1:32:08 The very first teaser for Red Dead Redemption At this time, it was called Red Dead Revolver 2, and the name of the project was Old West Project. 5 year later....and the masterpiece Red Dead Redemption is born.
So crazy watching this in 2013... the quality of these press conferences is leaps and bounds worse than now.. But I do prefer how in depth the explaination was here!
+Pokesanity I have CECHA01 Launch Model. The best PS3. Change the thermal paste under the IHS too, and change the shit original PSU and now so damn silent. :)
Yeah me too, I got a UK PS3 60GB launch model. Sony screwed our model over, we did not have the EE processor, just the PS2 graphics chip. So our PS3's could only do about 80% or so games perfectly but some great games like Ratchet and Clank would not run well at all. Our PS3 60GB would later become the USA's PS3 80GB. If you dont mind me asking, what PSU did you use?
APS-227 (EU PSU) I live in Hungary, so i know that CECHCXX model... :) Now my PS3 work with CFW, because the default fan speed is = Harakiri Mode. Too slow for the PS3. I Run Crysis on PS3, and the degress was 76 for the CPU and 80 for the GPU. I set manual fan spedd (50%), and the temperature look like this: CPU 62, GPU 65. I think i saved this PS3. :)
Hopefully with the PS5 next year they start resurrecting these long lost games like Agent, Killing Day, Eight Days, Code Arms Assault and The Getaway 3. Make it happen Sony!
The old iteration of the store before this new one ran perfect and was very smooth. When they updated it to match the ps4 version is when it got sucky.
Crazy how all these years later we know what was true and what was hype. PS3 memory architecture: nightmare. RSX: hype (360 GPU outperformed RSX) Cell: fantastic idea poorly implemented, but actually true.
+Justin Goretoy PS3 was a Frankenstein's monster of a sorts. The RSX was added when Sony realized that the Cell BE was inadequate for the entire graphics pipeline. The 256 MB of XDR simply wasn't enough to get the most out of the system, and going 512 MB of XDR was just too expensive. GDDR3 was cheaper and as direct access VRAM for the GPU and it's ROPs, it would be lower latency and cheaper than having more XDR. Jesus Christ Sony you dun goof'd
***** To a fair degree, absolutely, but developers are still pushing the PS4 and Xbone too hard. Also, some people were disappointed that both consoles, even the PS4, are not as powerful as it should've been. That will be fixed with the rumored mid-gen refreshes like PS4 Neo, but the rumored increase in x86 core clock speeds won't be enough by a long shot to get 60 FPS for every game out there.
Thanks for posting this. This is still my favorite Sony e3 conference. I love tech demos and I hope there's a ton of tech demos when they reveal the PS4. Most people will probably hate it though.
Really impressed by how the console is still able to push the graphics, and power of the box. Now almost a decade later with the ps4, who knows how far it'll go this time around.
But the ps4 will amazing in front of you, when u see the angled design, and the blue line light up, will look amazing , probably even better when standing up.
This is hilarious. They spent half of their press conference talking about a system they knew was never going to launch in spring 2006, it was always Fall of 2006. They did this to try and dull the momentum the 360 had by launching in 05.
I wish that, before the PS4 will be anounced, some game developer comes up with a game that actually uses the full capacity of the PS3 hardware. Most games now still don't use the SPE's just because developers are too lazy to learn how to program a game around the architecture of the PS3. If games would have been made to work properly on the PS3, it would have become clear pretty fast that the Xbox 360 isn't as powerfull as the PS3. Sadly, almost no games have been made to prove this. :(
This is why I can't understand why the showing this past February got so much criticism. This is was actually E3 and these examples were just tech demos. Last month there were at least 2 fully functioning games, but people were saying it was just tech demos. Sony got all that stuff out the way in one showing, to focus on the details at E3. Odds are MS will be no different, and I think its a smart tactic to not let it all out in one showing.
It's funny how weak the current gen consoles processors are, the xbox one with the slight over clock has A little advantage over the ps4 and the ps3 cell processors can render more than the xbox ones processor
I know that. It runs in 600p. That's why I said "although not native." Even if the GAME ITSELF isn't 1080p, the PS3 TECHNICALLY still outputs a 1080p image.
If you are talking about PS2 games, you are right. But as far as I know, all PS3 slim models can play PS1 disks. I bought a PS3 Slim 320GB in 2012 (I don't mean the newest Super Slim model), and I can play any PS1 game on it.
The reason I bought a PS2 was this. Back in 2002 or so, I saw a PC that I really liked, so I bought it, however, the PC my dad had couldn't run it. And I bought several other games that were laggy. Then I learned about the PS2. A cheap video game console? And I can play ANY PS2 game? With no LAG? THAT is why the console will never die. No one wants to buy a gaming PC (too expensive) and no one wants to spend hours of their lives trying to decide what games they can play. Or trying to clean up t
Developers (the dude who make the code in case you don't know) spend HOURS, DAYS, YEARS, countless sleepless nights, overnight shifts, in order to finish the damn games on schedule, only for disgusting salesmen and dudes in fancy suits to get the bigger piece of the pie. And we don't even know their names!! What the fuck, dude, what the fuck
Calm down Sony ps3 wasn't that amazing. It was revolutionary sure. Haha but i swear I remember this at the time and they made ps3 sound like the sci fi future with virtual realities.
I wouldn't say that for say. It's more for richer people. Not everyone wants to buy a computer that can run games beautifully. It's cheaper to go the console way. Plus there's so many games that aren't on PC that are so awesome on console.
uncharted is for me the exeption that prove that a studio working only on a console can male gorgeous games, like gears of war and recently forza horizon, wich is incredinbly nice and smooth , both console are similar, PS3 can make more polygons in theoric, but 360 is easier to devellop games, and has more video memory for games .
True. If developers would have been more patient to learn how to work with the Cell processor, the PS3's life span would increase dramatically. Some of the most amazing games were PS3 exclusives. For beeing 'outdated hardware' as some people call it, it can still produce some very impressive graphics and physics. Sadly, we will never know what the limits of the PS3 really are. Developers don't care anymore. Like you said: lazy people.
What are you on mate? The only Playstation models with retrocompatibility were the 60GB ones, at least in europe since there was a patch released for the U.S. 40 and 80GB models
7870 is what the 6970 was last generation price-wise so his box is better than mine :P for gaming, that is. I could not live without the responsiveness of my SSD after this whole year of being on one...
wow what ever happened to most of the games shown at the end of this press conference, ni-oh, eyedentify, fifth phantom saga, killing day? only heavenly sword, warhawk and motorstorm was released, that's ridiculous.
yeah your point is I was just telling him the games he said are 1080p and only one he was right about is killzone I wasn't nameing every game with 1080p.
@ 1:32:09 - Was Rockstar Games already working on Red Dead Redemption back then?? How is that possible? R* claimed that they used the Xbox 360 as the development console. And to be fair, the PS3 version was quite bad actually. Someone knows an explanation?
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I miss E3 with Ken his vision really is incredible. Cell is a monster chip still now
1:21:09 - 15 years later we finally have a FF7 Remake
1:32:08
The very first teaser for Red Dead Redemption
At this time, it was called Red Dead Revolver 2, and the name of the project was Old West Project.
5 year later....and the masterpiece Red Dead Redemption is born.
So crazy watching this in 2013... the quality of these press conferences is leaps and bounds worse than now.. But I do prefer how in depth the explaination was here!
ValorsWolf i love to imagine people in the past was surprise by powerfulk hardware. and we from future just laugha.
ValorsWolf The format of the presentation was so corporate. Nonetheless, It was so awesome to watch Kaz and Kutaragi sharing the stage.
Kusuma Yogi It was powerful hardware back then.
Press conferences are so much better now, Sony 2015 was amazing so was Microsoft.
0:41:50 Listen to how nervous he sounds when he said "easy to write for".
The backwards compat. wasnt a lie, early PS3s could play PS1 and PS2 games.
+Pokesanity
I have CECHA01 Launch Model. The best PS3. Change the thermal paste under the IHS too, and change the shit original PSU and now so damn silent. :)
Yeah me too, I got a UK PS3 60GB launch model. Sony screwed our model over, we did not have the EE processor, just the PS2 graphics chip. So our PS3's could only do about 80% or so games perfectly but some great games like Ratchet and Clank would not run well at all.
Our PS3 60GB would later become the USA's PS3 80GB. If you dont mind me asking, what PSU did you use?
APS-227 (EU PSU) I live in Hungary, so i know that CECHCXX model... :)
Now my PS3 work with CFW, because the default fan speed is = Harakiri Mode. Too slow for the PS3. I Run Crysis on PS3, and the degress was 76 for the CPU and 80 for the GPU. I set manual fan spedd (50%), and the temperature look like this: CPU 62, GPU 65. I think i saved this PS3. :)
TheMadPolarBear Reduced cost means lower price it played about 85% of PS2 games.
I still get goosebumps from this.
I want the big fat Silver PS3.
12:30 lol 15 years later now one PS5 have the same power as a rendering server
And still cannot do photorealistic games
@@kusumayogi7956 The game engines have yet to take full advantage of the hardware. just wait a couple of years.
@@mirroredvoid8394 Well that aged poorly. This gen has been a joke.
The Cell Processor...it will remain in history as the worst nightmare for developers
hey. is that still the case now? a decade later? @TucaAlexandru
Funny to see how high the production value is at E3 these days when back in 2005 it was basically a bunch of fucking PowerPoint slides.
Yeah I think they'd laugh at you if you told them they would have a full orchestra 11 years later.
Hopefully with the PS5 next year they start resurrecting these long lost games like Agent, Killing Day, Eight Days, Code Arms Assault and The Getaway 3. Make it happen Sony!
It's still more interesting than Sony's PS5 march conference.
It was a developer's conference smart ass, not meant for consumers. The June one was the actual console reveal event.
Well June one and September ones made up for that as it was a GDC conference.
All this showing off, and yet it lags like shit when browsing the shop.
+Hadditor yeah, but when they had like the old store the ps3 didn't do that, at least not back then 08/09, now though.... lags like hell.
The old iteration of the store before this new one ran perfect and was very smooth. When they updated it to match the ps4 version is when it got sucky.
nolson0 Dude you are very late. Yes I know that, it is a ploy to make people realise how inferior their systems are to a PS4.
The constant updates over the years have made the console run like crap. It was quite a snappy machine the first few years of its life cycle.
This was the first ever E3 conference I watched and I haven't missed one since.
We all missed 2020's
Both Sony and MS have stated that PS3 and 360 will recive very strong support AT LEAST until 2015.
Wow, you really see how much Sony's presentations have advanced over the years when you see this after the PS4 conference.
Wasn't really must of a reveal... was kinda just, yeah theres a PS3...
How time flies by....
Crazy how all these years later we know what was true and what was hype. PS3 memory architecture: nightmare. RSX: hype (360 GPU outperformed RSX) Cell: fantastic idea poorly implemented, but actually true.
+Justin Goretoy PS3 was a Frankenstein's monster of a sorts. The RSX was added when Sony realized that the Cell BE was inadequate for the entire graphics pipeline. The 256 MB of XDR simply wasn't enough to get the most out of the system, and going 512 MB of XDR was just too expensive. GDDR3 was cheaper and as direct access VRAM for the GPU and it's ROPs, it would be lower latency and cheaper than having more XDR.
Jesus Christ Sony you dun goof'd
+Blitz Vogel But they did learn their mistakes and rectify the situation with the PS4.
***** To a fair degree, absolutely, but developers are still pushing the PS4 and Xbone too hard. Also, some people were disappointed that both consoles, even the PS4, are not as powerful as it should've been. That will be fixed with the rumored mid-gen refreshes like PS4 Neo, but the rumored increase in x86 core clock speeds won't be enough by a long shot to get 60 FPS for every game out there.
lol killzone 2 original CGI looks better than Killzone Shadow falls gameplay on PS4.
mast3rsword64 look at the gameplay on KZ:SF, NOT CGI Cutscenes. E3 2005 version just looks much better. Looks at the way the troops move.
Beyonder what the nonsense
8 years later,and this is still funny to watch!
That game "Killing Day" wasn't even released :/
Thanks for posting this. This is still my favorite Sony e3 conference. I love tech demos and I hope there's a ton of tech demos when they reveal the PS4. Most people will probably hate it though.
Who would have thought that one game Ni-Oh shown in the montage is now an upcoming PS4 title 11 years later.
Amazing right?
Really impressed by how the console is still able to push the graphics, and power of the box. Now almost a decade later with the ps4, who knows how far it'll go this time around.
But the ps4 will amazing in front of you, when u see the angled design, and the blue line light up, will look amazing , probably even better when standing up.
I can't believe this conference was 8 years ago...
I was there in front row center! I still have the press kit. I have a photo with Ken Kutaragi after the program was over.
Ken Kutaragi, what a legend!
This is hilarious. They spent half of their press conference talking about a system they knew was never going to launch in spring 2006, it was always Fall of 2006. They did this to try and dull the momentum the 360 had by launching in 05.
It actually looks really sexy even now. It's design was really badass.
the ps2 emotion engine was only partially 128-bit, it had a 128-bit SIMD but a 64-bit core.
Cosmo_Plays Cell was 64 bit to same with AMD Jaguar and Polorais PS4 Pro.
God not even half of the features and tech they mention here even made it to the final hardware. They wouldn't get away with that now.
Pretty much everything in this Presentation has been realized on PS3. Makes me salivate over the PS4 meeting Presentation.
I wish that, before the PS4 will be anounced, some game developer comes up with a game that actually uses the full capacity of the PS3 hardware. Most games now still don't use the SPE's just because developers are too lazy to learn how to program a game around the architecture of the PS3.
If games would have been made to work properly on the PS3, it would have become clear pretty fast that the Xbox 360 isn't as powerfull as the PS3. Sadly, almost no games have been made to prove this. :(
Cant wait until its out on sale
thank you for the upload !
Sony’s PlayStation has always been about pushing the limits of linnovation; thus, I’m a loyal customer to this day.
You just watched the reveal a day ago?
looks like i wasn't the only one who came here after the ps4 reveal, lmao.
This is why I can't understand why the showing this past February got so much criticism. This is was actually E3 and these examples were just tech demos. Last month there were at least 2 fully functioning games, but people were saying it was just tech demos. Sony got all that stuff out the way in one showing, to focus on the details at E3. Odds are MS will be no different, and I think its a smart tactic to not let it all out in one showing.
Love my PS3, so many great exclusives.
1080p will be standard this coming gen but not 60fps.Devs will pick visuals over Fps.
It's funny how weak the current gen consoles processors are, the xbox one with the slight over clock has A little advantage over the ps4 and the ps3 cell processors can render more than the xbox ones processor
I remember when the PS3 was new. I still have one. I have over 600 trophies.
I know that. It runs in 600p. That's why I said "although not native."
Even if the GAME ITSELF isn't 1080p, the PS3 TECHNICALLY still outputs a 1080p image.
If you are talking about PS2 games, you are right. But as far as I know, all PS3 slim models can play PS1 disks. I bought a PS3 Slim 320GB in 2012 (I don't mean the newest Super Slim model), and I can play any PS1 game on it.
So this was where the current 2013 Microsoft team was at in 2005?
Man, the crowd didn't seem very enthusiastic about the reveal :\
OG had: 4 USB Ports, Backwards Compatability with PS2, as well as Black worldwide, and Silver, as well as White in Japan
ps3 has overtaken xbox in sales for the first time since it was released.
Watching this in 2021 crazy time flys
The reason I bought a PS2 was this. Back in 2002 or so, I saw a PC that I really liked, so I bought it, however, the PC my dad had couldn't run it. And I bought several other games that were laggy. Then I learned about the PS2. A cheap video game console? And I can play ANY PS2 game? With no LAG? THAT is why the console will never die. No one wants to buy a gaming PC (too expensive) and no one wants to spend hours of their lives trying to decide what games they can play. Or trying to clean up t
Just the Killzone and Motorstorm ones, probably Warhawk too, the others are "tech demos"
microsoft also said "the age of jaggies is over",just goes to show they had no clue how fast graphics would advance
So far out of all E3s I have seen this was the first and best so far.
thanks very much for uploading this!
The hardware was amazing for the time and still is, but it couldn't be used the may it was meant to be used.
Ni-Oh, Eyedentify, you were too good for this sinful Earth
Not nioh, it came out 12 years later for ps4
Yeah, its a shame...
They don't even provide all Ps1 and Ps2 Games in the Ps-Store, just a few are available there.
Developers (the dude who make the code in case you don't know) spend HOURS, DAYS, YEARS, countless sleepless nights, overnight shifts, in order to finish the damn games on schedule, only for disgusting salesmen and dudes in fancy suits to get the bigger piece of the pie. And we don't even know their names!! What the fuck, dude, what the fuck
When they got to the games, the system shinned!
Silly Sony, the best thing you had to show at E3 2005 was Shadow of the Colossus. It's your own fault you didn't put it in the press conference.
"This is PLAYSTATION 3!"
*dead silent*
That fucking Killzone 2 trailer...
Oh man, I wish I knew the reaction of what people thought when they saw ff7 "remake" scene.
Calm down Sony ps3 wasn't that amazing. It was revolutionary sure. Haha but i swear I remember this at the time and they made ps3 sound like the sci fi future with virtual realities.
first of all it isnt 1.6ghz. its 2.0ghz. secondly the ps3 was using a dual core processor. huge difference
i hope in e3 2013 they having an exciting, fun, and energetic presentation, not just talking about bussiness that will make the presentation boring
I wouldn't say that for say. It's more for richer people. Not everyone wants to buy a computer that can run games beautifully. It's cheaper to go the console way. Plus there's so many games that aren't on PC that are so awesome on console.
This is why you don't do a conference on next gen one year before launch.
uncharted is for me the exeption that prove that a studio working only on a console can male gorgeous games, like gears of war and recently forza horizon, wich is incredinbly nice and smooth , both console are similar, PS3 can make more polygons in theoric, but 360 is easier to devellop games, and has more video memory for games .
Wow, funny how times change.
True. If developers would have been more patient to learn how to work with the Cell processor, the PS3's life span would increase dramatically. Some of the most amazing games were PS3 exclusives. For beeing 'outdated hardware' as some people call it, it can still produce some very impressive graphics and physics.
Sadly, we will never know what the limits of the PS3 really are. Developers don't care anymore. Like you said: lazy people.
Over $1000 for that? i paid $1000 for a 2600K, Sapphire Radeon HD6950, 60GB SSD and 500GB HDD system a year and a half ago...
What are you on mate? The only Playstation models with retrocompatibility were the 60GB ones, at least in europe since there was a patch released for the U.S. 40 and 80GB models
It's sad because PS3's still aren't this complex yet, it's 2012, and should've came out in 2006!
2 weeks until e3 2017, can't believe this is 12 years old.
Wow, it wasn't another 5 years till Red Dead came out.
Sad Praystasion Sree
Are pc master race or xbone fan ?
Pedro Cardiel
No. Just a fan of video games in general :-)
Nice
7870 is what the 6970 was last generation price-wise so his box is better than mine :P for gaming, that is. I could not live without the responsiveness of my SSD after this whole year of being on one...
" we are happy to announce ps3 will be backwards compatible"
Well it was ... for about 6 months.
No, that would be SEGA with the Activator on the Genesis.
It's a difference on paper, but none of the games ever took advantage of all of the 2 tflops
no they wont, just came up in the news
it never was supposed to be a remake Square should never did that demo so that we can have new original FF games.
sonys best e3 conference.
"Like" if you noticed 2nd man on stage was saying PrayStation. LoL
6 usb ports to be put in, memory card card reader as a bonus, and its gone..
2 Tera FLOPS for PS3, PS4 has a power of 1,84 TFLOPS...pretty strange xD
Some of these things still haven't been done to this day and would be revolutionary!
I find it funny that nobody complained when it was mentioned @48:34 that "PS3 is an always on, always connected device".
theres a difference between always on and always connected, and HAVING to be always on and always connected.
I demand a duck demo for PS4 and I want the duck number to be...OVER 9000!!!
2 Tflops=CPU+GPU combined, 210 Gflops = CPU
wow what ever happened to most of the games shown at the end of this press conference, ni-oh, eyedentify, fifth phantom saga, killing day? only heavenly sword, warhawk and motorstorm was released, that's ridiculous.
That Spiderman and Gran Turismo 4 crossover!
yeah your point is I was just telling him the games he said are 1080p and only one he was right about is killzone I wasn't nameing every game with 1080p.
Ps4, I'm ready!!
@ 1:32:09 - Was Rockstar Games already working on Red Dead Redemption back then?? How is that possible? R* claimed that they used the Xbox 360 as the development console. And to be fair, the PS3 version was quite bad actually. Someone knows an explanation?