"I make my own circut boards" *shows Snap Circuts* Genius. Also, I remember getting a Snap Circuts set a few years back. I was probably a little old for it, but I was getting into electronics, and it was better than soldering for a 12 year old. I loved optimising the circuts to make them as small and efficient as possible, along with doing a bit of circut bending too! They're really great for anyone who's still too young to be trusted with a 500 degree metal rod but wants to learn about electronics.
I think this is probably good for those situations where price doesn't matter and you only need one off of something. I've done projects for clients before that had no budget limit but had to be done within weeks.
Lots of negative people here saying it's merely a commercial in disguise. I've just went through building a camera slider that can do small steps in between shots (used for macrophotography) and is conventiently controlled by my mobile phone, meaning I had to develop on Android and Arduino, plus finding lots of information by myself. Even so, I used an Adafruit Shield to at least not having to do the stepper driver handling myself and implemented many bits of source by other people. So, even when doing it "the hard way" will never mean you do all of it from scratch, but hobbyists with focus on youtube commenting will probably not understand, as they lack this experience themselves. Tinkerforge may be a great way to reduce some of the hassle. Looking forward to your first larger project with it. Also, thanks for the cool videos, you're one of my most favorite RUclipsrs, I very much look forward to your videos. Liebe Grüsse aus der Schweiz! Sagste Bescheid wenn'de mal im Süden bist und Lust auf 'nen kühles Getränk hast.
I again need to say: I really like your channel and your videos. The editing is great, the voice-over suit this sort of videos and the process of you tinkering and building something is fun to watch! Also thank you for keeping high the level of RUclips by participating in uploading videos about science and electronics! (Small hint here: I only support the real Primitive Technology-Channel by only watching his videos, not all the ones of all these other rippoffs that stole his idea and ridiculously putting 'Primitive Technology' in their title. But that's just my opinion.)
Thank you! I agree, I only noticed later that I didn't get a genuine Primitive Tech video there, I just clicked on something on the RUclips front page, otherwise I would have changed it right away
ich nutze seit einigen jahren nun schon die tinkerforge module für nen paar diy projekte, sie sind etwas teurer als andere konzepte, aber hey, designed in germany, qualitativ fantastisch und super simpel zu nutzen.
The point of these bricks is not to save you money by replacing single-purpose tools like a thermal camera. The point is you get a superbly flexible system to quickly prototype ideas. You don't save cost on the device themselves, you save cost on the time-to-result. That's why these are actually pretty cheap. When you consider an Engineer's time at say 50 to 100 USD or EUR and hour, tinkering time ends up costing a lot. That's why Tinkerforge is targetting the pro market.
Yay finally a good video about TinkerForge. My only problem I have with that and the Arduino Due is that Microship has declared those ATSAM3 microcontrollers as "not recommended for news designs". I would like to jump on those since I constantly hit brick walls with 8 bit PICs.
Damn Microchip, i feel the whole Atmel subsidiary is not getting much love. I think jumping ship to STM32 is absolutely par for the course. There's always a second source for those. GigaDevice makes compatible ICs, and NXP and others have incompatible but way similar ones. I think ARM microcontrollers are the way of the future, damn cheap, easy, and great peripherals usually, and so much less vendor lock-in, because there's always a competitor to port to with moderate effort and little risk of difficult to catch issues. But depends what kind of brick walls? I mean even STM8 and especially AVR are less constrained than 8-bit PIC computationally, though they lack in hardware peripherals, which is that kind of trade-off, AVR ecosystem favours bitbanging. Most popular 3D printer platform which does pretty nontrivial things, lots of synchronised motor movement, UI, SD-card, high-speed text parsing, floating-point math, is all just running on a 16 MHz AVR 8-bit. Not even quite maxed out. No special-purpose peripherals used for just about anything save for embedded shift registers pretending to be SPI interfacing the SD card, and another pair pretending to be the UART. Economically, it doesn't make much sense any longer, since STM32F103 is plain cheaper and better, but it's how it was done in the early days of the RepRap project, it grew from there, and it still works.
The ATSAM4 can be used as a drop in replacement and we are already using it for the newest production runs (same firmware we just need a few runtime checks because of flash timing differences during flash writes).
Great video. Do you have a tutorial about connection over remote ip?. I have a thermal bricklet but only can see in local network. I need to connect out of the local net.
Think of it like holding a long stick with your finger, trying to balance it.. the larger/faster movement happens at your finger level, while the tip of the stick high up is more stable, and moves slower.. adding more weight to the top makes the whole thing more stable..
I once took apart some older aviation equipment from seaplanes, and honestly same idea with the stackable modules haha although of course the quality was insane
We have very different ideas about what is "affordable" Marco. From the standpoint of ease of use and overall flexibility this is a fantastic tool. The shipping from Socialist Eurostan to the USA is prohibitive and is ultimately a deal killer. Adafruit and other US vendors will continue to get my business. And FLIR World HQ is 16 miles from me...... The android version of the FLIR One Gen3 thermal camera is $199USD before discount. The FLIR Bricklet with case and cable is $300USD including shipping. The math Yo!
Very weird that they didn't send samples for review to EEVBlog. Maybe they are building confidence through other reviewers first, because they know Dave reviews can turn the "wrong way".
Their module currently uses the Lepton 2 or lower. This is a bad value until they start using the Lepton 3 as you're paying the same price for a quarter of the resolution. Also, the whole Lepton for DIY situation is kinda shit in general since FLIR refuses to supply the high framerate versions.
I am sorry, I don't agree with you at all, first of all, this is the lower resolution sensor and it is almost half the price on Digikey(sensor only). Also, there is a complete solution sold by Flir around 450$ that will give you better results than this, which for a hobbyist, is a much more economical, since to have a complete thermal camera built around the bricks will almost cost a little bit less than 450$ Definitely not a good value for just a thermal camera build! On the other side, I can't deny how much I was impressed when I saw it since for me, it is the first time I see a thermal camera with Flir sensor on a "Bricklet", I really like it regardless the high price!
You need something that you want to do. For me it was repairing synthesizers. Then you have to learn to achieve something you want, instead of learning for the sake of learning
Download an app called "Everycircuit" or another similar app and play with it. Then get a cheap breadboard kit with basic components and build some of the circuits in the software apps to get a hands on experience. Cheap tools to get you up and running.
I have seen products like that.... Never tried it or you can say my projects are not that much complicated.... But... I will try those in future.... I am also thinking.... That will chane the youth generation.... Like... Every thing is hear.... Like legoes.... Just put it... & you make lot of shapes....
Python is a pain, I use C++. And I already have a 1000$ thermal camera. but I built a Oscilloscope which took 4 months to build. But the concept is neat, It is simple. Playing with PLC stuff and other industrial "lego" is also neat
4:43 ..lol you're into to Carnivore plants ... 3 different species of carnivore plants ...I would not let the little dogs near them :) ... just sayin' ... Tinkerforge solutions are great no doubt.
You only learn, by doing things the wrong way… Just connecting bricks, without having problems is like cooking with prefabricated meals, it's fast but...
If you have something that needs to be prototyped/feasibility tested within weeks you might not have all the time in the world to learn on the job and you're boss might not be too happy either.
€249.99 Incl. 19% Tax, excl. Shipping Cost 80x60 pixel thermal imaging camera Measurement range -10°C to 450°C This isn't affordable or a good investment. No thanks.
Boring stuff - I'm OK when you show products (and sadly i tend to buy those just because they are cool) but Elector or Tinkerforge - thats just ordinary stuff they force you down the throat in every Conrad or other over expensive home improvement stores...
Well... at least it's not quite "ask us for pricing (call this phone number)" which usually translates to "if you have to ask, you won't be able to afford it in your lifetime". For use in professional setting as a prototyping and debugging toolkit or for unique one-off industrial setups, this is cheap.
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"I make my own circut boards"
*shows Snap Circuts*
Genius.
Also, I remember getting a Snap Circuts set a few years back. I was probably a little old for it, but I was getting into electronics, and it was better than soldering for a 12 year old. I loved optimising the circuts to make them as small and efficient as possible, along with doing a bit of circut bending too! They're really great for anyone who's still too young to be trusted with a 500 degree metal rod but wants to learn about electronics.
The self balancing robot is an inverse pendulum, put the battery in top
Well damn.. a commercial I wanted to watch. Lot better than superbowl commercials.
I think this is probably good for those situations where price doesn't matter and you only need one off of something. I've done projects for clients before that had no budget limit but had to be done within weeks.
Lots of negative people here saying it's merely a commercial in disguise. I've just went through building a camera slider that can do small steps in between shots (used for macrophotography) and is conventiently controlled by my mobile phone, meaning I had to develop on Android and Arduino, plus finding lots of information by myself. Even so, I used an Adafruit Shield to at least not having to do the stepper driver handling myself and implemented many bits of source by other people. So, even when doing it "the hard way" will never mean you do all of it from scratch, but hobbyists with focus on youtube commenting will probably not understand, as they lack this experience themselves. Tinkerforge may be a great way to reduce some of the hassle. Looking forward to your first larger project with it.
Also, thanks for the cool videos, you're one of my most favorite RUclipsrs, I very much look forward to your videos.
Liebe Grüsse aus der Schweiz! Sagste Bescheid wenn'de mal im Süden bist und Lust auf 'nen kühles Getränk hast.
4:46 - somehow you managed to capture in your time lapse a spider finishing the middle of its web 🙂
I again need to say: I really like your channel and your videos. The editing is great, the voice-over suit this sort of videos and the process of you tinkering and building something is fun to watch! Also thank you for keeping high the level of RUclips by participating in uploading videos about science and electronics!
(Small hint here: I only support the real Primitive Technology-Channel by only watching his videos, not all the ones of all these other rippoffs that stole his idea and ridiculously putting 'Primitive Technology' in their title. But that's just my opinion.)
Thank you! I agree, I only noticed later that I didn't get a genuine Primitive Tech video there, I just clicked on something on the RUclips front page, otherwise I would have changed it right away
Great video. I am going to give these things a closer look now as I also thought they were toys for beginners.
Pricey but it really fits a market these days.. Thanks for the look Marco! *Edit* LMAO Ending.. I was waiting to see if it would as well
I can see it now, "Heat speaking robot! Here again to save the day!" *Runs off cliff* end credits roll** love the vids
ich nutze seit einigen jahren nun schon die tinkerforge module für nen paar diy projekte, sie sind etwas teurer als andere konzepte, aber hey, designed in germany, qualitativ fantastisch und super simpel zu nutzen.
I want ALL of those modules to play around with
I have a FLIR E8. Very good thermal camera
The point of these bricks is not to save you money by replacing single-purpose tools like a thermal camera. The point is you get a superbly flexible system to quickly prototype ideas. You don't save cost on the device themselves, you save cost on the time-to-result. That's why these are actually pretty cheap. When you consider an Engineer's time at say 50 to 100 USD or EUR and hour, tinkering time ends up costing a lot. That's why Tinkerforge is targetting the pro market.
As an EE I could see that
Pretty slick. Maybe you can make a module for them for the cause. I bet they have most of anything you could come up with however.
How much can you simplify projects before it is *assemblying* instead of building
xkcd.com/1988/ Containers
Lego's?
@@rasz hahahahaha I feel that in my soul brotha
Yay finally a good video about TinkerForge. My only problem I have with that and the Arduino Due is that Microship has declared those ATSAM3 microcontrollers as "not recommended for news designs". I would like to jump on those since I constantly hit brick walls with 8 bit PICs.
Damn Microchip, i feel the whole Atmel subsidiary is not getting much love. I think jumping ship to STM32 is absolutely par for the course. There's always a second source for those. GigaDevice makes compatible ICs, and NXP and others have incompatible but way similar ones. I think ARM microcontrollers are the way of the future, damn cheap, easy, and great peripherals usually, and so much less vendor lock-in, because there's always a competitor to port to with moderate effort and little risk of difficult to catch issues.
But depends what kind of brick walls? I mean even STM8 and especially AVR are less constrained than 8-bit PIC computationally, though they lack in hardware peripherals, which is that kind of trade-off, AVR ecosystem favours bitbanging. Most popular 3D printer platform which does pretty nontrivial things, lots of synchronised motor movement, UI, SD-card, high-speed text parsing, floating-point math, is all just running on a 16 MHz AVR 8-bit. Not even quite maxed out. No special-purpose peripherals used for just about anything save for embedded shift registers pretending to be SPI interfacing the SD card, and another pair pretending to be the UART. Economically, it doesn't make much sense any longer, since STM32F103 is plain cheaper and better, but it's how it was done in the early days of the RepRap project, it grew from there, and it still works.
The ATSAM4 can be used as a drop in replacement and we are already using it for the newest production runs (same firmware we just need a few runtime checks because of flash timing differences during flash writes).
I love your videos! Please keep up the great work! 😊👍
Nice video, but at 7:14 how do you use a tablet with raspberry pi? Do you make some adaptation or is just a vnc-like connection?
That tablet is basically an HDMI monitor with a battery
Wow, what a bad excuse for emtying the beer...😉
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Great video. Do you have a tutorial about connection over remote ip?. I have a thermal bricklet but only can see in local network. I need to connect out of the local net.
You should do a video on PID control once you get your robot working.
What tablet are you using?
Extra points for the Kenneth Williams clip.
Love it! Might check them out myself...
Do you still use the TS100 iron? And what applications does it not fit with, now after you've used and tried it for some time?
Dota2 tinker teleport sound to start the video, ooOo this is going to be a good one.
I am interested in buying the Thermal Imaging Bricklet. I wanted to know which Leptopn camera series are you guys using there? 2.5?
great video! what would you think of a simple step by step example,with one red/master, one bricklet and a raspberrypi?
0:20 - did you draw that cat? If so, I’m impressed.
The cat made my day..😂😂😂
Are this boards compatible with OEM chips like the ones sold for arduino/raspberry on other markets?
If you put the battery on top and the IMU on the motor schaaftt level you'll probably get more stability.. xx
Really? Totally counter-intuitive! Will give that a try
Think of it like holding a long stick with your finger, trying to balance it.. the larger/faster movement happens at your finger level, while the tip of the stick high up is more stable, and moves slower.. adding more weight to the top makes the whole thing more stable..
What tablet is?
Cheers!
5:15 What's the reference of the motor please? Great video!
"Python for hardware"? I'm gonna steal that!
MORE :D This is awesome
Thank you for your videos!
Yes, those suicidal PIDs can be quite annoying at times.
I like that you can see a spider making it's web in the time lapse
Awesome video!!
Hope you Upload more about this, would Love to see some Tutorial about small Projects
Keep up the good Work!!!
Those boards looks like flight controller/4 in 1 esc/vtx and so on. Quadcopters stacks. 😊
Haha I was thinking the same :)
Thought so too! Maybe with a GPS and an IMU module one could be made? But they don't have a BLDC controller yet ...
Marco Reps Who knows... Maybe soon it will! 😊 For now I stay with the Holybro Kakute flight stack (the one with the 35a Tekko32 4 in 1 escs). 😊
I once took apart some older aviation equipment from seaplanes, and honestly same idea with the stackable modules haha although of course the quality was insane
Started to watch video and heard Stargate noises. Interesting detail
LOL, props for drinking the whole bottle for science
TinkerForge should talk to LEGO and make a toy bricklet set
"I wish I could say that I found out about this on my own"
Heheh, this says something about you
I demand longer videos!
lookss tempting
Randomly chugs a whole bootle of water without anything happening. Lol
We have very different ideas about what is "affordable" Marco. From the standpoint of ease of use and overall flexibility this is a fantastic tool. The shipping from Socialist Eurostan to the USA is prohibitive and is ultimately a deal killer. Adafruit and other US vendors will continue to get my business. And FLIR World HQ is 16 miles from me...... The android version of the FLIR One Gen3 thermal camera is $199USD before discount. The FLIR Bricklet with case and cable is $300USD including shipping. The math Yo!
Very weird that they didn't send samples for review to EEVBlog. Maybe they are building confidence through other reviewers first, because they know Dave reviews can turn the "wrong way".
250 Euro is not exactly affordable!
For someone who would otherwise consider a 1000€ Flir it is
Their module currently uses the Lepton 2 or lower. This is a bad value until they start using the Lepton 3 as you're paying the same price for a quarter of the resolution. Also, the whole Lepton for DIY situation is kinda shit in general since FLIR refuses to supply the high framerate versions.
I am sorry, I don't agree with you at all, first of all, this is the lower resolution sensor and it is almost half the price on Digikey(sensor only). Also, there is a complete solution sold by Flir around 450$ that will give you better results than this, which for a hobbyist, is a much more economical, since to have a complete thermal camera built around the bricks will almost cost a little bit less than 450$
Definitely not a good value for just a thermal camera build!
On the other side, I can't deny how much I was impressed when I saw it since for me, it is the first time I see a thermal camera with Flir sensor on a "Bricklet", I really like it regardless the high price!
No need for sorries, all opinions are appreciated! We can agree on the fact that it would be better with the newer Letopn 3 sensor
Flir one seems to be in the same price range, but better (it has a normal camera too)
Wow, that's some sexy stuff! (Sorry, I meant the Tinkerforge hardware.)
Nice Project
thank you.
please upload more often !!
You may wnat to combine these with MakerBeam for the mechanics.
Can you recommend some place to learn electronics?
You need something that you want to do. For me it was repairing synthesizers. Then you have to learn to achieve something you want, instead of learning for the sake of learning
That does make sense indeed, thanks for the reply. Anyways love your channel and your sense of humor.
Download an app called "Everycircuit" or another similar app and play with it. Then get a cheap breadboard kit with basic components and build some of the circuits in the software apps to get a hands on experience. Cheap tools to get you up and running.
Your balancing robot will work better with the battery at the top and the IMU at the bottom.
Will try that!
More likey. Heat seeking death robot. RELEASE THE HSDR!
Carry a TP, I see what you did there ;)
Nice venge btw.
Great! another sponsored video.
Tinker OP => Tinkerforge OP SeemsGood
I have seen products like that.... Never tried it or you can say my projects are not that much complicated.... But... I will try those in future.... I am also thinking.... That will chane the youth generation.... Like... Every thing is hear.... Like legoes.... Just put it... & you make lot of shapes....
Python is a pain, I use C++. And I already have a 1000$ thermal camera. but I built a Oscilloscope which took 4 months to build.
But the concept is neat, It is simple.
Playing with PLC stuff and other industrial "lego" is also neat
\*insert obligatory shut up and take my money gif here\*
What's up with the white gloves? Are you paying homage to Andreas? :-)
Your beverage was not that cold, as the footage clearly shows :-P
Will you show us some nice things with the 410 Amps IOT-Relay?
Would love to try something involving a big bank of capacitors, a coil and a projectile, but those kind of applications are very illegal here :(
Nice pid
Shit, how do I upvote twice? I already upvoted then you said the thing about otherwise not downing the whole bottle XD
Love it: Mechanical keyboard. I use only those. 😊
Do reackon you could make a graphic card
4:43 ..lol you're into to Carnivore plants ... 3 different species of carnivore plants ...I would not let the little dogs near them :) ... just sayin' ... Tinkerforge solutions are great no doubt.
Would you like a Cadillac car
Or a guest-shot on Jack Paar?
How about a date with Heady Lemarr?
You gonna get it!
5:45 "mfw there are colorful LEDs"
as a 14y/o i take the comment about the comlexity level personally
can be implemented to mark possible COVID-19 infected with fever
Why isn’t this marked as paid endorsement?
Hey... vengeful spirit picker!?
I am more of a Dazzle guy myself, but I don't have a figure of him :)
I was wondering when it will be the next time you will use Dota 2 sounds in your video
Suicidal PID controller lol......State feedback master race (?
You only learn, by doing things the wrong way… Just connecting bricks, without having problems is like cooking with prefabricated meals, it's fast but...
If you have something that needs to be prototyped/feasibility tested within weeks you might not have all the time in the world to learn on the job and you're boss might not be too happy either.
I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities to make mistakes, even with this system. Nice that this is open so we can see how they're doing things.
du bist schon ein Vogel ^^
aber ein sympathischer Vogel 😁
Now to wait for the chinese to ripoff the germans so that we can all afford them, He's right, it does sound a lot like arduino 😂
Python for hardware? I hate programming in python.....
marco 😘 kiss to you
€249.99
Incl. 19% Tax, excl. Shipping Cost
80x60 pixel thermal imaging camera
Measurement range -10°C to 450°C
This isn't affordable or a good investment. No thanks.
Junge, bei deinem Akzent kannst du gleich bei Deutsch bleiben xD
Boring stuff - I'm OK when you show products (and sadly i tend to buy those just because they are cool) but Elector or Tinkerforge - thats just ordinary stuff they force you down the throat in every Conrad or other over expensive home improvement stores...
LAANGWEILIG!!!
Why not give a ballpark price figure? Now people have to go to that site to investigate, ohhh … i see.
Yeah, "Ohhh I see" freaking 250 euros.
Well... at least it's not quite "ask us for pricing (call this phone number)" which usually translates to "if you have to ask, you won't be able to afford it in your lifetime". For use in professional setting as a prototyping and debugging toolkit or for unique one-off industrial setups, this is cheap.
thays how he makes money, reppin shit lol and the patreon scam