level up your crew to ace and do the artillery strike hovering over the helipad. Each rocket salvo will cost only 10 seconds of reload xD. It's non-stop rocket rain
can't imagine if you have 3 other teammates, one acting as a drone operator to pinpoint the enemies and three (including you) others doing the rocket lobbing
this is probably the closest you can get to actual indirect fire artillery gameplay, being behind the battlefield instead of in it and using the arc of the rockets to hit while behind cover
The BMP-3 line of IFVs (BMP-3, BMD-4, BMD-4M, and ZBD04A) can do true indirect fire due to having a UAV and also a cannon round slow enough to arc over the distances on most WT maps (
It's incredible that each of the rockets are detected by the anti-aircraft radars of ADATS, Flakrad, etc. This further complicates the anti-aircraft game.
@@GuyHoldingABird Ground vehicles having spawn outside of the ground map limits makes no sense. Artillery in WT can work realisticaly only in WW mode but with MUCH bigger maps like at least 50x50km .
Yep. The huge amount of MANPADS make direct support impossibly risky so they use these things as mobile rocket artillery. Very different on how the US is planning on getting around the MANPADS situation.
It's not very effective in game because all rockets have a fuse for no fuckin reason. They self detonate after a few kilometers so its literally useless and practically impossible. I'm pretty sure the only reason Loner is doing it from the second heli spawn is because of the same thing, rockets would detonate too early so he has to get closer.
Pretty sure i have seen you ( or someone who used this technique ) in a match recently on Ardennes. Match was coming to an end (60 kills vs. 60 kills mode, everyside has one cap) and we were capping the point, when all of a sudden there were rockets exploding all around us. We were lucky due to buildings that shielded us, but man we were really confused xD
Similarly to how tanks in Ukraine are wanting to evolve back into StuGs, it would be interesting to see what a dedicated rocket artillery helicopter would look like if it was designed as such, and not just creatively used Hinds. Imagine an Osprey that can tilt upwards indefinitely and safely, better stabilize, and fire a larger amount of dumbfire rockets. All in the safety and comfort of the backline, and fly away before anything long range can target it.
Given you show 1 strike per game (roughly) i'd assume its a little inefficient right? probably gonna end up refining it and getting multiple successful strikes each game in the near future i bet
Very great video. Russian and Ukrainian helicopter pilots use this tactic on the battlefield but I hope I only see it in the game. Basically flying rocket artillery.
I wish someone would do a coordinated teamwork approach with a spotter plane high above, an AA defense unit next to the arty, and a mobile artillery unit to lob the shells in. :) I mean the drone is cool, but I like teamwork better.
Just curious, but beyond just marking a focus point/target on the map and aligning your rocket target reticle (circle reticle) to that focus point is there anything else that needs to done before firing your rockets? Thank you
ive tried this and had some success i think the key is guessing/knowing the distance i also found that you can use a rocket to "scout" out targets best of luck though its really fun when you finally get one
You absolute madman. I can get lucky with TNT indirect fire *sometimes* but this is a level on its own. Praise the *chase cam,* and all of the *goodness* it brings. Since Cabala's Deer Hunter I've used it to cheese a better view and I'll use it *whenever I can.*
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biblically accurate KA-52
This is real life attack method
For more reality, he should fly forward instead of hovering at a certain place
@@schalldampfer9315 He isn't going for range, he's aiming for accuracy
0:20 look at the disgusting amount of bushes on those tanks
As an OG bush haver. Thankyou kind sir.
My immediate thought was "Holy bushed-up Click-Baits"
They started backing up & shooting the air expecting a heli
i got a tank with 11 bushes on it LOL. old bug from gaijin
Bush thunder
An absolute menace, surprisingly effective. And most enjoyable to watch.
Bro
I used to see you under nearly every military\guns related video
long time no see comrade
down to earth and surprisingly funny
Its a real life tactics
level up your crew to ace and do the artillery strike hovering over the helipad. Each rocket salvo will cost only 10 seconds of reload xD. It's non-stop rocket rain
mine is Ace and 9s reload
@loner1512 I need to level up my crew on the Ka 52, the only helicopter I have ace crew is the French Tiger :(
can't imagine if you have 3 other teammates, one acting as a drone operator to pinpoint the enemies and three (including you) others doing the rocket lobbing
You are a Menace my friend.
this is probably the closest you can get to actual indirect fire artillery gameplay, being behind the battlefield instead of in it and using the arc of the rockets to hit while behind cover
The BMP-3 line of IFVs (BMP-3, BMD-4, BMD-4M, and ZBD04A) can do true indirect fire due to having a UAV and also a cannon round slow enough to arc over the distances on most WT maps (
@ but they are still on the frontline, not behind it like proper artillery
Im just waiting for the Moment he destroys an enemy helicopter with this xD
Better. Enemy's nuke!
I am not sure if that is possible. Usually, rockets explode after traveling up to 4.3 km
AA via MLRS saturation
unfortunately, S-8KO rockets can only travel as far as 5km
@ausfyausfy2455 nope, it depends on rocket. As far as I've tested, zunis for example have infinite range
It's incredible that each of the rockets are detected by the anti-aircraft radars of ADATS, Flakrad, etc. This further complicates the anti-aircraft game.
At this point Gaijin could simply give the already existing artillery tanks an indirect fire mode, so they can be used in a realistic manner.
realistically, artillery wont be used at these kinds of ranges
Maps would need to be at least 3x larger for artillery to be effective
@@Consumpter Maybe give artillery spawns similar to heli spawn but more concealed? Also I would prefer not getting nuked by a M109 in my Tiger tbh
@@GuyHoldingABird Ground vehicles having spawn outside of the ground map limits makes no sense. Artillery in WT can work realisticaly only in WW mode but with MUCH bigger maps like at least 50x50km .
@@GuyHoldingABird Yeah cold war vehicles should not be fighting against WWII tanks. And that goes for ALL vehicles, not just artillery.
Home made artillery barrage, and the thing is that teamates can give you coords via the map so it actually works
BTW this is a REAL LIFE tactic!!! Used in Ukraine.
Oh :(
Yep. The huge amount of MANPADS make direct support impossibly risky so they use these things as mobile rocket artillery. Very different on how the US is planning on getting around the MANPADS situation.
I believe this is probably the reason they’re doing it
Doubt it's effective, I guess both sides are doing it just because they don't have any other use for unguided rockets
Ahaha, prem abrams got confused😂
wish Su-25 get same irl tactics like this in game
it's called "rocket lofting" or something idk
It already can. Just use ccip like they do irl.
It's not very effective in game because all rockets have a fuse for no fuckin reason. They self detonate after a few kilometers so its literally useless and practically impossible.
I'm pretty sure the only reason Loner is doing it from the second heli spawn is because of the same thing, rockets would detonate too early so he has to get closer.
@@therealzach.b I only know S-5k range limit about 4km
S-8k and other I don't know
@@k1roextophia28 S-8K has less than 8km. I've tried and tested it in my Mi-24V in Heli EC
@@k1roextophia28
S-5K 4km
S-8KO, S-13OF and S-24 (impact fuse) 6km
CCIP calculates out to 7.5km
long live flying rocket artillery
- Remember Grad 12? It flies now.
- THEY FLY NOW?
I remember they made fun of this tactics back in the day.
They will make fun of any tactic if it’s used by the Russians, even if it’s effective and both sides use it.
The first clip is certified "o kurwa rakieta" moment
this is the type of thing i do in test drives when im bored lmao
Brought to you by that couch potato who wouldn’t lean off the mortar truck in BF1 if it meant saving his failing marriage
Finally, early spawn helis acutally have some use now
Now that's the kind of barrage I like to see! You're making the impact look like real life artillery! 🔥
This will make people rage quit
I think its funny how you use everything but artillery to do artillery
Чудовий приклад реалізації прикольної механіки!
War Thunder isn't a milisim. It's not ready for these real, long-range tactics. Or rather, beyond visual range, ground engagements.
Yup. Using it as intended 😅
Can you do a tutorial on how to rocket toss with the ah1f and ah1w?
I have tried that withiut the targeting computer and before they added in the new map features, it's very difficult to get a kill without rocket ccip
mate! do you know how to activate the targeting computer for the t129 attack?
thanks.
lmfao, all the abrams with bushes HAHAHAHA
so that new map marking mechanic made this happen. thank you. I will be trying this.
Brining the realism to warthunder very nice, might try it myself
How to Mark on map?
I see it he selects on map interest target bottom right
isnt this how real attack helicopters fire their rockets so they dont have to get so close?
wow man!!!!!!!!!! what a beast i swear. thank you for using whatt the game is for
HE IS HIM IT'S JOHN WARTHUNDER
Основано на реальных событиях 🤔
Yes
Makes me want to grind the Ka 52
This is absolutely disgusting. What a pain for the other teams and the confusion you're creating again. Im all for it, more videos please.
Wish it worked like how theybdo it irl in ukraine. Irl they do it from ranges over 13km but in WT rockets explode midair at around 8km…
you made me confused asf, as i turned this vid on while playing tarkov and i thought they brought back the og soundtrack xD
It's look easier than artileries
Pretty sure i have seen you ( or someone who used this technique ) in a match recently on Ardennes. Match was coming to an end (60 kills vs. 60 kills mode, everyside has one cap) and we were capping the point, when all of a sudden there were rockets exploding all around us. We were lucky due to buildings that shielded us, but man we were really confused xD
Could we get a video of you performing this using the Apache?
Damn. So that SVP-24 system really works after all.
bro, watching your content makes me so satisfied. more than those typical asmr, ngl👌
enjoyable to watch, better keep on the move .. Nice was of punish camping.
Yo bro, i am becoming addicted to this practice, is there any other copter who can do this ? Premium helicopter no balistic distance showed...
Gonna use this to deal with poptart helis that take off 2m above the airfield, spam 16 Spikes, land and rearm all game long.
whoooo :o become air artillery.
Similarly to how tanks in Ukraine are wanting to evolve back into StuGs, it would be interesting to see what a dedicated rocket artillery helicopter would look like if it was designed as such, and not just creatively used Hinds. Imagine an Osprey that can tilt upwards indefinitely and safely, better stabilize, and fire a larger amount of dumbfire rockets. All in the safety and comfort of the backline, and fly away before anything long range can target it.
flying Katyusha
Flying Katyusha
Your content is awesome and your channel is very inviting. (Unlike someone) Keep up your good work.
unlike who?
who?
I would like to see how bigger rockets work like S-24Bs
Given you show 1 strike per game (roughly) i'd assume its a little inefficient right? probably gonna end up refining it and getting multiple successful strikes each game in the near future i bet
"hit" a lot of hits
@@loner1512Such is the Snail
Very great video. Russian and Ukrainian helicopter pilots use this tactic on the battlefield but I hope I only see it in the game. Basically flying rocket artillery.
Cool asf dude ⛄️👏
This is such a dirty strat. I love it
It's a real Russian army strat
KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO, MAN !
super cool but how do you counter this? feels a little unfair but cool
Just move i guess
Run
Just put more armor on your vehicle
Planes, anti-aircraft, even tanks. I've died countless times doing this, the hovering helicopter is easy prey even for enemy drones
SPAA are useless in WT so you gotta use planes
I wish someone would do a coordinated teamwork approach with a spotter plane high above, an AA defense unit next to the arty, and a mobile artillery unit to lob the shells in. :) I mean the drone is cool, but I like teamwork better.
Any ideas what other helis could do it? Or is it just any hud + ccip?
that is stupid accurate wtf
this sort of cheating should be made available for spg's as well.
T129 can do that too irl but they didnt add that
Just curious, but beyond just marking a focus point/target on the map and aligning your rocket target reticle (circle reticle) to that focus point is there anything else that needs to done before firing your rockets? Thank you
ive tried this and had some success
i think the key is guessing/knowing the distance
i also found that you can use a rocket to "scout" out targets
best of luck though its really fun when you finally get one
Lucky for me I never arrive to the objecives in time lol
مبدع يا رجل
You absolute madman. I can get lucky with TNT indirect fire *sometimes* but this is a level on its own.
Praise the *chase cam,* and all of the *goodness* it brings. Since Cabala's Deer Hunter I've used it to cheese a better view and I'll use it *whenever I can.*
Could you demonstrate this in the Apache?
maybe I will do a video with apache
@@loner1512 thanks that would be great
what other helicopters can you do this in?
Bro beat war thunder
Thank you so much for making this, I’ve already seen three people thinking they are that guy and get zero kills in their ka-50 since you made this.
irl tactics👌
This is sick!
holy mother of god i just want toptier
Is there ccrp on rockets or something? All i can see is the ccip but how do you know that its not over or undershooting it?
WOW you're good!
how are you doing the map thing, is it ka-52 only?
How do u get that sight in cockpit? isit possible to do this in Ka50
very specific sight for specific helo....doesnt work in any other so far
Only is a thing on the Ka-52 and Mi-28N/NM. Ka-50 doesn't have this.
Is it possible with other helis too ? Like the AH129D
But the only thing is that s8 in war thunder explodes after 5-6km.
You must be fun at parties
Which helicopters have the little reticle that lets you do this?
RUS Ka-52 Hokum-B
RUS Mi-28N Havoc-B
RUS Mi-28NM Havoc-C
@@FirstDagger Thanks
@@AkaTeaNotCoffee AH-64A/D Apache can do this too
@@FirstDaggerDoes Mi-35 have this?
@@quocvinhnguyen2063 ok thanks
I think those rockets don't have any spread...
But is it possible to do this in a MI8 with a full rocket load?
Please upload a tutorial for this! Looks like a badass and useful tactic :D
check my previous video, it is included tutorial
How do you get the little green circle?
can i do it also in ka50? because i don't see the little X in pilot view, o ly the red square of designated map point
Nope, doesn't have the feature.
I used to do this before the update hot damn, it is scarier now
hell yeah
Can any heli with rocket CCIP do this or is this a specific feature of the KA-52's HUD?
Feature of the Ka-52 and Mi-28N/NM.
can you please make a guide on how to do this so i can just 1 life KA? very cool thank you
На какую дальность эти ракеты максимально летыт в игре?
how many times were you accused of hacking?
Rockets are too accurate in War Thunder. It's an area of effect ammunition but you can use it for sniping in WT.
it will be nice if you may teach us how to do it in Cobra and AH 64 too
Ka-52 ❌
Katyusha-52 ✔️
Gaijin: there is no bias!
Russian main:
You can do the exact same thing with any heli in the game that can do CCIP. Quit whining.
🤡🤡
there's skill. Nato equipment better? Fine! i'll improve skills.
🤡
More like real life bias since it's done like this IRL
Oh no