Seinen Manga Is Perfect And This Is Why…
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In this video, I discuss the appeal of Seinen, and what exactly goes into the creation of one of our favorite demographics of manga. I go into depth regarding certain series as well as characters, to explain why we are drawn to Seinen series, and why they impact us.
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0:00 INTRODUCTION
0:32 WHAT IS SEINEN?
1:47 NAOKI URASAWA
4:08 THE SEINEN TRIO
6:07 MY THOUGHTS
7:58 SEINEN VS SHONEN
9:19 CONCLUSION
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Content I Used:
Cowboy Bebop OST 1 - Tank
"Yugen" - Keys Of Moon 🇺🇸
Monster OST Part 1
Berserk soundtrack - 4 Gatsu
Kingdom Hearts - CHIKAI
Kingdom Hearts - ENTER THE DARKNESS
Monster Opening 1
Vinland Saga Opening 1
One Piece Opening 13
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none of the manga animations used in the video are created by me, below are the creators.
Vagabond - Cosmos, / @gnathild
musashi edit manga animation remake, / @numberz3339
Friend (20th century boys) Animation, / @someguy73122
guts and griffith dynamic, / @losingluis
Thorfinn, Vinland Saga [Heart To Heart], / @xjuro
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What Is Your Favourite Seinen Manga?
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p.s, this is a re-upload, wasn’t happy with the first release
Vinland saga or My little sister is to cute
Berserk, Vinland Saga, Tokyo Ghoul, Hellsing, Vagabond, Record of Ragnarok, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, One Punch Man, and so much more
@@alexanderdixson9956 so many peak choices! definitely going to make a video about a few of these in the future
kingdom
@@dimitristsobanidis159 oh yeah, I love that one, it’s really historical, all the characters are based off real life Chinese Han dynasty warlords and generals
Knew this creator was goated when I saw an Usogui panel
PEAK MANGAAAAAA
naoki urasawa has midas's touch
Yes indeed
Half way through 20th century boys
Already the best manga I have ever read
W fr exact same thoughts as mine
are you reading the physical copy or online buddy?
literally exactly how it went for me too halfway in and i knew it was a masterpiece
I thought that with Berserk, but now I have to read 20th Century Boys.
Several of these have been on my radar for a long while now. You’ve convinced me to finally jump into several of these stories. You’ve earned a sub.
Up until now, I actually didn't know one punch man was seinen
Me neither
Its not, its gag manga. Nothing seinen about it.
@@Woodsaras seinen does not mean dark lol
@@adamlolbonus4977 i never claimed that
@@Woodsarasyeah it's seinen.
Vinland Saga is by far my favorite Manga I’ve read. Like my god the story and the art work is amazing. I’ve read up to volume 13( waiting on 14 to drop in English), the illustrations are so vivid that when I think about them it’s like I remember them being animated
Wait what? Vol 14? In germany vol 27 released last week.
@@tekklord ur volumes are prolly thinner in comparison to english ones cuz volume 15 or 16 are supposed to be the last volumes of the series
vinland goated
Don't mess with seinen fans. They don't know Bocchi the Rock, Witch hat atelier and Umaru-chan are seinen manga
Witch hat atelier is a masterpiece what’s your point?
Add Oshi no ko too, that series is Seinen
@@anuragdas4605 it's grossness definitely earns it's spot there lol
@@villagetale7450 That seinen fans think that Seinen = dark
Add kaguya sama to the mix to
I love both demographics and I love how shonens one piece experiments with darker themes/lessons. often goofy in the beginning for sure but lots of the show rn has showed lots on slavery, genocide, political corruption, etc
I agree, I love when Shonen turn darker the more the story goes on
Seinen doesn't mean dark. My dress up darling, hinamatsuri is also seinen
one piece and dark? I know some gray moments but one piece has never been dark there are other shonens which are darker than one piece
I loved Berserk and Vinland Saga! I haven't caught up with the manga on either though. I've gotten farther into Vinland Saga than the anime has gotten to and I've gotten about 125 chapters into Berserk. Both are excellent and I want to keep reading. I didn't read the manga for Monster, but I did watch the anime and it is one of my top anime shows. That story and the characters sucked me in and I didn't want to stop watching. The world building is so good and I love how even the smaller characters are well written and get brought back sometimes. I also like how there are sections where the main character is not there and you get to see other characters shine for a while, but when Tenma shows up, it's so exciting to see him again. I definitely want to catch up with Vinland Saga and Berserk, but I also want to get into other seinen series, like Vagabond.
I also love shonen too. It's most of what I was into for a while. Both shonen and seinen are great in their own way. I will continue to read and watch both.
this kind of video production should deserved more subs, u just earn yourself a new subscriber
I’m still surprised that Monster has yet to get an American live action film or show…that could be a good thing but I feel like it would be tough for them to mess it up if they get the right director.
I'd love to see that happen.
David Fincher directing Monster would be a treat
@@srijonsen sheeesh!! Could you imagine how epic that would be!
@@srijonsen David fincher is a perfect choice not movie but more like a show cause monster will be short for a movie maybe a triology or a show that would be really great
Idk the start of the anime monster is amazing but got boring after the second season imo. And I think that has alot to do with it not getting any more love unfortunately
Wow, this was fantastic. I just subbed and can’t wait to watch more!
Really really reallyyy good video, hope to see more from you in past times! :)
I agree but appreciate your effort into this video.👍And thanks for reminding people they shouldn't compare! The genres are different, likewise characters, arcs, plots, ideas, concepts, even the authors of the work!!
This video is going to blow up. Believe it !!!
Dattebayo
Great video my man
Thank you! I was making this mistake (taking demographic as a genre) and it was ruining some analysis. As soon as you pointed that out, somethings become a lot more clear! I mean, I knew the difference, but because I never thought there was such a mistake I made it myself.
Berserk and onani Mr Kurosawa have gotta be my favourite seinen mangas out there
Land’s of the lustrous from haruko Ichikawa and tokyo ghoul from Sui Ichida are incredibke manga 👌
great video, naoki urasawa is the best!
Fantastic video man :)
Thank you goat❤️🙏You got some BANGER videos too bro‼️
I'm gonna check 20th Century Boys and Monster now! Thanks!
Really good video bro keep it up
Thank you for the support❤️
Thumbnail inspiration at it's finest. Well done bro 🔥
Deciding to make something more colorful, thought of you immediately🙏 You’re killing it bro keep going‼️🔥
Wish this video was longer. Love the breakdown.
Appreciate the support
bro you are seriously underrated
Thank you so much 🙏❤️
My favorite manga is Tokyo ghoul and re lol also I agree with what you said in the end demographics so we shouldn't really be comparing them
Takehiko Inoue's Real should also be considered a seinen!
edit - I saw you included Real's panels in this vid
Can't agree with you more Manga changing my life it's so full of emotional threads that ties you, that you can relate too. Please say you will be doing a top 20 Seinen List as i'm always on the look out for new things as I only started reading last year :)
I haven’t thought about doing a top 20 seinen list but, my next video will be recommending 20 manga and most are seinen so, you can def find something there!
@@ShikaiStef Can't wait bro sounds great keep on struggling
Often I think of shonen as very good entertainment. For example my favorite anime is one piece. I also love Naruto, hxh, haikyuu, etc. very hype but has quite a few flaws. However I’d say most of the anime/manga I’d refer to as masterpieces fall under seinen: vagabond, berserk, monster, Vinland saga, steins gate
Sick edits, how is do u only have 2700 subs
Precisely right, making sure to clarify that it has a demographic intent rather than a genre intent. So many people think, for instance, that shonen means that a show is about fighting when it basically means teen boy. Where as seinen means young man, shojo means teen girl and josei means young woman.
Any of these can have any genre under the sun in them, hypothetically. What distinguishes them is how each will handle the genre in question.
Seinen is likely the most popular because it can tell the most honest and universal stories. It's not held back by the restraints of catering to a younger audience that shonen or shojo must respect. And things targeted at men will always be more popular because men's world is external whereas women's world tends to be interneal in a storytelling sense. Women go out, men generally don't come in. (Again, MASSIVE generalization there. I'm a woman and I can find shonen / seinen easier to disgest than I find shojo / josei if I'm in the wrong mood.)
There is also the end result of the above meaning that more shonen and seinen tend to get produced, which could be--in part--another aspect of its wider popularity. This adds nor subtracts anything from what is 'good'. But it can impact what is 'seen'. That has nothing to do with average anime fans, though.
great vid
20th CENTURY BOYS FAN???? SUBBED
my top 3 seinen in no particular order: The climber, berserk and shigurui
this is 🔥
Seinen Manga are absolutely breathtaking :D!!!!
Based for Dorohedoro in thumbnail
The primal instinct upon seeing hnk panels
Usogui underrated
W fax
Seinen for those who wait years for next chapter ❤
Yeah boyiii
usogui last 4 arcs are top fiction and top seinen
When y'all say top fiction do you read books?
Amazing but I still prefer golden age and coalition arc
@@MajorTrouser coalition arc?
@@christophergooding9820 from kingdom manga
Don't mess with us seinen fans, we only know 3 seinen series
SHAMO Legendary seinen manga
Indeed
Watch Monster almost got me into a depression xd
Currently reading Vagabond, such an inspiring story
banger video
All the big three vagabond is my favorite. I mean the way that story is told like it's just extraordinary. I mean I'm a big junkie for samurai type stuff and I think that vagabonds is for me the Pinnacle of storytelling.
Berserk for me I do enjoy a lot but it just the story just goes up and down in quality for me. There's some arcs that I'm like oh my God this is truly amazing piece of work then it just in quality for me personally and this is just my personal feelings it's just like they're not bad it's just I didn't really care for them. Like conviction I enjoyed of conviction but overall I'm like I understand that they were necessary but I'm just like it's not bad but it's like it could have been a lot better
My problem with Vagabond is that the battles are very one dimensional and almost all the secondary/support character are...bland to say the least. Its like the manga goes all in on Musashi and cliche on the rest.
Berserk is something else imho. You could take a character like Farnese and her whole developement is better than most seinen protagonists
what program you use to edit your vídeos?
DaVinci Resolve
W creator
Blushing
You meant shoujo. Josei is the same as Seinen but for women
Till this day I wonder why vagabond doesn’t have an anime adaptation
Could anyone tell me who that heart shaped head guy in the thumbnail??
Shin - Dorohedoro
Damn. I wanna read seinen now
Glad I could help!!!
me see dorohedoro me click
sheesh tuff vid
thank you bro🙏 appreciate the support especially from another creator
I feel like Blade of the Immortal should always be in the convo of greatest for sure
i myself am a giant sword wield chad....
Steins gate is also top tier
Naoki urasawa is really good I do enjoy most of his work.
The 2 series that I really enjoyed of reading of his work so far are monster and Pluto
I read the first 40 chapters of 20th century boys and I'm not going to lie I don't enjoy that series nothing against anyone that loves that series but that's not my favorite of his works. I mean I've tried with that serious but I personally don't like it. The other two Pluto and monster are gold like I mean I really like those works of him.
It sucks for you English speakers that you can't enjoy the masterpiece that is Billy Bat. For most it's even better than Monster and that one is already a 1000/10.
@@Snake3004I know it sucks I can't get billy bat in English. I heard very good thing about the series
@@williampressley1162 Yeah. Best manga of his for sure and one of the best in general but that's nothing new with Naoki Urasawa mangas.😄
Isn't the later JOJO's a seinen?
Yeah. But seinen fans only know 3 shows
Who is the first guy in thumbnail?
Shin - Dorohedoro
Dorohedoro is the perfect chaotic manga
Kinda sucks I love Seinen so much because whenever I try to watch any critically acclaimed Shonen, I end up bored or disinterested most of the time because I’ve set the bar so high with the incredibly ambiguous and deep writing found in Seinen that is very hard to come by in Shonen. Manga like Berserk and Vagabond are in a tier of their own when it comes to character depth and writing with very few contenders that can come even close to their level.
You don't like any like FMAB or HxH or jjk?
i feel the same with most jrpgs
@@officialshinky I actually really enjoyed JJK and I managed to finish HunterxHunter but FMAB is just an anime that I cant finish even after 5 attempts in 2 years. I usually get 10~ episodes in and I feel no motivation to continue. Nothing wrong with the show, I honestly don’t know why I cant get into it.
@@NoOne-kj3un well the first couple of arcs of fmab are semi rushed because they asumed you watched the original so i could get that actually
Agreed i like naruto amd bleach but vagabond and berserk are so muxh better
DOROHEDORO YAYAYYYYY
Do yall think Gantz is Seinen or Shonen? I say Seinen but idk
SEINEN fpr sure it is brutal and adult.😊
Peak
The Fable
Homunculus
Dark Gathering
The witch and the Beast
The Bugle Call
Kingdom
Dead Dead dededede demon destruction
Innocent
Blame
The big 3
My home hero
I am a Hero
Smoking Behind the Supermarket with You
Out
Usogui
Real
Record of Ragnarok
Pluto
Origin
NeuN
MPD Psycho
Hinamatsuri
Harem Marriage
Golden kamuy
Front Mission - Dog Life & Dog Style
Gannibal
Mushishi
Die Wergelder
Dead Mount Death Play
Boys Abyss
Garouden
Gantz: E
Omoide Emanon
Rainbow
No Longer Human (ITOU Junji)
Shamo
Blade of the Immortal
Blue Period
because it's actual storytelling, not mindless action, and not a naruto clone.
Personally, I kinda hate the notion that seinen are considered the more “mature” demographic cuz whenever I hear someone say it, it’s always spoken like you can’t find that in shounen. Case and point, Frieren (for recency’s sake) is a shounen, the ancient magus bride is a shounen. Seinen, vice versa can can be just as “childish” as shounen depending on the story. Zom100 is a seinen, Bocchi is a seinen.
「青年(seinen) 」は文字通り日本語で「大人」っていう意味だぞ。
正確には18歳以上の読者層がターゲットになっている。
It literally is the more mature genre lol
Ur thinking about it way too deep
Yes, seeing Frieren travel with her party and reminisce really gave me the same feeling The Eclipse did. 😂
@@AlexMeco13 Oh god, you’re one of those
Not even a panel from Golden Kamuy lol. Successful manga, successful anime, and successful live action.
Many "seinen fans" only know those 3 titles. At this point, I don't think those "seinen fans" genuinely like seinen. They never really explore or read the other genres of seinen thus they only repeatedly mention those 3 titles.
Anyway, Golden Kamuy live action movie is coming to Netflix at May 19. And Satoru Noda-sensei's new manga is also a seinen manga called Dogsred, an ice hockey manga.
I got into anime a long time ago. I watched it all the time and then I watched 7 deadly sins, my hero, and promised never land. HOLY FUCK those shows ruined it for me. But before that I was trying to get my hands on a copy of demon slayer. The guy at the comic store said I should read and akira and I absolutely fell in love with that series. It led me down a seinen rabbit hole. I finished berserk a few weeks ago and I ordered the first copy of vagabond a day ago. Definitely better than shonen in my opinion.
As a long time manga fan, don’t get caught up in this “seinin vs Shonen” bs. People don’t realize that kaguya sama (a popular rom com), grand blue (a comedy), umaru Chan (a piece of garbage), and Kobayashi’s dragon maid are all seinin manga. It literally doesn’t get much more light hearted than these shows, yet people think seinin is “gritty, cool, dark deep story telling” and Shonen is “battle action, surface level, power fantasy garbage” when in reality nearly half of all Shonen aren’t even battle Shonen (not the case for jump magazine but it is for others). I say focus on the description of a series and see if it interests you, not these tags of “seinin and Shonen”. This is also coming from someone who has berserk, Billy bat, and punpun as his three favorite manga, so I’m definitely not just a “shonentard”
@@bruis1527 I totally agree with you I just phrased it weird. Shonen and seinen aren’t really genres, it’s more like the tone of the story in my opinion. I just vastly prefer how mangakas handle seinen story telling. It’s just more up my alley, not saying all shonen is garbage though, I like a lot of shonen.
@@bruis1527 and I agree that if you think you’ll like it then read it. Shonen and seinen doesn’t really matter it’s kind of just a way of guiding the reader in a sense. In the past I’ve just preferred most seinen.
shonen is more about the fighting, and the main character acting more childish. Seinen is more about the story, and the main character acts more dark.
Barely a mention of Kingdom... it is the best selling seinen and has the most striking depiction of war in any media i've ever consumed. The way the series sticks close to the Shiji means that if you know about Chinese history a lot of one-off lines become dramatic irony. Hara even takes time to critique modern society some with Kanki. It's really an incredible manga and the fact it's almost 800 chapters in and historically not even halfway there is insane.
Never expect "seinen fans" to talk about series other than those 3 title man
What age starts considering you a young man?
16 maybe
Hunter X Hunter is the real GOAT
Lol ok
BERSERK for me😊
Is that Slam Dunk in the intro? That's not seinen
Why no one mentioning lupin, its great series and without that there would be no cowboy bebop
Seinen fans only know 3 seinen series bro
Why does this feel like you made it with ai
Actually one punch man is not really a seinen 🤔
Seinen is better than a typical uncircumcise anime
Dorohedoro is slow and boring😅
Seinen manga is top tier but seinen fanbase is not that good
Vinland saga is 2nd favorite story to Bleach.
Shonen isn't different to Seinen. It's demographic....for parents and there society in japan.
Is a band with "parental Advisory " better than a band without? Are they not musicians?
Anime and manga are the most annoying crowd. I am a Anarcho capitalist I find commies
More bearable
npc comment
Dude didn't watch the whole video
@@boskilingenfelter9515that doesn't make it untrue?
@@boskilingenfelter9515does not commute...111000
1110000111.😮💨 nice try
@@hello-gx6oi I was agreeing with him. Yes I usually comment thru out the video..go walk away your a nobody
Keep struggling my fellow struggler
I call it edgy
Fr
lowkey agree
I think it's ironic that you showed One Piece as the Shonen flagship because it's low-key a Seinen Trojan horse.