Hey everybody! In the meantime, I created my own in-depth, no-nonsense hiking guide of the MassIV Trail! You can find it here: floordenil.com/en/product/hiking-guide-massiv-trail-digital/ Have a looooovely trip, everybody 🌹
Finished my MassIV Trail attempt about a week ago, had to stop at Sognefjellshytta because of very bad weather (heard of "Hans"? Worst flooding in 25 years,...) so I could't do the last 2 legs Nordaleseter and Sota Saeter. Your tips were helpful and I even used the small maps of your book as a tiny backup in case my phone dies. Thank you for the inspiration, you , Mikkel Mandrup and Grei Fi made me do that trail, it's my favorite hike so far! I agree, starting in Haukeliseter and doing it northbound is the way to do it : ) Cheers, Søren.
Thanks for sharing your guidebook with us, I plan to do the MassIV Trail this summer, very helpful! Also good to know, that you did it during an exceptionally cold summer, I was already wondering about what clothes to bring,...also watched the clip of Mikkel Mandrup about the trail, now I've got a pretty good picture of what to bring,...Cheers!
Very entertaining and informative as always Floor! For people that are looking for European UL-gear like tents and backpacks, here are some names to look up: Hyberg, Bonfus, Liteway (Ukranian company!!). And for some of the best sleeping bags out there: Cumulus!
Hi Floor! Thank you for your videos, they are always a pleasure to watch! Regarding the gloves part, I also had a hard time finding reliable waterproof gloves in the past. I used the Showa Temres 281 on the Kungsleden a few years ago and they worked impressively well. Never had wet hands with them, and they did withstood heavy downpours. The 282 version is supposedly warmer (I have not tried them though, so I can't say how much), so they might be a good alternative for colder climates. They're not too hard to find in Europe and they aren't too expensive either. Cheers from Bxl!
Nice! This is what I do: Wet trail runners with wool socks. No experienced hiker I have spoken with will wear Gore tex, so 100% agree on that. Imo, I've never seen the point of down jackets -- they are too fragile and the use cases are too narrow. If you have a sleeping bag that is graded for the temperature you are sleeping in, then lifehack: boil water, pour into one of the drinking bottles and put it inside the sleeping bag between the legs before going to sleep. Thin merino wool underwear is the most efficient and light piece of gear that you bring with you. I honestly bring only one per 3 days ( I can stretch it even furter some times). I've never brought thermal pants/sweathers. You can save a lot if weight if you only use one pair of pants and one pair of long wool underpants. Wax the pants to make it resistant to water, but use the wool pants if there is a lot of rain and you have to keep warm. I never bring rain pants, but I invest a lot of weight into a long oil treated rain jacket that 100% keeps water from going either way through the fabric, but has flaps on the back that maybe does release some moisture. This setup with no rain pants is probably the most risky part of how I pack (I have experienced days where I was frozen to the bone with this gear, one of them in the cold 2022 summer, but as long as I am moving, eating and there is a hut close enough, which there always is, I have managed). I may be a bit special in terms of being able to take a lot of cold, though. The other jacket I bring is a light weight wind resistant one that release moisture. So I just switch between these when the weather changes. Three different thicknesses of wool sweaters to adjust for temperature. The thick one is mostly for keeping warm in an emergency. Wool mittens. I dont bring a hat, but I make the long wool neck into a hat by putting it on as a headband, twisting the remaining fabric top part and then pulling it down over itself. edit: finished the massiv trail in 12 days with 4 kg backpack. pictures at imgur dot com forward slash a forward slash BvAQFs9
Jaaaaa weer een leuke video! 😍Heb gelijk weer zin om te gaan lopen. Dank dat je hier tijd voor neemt! Oh en ik vind je kapsel super tof, laat anderen maar kletsen. Groetjes uit NL! 🇳🇱
Hi Floor! Nog een tip voor schuivende slaapmatjes: ik neem altijd een ultralicht 3 mm foam matje mee (Gram-counter gear Featherweight Evazote Foam Mat) dat ik onder mijn sleeping pad leg waardoor die niet verschuift. En overdag doet de mat opgevouwen dienst als sitpad, en/of als ruggesteun in mijn rugzak. Plus ze ook nog voor een extra graadje warmte onder de sleeping pad 👍 Love de video’s btw! Kwam ze een paar jaar geleden tegen toen ik info zocht over de Kungsleden (die ik deze zomer ga wandelen!). Thanks daarvoor!! Laatste tip voor als je je nog geen plannen hebt voor een volgende hike: Laugavegur, IJsland. Vorig jaar gewandeld en is was by far het mooiste stukje planeet dat er bestaat 🥰 Echt. Maar echt! Mindblowing. Ciao en misschien spring ik wel es binnen bij Ana Attento voor een koffie (woon in Bxl) 👋☕
I wish you many fantastic hikes! I hope your channel continues to grow!🌻 The thing about hiking in trail runners is popular with the ultralight community, but I've tested hiking with waterproof shoes, not boots, cheap ones from Decathlon, and they kept my feet dry, even while hiking in mushy ground, at altitude, in Kyrgyzstan. And they also dry pretty fast, because once I entered a river with them and decided to only stop to sleep when they were dry. It was ok. You have a rain jacket, rain pants, but your feet have no protection against the rain. It may have played a role in making you feel so cold at night. You were perhaps suffering from exposure. Have you considered using a bidet instead of toilet paper? You can make a small hole on a simple water bottle lid and spray water to clean after... well, after. And switch lids after the deed. Same bottle for drinking and bidet, because the bottle doesn't contact you. Toilet paper is a plague on trails and don't belong in nature. If you decide to switch to a bidet, use it at home before going on a hike, to get used to it. And a pee rag. Anything to avoid toilet paper. If you do go for toilet paper, may I suggest you take it back with you to dispose of it in a city, in case you aren't doing it yet?
If you have matches as backup, keep them in ziplock bag. So the air humidity dont ruin them. If matches got too humid. Keep them under your beanie(on top of your head) to dry them out.
Oh shit, I missed the Massiv trail video! Bedankt Floor! Watch out for thin wollen (merino) gloves. I've not found them to be super fantastic... maybe as liners for more durable gloves. An ice-climber friend of mine swears by the Ejendals Tegera gloves, waterproof, warm, and durable. I've yet to try them out, though.
Add some strips of silicone or shoe goo under the mat to keep it from slipping. For high quality quilts in Europe i would check out Cumulus. Nalgene bottle with hot water is a lifesaver on cold nights, just put it inside a dry bag to protect yourself and your quilt/bag from potential leakage - remember to open the bottle once in a while to release built up pressure (do NOT use a normal plastic bottle for this or you will find out why the hard way). I also cannot stress the impact of wool boxers / underwear - it makes a huge difference and doesn't stink as much (anti microbial).
Nice gear list! I've always wanted to try an Atom Pack. Like you I also have to layer up like crazy when sleeping. I'm convinced those naked sleepers are warmed by their delusions. A tip for you slippy thermarest, some people attach sticky foam pads on the bottom, stuff that you would stick on furniture legs to stop is starching the floor. A few of these will make it a little less slippery. Also any book recommendations? haha
Love your videos! You should do the Nordkalloteden next. Last year I followed part of it from Kilpisjärvi Finland to Abisko and then the Kungsleden to Kvikkjok. Im deciding what to do this year and the Massiv or some variation is high on my list. Do you get the feeling that your far from everything on the massiv that you do up north? Can you send a food package ahead? Im also considering going into Sarek from Kvikkjok and then taking the Nordkalloteden and Padjelanta to Singi and onto Kebenkeise and Nikkaluotka. So many options but i think the best mtn scenery in Norway is accessed via the massiv. Plus its not too far from Bergen and Lofoten. Did you see the Aurora on the massiv? Were there self service huts on the trail?
Hey Floor, great video as usual :) I have a question for you: where did you buy the Duplex? I only found a website that has it in Europe, but it is twice as expensive as the original price :(
Hey! I bought it straight from Zpacks, but had to pay for crazy import costs so it’s not really recommended actually… I know Bonfus has a very similar tent, haven’t tries it out yet, but it’s a European brand that’s apparently very good, so it might just be the one :)!
Hey Floor. I've been following your channel since watching your Kungsleden trail video. Immediately subscribed because your personality gives your videos flare (most hiking videos in general are kinda boring imo). A quick question. I've been eyeing Atom+ pack and can't decide on 40L or 50L. Weight wise it's only 30 gram difference. Just want to know if i could carry on 50L one on an airplane?
Heyhey! Aaawwww, thank you for your kind words :). I would say it’s possible to take a 50L-pack on an airplane as you can make it as small as a 40L-pack because of the roll-top-system. So if you put less stuff in your pack (and maybe carry that in a seperate bag on the plane), you can roll that top a lot more which makes your pack smaller :).
Thank YOU for the reply. I'm gonna buy 50L one as soon it's in stock. We don't have much established trail here in Mongolia but it'll be most useful for my south east Asian trip. And some overnight hikes when it's not -30°C here. I know you have life and not full time youtuber but please never stop posting videos. And say hi to Emil :)
Great video. Another thing people can do with their biodegradable soap, is fill a container, ziplock bag full of water, walk a good distance away from the body of water, then do your business.
@@floordenil Gaaf dat je reageert Floor. Leuk. Ik heb al je video's gekeken. Maar -7 en nog steeds koud. Afgelopen september was ik hiken in Noorwegen met een slaapzak met comfort 2 graden. Ik had het ook best koud. Heb nu een slaapzak met comfort -9 gekocht. Hopelijk helpt dat.
Hoeveel weegt het statief precies als ik vragen mag? Ziet er super interessant uit 😊 Mijn Atom packs wordt deze week verstuurd 🥳 Ben zo benieuwd!!! Hoor er alleen maar goede dingen over.
@@floordenil yeah! as long as you are happy with the haircut that's all that matters! but it doesn't suit your face shape at all!! again love the gear setup!
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Hey everybody! In the meantime, I created my own in-depth, no-nonsense hiking guide of the MassIV Trail! You can find it here: floordenil.com/en/product/hiking-guide-massiv-trail-digital/
Have a looooovely trip, everybody 🌹
Good to see you again, Floor!
The most enthusiastic gear list ever! Great to watch.
Finished my MassIV Trail attempt about a week ago, had to stop at Sognefjellshytta because of very bad weather (heard of "Hans"? Worst flooding in 25 years,...) so I could't do the last 2 legs Nordaleseter and Sota Saeter. Your tips were helpful and I even used the small maps of your book as a tiny backup in case my phone dies. Thank you for the inspiration, you , Mikkel Mandrup and Grei Fi made me do that trail, it's my favorite hike so far! I agree, starting in Haukeliseter and doing it northbound is the way to do it : ) Cheers, Søren.
Hello from France ! Très très content de vous revoir. Thanks for the english version.
So happy you are back making videos :) Always enjoyed them and a great inspiration too!
Thanks for sharing your guidebook with us, I plan to do the MassIV Trail this summer, very helpful! Also good to know, that you did it during an exceptionally cold summer, I was already wondering about what clothes to bring,...also watched the clip of Mikkel Mandrup about the trail, now I've got a pretty good picture of what to bring,...Cheers!
Very entertaining and informative as always Floor!
For people that are looking for European UL-gear like tents and backpacks, here are some names to look up: Hyberg, Bonfus, Liteway (Ukranian company!!). And for some of the best sleeping bags out there: Cumulus!
Hi Floor! Thank you for your videos, they are always a pleasure to watch! Regarding the gloves part, I also had a hard time finding reliable waterproof gloves in the past. I used the Showa Temres 281 on the Kungsleden a few years ago and they worked impressively well. Never had wet hands with them, and they did withstood heavy downpours. The 282 version is supposedly warmer (I have not tried them though, so I can't say how much), so they might be a good alternative for colder climates. They're not too hard to find in Europe and they aren't too expensive either. Cheers from Bxl!
Oh great, I'll look into them. Thanks! Cheers back from St Gilles :)
Nice! This is what I do: Wet trail runners with wool socks. No experienced hiker I have spoken with will wear Gore tex, so 100% agree on that. Imo, I've never seen the point of down jackets -- they are too fragile and the use cases are too narrow. If you have a sleeping bag that is graded for the temperature you are sleeping in, then lifehack: boil water, pour into one of the drinking bottles and put it inside the sleeping bag between the legs before going to sleep. Thin merino wool underwear is the most efficient and light piece of gear that you bring with you. I honestly bring only one per 3 days ( I can stretch it even furter some times). I've never brought thermal pants/sweathers. You can save a lot if weight if you only use one pair of pants and one pair of long wool underpants. Wax the pants to make it resistant to water, but use the wool pants if there is a lot of rain and you have to keep warm. I never bring rain pants, but I invest a lot of weight into a long oil treated rain jacket that 100% keeps water from going either way through the fabric, but has flaps on the back that maybe does release some moisture. This setup with no rain pants is probably the most risky part of how I pack (I have experienced days where I was frozen to the bone with this gear, one of them in the cold 2022 summer, but as long as I am moving, eating and there is a hut close enough, which there always is, I have managed). I may be a bit special in terms of being able to take a lot of cold, though. The other jacket I bring is a light weight wind resistant one that release moisture. So I just switch between these when the weather changes. Three different thicknesses of wool sweaters to adjust for temperature. The thick one is mostly for keeping warm in an emergency. Wool mittens. I dont bring a hat, but I make the long wool neck into a hat by putting it on as a headband, twisting the remaining fabric top part and then pulling it down over itself.
edit: finished the massiv trail in 12 days with 4 kg backpack. pictures at imgur dot com forward slash a forward slash BvAQFs9
Yes!!!! Welcome back!! So good to have another video! Thank you :)
The casual 2AM upload ^^ very interesting, thanks for sharing :)
Hahaha, heading to bed now, there’s work tomorrow 🥴
Jaaaaa weer een leuke video! 😍Heb gelijk weer zin om te gaan lopen. Dank dat je hier tijd voor neemt! Oh en ik vind je kapsel super tof, laat anderen maar kletsen. Groetjes uit NL! 🇳🇱
I love your videos! Perfect combination between technical advice and fun to watch! Create more videos! Be a youtuber! You are good at it!
Best hiking channel around
Hi Floor! Nog een tip voor schuivende slaapmatjes: ik neem altijd een ultralicht 3 mm foam matje mee (Gram-counter gear Featherweight Evazote Foam Mat) dat ik onder mijn sleeping pad leg waardoor die niet verschuift. En overdag doet de mat opgevouwen dienst als sitpad, en/of als ruggesteun in mijn rugzak. Plus ze ook nog voor een extra graadje warmte onder de sleeping pad 👍
Love de video’s btw! Kwam ze een paar jaar geleden tegen toen ik info zocht over de Kungsleden (die ik deze zomer ga wandelen!). Thanks daarvoor!! Laatste tip voor als je je nog geen plannen hebt voor een volgende hike: Laugavegur, IJsland. Vorig jaar gewandeld en is was by far het mooiste stukje planeet dat er bestaat 🥰 Echt. Maar echt! Mindblowing.
Ciao en misschien spring ik wel es binnen bij Ana Attento voor een koffie (woon in Bxl) 👋☕
I wish you many fantastic hikes! I hope your channel continues to grow!🌻
The thing about hiking in trail runners is popular with the ultralight community, but I've tested hiking with waterproof shoes, not boots, cheap ones from Decathlon, and they kept my feet dry, even while hiking in mushy ground, at altitude, in Kyrgyzstan. And they also dry pretty fast, because once I entered a river with them and decided to only stop to sleep when they were dry. It was ok.
You have a rain jacket, rain pants, but your feet have no protection against the rain. It may have played a role in making you feel so cold at night. You were perhaps suffering from exposure.
Have you considered using a bidet instead of toilet paper? You can make a small hole on a simple water bottle lid and spray water to clean after... well, after. And switch lids after the deed. Same bottle for drinking and bidet, because the bottle doesn't contact you. Toilet paper is a plague on trails and don't belong in nature. If you decide to switch to a bidet, use it at home before going on a hike, to get used to it. And a pee rag. Anything to avoid toilet paper. If you do go for toilet paper, may I suggest you take it back with you to dispose of it in a city, in case you aren't doing it yet?
Hi Floor!
I'm glad you're still hiking! :)
Right on!! Thank you!!! I've been thinking my next Norway would be the Kungsleden, but now it might be The Massiv. Didn't know about it! Awesome. :-)
Thank you so much! Can’t wait for the tips vidéo !
If you have matches as backup, keep them in ziplock bag. So the air humidity dont ruin them.
If matches got too humid. Keep them under your beanie(on top of your head) to dry them out.
Oh shit, I missed the Massiv trail video! Bedankt Floor!
Watch out for thin wollen (merino) gloves. I've not found them to be super fantastic... maybe as liners for more durable gloves. An ice-climber friend of mine swears by the Ejendals Tegera gloves, waterproof, warm, and durable. I've yet to try them out, though.
Add some strips of silicone or shoe goo under the mat to keep it from slipping. For high quality quilts in Europe i would check out Cumulus. Nalgene bottle with hot water is a lifesaver on cold nights, just put it inside a dry bag to protect yourself and your quilt/bag from potential leakage - remember to open the bottle once in a while to release built up pressure (do NOT use a normal plastic bottle for this or you will find out why the hard way). I also cannot stress the impact of wool boxers / underwear - it makes a huge difference and doesn't stink as much (anti microbial).
These tips are GOLD!! Thank you so much, I’ll definitely implement some of these :)
Thanks for doing your thing ✌🏻
Very informative video! Your English is superb btw - better than most native English (no exaggeration!)
I really like your videos, hope you start to make them more frequently! Good tips and fun, as always!
Nice gear list! I've always wanted to try an Atom Pack.
Like you I also have to layer up like crazy when sleeping. I'm convinced those naked sleepers are warmed by their delusions.
A tip for you slippy thermarest, some people attach sticky foam pads on the bottom, stuff that you would stick on furniture legs to stop is starching the floor. A few of these will make it a little less slippery.
Also any book recommendations? haha
You're the best!!!! Big fan ❤
Your "pilea peperomioides" is very happy , great board games :) and videos . tks
Love your videos! You should do the Nordkalloteden next. Last year I followed part of it from Kilpisjärvi Finland to Abisko and then the Kungsleden to Kvikkjok. Im deciding what to do this year and the Massiv or some variation is high on my list. Do you get the feeling that your far from everything on the massiv that you do up north? Can you send a food package ahead? Im also considering going into Sarek from Kvikkjok and then taking the Nordkalloteden and Padjelanta to Singi and onto Kebenkeise and Nikkaluotka. So many options but i think the best mtn scenery in Norway is accessed via the massiv. Plus its not too far from Bergen and Lofoten. Did you see the Aurora on the massiv? Were there self service huts on the trail?
Hey Floor, great video as usual :) I have a question for you: where did you buy the Duplex? I only found a website that has it in Europe, but it is twice as expensive as the original price :(
Hey! I bought it straight from Zpacks, but had to pay for crazy import costs so it’s not really recommended actually… I know Bonfus has a very similar tent, haven’t tries it out yet, but it’s a European brand that’s apparently very good, so it might just be the one :)!
@@floordenil alright, I’ll take a look at it, thank you so much!
27:05 Put some silicon dots on your tent bathtub and your sleeping pad stays put
Hey Floor. I've been following your channel since watching your Kungsleden trail video. Immediately subscribed because your personality gives your videos flare (most hiking videos in general are kinda boring imo).
A quick question. I've been eyeing Atom+ pack and can't decide on 40L or 50L. Weight wise it's only 30 gram difference. Just want to know if i could carry on 50L one on an airplane?
Heyhey! Aaawwww, thank you for your kind words :). I would say it’s possible to take a 50L-pack on an airplane as you can make it as small as a 40L-pack because of the roll-top-system. So if you put less stuff in your pack (and maybe carry that in a seperate bag on the plane), you can roll that top a lot more which makes your pack smaller :).
Thank YOU for the reply. I'm gonna buy 50L one as soon it's in stock. We don't have much established trail here in Mongolia but it'll be most useful for my south east Asian trip. And some overnight hikes when it's not -30°C here.
I know you have life and not full time youtuber but please never stop posting videos. And say hi to Emil :)
How many gas canisters would you have used?
Great video.
Another thing people can do with their biodegradable soap, is fill a container, ziplock bag full of water, walk a good distance away from the body of water, then do your business.
Hey Floor, I adore your hiking videos! Any special reason why you didnt film in 4k?
Leuke video’s. Vraagje, doe je alle uitstekende artikelen in je rugzak voor het vliegtuig of laat je je rugzak inseaken?
Ohh yea, I can reccomend menstruation cup soo much. It made the hiking a lot comfortable and easy :)
U R the best!!!!
Beste Floor, weer een mooie video. Welke temperatuur rating heeft je quilt?
Hey Michael! Ik heb de warmste genomen, weet niet vanbuiten hoeveel precies, al denk ik dat hij comforttemperatuur -7°C heeft denk ik.
@@floordenil Gaaf dat je reageert Floor. Leuk. Ik heb al je video's gekeken. Maar -7 en nog steeds koud. Afgelopen september was ik hiken in Noorwegen met een slaapzak met comfort 2 graden. Ik had het ook best koud. Heb nu een slaapzak met comfort -9 gekocht. Hopelijk helpt dat.
@@michaelparsival233 Yes! Een sleeping bag liner kan dus ook helpen als je nog steeds koud hebt. En minstens even belangrijk: een warm matje!
I think you forgot a clothing item you had on the trail, a red Cotopaxi Fleece as extra layer, right?
Wow, totally!! It was indeed a red (orange-ish) Cotopaxi-fleece. Used it to hike in and as a pillow at night!
Finally! ♡♡
That is too heavy for a long trail, (500 miles+), but fine if doing a few days hiking.
Would you have the backpack with solid back pocket and not mesh if you could choose?
Mesh is lighter and stretches so stuff doesn't fall out. You can also put stuff in it to let it dry.
i literally dont understand how you get your pack so light. even when i try hard to reduce weight i still end up carrying about 20kg
With food and water? Without a sleeping tent, I often carry only 5,5 kg
Hoeveel weegt het statief precies als ik vragen mag?
Ziet er super interessant uit 😊
Mijn Atom packs wordt deze week verstuurd 🥳 Ben zo benieuwd!!! Hoor er alleen maar goede dingen over.
How’s everything going?. mr, fantastic uupload. peace out. 🤘
Love u ahahaha
Hi, you are so cool, bye
Really unfortunate hairstyle choice. Perfect example of finding a hair shape for your face shape. Nice gear tho 👌🏻
Man, do you realize I actually read these comments??
@@floordenil yeah! as long as you are happy with the haircut that's all that matters! but it doesn't suit your face shape at all!! again love the gear setup!
What a shite comment. I think it suits her very well.
If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. Kids even know that rule. Floor, love your hair! Looks super healthy
Really unfortunate phrasing choice. Perfect example of being a misogynist douchebag in the comment section. Nice try tho! 👌🏼