whenever I watch it again, I’m back at my grandpa’s house, half-watching the movie, half-watching my grandpa repeating the badass lines from the movie under his breath😅 Good times❤️
You guys are great. Video Plus. Albuquerque 1985-87. Magnetic Home Video! Takes me back. I still own "If" on VHS. Great analysis of "Straw Dogs" a film I own but haven't watched in a long time. Love listening to you guys because you sound just like me and my film geek buddies- now or back 40 years ago. Finally, I'm with you Quentin: "Best of Times" all-time favorite football movie and the only one made for, about, and champions us third-stringers.
Closest thing left is Video Library in Santa Fe. Indie with a good selection. They parse out the vhs copies from time to time. I’ve picked up a few nostalgic gems but on some htf titles they know what they have
There were a handful of prints of the original 1977 version of "Star Wars" that were done in IB Tech, in England I believe, one of the last countries where the system was available. Lucas has one, and there's a few others in the hands of fans who have used them to create restorations of the original "Han shot first" version before Lucas started his meddling with the "Special Editions". These prints would have had the printing matrices made from a negative, however, rather than the film being shot with 3-strip cameras which was original way it was done.
I couldn't disagree more with QT about Jerry Fielding's great score for Straw Dogs. Deservedly nominated for best score Oscar that year, and should have won. Fielding patterned the score after the style of Igor Stravinsky's "The Soldier''s Tale", at Peckinpah's request. Can't imagine SD with any other score. It's perfect.
I always think that I know a lot about film until I hear these guys talk. Also, Quentin acknowledges that his pretentiousness is insufferable, first time that I've heard that. Respect.
Ebert and others could not conceive that Dustin Hoffman’s intellectual character was the VILLAIN of the movie and therefore completely missed Peckinpah’s point.
Saying that Hoffman's character is THE villain in this film is ludicrous. I don't remember him terrorising anyone or committing rape, do you? He acted when pushed to the limit.
I watched Straw Dogs when I was very young. Maybe too young. The rape scene was one of the most disturbing movie scenes I have ever seen. Then again, I love that movie, and that makes me feel so guilty. Unbelievable, and so fascinating.
This helped me understand this film better. I was disappointed by it on my first time watching because I just didn't like any of the characters. One thing that actually helped me appreciate it more was when they read the PB interview with Peckinpah.
@@raymondsmith6870 so you get it the same way i do...I still watch my blue ray from time to time and am still affected by it esp the last scenes where they are gunned down...its all burned into my mind a lot like the film little big man I saw when I was 8 which was too young for that movie.
I think Straw Dogs is Sam's best movie in that violence has a place and is not just meaningless violence. Smaller movie and not so large scale like the Wild Bunch
Re: Peckinpah, WILD BUNCH, for sure. An indisputable masterpiece. I have certain problems with Straw Dogs, but I do like the film. The Getaway, a film easily underrated. And then I'd throw in Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. But I really hate Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. Gave it a few chances. It just doesn't work. .
Great film and study of masculinity. I think I read the book but it was titled Straw Dogs and not Treacherous Farm. I'm bit confused if I read a novelisation or not, it was definitely a bit different to the film
Can’t get over Tarantino saying Ride the High Country is not a good film. I wish he would have expounded upon that a bit. I didn’t enjoy the Wild Bunch very much but Ride the High Country as far a Sunday afternoon western is an amazing film
Yeah, i think she on one hand doesn’t want to know how David would respond. Part is guilty but she probably felt ultimately him knowing would be an unknown she didnt think would help her. If that makes sense.
I've noticed a lot of what Quentin said about changing the logos of the movies at the beginning. And I would ask the guy at the video counter why did they do that.. Disney is notorious for that as well.
Whoops. Nope, not "If" (Paramount) but own "The Making of Star Wars" on Magnetic Home Video. A late '77 TV Special documentary about said title, narrated by none other than "Cannon" himself, William Conrad. A real time-capsule that one.
A key turning point is when David, on the shoot, is deserted by the men who took him out there. He shoots a bird and the penny drops that they think he's a gutless fool. He changes.
The cast of British character players is peerless. Sam was living in the UK at the time and must have seen them on TV or in older films. The village hall scene with Colin Welland is basically French new wave with all the jump cuts and atmosphere as Amy sees the rapists grinning. Top notch stuff and as QT says this violence is really ugly and as realistic as real violence always is. Amy is, incidentally, the toughest person in the film as many women in Sam's films are. Think of Santa Berger's character in Major Dundee.
Back in the day ; a video store was judged by its "CULT" and "HORROR" section ! You know the video store was good if they had all the John Waters movies and all the Russ Meyer movies.
Many interesting and insightful observations and comments are presented in this review, and the film is an absolute classic in my mind, but I would like for a moment to defend the main male character, played by Dustin Hoffmann. He is a mathematics professor, obviously an introvert, who has been given a prestigious grant to write a book further developing his field of expertise. His young wife, with whom he already has a strained relationship, is acting as an attention-seeking nine-year-old (as mentioned repeatedly in this analysis), distracting and provoking him; a couple of times she is even directly obstructing his complicated and demanding work. And that's just the beginning of her little games, soon to backfire on her in the form of a double rape (the second part of it "entering by the back door" so to speak; incredibly you seem to overlook that one, boys!). Her motivation? Well, it seems to be a kind of revenge for his refusal to man up and get himself into a scrape with the same group of local baddies she is increasingly winding up in suggestive ways. You could say she's just bored and trying to kick up a bit of drama, or she could be acting according to her female nature (as Jordan Petersen might put it) by testing her mate to see if he is capable and willing to defend her in a state of pregnancy. But hang on: this is 1971, not the Stoneage. I don't think it would be too much to see some traces of a Lolitarian drama here, but to blame the male character for it alone and suggest that he is psychologically abusive towards his wife, well, such thinking can only suggest to me that someone among the audience has fallen for young Amy's dubious Lolitaesque charms to the point of losing his common sense. The other person - in fact a REAL person - who is unreasonably hung out to dry repeatedly in this discussion, is Gordon M Williams, who wrote the novel "The Siege of Trencher's Farm" on which the movie is based. As someone who lived for a considerable amount of years around the corner from that very farm (real name: Trenchard Farm) near "Wakley" (real name: Winkleigh) and "Dando Monachorum" (real name: Zeal Monachorum) at Fourways Cross in "Cornwall" (actually Devon), I can testify that Williams, who lived in that area too (north of Okehampton and Dartmoor) when he wrote his book, has managed to portray the area and its inhabitants stunningly well. He later spoke about Peckinpah pretty much as badly as Peckinpah spoke of him, but at the end of the day I suppose they were both just trying to shift the blame aimed at them by people who were too stuck in their political correctness to see that this was really a very fine work of art, in fact a masterpiece.
I actually dont think there are many insightfull observations. Everything they say should come pretty obvious to anyone who has seen the movie. This is a glorified summary of the movie. But i like when they go into the Peckinpah Playboy interview
Avary’s reaction to Hoffman’s character is absurd. “Emotional assault”? Sheesh. It echoes that of the dvd commentator, who fell for Peckinpah’s own bloviation that David is really the villain. (The same guy who tried to sell Major Dundee as “Moby Dick in the desert”).
Leaving out the violence, the situation in this film is not uncommon, particularly today. Modern sensibilities don’t line up with instinct and emotions. There’s talk about “equality” and but when men and women try to implement it logically it doesn’t work out because the assumption that men and women are the same is flawed. Women still want men to protect them, whether they realize it or not. But men can view a situation too logically, so if they believe in equality they may be standoffish because they believe the woman wants to look after herself. Men view situations globally, but women are more subtle and take everything on a case by case basis. Sometimes they want help, sometimes they don’t. They expect men to pick up on their needs, which is perfectly fair but many men don’t get that.
She’s Roger’s daughter. If you didn’t know, this is from the Video Archives Podcast, you definitely should look it up. To me, every episode is fantastic.
I disagree with this analysis of ‘’ Straw Dogs.’’ Consider when this film was made: during the Vietnam War. It was raging while back in the U.S. there was an undeclared civil war on the streets over that war. Dustin Hoffman’s character wants to flee the political chaos the war engendered and mistakenly thinks he can find a tranquil haven in Cornwall. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam and came back in the summer of 1968.
The only Tarantino movie I didn't like is "Inglorious Bastards". And that is due because of that I'm a WW2 history buff, so I'm more inclined to nit pick. So I'm more inclined to know mpre about Fascism than idiotic film critics. Fascism is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT!PERIOD! What does rape have to do with politics? It may have to do with certain politicians, but not political movements. Rape happens at ALL levels of EVERY society on this planet! Fascism is not responsible for rape, people are. Fascism has become a mindless buzzword for dissing anyone who challenges the current narrative. Read some books. Do some reasearch. Find out what Fascism and Communism and all forms of Socialism is. Thanks for letting me rant.
I can appreciate your passion, if a bit myopic. But you might want to dig a little deeper yourself. Fascism is not a form of Socialism. By understanding the inherent irony (or more accurately, the purposeful paradox) in the term "national socialism", you'll be on firmer ground.
The Cornish are a people on their own. But I think you over egged the pudding somewhat. Not many speak Cornish. And their culture is little divergent from that of the rural English.
Fans of Young Frankenstein should check out this movie and its first non-consensual sexual encounter, the one that BECOMES consensual. Why? Why do people laugh AT Madeline Kahn and WITH the Creature?
They weren't on a date but, to the extent Elizabeth expressed any objections, it was less than her rejection to Frederick trying to kiss her goodbye earlier.
Isn't this really a case of Mel Brooks becoming RUclips's resident comedian? Before RUclips/Internet Brooks couldn't get arrested for impersonating a comedian. In the 70s & 80s he was WalMart Woody Allen, the guy who made LCD (lowest common denominator) movies with a Catskills sensibility that was sneered at after 1965 and the rise of... Woody Allen. He made 2 good movies with questionable moments, Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein (Google the phrase "is there a rape scene in Young Frankenstein" & see what you get) but after those 2 it was a downward career trajectory. But Mel had a distinct genius for self-promotion, like Alfred Hitchcock and Stanley Kubrick. Mel is a genius-just ask him. And no one would remember him today had the internet and RUclips and Reactors not championed him. Woody Allen, though, has two bodies of work: before Annie Hall and after Annie Hall. AH rewrote the standard RomCom and won every Academy Award in sight. AH and the movies that followed rewrote comedy while providing actors with roles that won a lot of Oscars to people who had been around awhile, like Michael Caine and Martin Landau and Diane Weist and Diane Keaton and etc etc etc. He also jumpstarted the careers of a young Christopher Walken and Jeff Goldblum and Diane Keaton. He gave Paul Simon his first acting role and Hugh Jackman his best role to date. But RUclips is its own universe, where the movies that changed America between 1966 and 1978 are virtually unknown. The French Connection, Bonnie And Clyde, Deliverance, Blow-Up, The Graduate, Easy Rider, Midnight Cowboy, Patton, are all but forgotten by Reactors. And they were blockbusters that won beaucoup awards. And Silkwood and All The President's Men apparently don't fit into RUclips's algorithm. Cabaret, Etc. And Mel Brooks is YT's court jester while Stanley Kubrick is the Resident Genius and Hitchcock the Resident Suspense Director and John Carpenter the Resident Horror master. YT is rewiring history by rewriting the viewing habits of the mainstream American audience in the 60s 70s and 80s. You know, the movies people hired sitters and braved the company of Other People to actually go to a theater and buy a ticket and wait in line and fight for seats to SEE. YT would have us believe, for example, that most young Americans fought in Vietnam Except that the draft was so easy to beat that Vietnam was practically an all-volunteer war. But most people were untouched the war except how to beat out serving. As in how many professional athletes actually got drafted. ...And somehow Mel Brooks got anointed as the last word in comedy where in real life he hardly mattered at all after 1974. If you don't believe me about Young Frankenstein, ask a genuine survivor of rape to watch the movie with you. You'll get a big surprise. And Google that phrase.@roseymalino9855
Yes yes but Straw Dogs is still misogynistic and I don't care what anyone says. If the whole thing with the r*pe isn't then what is? There is always someone that defends their favourite media against all oncomers but whoever that is they're wrong on this one.
Ah, and here again, Quentin has to knock someone great (Kubrick, as always) to build something else up. And this time he hides behind some 1983 dilettante critic. Clockwork Orange is Clockwork Orange, Straw Dogs is Straw Dogs. They're both perfect, they're not competition with each other, they're completely different movies. That said, QT can fantasize all he wants but Kubrick wipes the floor with Peckinpah any day of the week. And as much as I love Straw Dogs, there's no comparison to Clockwork. Tarantino, really good director; the absolute worst person to take your cues from regarding history of movies! Even in this podcast, he's declaring there's only one moment of "cathartic violence" in the siege. Bull! There's two! And when Roger Avary brings it up, Tarantino quickly concedes but basically says it doesn't really count. Says who? lol. I don't need Straw Dogs explained to me by Quentin! Love the guy, and it's fun listening to him babble about movies but give me a break with the constant Kubrick bulls**t. You lost, Quentin! Kubrick's better! Welles is better! As the years go by and people don't get all the pop culture references, your work is going to mean even less!
People will be celebrating Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown forever. Even if he's made other great films (at least in my opinion), his legacy is set.
@@SquabbleBoxHQ I saw Reservoir Dogs the week it came out, I saw Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown the DAY they are out. Love 'em all. But art that relies on topical and pop culture references don't age well. I didn't say he wouldn't be remembered, but his work is going to lose all its potency. You think people in the future are going to care about the difference between McDonalds and Burger King? "Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids"? Give me a break. Kubrick works with timeless themes; Tarantino is a pop culture collage artist. Love him.....but he's overrated by dummies who like to stay in the shallow end of the pool. Seriously, give me.a break. And what REMAINS is the FACT that he SUCKS as a "cinefile", pseudo-movie critic-wannabe. And if you don't know that, what DO you know?
@@TTM9691 I'd say the majority of the references in these films are still understood after 30 years, which is a long time. I reckon it's a criticism you could level at a lot of things. Movies don't exist in a bubble. Everything "dates."
TIMESTAMPS
00:01 🎬 Quentin Tarantino discusses the history of home video distribution, including the role of Magnetic Home Video and its impact on the industry.
03:38 🎞 Quentin Tarantino talks about the consolidation of film libraries by major studios and how they sometimes replace original logos with their own on re-releases.
05:45 📼 Tarantino shares his enthusiasm for VHS tapes and discusses why certain films, like "Straw Dogs," are particularly suited for the VHS format.
09:43 💡 Tarantino discusses Sam Peckinpah's films and highlights "The Wild Bunch" and "Straw Dogs" as masterpieces, with a focus on the challenging and disturbing nature of "Straw Dogs."
17:23 🏴 Tarantino explains how the film adaptation of "Straw Dogs" transposes the story to Cornwall, emphasizing the unique culture and history of the Cornish people.
22:36 🎬 Quentin Tarantino discusses the complex dynamics in "Straw Dogs," highlighting how the female character's behavior contributes to the tension.
23:44 🎭 The discussion delves into the symbolism of the female character's connection with her dead father in the film.
25:16 🌟 The rape scene in "Straw Dogs" is analyzed for its complexity, as it transitions from horror to seduction.
28:00 💬 Reviews at the time expressed varying opinions on "Straw Dogs," with terms like "eroticizing rape" and "fascist celebration of violence" being used.
30:19 👀 Reasons behind the female character's decision not to tell her husband about the rape are explored, including feelings of guilt and his perceived ineffectuality.
36:37 🎭 The rape scene in "Straw Dogs" is discussed as a dramatic element rather than just a horrifying incident, with its complexity and impact on the narrative emphasized.
38:59 📽 Quentin Tarantino defends the portrayal of the female character's enjoyment during the rape scene, explaining it as a facet of sexual fantasy and domination.
43:38 🌟 Susan George's performance in "Straw Dogs" is praised for its vivacity and complexity, making her a standout character in the film.
45:41 🐱 Dustin Hoffman's character in "Straw Dogs" is portrayed as abusive and unsympathetic, even to a cat, setting the tone for his complex role.
58:33 📚 The title "Straw Dogs" has a Chinese origin, referring to objects discarded after use, symbolizing disposability. In the film, it may relate to the character Amy.
01:00:02 😡 Dustin Hoffman's character is unlikable and complex, making him a compelling yet contemptible protagonist.
01:03:04 🐾 The movie subtly uses the treatment of a cat to reflect the character's abusive tendencies, adding depth to the narrative.
01:05:39 🤔 There's ambiguity surrounding the cat's death, with hints that Amy suspects her husband's involvement, adding tension to the story.
01:07:14 🎬 The ambiguity in "Straw Dogs" is a strength, not a weakness, allowing for complex interpretations.
01:08:48 🎥 The effective use of slow-motion in depicting violence adds depth to the film.
01:09:32 🤯 Symbolism in the film, like the positioning of characters, offers layers of meaning.
01:10:28 🚶♂ The protagonist's failure to protect his wife and house symbolizes his inadequacy as a man.
01:11:51 🏠 The house in the film represents manhood and the family, with violence against it reflecting the protagonist's failures.
01:13:13 🎨 "Straw Dogs" defies clear moral distinctions, making it a complex and rewatchable piece of art.
01:14:59 🐀 The rat catcher's line symbolizes the chaos and moral ambiguity in the film.
01:15:12 👫 The ex-boyfriend's intervention during a rape scene adds further complexity to the characters.
01:18:29 💭 "Straw Dogs" may not have clear villains; cowardice and indecision are central themes causing chaos.
Sir, you are a god among men!
Its crazy how much Tarantino content there is on youtube of him just talking about a specific film or film in general and for over an hour, 2 hours and sometimes three and this Tarantino aint the same one from 25 years ago….he isnt manic. He’s thoughtful, unselfish and obviously enjoying himself. This is invaluable content for film lovers.
Very well said.
The algorithm gets a bad wrap for ruining people's brains and destroying society but I do like that it has sent me dozens of QT podcasts because I searched for it once in 2021.
I dunno I hear 'SNNFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF' at least once an hour same as it ever was.
He was always thoughtful and unselfish.Maybe you where just dumber.
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Cmon Quentin - you don't LOVE 'Bring me the Head of Alfredo Garcia'? NO? You don't love that? Nobody can touch the atmosphere! Peckinpah is a monster, QT, a total monster.
Totally agreed. One of my favorite movies. Warren Oates was immense. It does have a strong atmosphere.
Peckinpah - no doubt a monster of fountains of red paint to patch holes in the script.
Pat Garret & Billy The Kid is my favourite Peckinpah. My grandpa was a big western fan and would always watch his sunday matinee westerns when we were visiting and that was the first one I remember watching. Whenever I watch it again, I’m back at my grandpa’s house, half-watching the movie, half-watching my grandpa repeating the badass lines from the movie under his breath😅 Good times❤️
Gave it a few chances, but that one never worked for me.
Sounds so familiar, God I miss my grandad.
Jerry fielding's score is perfection!! The opening segue into the church bells! For Christ's sake is mastery.
Jerry Fielding's score for John Flynn's ''The Outfit'' is pretty cool tho....
You guys are great. Video Plus. Albuquerque 1985-87. Magnetic Home Video! Takes me back. I still own "If" on VHS. Great analysis of "Straw Dogs" a film I own but haven't watched in a long time. Love listening to you guys because you sound just like me and my film geek buddies- now or back 40 years ago. Finally, I'm with you Quentin: "Best of Times" all-time favorite football movie and the only one made for, about, and champions us third-stringers.
Closest thing left is Video Library in Santa Fe. Indie with a good selection. They parse out the vhs copies from time to time. I’ve picked up a few nostalgic gems but on some htf titles they know what they have
@@christophermarquez2310 Thanks, next time I'm up there, I'll check it out.
There were a handful of prints of the original 1977 version of "Star Wars" that were done in IB Tech, in England I believe, one of the last countries where the system was available. Lucas has one, and there's a few others in the hands of fans who have used them to create restorations of the original "Han shot first" version before Lucas started his meddling with the "Special Editions". These prints would have had the printing matrices made from a negative, however, rather than the film being shot with 3-strip cameras which was original way it was done.
Han didn't shoot first. He's the only one who shot
@@josesaldana9252First of one!
I couldn't disagree more with QT about Jerry Fielding's great score for Straw Dogs. Deservedly nominated for best score Oscar that year, and should have won. Fielding patterned the score after the style of Igor Stravinsky's "The Soldier''s Tale", at Peckinpah's request. Can't imagine SD with any other score. It's perfect.
Fielding did the Hogan's hero theme. Say no more
@@richlinlaw Good, catchy theme for a successful TV series. What's your point? --It's Hogan's Heroes, BTW.
Thanks man! Please upload Tarantino's review on the movie 'Demonoid' as well.
I always think that I know a lot about film until I hear these guys talk. Also, Quentin acknowledges that his pretentiousness is insufferable, first time that I've heard that. Respect.
I don't necessarily find him pretentious, moreso that his manic yammering hurts whatever point it is he's trying to make.
Ebert and others could not conceive that Dustin Hoffman’s intellectual character was the VILLAIN of the movie and therefore completely missed Peckinpah’s point.
Saying that Hoffman's character is THE villain in this film is ludicrous. I don't remember him terrorising anyone or committing rape, do you? He acted when pushed to the limit.
@@flapjackbickle645 He was the one who turned Amy into a straw dog.
"And it all leads to, I think, the greatest rape scene in cinema history."
😂😂😂
I watched Straw Dogs when I was very young. Maybe too young. The rape scene was one of the most disturbing movie scenes I have ever seen. Then again, I love that movie, and that makes me feel so guilty.
Unbelievable, and so fascinating.
This helped me understand this film better. I was disappointed by it on my first time watching because I just didn't like any of the characters. One thing that actually helped me appreciate it more was when they read the PB interview with Peckinpah.
I think it's funny that they went to weird lengths to coin 'Chekov's poachers' trap' and no one even noticed.
Can you explain this?
Quentin finally admits he likes 'A Clockwork Orange.' We did it, boys!!!!!!!!!!
"We did it boys!!!" is about first half of the movie.
wow this was great!
Bring Me the Head is Peckinpah's masterpiece.
No wild bunch straw dogs the getaway and pat garrett Billy the kid are better 😊
Alfredo Garcia is mid. Shut up hipster.
@@MikeBarratt-lk3gt No! Bring me the head first, Wild bunch a close second Getaway a masterpiece ...and Billy a mess...lol
@@paulcampbell1596 Pat Garrett Billy the kid a mess it's one of the best westerns of the 70s fool 🤣
@@MikeBarratt-lk3gt chill buckwheat!!!!🤣🤣
Cross of Iron is not overrated but is one of the last great WW2 films and beats anything that is release today from our Marvelized movie industry.
Yes. Saw it at 14 and it's always stuck with me. Tough film esp at 14.
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I saw it at the same age and had the same reaction.
@@raymondsmith6870 so you get it the same way i do...I still watch my blue ray from time to time and am still affected by it esp the last scenes where they are gunned down...its all burned into my mind a lot like the film little big man I saw when I was 8 which was too young for that movie.
Cross of Iron was my first exposure to R-rated movie violence. I was 11.... Traumatizing!
@@christophgunster254 exactly. me at 14 sid the same....esp the barn scene...
I think Straw Dogs is Sam's best movie in that violence has a place and is not just meaningless violence. Smaller movie and not so large scale like the Wild Bunch
Re: Peckinpah, WILD BUNCH, for sure. An indisputable masterpiece. I have certain problems with Straw Dogs, but I do like the film. The Getaway, a film easily underrated. And then I'd throw in Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. But I really hate Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid. Gave it a few chances. It just doesn't work.
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Great film and study of masculinity. I think I read the book but it was titled Straw Dogs and not Treacherous Farm. I'm bit confused if I read a novelisation or not, it was definitely a bit different to the film
I'll bet Quentin LOVES the AVCO embassy logo !
The tagline was great for the Straw Dogs one sheet:
"They F'ed around with Rain Man....
And Found Out."
Can’t get over Tarantino saying Ride the High Country is not a good film. I wish he would have expounded upon that a bit. I didn’t enjoy the Wild Bunch very much but Ride the High Country as far a Sunday afternoon western is an amazing film
Yeah, i think she on one hand doesn’t want to know how David would respond. Part is guilty but she probably felt ultimately him knowing would be an unknown she didnt think would help her. If that makes sense.
I've noticed a lot of what Quentin said about changing the logos of the movies at the beginning. And I would ask the guy at the video counter why did they do that.. Disney is notorious for that as well.
I think Dustin Hoffman was well cast in the film I could see John hert IN that roll as well as the caricature Dustin plays
Cross of iron is great..it s a anti war movie with characters who who knows nothing else apart making war
I.B. Technicolor print would be something that Lawrence of Arabia(one of the last technicolor films) was shot on..
This is definitely the version that shouldn’t have been remade. Brilliant film.
the other guy sounds like he'd like to give it 4 bags of popcorn
Bullsh*t! And that's Roger Avary....
Who is the other guy?
@@J_Phillz Roger Avary (co-story writer of Pulp Fiction and director of Killing Zoe).
The film would have been a great project for Jerry Goldsmith to get his composing chops around.
Whoops. Nope, not "If" (Paramount) but own "The Making of Star Wars" on Magnetic Home Video. A late '77 TV Special documentary about said title, narrated by none other than "Cannon" himself, William Conrad. A real time-capsule that one.
I’m new to this channel, who is Quentin talking to?
Hem. You misspelled the movie title.
Amy was right.
A key turning point is when David, on the shoot, is deserted by the men who took him out there. He shoots a bird and the penny drops that they think he's a gutless fool. He changes.
Iheard of strw dgs nvr seen that movie My respects
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The guy QT is talking to sounds very similar to Joe Rogaine
Is the other guy Rodger Avory?
I love this podcast. I just wish Roger got more chance to talk.
Good films reveal more about the critic in their review of the movie, than whatever they say about the film.
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Title of video says "Staw" Dogs when you meant "Straw" Dogs fyi
The cast of British character players is peerless. Sam was living in the UK at the time and must have seen them on TV or in older films. The village hall scene with Colin Welland is basically French new wave with all the jump cuts and atmosphere as Amy sees the rapists grinning. Top notch stuff and as QT says this violence is really ugly and as realistic as real violence always is. Amy is, incidentally, the toughest person in the film as many women in Sam's films are. Think of Santa Berger's character in Major Dundee.
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Back in the day ; a video store was judged by its "CULT" and "HORROR" section ! You know the video store was good if they had all the John Waters movies and all the Russ Meyer movies.
Many interesting and insightful observations and comments are presented in this review, and the film is an absolute classic in my mind, but I would like for a moment to defend the main male character, played by Dustin Hoffmann. He is a mathematics professor, obviously an introvert, who has been given a prestigious grant to write a book further developing his field of expertise. His young wife, with whom he already has a strained relationship, is acting as an attention-seeking nine-year-old (as mentioned repeatedly in this analysis), distracting and provoking him; a couple of times she is even directly obstructing his complicated and demanding work. And that's just the beginning of her little games, soon to backfire on her in the form of a double rape (the second part of it "entering by the back door" so to speak; incredibly you seem to overlook that one, boys!). Her motivation? Well, it seems to be a kind of revenge for his refusal to man up and get himself into a scrape with the same group of local baddies she is increasingly winding up in suggestive ways. You could say she's just bored and trying to kick up a bit of drama, or she could be acting according to her female nature (as Jordan Petersen might put it) by testing her mate to see if he is capable and willing to defend her in a state of pregnancy. But hang on: this is 1971, not the Stoneage. I don't think it would be too much to see some traces of a Lolitarian drama here, but to blame the male character for it alone and suggest that he is psychologically abusive towards his wife, well, such thinking can only suggest to me that someone among the audience has fallen for young Amy's dubious Lolitaesque charms to the point of losing his common sense.
The other person - in fact a REAL person - who is unreasonably hung out to dry repeatedly in this discussion, is Gordon M Williams, who wrote the novel "The Siege of Trencher's Farm" on which the movie is based. As someone who lived for a considerable amount of years around the corner from that very farm (real name: Trenchard Farm) near "Wakley" (real name: Winkleigh) and "Dando Monachorum" (real name: Zeal Monachorum) at Fourways Cross in "Cornwall" (actually Devon), I can testify that Williams, who lived in that area too (north of Okehampton and Dartmoor) when he wrote his book, has managed to portray the area and its inhabitants stunningly well. He later spoke about Peckinpah pretty much as badly as Peckinpah spoke of him, but at the end of the day I suppose they were both just trying to shift the blame aimed at them by people who were too stuck in their political correctness to see that this was really a very fine work of art, in fact a masterpiece.
I actually dont think there are many insightfull observations. Everything they say should come pretty obvious to anyone who has seen the movie. This is a glorified summary of the movie. But i like when they go into the Peckinpah Playboy interview
@@drainel9707 Brought back insightful memories of Linda Summers, I take it.
Who?
@@drainel9707 You know, August 1972. It wasn't the Sam Peckinpah interview that attracted you but: ruclips.net/video/MYyfXaRqldI/видео.html
Avary’s reaction to Hoffman’s character is absurd. “Emotional assault”? Sheesh. It echoes that of the dvd commentator, who fell for Peckinpah’s own bloviation that David is really the villain. (The same guy who tried to sell Major Dundee as “Moby Dick in the desert”).
Leaving out the violence, the situation in this film is not uncommon, particularly today. Modern sensibilities don’t line up with instinct and emotions. There’s talk about “equality” and but when men and women try to implement it logically it doesn’t work out because the assumption that men and women are the same is flawed. Women still want men to protect them, whether they realize it or not. But men can view a situation too logically, so if they believe in equality they may be standoffish because they believe the woman wants to look after herself. Men view situations globally, but women are more subtle and take everything on a case by case basis. Sometimes they want help, sometimes they don’t. They expect men to pick up on their needs, which is perfectly fair but many men don’t get that.
i could listen to avary and qt talk about movie forever. i don't know who the broad is, but she seems inpressive
She’s Roger’s daughter. If you didn’t know, this is from the Video Archives Podcast, you definitely should look it up. To me, every episode is fantastic.
She didn’t ask for it.
Cross of Iron is overrated. I'd like to hear Tarantino do a deep dive into this one, because it would be really interesting.
I can’t see you
Staw Dogs?
I watch these for the love of cinema and films. But good grief he's exhausting to listen to at times.
I disagree with this analysis of ‘’ Straw Dogs.’’ Consider when this film was made: during the Vietnam War. It was raging while back in the U.S. there was an undeclared civil war on the streets over that war. Dustin Hoffman’s character wants to flee the political chaos the war engendered and mistakenly thinks he can find a tranquil haven in Cornwall. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam and came back in the summer of 1968.
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Victim blaming.
...is 2020s psycho-babble.
That's a very shallow view of this. Things are rarely ever that black and white, especially in art.
Staw lol
The only Tarantino movie I didn't like is "Inglorious Bastards". And that is due because of that I'm a WW2 history buff, so I'm more inclined to nit pick. So I'm more inclined to know mpre about Fascism than idiotic film critics. Fascism is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT!PERIOD! What does rape have to do with politics? It may have to do with certain politicians, but not political movements. Rape happens at ALL levels of EVERY society on this planet! Fascism is not responsible for rape, people are. Fascism has become a mindless buzzword for dissing anyone who challenges the current narrative. Read some books. Do some reasearch. Find out what Fascism and Communism and all forms of Socialism is. Thanks for letting me rant.
I can appreciate your passion, if a bit myopic. But you might want to dig a little deeper yourself. Fascism is not a form of Socialism. By understanding the inherent irony (or more accurately, the purposeful paradox) in the term "national socialism", you'll be on firmer ground.
The Cornish are a people on their own. But I think you over egged the pudding somewhat. Not many speak Cornish. And their culture is little divergent from that of the rural English.
Fans of Young Frankenstein should check out this movie and its first non-consensual sexual encounter, the one that BECOMES consensual. Why?
Why do people laugh AT Madeline Kahn and WITH the Creature?
They weren't on a date but, to the extent Elizabeth expressed any objections, it was less than her rejection to Frederick trying to kiss her goodbye earlier.
Isn't this really a case of Mel Brooks becoming RUclips's resident comedian? Before RUclips/Internet Brooks couldn't get arrested for impersonating a comedian. In the 70s & 80s he was WalMart Woody Allen, the guy who made LCD (lowest common denominator) movies with a Catskills sensibility that was sneered at after 1965 and the rise of... Woody Allen. He made 2 good movies with questionable moments, Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein (Google the phrase "is there a rape scene in Young Frankenstein" & see what you get) but after those 2 it was a downward career trajectory. But Mel had a distinct genius for self-promotion, like Alfred Hitchcock and Stanley Kubrick. Mel is a genius-just ask him. And no one would remember him today had the internet and RUclips and Reactors not championed him. Woody Allen, though, has two bodies of work: before Annie Hall and after Annie Hall. AH rewrote the standard RomCom and won every Academy Award in sight. AH and the movies that followed rewrote comedy while providing actors with roles that won a lot of Oscars to people who had been around awhile, like Michael Caine and Martin Landau and Diane Weist and Diane Keaton and etc etc etc. He also jumpstarted the careers of a young Christopher Walken and Jeff Goldblum and Diane Keaton. He gave Paul Simon his first acting role and Hugh Jackman his best role to date. But RUclips is its own universe, where the movies that changed America between 1966 and 1978 are virtually unknown. The French Connection, Bonnie And Clyde, Deliverance, Blow-Up, The Graduate, Easy Rider, Midnight Cowboy, Patton, are all but forgotten by Reactors. And they were blockbusters that won beaucoup awards. And Silkwood and All The President's Men apparently don't fit into RUclips's algorithm. Cabaret, Etc. And Mel Brooks is YT's court jester while Stanley Kubrick is the Resident Genius and Hitchcock the Resident Suspense Director and John Carpenter the Resident Horror master. YT is rewiring history by rewriting the viewing habits of the mainstream American audience in the 60s 70s and 80s. You know, the movies people hired sitters and braved the company of Other People to actually go to a theater and buy a ticket and wait in line and fight for seats to SEE. YT would have us believe, for example, that most young Americans fought in Vietnam Except that the draft was so easy to beat that Vietnam was practically an all-volunteer war. But most people were untouched the war except how to beat out serving. As in how many professional athletes actually got drafted. ...And somehow Mel Brooks got anointed as the last word in comedy where in real life he hardly mattered at all after 1974. If you don't believe me about Young Frankenstein, ask a genuine survivor of rape to watch the movie with you. You'll get a big surprise. And Google that phrase.@roseymalino9855
Yes yes but Straw Dogs is still misogynistic and I don't care what anyone says. If the whole thing with the r*pe isn't then what is? There is always someone that defends their favourite media against all oncomers but whoever that is they're wrong on this one.
The interviewer mentions how awful the verbal abuse the wife gets from her husband is and QT has nothing to say because he is a misogynist.
If you think that, you've never seen a Tarantino film.
@@jodi2847 Misogynist may be a bit strong, but he most certainly has a complicated worldview regarding womanhood, as did Sam.
Ah, and here again, Quentin has to knock someone great (Kubrick, as always) to build something else up. And this time he hides behind some 1983 dilettante critic. Clockwork Orange is Clockwork Orange, Straw Dogs is Straw Dogs. They're both perfect, they're not competition with each other, they're completely different movies. That said, QT can fantasize all he wants but Kubrick wipes the floor with Peckinpah any day of the week. And as much as I love Straw Dogs, there's no comparison to Clockwork. Tarantino, really good director; the absolute worst person to take your cues from regarding history of movies! Even in this podcast, he's declaring there's only one moment of "cathartic violence" in the siege. Bull! There's two! And when Roger Avary brings it up, Tarantino quickly concedes but basically says it doesn't really count. Says who? lol. I don't need Straw Dogs explained to me by Quentin! Love the guy, and it's fun listening to him babble about movies but give me a break with the constant Kubrick bulls**t. You lost, Quentin! Kubrick's better! Welles is better! As the years go by and people don't get all the pop culture references, your work is going to mean even less!
People will be celebrating Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown forever. Even if he's made other great films (at least in my opinion), his legacy is set.
@@SquabbleBoxHQ I saw Reservoir Dogs the week it came out, I saw Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown the DAY they are out. Love 'em all. But art that relies on topical and pop culture references don't age well. I didn't say he wouldn't be remembered, but his work is going to lose all its potency. You think people in the future are going to care about the difference between McDonalds and Burger King? "Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids"? Give me a break. Kubrick works with timeless themes; Tarantino is a pop culture collage artist. Love him.....but he's overrated by dummies who like to stay in the shallow end of the pool. Seriously, give me.a break. And what REMAINS is the FACT that he SUCKS as a "cinefile", pseudo-movie critic-wannabe. And if you don't know that, what DO you know?
@@TTM9691 I'd say the majority of the references in these films are still understood after 30 years, which is a long time. I reckon it's a criticism you could level at a lot of things. Movies don't exist in a bubble. Everything "dates."
Unfortunately, it's tough to watch because all of the main characters are thoroughly unlikable. There is no one to root for.
StrawDogs is Sam Peckinpah’s best movie,,,Jr.Bonner was a bore
That was tasteless and disgusting they shouldn’t have said that
This movie stunk.
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Stunk? Why? State reasons for your opinion. Otherwise, your comment is meaningless.
stunk ? At the time?
So it does stink anymore?
What stink ?
the rape
the violence
the story
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If you are unable to articulate the "why", then your "opinion" is invalid.
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"the greatest rape scene in the history of cinema". Huh???!!
Right up there with Siberian Film
Overrated film.
Truth is, women avoid accountability at all costs.
Did you upvote yourself, you im-be-ci-le!?
You ready to talk yet, Ms. A.B?
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