+StringsFromHell Heiße Frau, Heiße Stimme auf jeden Fall. Aber vegan - das könnte ich nicht. Ich esse jeden Tag Minimum 500 Gramm Fleisch. Wie wird man vegan satt? Sojajoghurt usw. kann ich ja noch nachvollziehen, aber ein ganzes Leben ohne ein schönes, saftiges, blutiges Steak? OMG...Respekt, dass das manche Leute hinbekommen.
+StringsFromHell warum ist es ' extrem ' oder ' heftig' basische sachen zu konsumieren? ist ein obstsalat extrem? Ich glaube eher die nicht artgerechte Tierhaltung, oder zb das roden der regenwälder ist extrem. dazu kommt noch dass man viel gesünder ohne das 'leckere steak' oder so dran ist. zudem wird nicht nur die umwelt und die tiere extrem geschädigt sondern man als mensch selber sehr. wenn allein schon das Robert-Koch-Institut dazu rät bei der zubereitung vom fleisch einmalhandschuhe anzuziehen, um anitbiotikaresistente keime nicht weiter in der wohnung bzw küche zu verbreiten ist da was gewaltig falsch. allein schon wegen diesen keimen sterben jährlich 20.000(!!!!!) menschen. extrem ist eher nicht vegan zu leben.
+Vika Blackout man wächst halt damit auf und kennt es nicht anderst, oder könntest du beispielsweise von jetzt auf nacher aufs internet oder auf ein auto verzichten ? ich würd mich niemals ganz auf eine vegetarische bzw vegane ernährung umstellen können, aber dafür probier ich öfters mal auf fleisch zu verzichten und wenn dann geb ich lieber mehr geld aus und weis das es "gutes" fleisch ist !
She's beautiful. Clearly her lifestyle works for her...she looks amazing. I'm not a vegetarian but I try to limit meat consumption. I respect her choices though.
As a almost vegetarian, I do agree there may be no humane slaughter but also I would be willing to eat organic farmed meat where I know or see the farmer treating his animals in a good way. I also would eat a wild shot animal happily. I am not that extreme that I would say every slaughter is bad. I mean its nature, animals eat each other, I just think factory farms and animals that live and suffer a entire life just for us is wrong. A animal that lived a happy live and gets killed (slaughtered inhumanely if you will) within a second I have no problem with. I am not looking out for it though. I eat fish sometimes and I also rarely eat meat like today I was with my grandma in a restaurant I ordered a fish (I wanted that but no meat) meal with potatoes and beans. Turned out they had a soup with meat balls b4 it, and the beans had bacon on them. I think this was not even mentioned on the card. I was not that happy about it and I just ate it and enjoyed the factory farmed crap on this single day ;)
I grew up working in a meat packing house. My Dad was a butcher 50 years. I started working the kill floor at 14 years old. I hated putting the animals down. The rest didn't bother me. I respect people who are vegan & there beliefs. The reality is It's a kill or me killed world. Wild animals that are predators hunt to survive. If its wasn't for hunting seasons wildlife would be over populated. People like peta say protect wildlife, put yourself in the animals place. Ok say I'm a deer, I'm a vegan & get spotted by a grizzly bear. Im gonna die a slow agonizing death being ripped to shreads & eaten alive as I slowly bleed out . Peta fights for animal rights. Well how would they feel when their child gets mauled or killed by a mountain lion playing in the backyard , playing where they are supposed to be safe. Thered two sides to every coin. Me I'm a predator, I hunt & eat meat. I have great respect for the animals that provide for my family & respect the native american tradition of thanking the animal for its sacrifice so others may survive.
+Adam Azri i ate 2-3 times PER day meat. i didnt have lentils till i got 21 because my family cooked meat ONLY and when we didnt have food home i ordered chicken burgers e.t.c. soo... if I can do it EVERYONE can :) you should give yourself a second chance and try it again. plus you can find vegan meats EVERYWHERE now (if you're so addicted) :P
It took me 10 years of interest in vegetarianism and veganism to actually make the change. I used to eat 4 peice chicken meals for dinner EVERY night and a sausage egg and cheese bagel EVERY morning. been vegan now for almost 2 years. Best decision of my life.
I will! And then I will impress her with my veganess and awesomeness and then probably her boyfriend will show up and ask me what the hell I'm thinking.
ur right and as the Good Book tells you to provide to survive.. so not to make profit..because of killing ur fellow animals...counts also for rare species too... mankind have a lot of alternatives to survive... let's do it together Peace...
PattonBordin no, you can get all cosmetic products in best quality as non animal tested, simply check out your local PETA website for the actual list of manufacturers. Sometimes, local distributors offer animal tested free products as well, here in Germany for example all DM drugstore products are cruelty free.
Axel Ritt Exactly, I would bet my ass off that she would not wear leather. Also I bet all the products she uses are listed as "no animals involved" while I have to say I am skeptic about if some companies are faking or use the research of other companies or earlier products for the new "animal free" ones. However for the latter, whats done is done, not really harmful now.
well , nice moralistic words she say . But .... nature gives and takes !!! Ask her , if she has any pets like cat or dog . Human is also an animal , see our history . So is life , so is nature , you can decide but not deny your nature ...
Well, sure! I can’t deny my nature, but like you said, we can decide and if there are other options, why shouldn’t we use them and exempt other animals? For example: What is with violence? I think most of the people (including me) had a situation, they want to wound an other person (in extreme cases, they want to kill the other one), because they were very enranged and many of us can‘t control their feelings 100%. So its also part of the human nature. And now? Is this an argument to accept violence?
That's exactly what I don't understand. And what do they think of and predatory animals eating meat? I have nothing against vegans, but I just don't get it.
Shredder Plants do not have a nervous system, nor a brain, and they are therefore unable to experience pain or fear. Animals, however, do experience those things. Predatory animals need meat to survive. We are not predatory animals. We do not have long canines (look at a tiger or a lion, our teeth are very different), sharp and strong claws, or the instinct to kill something and eat it raw (intestines, blood and all) without cooking it :)
If we had predatory instincts,we would have chased animals around and eaten them raw. Put a live rabbit and an apple in a baby's crib. Do you think he/she eats the rabbit and play with he apple? Point is; we don't need meat to survive. So why kill billions of animals each year just for a few seconds of pleasure for our tongues?
Plants not having a central nervous system to feel pain and not valuing their life and having families like animals might have something to do it. Perhaps also, that animals are treated so badly by the meat industry and we do not need it to survive. It's pretty fucking simple.
Anatasinda das in der Musiker wie schön ich finde Musiker brauche ich schon Anna der Musik gefällt mir ich werde schon Gothic brauchen werde ich brauche ein neues und er braucht schon Musiker was die Deutsc Werner Sender ein aus einer deutschen gegen jedes Mal in der Kirche beten werden gehen wir anders in der Kirche beten meine deutsche Nummer Kirche beten gehen gegen die Deutschen immer Kirche Sonntag bete weil die Deutschen genau selten in die Kirche bitte Sonntag. Machen die Deutschen immer weil die Deutschen gehen jeden Tag in die Kirche ein neues in der Kirche bitte Sonntag bitte
Da istana aber ich finde Gothic Musik viel schöner weißt du und ja ich brauche schon dann hast du noch Gothic Musik viel Musiker andere erneut eine andere Musiker auch schöner werden sollte Musik finde ich auch geil so eine andere Musiker wollte ich auch gerne behalten. Anna John Cena ich brauche auch deutsch im eismänner Gothic Musik auch schöner ist anders ich brauche. Anna deutscher Name von i don't is not fahr nicht gibt und da ist das Mitte. Dein Zimmer da ein größer oder ich finde andere Musiker auch schöner erneut aus einer anderen Musiker würde ich auch behalten würde ich 1. Dein Sommer da erneut in einer anderen Musiker brauche ich schon ich schon
Ja schon mal da Annette auseinander und sorry aber es ist in der deine Gothic Musik viel schöner habe bin ich keine Lust sich Heimat Jana deine Musiker schönes ist ein Musiker figalda aber ich finde Gothic wie schöner Mensch und Gothic brauchen würde so
Does she realise being vegan is kind of expensive in some countries...you cannot just say to everybody "being vegans is a way of life that can make your and every others species feel better bc no harm is being done" i mean i know the meat industrie is kind of cruel but hey nature is cruel at the maximun point, if shes doing it bc no harm is done to any creature....well some plants do feel pain, and so many organisms are in your body and are being killed bc you dont wanna die...or would you do it for them? i dont think so !!! I really hope her hair isnt proved in animals, or her make up, or her cloths....or every fucking thing thats around her. Its kind of hipocrital if some vegans say "well i eat fish" then they dont have the chance to live or what? isnt it cruel being taken from the sea with so many others by hunters? Plus, i have read that changing your diet suddenly can make you ill. So i guess whoever tries this is a slow process for them to become vegan.
Well, I believe that if you only use vegan products and vegan food you are actually spending the same amount of money as you normally do now. Of course in some countries, like mine (Argentina), things are very very expensive but it is not that hard. Uhm.. by saying "hey nature is cruel, it's okay, it's time to accept it" is a very passive position.. like.. you just accept what is wrong and move on, when you can make the change? And about plants feeling pain.. Plants are alive, yes, but they can't feel pain as we do, they don't have the same organs as we have. She uses Manic Panic (vegan hair dye) and vegan make up and clothes. And what is really hipocrital is you judging her with uhm.. "vegan reasons", like what are you trying to prove? I think you should do all the things she does before judge her that way. Btw this is not an aggressive response, I'm just trying to clarify things to you by answering your doubts.
Belén Bengochea Nop, los productos vegan son realmente caros en otros países, la idea que tengo es que está mal que vayan implementando ideas cosmopolitan sobre el veganismo y todo eso en lugares donde la economía no da para ello, por eso no está bien que vengan como "no entiendo como alguien no puede ser vegan" like come on, hay regiones en las que las personas sobreviven por la caza, (no es mucha comparación desde que lo demás está procesado, pero es carne al final del día). Si es caro. "hey nature is cruel" es un fact, tal ves la idea de la industrialización sobre los animales es lo que no les gusta, pero la cadena alimenticia está ahí. ¿Como tu sabes que no sienten dolor las plantas como el que experimentan otros seres vivo?...No se si estés informada pero existen plantas que tienen niveles de comunicación bastante complejos para poder darse uno cuenta que pueden sentir algo. No lo consideraría hipócrita, no veo donde está eso, si yo fuera vegan y lo criticará ahí si lo fuera, creo que es mas ironía, porque ella es la que está en pro del vegan, por eso dije, espero que los productos que use no sean probados con animales, ni la materia prima que esas empresas usan, ni nada que tenga una mínima conexión con animales en el proceso. Supongo que por eso me fue por las rezones veganas. Y no, no podría hacer lo que ella hace en términos de veganismo.
Bueno, en eso tenés razón. Hay ciertas regiones en las que es muy difícil poder vivir una vida vegana, pero no imposible. Mismo acá en Argentina, y sin ir tan lejos, uno puede ser vegetariano sin ningún problema. De algo se empieza. Respecto al tema de la cadena alimenticia.. a mi no me gusta pensar que, por naturaleza, tengo que condenar a miles de seres vivos solo para satisfacer mis supuestas necesidades alimenticias. Es decir, se dice que la carne tienen muchas proteínas irremplazables pero al mismo tiempo encuentro las mismas proteínas, etc, en diferentes alimentos que resultan ser veganos. La única vitamina que no está es la B12, por ejemplo. Entonces termina siendo innecesario seguir el régimen de una pirámide alimenticia dictada hace varios años atrás. Y lo de las plantas.. en ese caso, qué tipo de plantas son las que se comunican? Comunicarse no siempre significa sentir igual. Pero igualmente, la gente vegetariana/vegana minimiza el uso de las mismas, no sé si me explico ? Pero bueno, de todas formas, yo comparto mis opiniones, y respeto las de los demás. Es solo mi punto de vista, y al parecer el de muchos. Así como no comería a mi perro, no voy a comer a una vaca o un chancho.
Belén Bengochea Pero vegetariano y Vegano no es lo mismo, ser vegetariano es mas accesible que ser vegano, eso es un hecho, la cosa aquí es el veganismo. La piramide de la alimentación pues son varias, no se a cual te refieras, además, antes de la pirámide alimenticia, las personas cazaban animales, y después hicieron un balance para sembrar y cazar al mismo tiempo, así que es mas que nada naturaleza, de otra forma hubieran comenzado con yerba (?) Lo de las plantas es un fact que se comunican, y es algo selfish decir que "no se sienten o no siente de la misma manera" no no, las plantas tienen mecanismos de protección contra amenazas por algo, hay un tipo que se llama Daniel Chamovitz, que hizo un estudio en las plantas y llegó a la conclusión de que no sienten a un nivel neurológico como el nuestro, pero si tienen la noción de ser lastimadas por entes ajenos a su entorno...entonces no es daño a un ser¿? porque esa es la idea tras el veganismo. Es algo hipócrita cuando salen con la idea de" Así como no comería a mi perro, no voy a comer a una vaca o un chancho." No es solo el comer, es el lastimar a un ser, y vaya que hay demasiados seres alrededor que como no pueden ser vistos no cuentan, espero no maten ni mosquitos ni nada.
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"A second on your tongue is not worth a lifetime of torture" - Alissa White-Gluz. Nailed it! :)
We speak like máster yoda sometimes
a vegan live is definitely the best decision you can do! Try it out!
No.
xXAscendingPhoenixXx yes.
Diese Frau sollte man als Vorbild haben, für das was Sie erreicht hat und für was sie sich einsetzt !
+StringsFromHell Heiße Frau, Heiße Stimme auf jeden Fall. Aber vegan - das könnte ich nicht. Ich esse jeden Tag Minimum 500 Gramm Fleisch. Wie wird man vegan satt? Sojajoghurt usw. kann ich ja noch nachvollziehen, aber ein ganzes Leben ohne ein schönes, saftiges, blutiges Steak? OMG...Respekt, dass das manche Leute hinbekommen.
+MrMeinchannel Könnt ich auch nicht :D Vegetarisch geht ja noch, aber Vegan ist schon heftig
+StringsFromHell warum ist es ' extrem ' oder ' heftig' basische sachen zu konsumieren? ist ein obstsalat extrem? Ich glaube eher die nicht artgerechte Tierhaltung, oder zb das roden der regenwälder ist extrem. dazu kommt noch dass man viel gesünder ohne das 'leckere steak' oder so dran ist. zudem wird nicht nur die umwelt und die tiere extrem geschädigt sondern man als mensch selber sehr. wenn allein schon das Robert-Koch-Institut dazu rät bei der zubereitung vom fleisch einmalhandschuhe anzuziehen, um anitbiotikaresistente keime nicht weiter in der wohnung bzw küche zu verbreiten ist da was gewaltig falsch. allein schon wegen diesen keimen sterben jährlich 20.000(!!!!!) menschen.
extrem ist eher nicht vegan zu leben.
+Vika Blackout man wächst halt damit auf und kennt es nicht anderst, oder könntest du beispielsweise von jetzt auf nacher aufs internet oder auf ein auto verzichten ? ich würd mich niemals ganz auf eine vegetarische bzw vegane ernährung umstellen können, aber dafür probier ich öfters mal auf fleisch zu verzichten und wenn dann geb ich lieber mehr geld aus und weis das es "gutes" fleisch ist !
She a great partner and a great mentor Like all our Brothers and sisters
She's beautiful. Clearly her lifestyle works for her...she looks amazing.
I'm not a vegetarian but I try to limit meat consumption. I respect her choices though.
+keefriff99 Finally a normal person in here :)
Right on!!!
As a almost vegetarian, I do agree there may be no humane slaughter but also I would be willing to eat organic farmed meat where I know or see the farmer treating his animals in a good way. I also would eat a wild shot animal happily. I am not that extreme that I would say every slaughter is bad. I mean its nature, animals eat each other, I just think factory farms and animals that live and suffer a entire life just for us is wrong. A animal that lived a happy live and gets killed (slaughtered inhumanely if you will) within a second I have no problem with.
I am not looking out for it though. I eat fish sometimes and I also rarely eat meat like today I was with my grandma in a restaurant I ordered a fish (I wanted that but no meat) meal with potatoes and beans. Turned out they had a soup with meat balls b4 it, and the beans had bacon on them. I think this was not even mentioned on the card. I was not that happy about it and I just ate it and enjoyed the factory farmed crap on this single day ;)
What a gracious woman. Oh yeah and brutal fucking vocalist.
she is so fucking awesome ❤️
thats what i call a woman!!! go vegan :)
I love her, I'm also a vegan ^_^
I grew up working in a meat packing house. My Dad was a butcher 50 years. I started working the kill floor at 14 years old. I hated putting the animals down. The rest didn't bother me. I respect people who are vegan & there beliefs. The reality is It's a kill or me killed world. Wild animals that are predators hunt to survive. If its wasn't for hunting seasons wildlife would be over populated. People like peta say protect wildlife, put yourself in the animals place. Ok say I'm a deer, I'm a vegan & get spotted by a grizzly bear. Im gonna die a slow agonizing death being ripped to shreads & eaten alive as I slowly bleed out . Peta fights for animal rights. Well how would they feel when their child gets mauled or killed by a mountain lion playing in the backyard , playing where they are supposed to be safe. Thered two sides to every coin. Me I'm a predator, I hunt & eat meat. I have great respect for the animals that provide for my family & respect the native american tradition of thanking the animal for its sacrifice so others may survive.
Word!
♥
Alissa rock she's absolutely right :-D \m/
Go vegan!!! Love Alissa
I tried to be a vegan once..I died..I don't know how do you guys do it? I can't even live for an hour without meat! anyway, LOVE ALISSA THO!
+Adam Azri i ate 2-3 times PER day meat. i didnt have lentils till i got 21 because my family cooked meat ONLY and when we didnt have food home i ordered chicken burgers e.t.c. soo... if I can do it EVERYONE can :) you should give yourself a second chance and try it again. plus you can find vegan meats EVERYWHERE now (if you're so addicted) :P
It took me 10 years of interest in vegetarianism and veganism to actually make the change. I used to eat 4 peice chicken meals for dinner EVERY night and a sausage egg and cheese bagel EVERY morning. been vegan now for almost 2 years. Best decision of my life.
I would go vegan for that woman.
I will! And then I will impress her with my veganess and awesomeness and then probably her boyfriend will show up and ask me what the hell I'm thinking.
ur right and as the Good Book tells you to provide to survive..
so not to make profit..because of killing ur fellow animals...counts also for rare species too...
mankind have a lot of alternatives to survive... let's do it together
Peace...
are those leather pants shes wearing?
same as with my stage clothes, all fake leather ...
Axel Ritt
what about her hair dye?....has to have some animal products....lipstick too
PattonBordin no, you can get all cosmetic products in best quality as non animal tested, simply check out your local PETA website for the actual list of manufacturers. Sometimes, local distributors offer animal tested free products as well, here in Germany for example all DM drugstore products are cruelty free.
Axel Ritt
Exactly, I would bet my ass off that she would not wear leather.
Also I bet all the products she uses are listed as "no animals involved" while I have to say I am skeptic about if some companies are faking or use the research of other companies or earlier products for the new "animal free" ones. However for the latter, whats done is done, not really harmful now.
Manic Panic isn't tested on any non-human animals. I know it was actually tested on Cyndi Lauper at some point.
She is a so amazing woman
well , nice moralistic words she say . But .... nature gives and takes !!! Ask her , if she has any pets like cat or dog . Human is also an animal , see our history . So is life , so is nature , you can decide but not deny your nature ...
Well, sure! I can’t deny my nature, but like you said, we can decide and if there are other options, why shouldn’t we use them and exempt other animals?
For example:
What is with violence? I think most of the people (including me) had a situation, they want to wound an other person (in extreme cases, they want to kill the other one), because they were very enranged and many of us can‘t control their feelings 100%. So its also part of the human nature.
And now?
Is this an argument to accept violence?
Darauf erstmal ein Schnitzel !
Arch Enemy \m/
eating animals is bad? but eating plants is not bad?? I don't understand that
That's exactly what I don't understand. And what do they think of and predatory animals eating meat? I have nothing against vegans, but I just don't get it.
Shredder Plants do not have a nervous system, nor a brain, and they are therefore unable to experience pain or fear. Animals, however, do experience those things. Predatory animals need meat to survive. We are not predatory animals. We do not have long canines (look at a tiger or a lion, our teeth are very different), sharp and strong claws, or the instinct to kill something and eat it raw (intestines, blood and all) without cooking it :)
If we had predatory instincts,we would have chased animals around and eaten them raw. Put a live rabbit and an apple in a baby's crib. Do you think he/she eats the rabbit and play with he apple?
Point is; we don't need meat to survive. So why kill billions of animals each year just for a few seconds of pleasure for our tongues?
Plants not having a central nervous system to feel pain and not valuing their life and having families like animals might have something to do it. Perhaps also, that animals are treated so badly by the meat industry and we do not need it to survive. It's pretty fucking simple.
+Ouwe Hand Would you eat your girlfriend/stranger on the street or your gardens potatoes. Got it?
Anatasinda das in der Musiker wie schön ich finde Musiker brauche ich schon Anna der Musik gefällt mir ich werde schon Gothic brauchen werde ich brauche ein neues und er braucht schon Musiker was die Deutsc Werner Sender ein aus einer deutschen gegen jedes Mal in der Kirche beten werden gehen wir anders in der Kirche beten meine deutsche Nummer Kirche beten gehen gegen die Deutschen immer Kirche Sonntag bete weil die Deutschen genau selten in die Kirche bitte Sonntag. Machen die Deutschen immer weil die Deutschen gehen jeden Tag in die Kirche ein neues in der Kirche bitte Sonntag bitte
Da istana aber ich finde Gothic Musik viel schöner weißt du und ja ich brauche schon dann hast du noch Gothic Musik viel Musiker andere erneut eine andere Musiker auch schöner werden sollte Musik finde ich auch geil so eine andere Musiker wollte ich auch gerne behalten. Anna John Cena ich brauche auch deutsch im eismänner Gothic Musik auch schöner ist anders ich brauche. Anna deutscher Name von i don't is not fahr nicht gibt und da ist das Mitte. Dein Zimmer da ein größer oder ich finde andere Musiker auch schöner erneut aus einer anderen Musiker würde ich auch behalten würde ich 1. Dein Sommer da erneut in einer anderen Musiker brauche ich schon ich schon
Ja schon mal da Annette auseinander und sorry aber es ist in der deine Gothic Musik viel schöner habe bin ich keine Lust sich Heimat Jana deine Musiker schönes ist ein Musiker figalda aber ich finde Gothic wie schöner Mensch und Gothic brauchen würde so
Does she realise being vegan is kind of expensive in some countries...you cannot just say to everybody "being vegans is a way of life that can make your and every others species feel better bc no harm is being done" i mean i know the meat industrie is kind of cruel but hey nature is cruel at the maximun point, if shes doing it bc no harm is done to any creature....well some plants do feel pain, and so many organisms are in your body and are being killed bc you dont wanna die...or would you do it for them? i dont think so !!! I really hope her hair isnt proved in animals, or her make up, or her cloths....or every fucking thing thats around her. Its kind of hipocrital if some vegans say "well i eat fish" then they dont have the chance to live or what? isnt it cruel being taken from the sea with so many others by hunters? Plus, i have read that changing your diet suddenly can make you ill. So i guess whoever tries this is a slow process for them to become vegan.
Well, I believe that if you only use vegan products and vegan food you are actually spending the same amount of money as you normally do now. Of course in some countries, like mine (Argentina), things are very very expensive but it is not that hard.
Uhm.. by saying "hey nature is cruel, it's okay, it's time to accept it" is a very passive position.. like.. you just accept what is wrong and move on, when you can make the change? And about plants feeling pain.. Plants are alive, yes, but they can't feel pain as we do, they don't have the same organs as we have.
She uses Manic Panic (vegan hair dye) and vegan make up and clothes. And what is really hipocrital is you judging her with uhm.. "vegan reasons", like what are you trying to prove? I think you should do all the things she does before judge her that way.
Btw this is not an aggressive response, I'm just trying to clarify things to you by answering your doubts.
Belén Bengochea Nop, los productos vegan son realmente caros en otros países, la idea que tengo es que está mal que vayan implementando ideas cosmopolitan sobre el veganismo y todo eso en lugares donde la economía no da para ello, por eso no está bien que vengan como "no entiendo como alguien no puede ser vegan" like come on, hay regiones en las que las personas sobreviven por la caza, (no es mucha comparación desde que lo demás está procesado, pero es carne al final del día).
Si es caro.
"hey nature is cruel" es un fact, tal ves la idea de la industrialización sobre los animales es lo que no les gusta, pero la cadena alimenticia está ahí.
¿Como tu sabes que no sienten dolor las plantas como el que experimentan otros seres vivo?...No se si estés informada pero existen plantas que tienen niveles de comunicación bastante complejos para poder darse uno cuenta que pueden sentir algo. No lo consideraría hipócrita, no veo donde está eso, si yo fuera vegan y lo criticará ahí si lo fuera, creo que es mas ironía, porque ella es la que está en pro del vegan, por eso dije, espero que los productos que use no sean probados con animales, ni la materia prima que esas empresas usan, ni nada que tenga una mínima conexión con animales en el proceso. Supongo que por eso me fue por las rezones veganas. Y no, no podría hacer lo que ella hace en términos de veganismo.
Bueno, en eso tenés razón. Hay ciertas regiones en las que es muy difícil poder vivir una vida vegana, pero no imposible. Mismo acá en Argentina, y sin ir tan lejos, uno puede ser vegetariano sin ningún problema. De algo se empieza. Respecto al tema de la cadena alimenticia.. a mi no me gusta pensar que, por naturaleza, tengo que condenar a miles de seres vivos solo para satisfacer mis supuestas necesidades alimenticias. Es decir, se dice que la carne tienen muchas proteínas irremplazables pero al mismo tiempo encuentro las mismas proteínas, etc, en diferentes alimentos que resultan ser veganos. La única vitamina que no está es la B12, por ejemplo. Entonces termina siendo innecesario seguir el régimen de una pirámide alimenticia dictada hace varios años atrás.
Y lo de las plantas.. en ese caso, qué tipo de plantas son las que se comunican? Comunicarse no siempre significa sentir igual. Pero igualmente, la gente vegetariana/vegana minimiza el uso de las mismas, no sé si me explico ?
Pero bueno, de todas formas, yo comparto mis opiniones, y respeto las de los demás. Es solo mi punto de vista, y al parecer el de muchos. Así como no comería a mi perro, no voy a comer a una vaca o un chancho.
Belén Bengochea Pero vegetariano y Vegano no es lo mismo, ser vegetariano es mas accesible que ser vegano, eso es un hecho, la cosa aquí es el veganismo. La piramide de la alimentación pues son varias, no se a cual te refieras, además, antes de la pirámide alimenticia, las personas cazaban animales, y después hicieron un balance para sembrar y cazar al mismo tiempo, así que es mas que nada naturaleza, de otra forma hubieran comenzado con yerba (?)
Lo de las plantas es un fact que se comunican, y es algo selfish decir que "no se sienten o no siente de la misma manera" no no, las plantas tienen mecanismos de protección contra amenazas por algo, hay un tipo que se llama Daniel Chamovitz, que hizo un estudio en las plantas y llegó a la conclusión de que no sienten a un nivel neurológico como el nuestro, pero si tienen la noción de ser lastimadas por entes ajenos a su entorno...entonces no es daño a un ser¿? porque esa es la idea tras el veganismo. Es algo hipócrita cuando salen con la idea de" Así como no comería a mi perro, no voy a comer a una vaca o un chancho." No es solo el comer, es el lastimar a un ser, y vaya que hay demasiados seres alrededor que como no pueden ser vistos no cuentan, espero no maten ni mosquitos ni nada.
Damn dude ! You're a true hater and stalker. It's creepy.