I got one after hearing all the hype about it and after alot of preventive maintenance it's basically noiseless, runs under 7 volts pushing up a 15 magnum and it's still running fine after 8 months of hard use. I will say, atleast with mine that "adjustment knob" on the (artists) front doesn't do anything unlike the genuine version. I did a couple videos on it on my account on this
Too much tension on the bar...first contact at 2:46 , should have stopped after 2 twists at 2:47 , or better, do not use that at all because the needle wont move around anyways because it's cartridge. Another optional thing is to take out the "stay-up spring". I use dragonfly copies and they could run a 9mag standard needles at 4v. Lining at 5 to 6 volts. Just use the minimum "necessary" tension on the bar. After first contact, twist a little bit more, run the machine, look at the needles. The moment the needles are riding the bottom of the tube in a straight line, there's no more need for additional tension.
The "give" or "hit" people describe is simply the adjustment of the stroke length not the needle depth. You can also quite down rotary machines by putting a small amount of oil on the bearing. I never run rotary machines over 7 volts and I can assure you if you run a 20$ machine on 8 volts you'll smoke the junk motor within hours of running it
I have just bought a rotary machine from atomus. It seems to be very quiet some adjustments are needed as to tighten the armature bars hit on 2.5 volts my kicks on and at 8 volts its flies and once I let off the pedal it still moves like that of a tuned coil machine which is what you would want or expect. In the long run do try and get parts for the dragonfly machine and interchange the parts they are to spec I myself am going metal parts so it's all fit tight and snug to run over 3 hours . It does in fact heat up faster than a coil machine so a new set of wires may help that or just a better quality motor for the shell/box
the reason it wont start at a lower voltage is because the tension of the cartridge. if you use a standard needle and tube it would run at a lower voltage. I know because I have one that's similar. I use the pen now but I switched to cartridges myself for the same reason you did.
I know this is an old video but if nobody’s told you or you haven’t figured it out, you’re tighten up your tensioner too much it’s supposed to barely touch the bar to hold it in place
Ok 1- don’t bother with a knock off.. if anything get a hummingbird gen 2 with a Swiss motor and the same adjustable options- better built and not mad expensive to start... 2, that needle bar is way way too hard on the needle, nothing to do with a clip cord (I run my machines at 4v max).. 3- don’t be trying to teach people when you still don’t know yourself, setting them up to fail.. good quality products produce a better tattoo and less trauma to the skin with no risk of breaking down in the middle of your practice.. don’t skimp if you are serious about tattoos as a medium
I used a hummingbird for years, never let me down.. wouldn’t push heavy liners but 3-9 no issues.. I only use 3-7rl personally Mostly 3.. but it was great for pushing a 13 mag.. good stroke adjustment on it also And very solid built
I know it's old but Ive seen people in jail better than any artist Ive ever seen in the free doing work with a motor made from a CD player and a tube and frame made from a bic pen
The fact you’re running the cartridges is why is bogs down. You need a jump start feature on your power supply and def recommend replacing the springs so you can actually run cartridges needles. Knowing this video is older, the machine probably already pooped out by now if you havent done that
I have a replica of this one. Im tired of adjusting it from lower to harder so i remove the spring inside that place so its hit always hard as i wanted to be for lining and color packing. Nothings wrong with this machine i almost like it. It just u have to study and know its weakness and pros
Outrora em Outono stay up spring. Spring that make the needle always stay up when the machine not running it only need when using standard needle not cartridge. When u using a cartridge stay up spring must be removed and dont using the needle bar retainer.
That's one problem! Second problem is no apprenticeship on how to correctly tattoo someone and using different machines. Not knowing how to tune,run,build,or operate. You also don't tell people you're just learning and try to throw off your veiw and info on machines that you have no clue of how to correctly operate! I've tattooed for 20+ yrs, paid $3,000 to be apprenticed. And I can say that if you know your stuff ANY tattoo maxhine can be operated and used with lill to no problems unless it's just junk. Just do some research before operating different machines.
i bought one of those once to demostrate how bad knock off machines are, let it run for 20 continuous minutes and it just stopped working and never ran again
CG TAT2 dragonhawk says that they fixed the overheating issue with this machine. It’s suppose to run and stay cool. I just ordered the Dragonhawk Raven for myself so, we will see if it is truly worth a shit.
If you use tradional needles it will start at 3 or 3 volts if not less I have one but it doesn't have enough power to fun cartridges properly for me so I just go tradional needles with it but it works better to buy something now expensive
I'm still waiting for mine to come can't wait gonna be so much easier to tattoo my self I've only just started too but I have everything possible I need lol all the gear no idea lol but we gotta learn somewhere I tattoo myself and my friend and I'm getting better all the time she supplies the inks and I get to do the tattoo but nice one for trying bro I've done a lot of research into it and I'm confident enough to tattoo other people it also helps me with anxiety and depression my tats are what represents me and my life good luck mate and there will always be haters for us scratchers 😉
Luis Ortiz just type in rotary tattoo machine on Amazon. I got one, I also have name brand ones, and honestly, the knockoff works amazing. I am a professional. I was highly shocked.
I've had that almost exact (clip cord only) knock off for the entire six years I've been inking and they are actually great for the small pieces walk ins tend towards like smaller flash, lining and script.. Pop that tensioner off and use a small black rubber band and keep the give wide open..
I should say that I basically use these machines as back ups and not a primary tool but a secondary or third string.. I tend towards Axyss, and Bishop, and currently my work horse is the NexGen Paradox.
"Won't work under 8 volts" while winching the tension bar down with brute force. Jesus man watch some videos and for fuck sake don't put that needle to ANYONE.
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I got one after hearing all the hype about it and after alot of preventive maintenance it's basically noiseless, runs under 7 volts pushing up a 15 magnum and it's still running fine after 8 months of hard use. I will say, atleast with mine that "adjustment knob" on the (artists) front doesn't do anything unlike the genuine version. I did a couple videos on it on my account on this
Awsome is it still running
Too much tension on the bar...first contact at 2:46 , should have stopped after 2 twists at 2:47 , or better, do not use that at all because the needle wont move around anyways because it's cartridge. Another optional thing is to take out the "stay-up spring". I use dragonfly copies and they could run a 9mag standard needles at 4v. Lining at 5 to 6 volts. Just use the minimum "necessary" tension on the bar. After first contact, twist a little bit more, run the machine, look at the needles. The moment the needles are riding the bottom of the tube in a straight line, there's no more need for additional tension.
That's not a cartridge at All 😂
01:40😂
The "give" or "hit" people describe is simply the adjustment of the stroke length not the needle depth. You can also quite down rotary machines by putting a small amount of oil on the bearing. I never run rotary machines over 7 volts and I can assure you if you run a 20$ machine on 8 volts you'll smoke the junk motor within hours of running it
That fuzz ball, get the fuzz ball. GET THAT FUZZ.....thank you.
I have just bought a rotary machine from atomus.
It seems to be very quiet some adjustments are needed as to tighten the armature bars hit on 2.5 volts my kicks on and at 8 volts its flies and once I let off the pedal it still moves like that of a tuned coil machine which is what you would want or expect.
In the long run do try and get parts for the dragonfly machine and interchange the parts they are to spec I myself am going metal parts so it's all fit tight and snug to run over 3 hours . It does in fact heat up faster than a coil machine so a new set of wires may help that or just a better quality motor for the shell/box
the reason it wont start at a lower voltage is because the tension of the cartridge. if you use a standard needle and tube it would run at a lower voltage. I know because I have one that's similar. I use the pen now but I switched to cartridges myself for the same reason you did.
mark murdock ahh i see
Yo. I'm thinking the tension on on needle bar is too big. You don't have to squeeze it so hard.
I’ve experienced that too even with coils
The reason cannot be because.
I know this is an old video but if nobody’s told you or you haven’t figured it out, you’re tighten up your tensioner too much it’s supposed to barely touch the bar to hold it in place
I love tattoo i i love this tattoo machine and thank you for about this machine
Hello sir may I know how to adjust the needle in that machine if how long can out.
Ok 1- don’t bother with a knock off.. if anything get a hummingbird gen 2 with a Swiss motor and the same adjustable options- better built and not mad expensive to start... 2, that needle bar is way way too hard on the needle, nothing to do with a clip cord (I run my machines at 4v max).. 3- don’t be trying to teach people when you still don’t know yourself, setting them up to fail.. good quality products produce a better tattoo and less trauma to the skin with no risk of breaking down in the middle of your practice.. don’t skimp if you are serious about tattoos as a medium
What's the hit like on the hummingbird gen 2? Can you do thick lines with it?
I used a hummingbird for years, never let me down.. wouldn’t push heavy liners but 3-9 no issues.. I only use 3-7rl personally
Mostly 3.. but it was great for pushing a 13 mag.. good stroke adjustment on it also
And very solid built
I know it's old but Ive seen people in jail better than any artist Ive ever seen in the free doing work with a motor made from a CD player and a tube and frame made from a bic pen
The fact you’re running the cartridges is why is bogs down. You need a jump start feature on your power supply and def recommend replacing the springs so you can actually run cartridges needles. Knowing this video is older, the machine probably already pooped out by now if you havent done that
I have a replica of this one. Im tired of adjusting it from lower to harder so i remove the spring inside that place so its hit always hard as i wanted to be for lining and color packing. Nothings wrong with this machine i almost like it. It just u have to study and know its weakness and pros
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The original dragonfly tell you to remove the spring so you don't stress out the motor and the cartridge membrane or rubber band will act as a spring
Hey, can you tell me what is this spring thing to remove?
Outrora em Outono stay up spring. Spring that make the needle always stay up when the machine not running it only need when using standard needle not cartridge. When u using a cartridge stay up spring must be removed and dont using the needle bar retainer.
You running it on high volt hence the loud, unlike coils rota run perfect on 6 volts
Each machine should working at particular voltage for efect you like to achieve. It's about motor Rpm, not about volts
What exactly r u using for power?
Where do I get the power from? How much is one of those boxes? and how much does it cost?
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How did u get an RCA? I bought the same one but it don’t have rca
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in person is it quieter then a coil wrap gun and is it lighter as well?
From observation I think the reason it won't start lower for you is because your tightening the needle can down too tight
That's one problem! Second problem is no apprenticeship on how to correctly tattoo someone and using different machines. Not knowing how to tune,run,build,or operate. You also don't tell people you're just learning and try to throw off your veiw and info on machines that you have no clue of how to correctly operate! I've tattooed for 20+ yrs, paid $3,000 to be apprenticed. And I can say that if you know your stuff ANY tattoo maxhine can be operated and used with lill to no problems unless it's just junk. Just do some research before operating different machines.
What cartridges are these?
Can u use just a regular needle with it as well
Wym?
Joshua Delmas yes you can
i bought one of those once to demostrate how bad knock off machines are, let it run for 20 continuous minutes and it just stopped working and never ran again
CG TAT2 dragonhawk says that they fixed the overheating issue with this machine. It’s suppose to run and stay cool. I just ordered the Dragonhawk Raven for myself so, we will see if it is truly worth a shit.
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If you use tradional needles it will start at 3 or 3 volts if not less I have one but it doesn't have enough power to fun cartridges properly for me so I just go tradional needles with it but it works better to buy something now expensive
You made this whole video just to show off your 3rd eye sunglasses didn't you....
Im using DF rotary machine too and its awesome for me,Why.???...because the needle was so stable,punch in skin very fast.
I'm still waiting for mine to come can't wait gonna be so much easier to tattoo my self I've only just started too but I have everything possible I need lol all the gear no idea lol but we gotta learn somewhere I tattoo myself and my friend and I'm getting better all the time she supplies the inks and I get to do the tattoo but nice one for trying bro I've done a lot of research into it and I'm confident enough to tattoo other people it also helps me with anxiety and depression my tats are what represents me and my life good luck mate and there will always be haters for us scratchers 😉
Chris Fenn facts..we have to learn somewhere
Respect to all scratchers
@@ksart5346 hey check this channel out I learned a lot from him Watch "Jono Smith" on RUclips
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Holy shit that's running WAY too fast and hard jeezus christ
Extraordinaria y como si fuera una fantacia, cuanto me cuesta.
Nice man, thank you
Loosen the tension that's why it's hard to start
Focus Daniel son😃great vid though
Nice vid helped alo👍
Jai shree ram
Yo this helped so much, thanks
Glad to hear!
what's the name of the supplier were u got the machine and is it still working ,how about the give is it working?
Luis Ortiz just type in rotary tattoo machine on Amazon. I got one, I also have name brand ones, and honestly, the knockoff works amazing. I am a professional. I was highly shocked.
I've had that almost exact (clip cord only) knock off for the entire six years I've been inking and they are actually great for the small pieces walk ins tend towards like smaller flash, lining and script.. Pop that tensioner off and use a small black rubber band and keep the give wide open..
I should say that I basically use these machines as back ups and not a primary tool but a secondary or third string.. I tend towards Axyss, and Bishop, and currently my work horse is the NexGen Paradox.
brian smith exactly..only thing is u have to tweak it a little
Is it advisable to use in any kind of tattoos?
Shit I got mine today got a coil too
And I m form assam lakhimpur..
"Won't work under 8 volts" while winching the tension bar down with brute force. Jesus man watch some videos and for fuck sake don't put that needle to ANYONE.
Hey buddy my sounds nothing like yours did
possibly power supply
How to set the wiring'
I have a rotary machine that wont run on less than 9.5 -10 volts anyone know why?
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Bro i got you man
Mine starts at 2.5 to 3
How do u change it to a shader
Flokie Norse what a knob
Just change cartridge
Twist the top for a softer hit or it will be like a packer
Sup bro,, hit me up just started too..lets trade tattoo pics
The orginal DragonFly has its logo printed on the screw. You have a fake one.
Pawel Kotulak read the damn title
no shit sherlock 😂😂
Rolando Mota, I dont think you would have balls to say that into my face. Grow up boy.
Thanks Jus, havent noticed that. You know how we sometimes use mobiles. Cheers
havent read the title. Is it enought ?
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