Which One Is Better? | Kawai GX-6 vs Yamaha C6X Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2022
- Today we compare the Kawai GX-6 and Yamaha C6X Grand Pianos! We have amazing digital and acoustic piano options at Alamo Music Center and our other store locations. Come by to test out in person and we'll help find the best instrument for you or a loved one!
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+1 for Kawai in my opinion. All the frequencies seemed balanced and blended well to my ear. The Yamaha treble was so pronounced when playing with added attack/volume that it tended to dominate and suppress the midrange.
+1 for Kawai. I notice the difference in this presentation is also the difference I hear in digital pianos and software virtual pianos from the same manufacturers. Thanks to Alamo for another interesting discussion.
I vote for the GX6. I like the sound better on the GX. I took delivery of a GX2 right before Christmas. In my head I wanted over six feet but my local Kawai dealer had no GX other than the GX2. However he had some SK’s. Fast forward to last week. The GX2, also a great piano, was swapped for the SK6. If the GX6 or 7 had been available I might have chosen one of those, But who could complain about having an SK6? Kawai has really upped their game. Thanks for the reviews.
The Kawai would be my choice of the two. It delivers a balanced sound across the scale. The bass is awesome and does not overpower the treble.
One should not forget that Yamaha has an S6X and the CF6, both 7 foot Pianos with completely different tonal palettes and responsive and expressive actions. Thank you for this video! Everyone should be so lucky as to have multiple top tier seven footers in their show room!
But those are much more expensive. The CF6 is Yamaha's second best piano being a 7 foot version of the CFX. I personally don't think it has a totally different tonal palette than the C6X. I think the CF6 has a similar tone but just rounder, deeper and more refined. But the tonal qualities aren't that different. The S6X has a more mellow tone but still a crisp, current Yamaha tone (opposed to the C6 or s6).
But the Yamaha S series is pretty much handmade and considerably higher in price than the CX series.
Both are phenomenal instruments and it comes down to pure taste and preferences. I’d take the kawai any day of the week, but Yamaha makes killer instruments too. I have 5 Yamaha guitars. We are living in amazing times with so many high quality instruments available to most people. Id also recommend people look at the rimullers, those are some fine pianos too. I have a kawai GL 40 that I think sounds better than the gx I tried. People owe it to themselves to go play as many pianos as possible. Awesome video
It's possible for a GL to sound better than a GX. But overall, the best GXs sound much better than the best GLs of a comparable size.
I prefer the sound of the Yamaha. Both are wonderful instruments.
Both of the grandpianos are good, but I still prefer a Steinway B211 from the 70/80th! Kindly regards from germany.
The C6X for me
Both great but Yamaha need more tuning in middle section....Kawai sounded better and more elaborately tuned than Yamaha to my ears. if you tune Yamaha again and start over round 2 and it'll be a REAL competition~:)
This is not repertoire that would bring all the qualities of these pianos!
KAWAY
It's good that you're doing the video, but I do have a couple of suggestions: First the pianos are out of tune, so it's not possible to compare. Secondly the voicing on the pianos is rough. Factory spec voicing is often too bright (for various reasons), and these pianos would really benefit from being toned down a lot. There's no warmth in the tone of either of them. Thirdly the mics are quite "hot", you've kind of gone for a rock sound, or a gospel sound. That's fine but it shows only one aspect of the piano's tone. Why don't you get someone in who can really exploit the dynamic range of the pianos? You can't really tell what the sound is like when it's being played in this heavy handed hammered way.
You are 100% accurate in everything you have said. I don't feel I can get a good sense of the pianos' capabilities when they are played like this. I keep looking for a demo from a good pianist but can't find one.
@@SuperThalberg I tried a Yamaha S6x in a store recently and I was told by the store owner that I’d find a lot of color and warmth in that piano. It was aggressively bright and unprepared. Major disappointment. I prefer pianos which are mellow, and I mean like Clifford Curzon or Brendel’s sound
@@josephfleetwood3882 Yes I prefer the same, and I also have been misled by sales people and owners more than once. Their motive is to sell and I don't think they hear the difference. I have found a wonderful technician who can make my piano sound wonderful. Someday I may buy one of his rebuilt pianos. For now, I have a Kawai GX6 because I got a very good price on it.
@@josephfleetwood3882 Strange, most of the SXs aren't bright. It's inexcusable that such a fine instrument wasn't properly prepared.
@@benjaminsmith2287 yes for sure. Instruments need the right preparation, and even the finest pianos are tin cans without it
Sorry guys, I don't have the same conclusion as you. Being familiar with the GX and CX series, both have good actions. Kawais can be a bit heavy at times but I like the fluidity of Yamahas. But you're looking at two different rooms and spaces. The Yamaha is in a much bigger space it seems and has to project outward. The thing that I found right away with hitting the treble tones is just how much more bloom the Yamaha has. You hit a note and you hear it bloom and develop in the treble. If these were wines the Kawai would be much more flavor forward and saturated and the Yamaha would have much more subtle notes of flavor. But, the Yamaha has a crisper attack. It seems somewhat subdued in the treble, like it hasn't opened up yet. In terms of the bass, the Yamaha is going for clarity and the Kawai saturation. So pick which one you choose for whatever reason. The Yamaha is not an inferior solo instrument, either, to my ears. The problem is the pianist played not a lot of rich chords nor did he vary the touch and dynamics enough to hear how the colors changed on either piano. Lots of accented tones rather than legato or varied accent tones to reveal more about the pianos.
The GX6 is a fine piano as is the C6X. They're in the same ballpark. You can have your preference but in almost every aspect, they're in the same ballpark.
Listening again the thing I notice is the Kawai is more blended sounded. The Yamaha almost sounds like 88 voices. It's far less saturated. I like the clarity of voices.
In their own website, they state, "Alamo Music Center is Texas' Premier Kawai Piano Dealer!" I haven't watched the video, but I assume they regard the Kawai better for obvious reasons.
@@Instrumental-Covers The Kawai is better does come across in many of their videos. The action, especially. I don't find the Kawai action superior. I find it great but so is Yamaha's. But the CX series,, are used in professional venues and more so than pretty much any other 7 footers. There has to be a reason for it and it's not all Yamaha marketing.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I agree. Kawai as a company has a philosophy that is obvious in their official writings and in their dealer's mentality and approaches. For example, the official Kawai Australia labels Mr. Torakusu Yamaha as "an obscure medical instrument technician struggling alone to build an upright piano from imported parts". Rather than presenting a respectful depiction of Mr. Yamaha as the teacher and mentor of Koichi Kawai, who learned from him since he was 11 years old, they chose to write that statement... However, after almost 100 years in business, Kawai is still not the "better than Yamaha" piano company they claim to be.
@@Instrumental-Covers They're the number two brand in instruments sold by a big Japanese company and I happen to think they make very fine pianos. But I find some people are knocking down Yamaha because they're a top dog. Kawai gives a lot of information for dealers to use to describe their instruments where as Yamaha doesn't give all that much. I think they're pretty much on the same level and it's personal preference which one is better. Yamahas tend to cost more so Kawai gives better bang for the buck. But both make very fine sounding and playing and well built pianos and of course Yamaha makes way more musical instruments as well.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I agree once again. Kawai seems to focus on customer perception more than Yamaha. Even their language is geared towards that. For example, they continue to explicitly state that they sample all 88 keys in their digital pianos, which gives the impression of being something unique. But this is something major manufacturers are already doing. It is the equivalent of stamping in a modern car "Fuel injection"... as if the other manufacturers were using a carburetor. There might be justifiable reasons why Yamaha costs more than Kawai in some models, and it might be more than just brand reputation. For example, most Kawai models use "Acoustic Rendering" instead of "Resonance Modelling". The difference seems to be that "Acoustic Rendering" is more of a static addition of effects to the main sample, whereas modeling is dynamically generated. Yamaha uses modeling even in many of their low-tier digital pianos, which could make the engine more sophisticated even if less parameters are given to the customer to be tweaked. Kawai gives the impression of having a lot of parameters to tweak, but when you actually look at them you realize it is about 5 fixed presets per category. Yamaha might actually have a more complex tone engine, even when there are less parameters to tweak. This is similar to driving a modern car: you don't have 10 levers and buttons to adjust like it used to be with old cars from 1920. In addition, Yamaha cabinets seem to have thicker materials than Kawai models. All that could justify being more expensive.
Yamaha is much better generally. Some Kawai GXs are amazing but some are not. Yamahas much better in quality control.
You must have never touched a real piano to say that
@@gustavogo2915 haha
@@joonjeong4878 i tried yamaha and i say the opposite. its so funny yamaha products are made like you need to put more money and more money to get just a little bit more in all these series they have. the sx sound the same as the cx i even heard piano technician say that. the only one i want if i wanted yamaha is the cf series but they are waay overpriced.
@@BFHPET Not true at all. The SX has a different sound. More intimate and softer in terms of attack. The CX uses different hammers and doesn't have the ARE process. The CF sounds more like a really refined CX.
In terms of Kawai or Yamaha quality, both are quality in at least their medium products up. There is some cost cutting measures in their entry pianos to medium level.
no its the same even they market it different i tried it and it doesnt sound different than the cx@@benjaminsmith2287
The yamaha sounds cleaner on this recording.