scratch that, that a modern economy has a power outage at all is fucking wild to me, the last time a region of my country lost power for longer than a few minutes was 1970
Bro but It might be necessary for many reasons. If you want to change ur CPU on the same motherboard, some motherboard would need a bios update in order to work with the cpu. It can sometimes also fix vulnerabilities and secure ur pc more. I've also updated my bios and it apparently said that it had fixed some vulnerabilities on my pc.
@@TheSmilePerson yeah you are completely right but I want to say that most of the people don't know how to properly update BIOS if they are curious then they can give to a computer shop and get done.
That's what UPS is for. They arent even that expensive considering the price of a computer in south africa or any other country with bad electrical power.
@@tabby656 Actually your supposed to keep a laptop plugged in during a bios update and if you have a power cut and it switches to battery it can still crash the bios installer because it's the MB that controls the switching between the 2 i have had to fix this it's not actually that hard to fix a couple of jumper wires to a USB or Serial Flashing hardware and flash the chip from another working system.
@@Jake_Gotthard well as son i ask politely as possible "mom did you unplug my pc" And she answers yes"why you unplug it, you can see there's windows update don't turn off power" And yes my mom started angry it's waste electricity bill if you don't used it. Well she can't shutdown normally because there loading screen windows updated
Also this happens when you plug it out when it's updating for windows as it just can't do anything and BSOD's, although that's only your data, not your entire MOTHERBOARD
Happened to me back in 1999 during a planned power outage during a construction work - just forgot it. Luckily a friend has the same motherboard and the BiOS Chips where interchangeable at the time. So booted up flashing tool from floppy with the working Chip/Motherboard, hot swapped BIOS Chip, started Flash Program and my motherboard was recovered.
All motherboards should come with dual bios as off 2023. Sometimes it doesnt even require a thunderstorm and the power goes out unexpectedly. Best way is to plug your pc on a generater while doing bios. But even then, bios can bug out and get corrupted for what ever who knows reason. Never update bios. Risk is over 9000.
Then the bios ic has to be flashed with external hardware. For this you need a flash tool which you clip onto the ic. If you manage to rewrite the bios like this, you're back in business.
@@WaterMelonS1 depending on the chip and the clamp you get, it can be difficult. I had to hold the clamp on the chip to get proper contact while flashing. The alternative is to remove the chip and flash it out-of-circuit then resolder it, if you have the right parts.
@@kellyq21 I definitely don't have the right parts to flash it out of circuit, but we'll see. either way the only thing i lose is a cheap b450 that already thought was almost beyond repair.
Get a UPS. Inexpensive ones cost ~200$ which is the same price as a high end MB. The UPS I got also monitors for voltage drops and htz changes which helps prevent damage that'll get past a surge protector. I set my PC to sleep as soon as it's on battery so it'll stay alive for several days instead of a half hour. My UPS saved me 2 hours of game development when a storm downstream caused a power outage
I bricked my board doing that once, but you can buy clips that attach to the bios chip and let you reflash the mainboard. Wasn't easy but worked in the end.
Finally someone said this, people don't have to replace their motherboard all the time. Sometimes they can flash it with clips like you, or they can replace the cmos chip if it's in a convenient place.
For most boards you can just buy a flasher/Programmer and flash the bios directly over some pins on the motherboard. Even if there is no firmware at all installed 😉
I'd say it depends where you live, in more powergrid stable areas it's not a necessity but always an additional layer of redundant safety (redundant being a positive thing here).
@@quintiaxim an electrician and i would honestly recommend a ups and surge protection for most electronic equipment/devices. The power grid is reliable until its not this also goes for the electrical system in your home. Trust me many electrical systems in homes are literally being held up by tape.
Get yourself a UPS system (backup battery), they start around $70...if your power is unreliable then you need it...where I live I'm good, never had one so far.
@@Abdullah_ibn_Sayyadyou aren't powering a typical home for hours for $200. That'll be a good UPS to power your computer, but a house you are talking thousands
you can reflash the bios with a bios programmer that could be bought online. it connects to the bios chip and another pc so that you can flash the bios, you don't have to throw the motherboard for that reason alone if it's an expensive board or if u don't have enough money to replace it.
@@elmariachi5133you can use a test clip to connect to the flash chip, it's not perfect but it works for this scenario, definitely better than buying a new motherboard
For me this isnt a problem since my pc is connected to an ups, so even if the power went out I still have 30mins of power, enough time to finish an update...
Most BIOSs have an emergency recovery feature. Like putting in a flash drive with the firmware with the right filename and keeping some keys pressed while powereing on and such.
I was scrolling in the hope to find this correct answer, thank you! in fact the thing in the video is not even a BIOS but the newer cousin "UEFI" - But yes, BIOSes usually have a recovery feature since over 20 years. Too bad that videos with tons of wrong claims is successful on youtube today :(
@@nafcomits not that wrong claims are beneficial, but that people are more willing to consume quicker, simpler information even if its incorrect and hiding some facts. Believe me, learned the hard way, that less you clarify the better.
@@shawermus incorrect info cannot be justified by that. Wrong is still wrong. Putting facts into shorts doesn't make them more rightful because more people are willing to consume them. If what you consume is false info, then better not to consume at all.
This happened to me once. I had to manually reprogram the Bios chip with a device called CH314A. Thank God it worked and the device only cost around 5 bucks.
@@benmahdjoubharoun1467 Actually, you're in luck. Your motherboard comes with a DIP BIOS chip. These chips are designed with pins that fit into sockets, and they're not soldered onto the motherboard. This means they can be easily replaced. Online vendors sell them for around 5 to 15 bucks each. While it's possible to reprogram your chip manually, the process is quite complex and demands a considerable amount of effort.
if this happens you can just take the motherboard to a specialist and have him flash the bios for you. this is usually done with special equipment that hooks directly to the bios chip instead of using a usb drive. the bios chip can also be replaced.
@@RaincloudTheDragonXDis there a tool I can use from home to get a new bios? My laptop recently updated it, but shut off mid process for no reason and won't post anymore. Powers on, but second light indicating boot never flashes. Please help. HP support said its a 200 usd physical fix, but I think it's a load of crap
I also recognize the song, but dont remember where does the music come from. I searched for it and I remember, it is from gravity fall, and also I remembered that I haven't watched the series. I once watched some episodes on Netflix while accompanying my little nephew, then his mom immediately turned the tv off telling that it is not appropriate to watch for minors. I will watch it soon, my friend told me it is that good
Literally is the best show that i have ever seen and I always recognize the music when it's in the background of anything bc it's so distinct and awesome
In the past, yes this was easily possible. On modern UEFI boards, not so much. Modern UEFI boards started storing more than just the board firmware in them, so unless you have a clean dump of the chip before the snafu, you're still going to be hosed. I've seen boards with BOARD SPECIFIC configuration data, that only belongs to your board and nothing else. They also sometimes combine multiple ROMs in a single ROM, like they'll also store the Ethernet PHY ROM, and any other device that needs a firmware on the board in a single ROM. But even before all of that, getting the EEPROM to be programmed is a whole headache on its own. Some boards you can get away with one of those cheap clip programmers, but many you can't. You'll have to desolder the chip, because the SPI bus on the board is dragged down so the programmer can't interface with the chip.
@@dreamescence If you're unlucky enough to have one of those stuffed UEFI ROMs, best way would be to RMA it and have the manufacturer reflash it for you.
@@HoloScope Good for you. I've had a couple of B550 boards that had a multiplexed ROM image that weren't directly flashable with either a clip on programmer, or removing the EEPROM and putting it in my programmer. The firmware images provided were smaller than the EEPROM, meaning that the flashing software picked the image apart and put it wherever it needed to go in the EEPROM. In my case, I just ended up RMAing the boards back to the supplier and getting them to send new boards with the correct firmware needed for the CPU I was running. And before you say it, no, these boards did not have any "flashback" or other recovery options to get a new firmware on the board. The B550 boards I bought advertised support on the box that they supported Ryzen 5000 series processors out of the box, but were shipped from the factory with an ancient firmware that didn't, it only supported Ryzen 3000 chips. So I was stuck because the only other Ryzens I had were a 1500x, 2400G and a 2700x, none of which worked to boot the board.
@@AmnatTRI haven’t done any research on this, but I only know of devices that clip on, and then connect to a computer, where you can flash the bios chip presumably through a serial connection. What is a SOIC clip, is it what I just mentioned or is it a standalone device?
@@alexfinns6162 As far as i know, SOIC chip is used to store the BIOS. If your BIOS is corrupted, you need to remove the SOIC chip (if flashing it while it is attached to the motherboard is not possible) from your motherboard (the one that holds the corrupted motherboard) and either re-flash it using the correct BIOS or get a different SOIC chip (who holds correct and uncorrupted BIOS) and solder it to the motherboard. All of these require special tools and knowledge, of course. You need tools to solder and desolder the SOIC chip (if flashing it while it is on the motherboard is not possible) and another tool to flash the SOIC chip. If the SOIC chip is destroyed beyond repair, you can just use a different SOIC chip, while it is troublesome to fix, it is not impossible. Just make sure to find someone who knows what he/she is doing.
It is recoverable, done several times on desktops and on laptops. If the board has no recovery system or that system is not working it is needed to tahe the flash chip, program it with a bios for that board ( note normaly the bios you take from the website is not the full bios, may need to be rebuilt.)
No one need to worry about it. As it stated in the video most of the modern mobos are coming with usb flash option where you can flash you bios from a usb. Flash it from usb and install the update and you are done.
I had the same issue once, but there's actually a way to revive your motherboard from it, however it's really hard. So you will have to rewrite the chip itself with a specialized tool that you connect to laptop and using a program it checks for corruption and than fixes it
I just buy a broken motherboard from ebay and desolder that one's chip and resolder it on the bricked board there are a shit ton of motherboards that just get cracked all the time never failed to find one yet out of the 3 times for desktop chips and 2 times for laptop chips I've done it lol also a lot of companies will sell just a bios chip if you search enough then just need to be semi ok at soldering.
@@Babbages If you're at that level then it's probably easier and faster to just buy a ch341a and flash the chips And you know it's 100% working and compatible
@@Fevwy doing that would make sense, especially at that cheap I remember ones like that being way more than that a few years ago lol. They're relatively easy to replace actually tho most are only 8 pins a lil pin cuts or bar drag soldering to remove or can just go the 45$ hot air station n tweezers route plus there easy to solder back in but I do replace HDMI ports and charger ports on phones and mod chips and stuff like that lol. but yeah that's over a 23-year span I've only come across 5 bricked and 2 were my own dumb fault.
The bios can be fixed by reprogramming the chip, but it is very complicated and time-consuming, and it will surely be very expensive. Conclusion: Just don't disconnect the computer during a bios update.
I know it's a joke +he didn't specify the "direct way to flash", but didn't you listen to the part where he said "currently bricked"? which perfectly fits the definition as he didn't specify an extend. ('hard' bricked means "basically impossible to repair", "soft" means "can be serviced by s.o. qualified).
That's why I find it very important to have a battery setup. There are ones you can get at best buy that lasts for an hour. Saved my brother's pc once where the power went out during a bios update.
Wait can you actually get Battery's for Case PC's? My power always goes out and Its the stupidest thing that all computers don't have a backup battery like laptops. I just never heard about it being done.
@@horriblypink They've been around for years, they are called UPS and they are different kinds, cheaper one can give you a few minutes to an hour. But it all depends on your needs.
i was always terrified of this happening. and it actually did, we had a power outage while my BIOS was updating and i almost had an actual heart attack since it was the only device i had apart from my phone and i treated it with care. thank GOODNESS i have a laptop because it didn't turn off and just stayed at the same progress until the power came back on and automatically connected to the wifi and completed the update
My neighbour's honest reaction (he has a powerful saw table thingy that may cause enough power fluctuation to trigger undervoltage protection on my power stabilizer)
@@MihaelTurina This is why I only update bios if I have an UPS available with good batteries.. If don't have an UPS, it's better don't update bios.. 😅
That is why one of the main pieces to buy along with the power supply is always a Nobreak, since this prevents the computer from turning off and receiving damage from spikes or low voltage.
This did in fact happen to me once. No power outage, but a failed flash rendering my motherboard inoperable. Fortunately, I was in posession of another motherboard of the exactly same type, and BIOS eeproms in those days were in a removable socket. So what I did was boot up the other motherboard, got the eeprom out while it was running, put in the failed bios eeprom and restarted the flash. It worked, and I got two working motherboards again :-D
@@jobin100 Imagine my relief! I was pretty happy with it, as it was quite an expensive motherboard at the time and for a moment I thought I had bricked it...
@@HardWhereHero In my case it was Intel. But we're talking 20 years ago, no idea wether there are still removable eeproms around. It was common back in the day.
And that’s why you should buy a motherboard with bios security! Or you could get the bios chip and flash it by connecting it to a reader but you need to have experience in soldering.
Some motherboards have a dual BIOS, but best practice is not to let this happen, buy a UPS if your power is unstable. When flashing a BIOS you temporally delete the BIOS and then re-write it. If you loose power, your solid state chip that holds the BIOS is empty, hence no boot up.
A good quality UPS is the solution. It is basically a big backup battery. If you are using a laptop, provided your battery has a decent charge in it you can relax a lot as this acts as a UPS, full name is an Uninterruptible Power Supply.@@meghanachauhan9380
@@meghanachauhan9380 They did like 10 years ago, many motherboards (including those without dual BIOS or flashback) have separated the flash component so in the event the BIOS gets bricked, you can still reflash it. I assume the motherboard in this video is more than a decade old and that's why it didn't have this feature.
As the first reply suggested, buy an inverter lmao or a UPS (... still technically an inverter with an internal battery) Cheaper than doing brain surgery to unbrick your bricked motherboard
This is awful advice. BIOS updates are often required for RAM compatibility or to fix other various issues. On my new build, I wasn’t able to overclock my RAM to the advertised speeds until I updated the BIOS.
There is actually a way to save a bricked BIOS, but it's much more advanced Long story short, you can use a specialized "crocodile" cable to manually reprogram the BIOS chip itself
Back in the day - motherboards used to come with removable bios chips. If this happened, you could remove it and reflash with a bit of kit. These days the best you can hope for is a dual or backup bios that kicks in if it detects a post failure. my backup bios is read-only and all it does it take you back to the reflash page so you can try again. Simple
@@309electronics5Flashback isn’t guaranteed to work. I know. I’ve had TWO MSI motherboards brick themselves while updating the BIOS to the point that even the flashback function refused to work.
@@StolenJoker84 some motherboards will require that cpu or/and ram is removed during bios flashback. Often also they will refuse to recognize anything but FAT file system (not FAT32) and you may have to create small (few megabytes) partition on your flash drive for it to work.
For some reason I thought that all components attached the mobo are fucked if the power goes out during a BIOS update. Glad to know that is a significantly less expensive issue if it does happen. Might still invest in a UPS though, who knows
There is still options, even if it doesn’t have a dual bois you can buy a bios chip that goes to your board and de-solder the old bricked chip on your board and solder the new one in its place. They also make chip programmers that you can use to reprogram the chip directly they make some that are like 10$ maybe even less and they make more capable ones for like 70$.
adding some info. msi motherboard usually have pin header to reflash the bios called JSPI. so you can reflash it without any soldering required only need to connect into flash programmer like ch341a for example
@@agentflemme I definitely had to hot flash a BIOS for another board way back many years ago when I had 2 completely different boards with removable ROMs.
This is why you always ALWAYS use a UPS (no not the courier service, the Uninterrupted Power Supply). Not only does it save your computer dying to random fluctuations from the city power line, it can also save you from THIS ever happening.
The UPS will only protect you up to a certain frequency. If you have current or voltage coming in at higher frequencies such as with a lightning strike, the UPS will just allow them through. Nonetheless, having a UPS is better than not having one.
It depends where you live ... On a server with a dual power supply, you may want to connect each PS to a different UPS, or if you only have one, put one supply directly on the network and the other on the UPS. But for a desktop, it doesn't increase your chances of success. Why ??? Because in my country for example (Belgium), I had only four unexpected outages in more than 20 years of carreer, but I had more than 4 UPS (some were Eaton, some were APC) that randomly died without prior notification. And yes, I take proper care of their batteries and I usually only replace the battery of a UPS once in it's lifetime, so for the next time, I change the UPS as well as it's then above 7-8 years old.
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You can usually also re-flash the BIOS using a serial adapter.
Ye but its nightmarish to do. I have fucked around with serial before its like navigating a new planet or something, like nothing is clearly documented about it. Had a bricked microcontroller, had to use both 5V and 12V through a transistor to high voltage reprogram the bootloader. Also rooted my phone, it got bricked because of broken firmware, had to reflash the os through adb, and scoured the internet for 12 hours straight to find a good tool to write the fw
New fear unlocked :
Power outage during BIOS update
This has been already on my list of fear since 15 years ago.
@@rinazusa2282 I already knew that it would be a problem but didn't expect it to be a "buy new motherboard" problem
its normal in Bangladesh
Its a trauma now 🥲
lol good thing I flashed my mobo last night before I saw this video, otherwise I'd be shitting bricks the whole process
bios update during a thunderstorm is the real pursuit of a daredevil
Dping it in north cyprus is bad😊
Not if you has an UPS
Done it 💀💀💀
Power was out for 5 times on that day, after an hour of not having power outage, i updated bios and for the love of God, i succeed 💀
nothing makes me realize the united states is a third world country more than realizing you have power outages during thunderstorms
scratch that, that a modern economy has a power outage at all is fucking wild to me, the last time a region of my country lost power for longer than a few minutes was 1970
“Everyone is an atheist until they start updating their BIOS”
-Sun Tzu, Art of Computers
Lol 😂😂😅
Underrated fr
lmao!! I am stealing this!!
@@ChairmanMeow1good luck
Not everyone
Pro tip : use UNINTERRUPTED POWER SUPPLY
Ultra pro tip : NEVER UPDATE YOUR BIOS
Bro but It might be necessary for many reasons. If you want to change ur CPU on the same motherboard, some motherboard would need a bios update in order to work with the cpu. It can sometimes also fix vulnerabilities and secure ur pc more. I've also updated my bios and it apparently said that it had fixed some vulnerabilities on my pc.
@@TheSmilePerson yeah you are completely right but I want to say that most of the people don't know how to properly update BIOS if they are curious then they can give to a computer shop and get done.
@@TheSmilePersonI haven’t updated my BIOS version since 2022
@@catlover281mine is on hold since 2018
Don't fix what ain't broke. Unless you need too. Don't do it
Flashing a Bios in South Africa be like playing russian roulette
Had to do them like that?
In Egypt it would be a Russian roullette with 5 bullets in
@@mego2185 😂is Egypt that bad?
Lmao true
That's what UPS is for. They arent even that expensive considering the price of a computer in south africa or any other country with bad electrical power.
The cheapest way to brick a computer.
*motherboard, and if u not such a lazy ass, u still can "repair" bios thru jumper connected to a bios chip
Although is kinda dangerous if you do a bios update and your power goes off
@@fjerez2591use a laptop
Having to upgrade your cpu to actually update your mobo bios has left the chat.
@@tabby656 Actually your supposed to keep a laptop plugged in during a bios update and if you have a power cut and it switches to battery it can still crash the bios installer because it's the MB that controls the switching between the 2 i have had to fix this it's not actually that hard to fix a couple of jumper wires to a USB or Serial Flashing hardware and flash the chip from another working system.
"DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME"
Proceeds to try it in the backyard 🗿
😂🤣🤣🤣
"Dont Pull the Plug while Update"
-Electricity Randomly shuts off
The worst nightmares of pc 💀
Laptops : Hmmm, now who's the king
PC : RRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH-
*power outage*
This motherboard's sacrifice will never be forgotten. Now we know.
bios reflash though requires solder
@@ChrisTian-sd5yqit was a dual bios mobo.
@@ChrisTian-sd5yq There's an alligator clip version as well no neeed to remove the chip from the motherboard.
RIP partner 😢
100th comment like!
Pro tip, never update during a thunderstorm
Or a heatwave, or a windy day...
@@ganr1277don't understand what a windy day will do but ok 👍
@@Cozy186maybe like blow a tree branch Into a power line?? Like you dense or something
@@user-white007He/she Just asked What a windy day will do No need to Insult someone just because they asked
@@ganr1277well then when to update lol ? In my region it’s 35ºc average in summer, and the whole winter is windy lmao
"flashing the BIOS" sounds like slang for actual flashing.
nerds version of the last day of highschool
I‘m always thankful for the fact that I have a bios flashback feature on my motherboard
"Don't pull the plug while in the update!"
Mom:
It's so related my mom unplugged my pc when i was updating windows and i was in kitchen to grabs some food
Damn that sucks
@@ahmadpochinki1244and lemme guess she didnt take any blame for it?
@@Jake_Gotthard well as son i ask politely as possible "mom did you unplug my pc" And she answers yes"why you unplug it, you can see there's windows update don't turn off power" And yes my mom started angry it's waste electricity bill if you don't used it. Well she can't shutdown normally because there loading screen windows updated
@@ahmadpochinki1244 bruh that's so annoying
bro unplugging the pc while a BIOS update made real pain
I hope i never need to update my bios because my luck is ASS
@@babaloons4887get UPS to make sure your PC is on while BIOS update
Also this happens when you plug it out when it's updating for windows as it just can't do anything and BSOD's, although that's only your data, not your entire MOTHERBOARD
@@babaloons4887Imagine when on some laptops, Windows Update can install BIOS updates... Yeah it already bricked a motherboard cause why the f*ck not?
@@bencetari i didnt know windows could do that wthhh
Laptop users while bios update: 😎
Desktop users while bios update: 🗣️🔥🔥
"Don't try this at home"
Me taking my setup outside😂
Yo we got the same username
Omg whats the chances?
Do u need usb stick? I have one and i don't need it anymore i lost pc after last bios update 😂
Imagine how that one person felt who experienced a power outage while updating their bios
probably happened more than we think
This person, its me. And good bye pc
That’s why you get a ups
Yup. Pretty poor software/hardware design if you ask me.
Happened to me back in 1999 during a planned power outage during a construction work - just forgot it. Luckily a friend has the same motherboard and the BiOS Chips where interchangeable at the time. So booted up flashing tool from floppy with the working Chip/Motherboard, hot swapped BIOS Chip, started Flash Program and my motherboard was recovered.
Note: NEVER update your bios during a thunderstorm!!!
dont u have inverter
Inverter is not a power surge protector. Those are seperate.
HOW??? If you need to FLASH it
Get a ups .
@@Blast-Forward Underrated comment
The gravity falls music made me think bill cipher was gonna appear
Imagine power turn off moment your updating bios
( new fear unlocked 💀)
That hopeless feeling when you have an UPS but it has only 3 minutes of useful life and the update is stuck at 60%.
The hopeless feeling when you have a UPS which doesn't always work and sometimes can shut down your PC as soon as the power goes out
@@FadedWorld. this happened to me at work from home setup.. needless to say my supervisor gave me a hell of a sermon hahah
Guys just learn to do maintenance on lead acid batteries, your UPS won't die!
this is why you splurge on the bigger models, under 300 bucks for 12mn of lifetime with 5-6 machines plugged in is a steal
pray that the power comes back on
No one remains an atheist while updating bios!
😅😅
Gold 😂
For real 😆
Love this
Everyone be like 🛐
I had that. There was absolutely no problem. I turned the pc back on, the bios had to repair itsself for some minutes and it worked perfectly fine
Computer: I'm bricked 😏
When the update is about 99% and the power goes out:
No different than it would be at 1%…
@@alexfinns6162that's the point. Dummy
@@alexfinns6162 no it's totaly different, one is universes intervention, other one is universe fucking with you
I'd say that at 99% there is a slim chance that it might boot and allow you to re-flash
All motherboards should come with dual bios as off 2023.
Sometimes it doesnt even require a thunderstorm and the power goes out unexpectedly.
Best way is to plug your pc on a generater while doing bios. But even then, bios can bug out and get corrupted for what ever who knows reason.
Never update bios. Risk is over 9000.
Then the bios ic has to be flashed with external hardware. For this you need a flash tool which you clip onto the ic. If you manage to rewrite the bios like this, you're back in business.
Ok yeah, I knew it didn't have to be final. I mean at the end of the day, as long as the hardware is intact, software can be replaced.
dude you may or may not have just saved me a motherboard.
@@WaterMelonS1 depending on the chip and the clamp you get, it can be difficult. I had to hold the clamp on the chip to get proper contact while flashing. The alternative is to remove the chip and flash it out-of-circuit then resolder it, if you have the right parts.
can you explain in simple terms
@@kellyq21 I definitely don't have the right parts to flash it out of circuit, but we'll see. either way the only thing i lose is a cheap b450 that already thought was almost beyond repair.
Get a No-Break/UPS, just a good thing to have for your computing equipment
for the country's that have it, make sure you check your load shedding schedule before doing one of these
I've never been more scared of a power outage
@goofyahhcat160i do gamed so hard on it the battery is useless
@thatoneaviationaddict727how is that possible when u have a desktop motherboard ?
just buy it
Get a UPS. Inexpensive ones cost ~200$ which is the same price as a high end MB. The UPS I got also monitors for voltage drops and htz changes which helps prevent damage that'll get past a surge protector. I set my PC to sleep as soon as it's on battery so it'll stay alive for several days instead of a half hour. My UPS saved me 2 hours of game development when a storm downstream caused a power outage
"bricked" just means it lacks critical software that can be reinstalled by a professional. maybe it costs like $50 which sucks but chill...
as an IT technician I was internally screaming NOOOOO NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Meanwhile Electronics Repair School RUclips guy casually desoldering the bios chip, flashing it, and soldering it again
This is so easy to fix especially on the motherboard he has you don’t even need programmer
I red your NOO NOO in indian scammer accent for some reason
@@retineyzer7906Screaming as in frustrated towards elderly woman??
@@itsFnD😆😆😆 "I told you not to refund it on the apple store"
Is that a Gravity Falls soundtrack?
Yes
"Everyone is an atheist until they get a bios update"
So you stole a comment and it’s still just as stupid as the first time it was posted. Good job.
I bricked my board doing that once, but you can buy clips that attach to the bios chip and let you reflash the mainboard. Wasn't easy but worked in the end.
SOIC clip
Finally someone said this, people don't have to replace their motherboard all the time. Sometimes they can flash it with clips like you, or they can replace the cmos chip if it's in a convenient place.
Need a tutorial on that
bro was holding back tears in the end
You've never stopped a pc fan with your hand? Or you just cry everytime you do?
@@sp-ce yes
@@sp-ceI meant he was in tears bc his motherboard died, I can see where you got it mixed
@@abdullahaftab2971 ha had a dual safety bios or whatever it was, so it was not dead.
He has a way to fix it by flushing that’s why he did it
For most boards you can just buy a flasher/Programmer and flash the bios directly over some pins on the motherboard. Even if there is no firmware at all installed 😉
Bro destroyed the computers life support 💀
Always have a UPS, don’t get caught lacking
I'd say it depends where you live, in more powergrid stable areas it's not a necessity but always an additional layer of redundant safety (redundant being a positive thing here).
@@quintiaxim an electrician and i would honestly recommend a ups and surge protection for most electronic equipment/devices. The power grid is reliable until its not this also goes for the electrical system in your home. Trust me many electrical systems in homes are literally being held up by tape.
@@jsb7546 Can fully respect that. It's for each to decide if they want to spend the extra cost or not and take the extra risk.
Are you serious?! A UPS costs around 100€, I could just buy a new motherboard for the same price...
@@imaginerus 1 ups lasts for every motherboard tho lmfao
As a person who ocasionally gets their electricity off or power outaged,im dead.
Same
Off grid or On grid?
Get yourself a UPS system (backup battery), they start around $70...if your power is unreliable then you need it...where I live I'm good, never had one so far.
Get an inverter setup for $200. Provides power supply for whole house for hours.
@@Abdullah_ibn_Sayyadyou aren't powering a typical home for hours for $200. That'll be a good UPS to power your computer, but a house you are talking thousands
From Gravity falls to Past lives is crazy.
bro was fearless when he was stopping the fan with his finger
Imagine your power goes out the second you start one of those updates
🏴☠️
UPSes my friend, exellent bit of hardware and worth the money
Yeah. Scares me, especially since power cuts are pretty damn common where I live. Even just for a few seconds or minutes.
@@lukedavis436but how long does it take for update BIOS?
@@The_Divergent it heavily depends, some take no time at all, others can take as long as 5 minutes
you can reflash the bios with a bios programmer that could be bought online. it connects to the bios chip and another pc so that you can flash the bios, you don't have to throw the motherboard for that reason alone if it's an expensive board or if u don't have enough money to replace it.
Tanks fur de infu
These days the chip is soldered on so unless you have good skills it wont work.
Or you buy another bios chip.
If only so many modern PCs wouldn't have stuopd soldered in chips ..
@@elmariachi5133you can use a test clip to connect to the flash chip, it's not perfect but it works for this scenario, definitely better than buying a new motherboard
Tbh my biggest fear when updating something is my electricity to go out
Yeah as an Indian I've had this fear since I was a child its nothing new because here power goes down quite frequently
Indian has power??😂
This has always been a fear of mine while updating the BIOS on my multiple past computers. Thankfully, I've never had a power outage during an update.
He let his intrusive thoughts kick in and unplugged the computer
Don’t call it
For me this isnt a problem since my pc is connected to an ups, so even if the power went out I still have 30mins of power, enough time to finish an update...
There's a first for everything
Battery backups 🚀
My soul left my body for a second when I saw that get unplugged. Whenever I have to flash a bio, I get Hella paranoid.
Buy a Inverter
Hella 🤗🤗
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My man, I 100% felt uneasy when I saw it, no joke felt a tingle on my spine😅
I HAVE THAT EXACT SAME MONITOR!! NO WAY, this man does a test on my main monitor.
This is why I hate when a company sells a product with a problem that requires bios update.
Sell your product in a polished state.
Most BIOSs have an emergency recovery feature. Like putting in a flash drive with the firmware with the right filename and keeping some keys pressed while powereing on and such.
I was scrolling in the hope to find this correct answer, thank you! in fact the thing in the video is not even a BIOS but the newer cousin "UEFI" - But yes, BIOSes usually have a recovery feature since over 20 years. Too bad that videos with tons of wrong claims is successful on youtube today :(
Which keys
@@KeremTekinoglu-de8ze This depends on which BIOS from which vendor in which version your computer has.
@@nafcomits not that wrong claims are beneficial, but that people are more willing to consume quicker, simpler information even if its incorrect and hiding some facts.
Believe me, learned the hard way, that less you clarify the better.
@@shawermus incorrect info cannot be justified by that. Wrong is still wrong. Putting facts into shorts doesn't make them more rightful because more people are willing to consume them. If what you consume is false info, then better not to consume at all.
This happened to me once. I had to manually reprogram the Bios chip with a device called CH314A. Thank God it worked and the device only cost around 5 bucks.
Here in Brazil we call it an EPROM recorder
*Folks, I did 8 pull-ups on one arm!* *Support please!*
Does it work on a stupid asus p9x79 pro?
@@benmahdjoubharoun1467 Actually, you're in luck. Your motherboard comes with a DIP BIOS chip. These chips are designed with pins that fit into sockets, and they're not soldered onto the motherboard. This means they can be easily replaced. Online vendors sell them for around 5 to 15 bucks each. While it's possible to reprogram your chip manually, the process is quite complex and demands a considerable amount of effort.
This is a good video especially the transition from your regular video music to the sad one lol
Flashing the BIOS is crazy ..
if this happens you can just take the motherboard to a specialist and have him flash the bios for you. this is usually done with special equipment that hooks directly to the bios chip instead of using a usb drive. the bios chip can also be replaced.
it is very costly, they charged from 3k
@@learn_2_earn_. Holy crap, you could buy 10 new motherboards for that!
it’s me, I am the specialist.
@@RaincloudTheDragonXDis there a tool I can use from home to get a new bios? My laptop recently updated it, but shut off mid process for no reason and won't post anymore. Powers on, but second light indicating boot never flashes. Please help. HP support said its a 200 usd physical fix, but I think it's a load of crap
Thank you for helping
I wasn’t listening, I was listening to music, nostalgia hits hard
FINALLY SOMEONE TECOGNIZZING IT
I also recognize the song, but dont remember where does the music come from. I searched for it and I remember, it is from gravity fall, and also I remembered that I haven't watched the series. I once watched some episodes on Netflix while accompanying my little nephew, then his mom immediately turned the tv off telling that it is not appropriate to watch for minors. I will watch it soon, my friend told me it is that good
@@ahmadeverywhere71intro music gravity falls
Yah it's an 8 bit version of the gravity falls theme
Literally is the best show that i have ever seen and I always recognize the music when it's in the background of anything bc it's so distinct and awesome
The gravity falls intro is so fire
This is absolutely a nightmare thought to me every time Ive flashed/updated the bios.
Mans gonna need a serial eeprom programmer now
glad to hear not everything is lost
Honestly was thinking that, it's the only way.
The PC serial killer
@@robiocraft2383well your data and most of your hardware is still fine either way. You'd just need another motherboard if you can't repair it.
ELI5?
You could flash the bios chip directly, Its tricky but possible and worth trying if the motherboard was an expensive one ☺️
In the past, yes this was easily possible. On modern UEFI boards, not so much.
Modern UEFI boards started storing more than just the board firmware in them, so unless you have a clean dump of the chip before the snafu, you're still going to be hosed.
I've seen boards with BOARD SPECIFIC configuration data, that only belongs to your board and nothing else. They also sometimes combine multiple ROMs in a single ROM, like they'll also store the Ethernet PHY ROM, and any other device that needs a firmware on the board in a single ROM.
But even before all of that, getting the EEPROM to be programmed is a whole headache on its own. Some boards you can get away with one of those cheap clip programmers, but many you can't. You'll have to desolder the chip, because the SPI bus on the board is dragged down so the programmer can't interface with the chip.
@@GGigabiteMso essentially throw it out?
@@GGigabiteMI reflashed a x570 board similar to any old board, wasn’t too hard
@@dreamescence If you're unlucky enough to have one of those stuffed UEFI ROMs, best way would be to RMA it and have the manufacturer reflash it for you.
@@HoloScope Good for you. I've had a couple of B550 boards that had a multiplexed ROM image that weren't directly flashable with either a clip on programmer, or removing the EEPROM and putting it in my programmer.
The firmware images provided were smaller than the EEPROM, meaning that the flashing software picked the image apart and put it wherever it needed to go in the EEPROM.
In my case, I just ended up RMAing the boards back to the supplier and getting them to send new boards with the correct firmware needed for the CPU I was running.
And before you say it, no, these boards did not have any "flashback" or other recovery options to get a new firmware on the board.
The B550 boards I bought advertised support on the box that they supported Ryzen 5000 series processors out of the box, but were shipped from the factory with an ancient firmware that didn't, it only supported Ryzen 3000 chips. So I was stuck because the only other Ryzens I had were a 1500x, 2400G and a 2700x, none of which worked to boot the board.
" please don't do this at home" I don't think I can control when I get a power outage
Fun fact and very helpful fact: You can use usbs as bios and try to recover it
Next video: “What happens to your computer if you pour water in it while it’s running?”
Great idea
He built a pc in a pool and used it, dunno if that counts.
He already did it
It goes kaboom
@@ursulpolal5949 no because it’s not real water
Luckily most BIOSes come in a convenient package like PLCC or SOP8 which makes them fairly manageable to flash or replace.
Yeah, any competent computer shop should be able to get you back up and running with minimal effort.
That hasn’t been true in decades
@@GasPipeJimmy you can just use a SOIC clip and attach it to the motherboard. It will re-flash your motherboard
@@AmnatTRI haven’t done any research on this, but I only know of devices that clip on, and then connect to a computer, where you can flash the bios chip presumably through a serial connection. What is a SOIC clip, is it what I just mentioned or is it a standalone device?
@@alexfinns6162 As far as i know, SOIC chip is used to store the BIOS. If your BIOS is corrupted, you need to remove the SOIC chip (if flashing it while it is attached to the motherboard is not possible) from your motherboard (the one that holds the corrupted motherboard) and either re-flash it using the correct BIOS or get a different SOIC chip (who holds correct and uncorrupted BIOS) and solder it to the motherboard.
All of these require special tools and knowledge, of course. You need tools to solder and desolder the SOIC chip (if flashing it while it is on the motherboard is not possible) and another tool to flash the SOIC chip.
If the SOIC chip is destroyed beyond repair, you can just use a different SOIC chip, while it is troublesome to fix, it is not impossible. Just make sure to find someone who knows what he/she is doing.
It is recoverable, done several times on desktops and on laptops. If the board has no recovery system or that system is not working it is needed to tahe the flash chip, program it with a bios for that board ( note normaly the bios you take from the website is not the full bios, may need to be rebuilt.)
No one need to worry about it. As it stated in the video most of the modern mobos are coming with usb flash option where you can flash you bios from a usb. Flash it from usb and install the update and you are done.
This man deserves more than a LIKE.. He just bricked his system to warn us not to do
Why do you think the PC was outside the screen and there was a cut short after he did it? Because he didnt unplug the PC, but his Monitor
@@schnitzelhannes6431He literally showed he has a dual bios...
He gets a different one, where do you think this was posted and managed from?
He’s got a reset button
His motherboard has a direct way to he flashed so it all works
I had the same issue once, but there's actually a way to revive your motherboard from it, however it's really hard. So you will have to rewrite the chip itself with a specialized tool that you connect to laptop and using a program it checks for corruption and than fixes it
It doesn't just fix it
You need to find the bios and flash it yourself directly to the eeprom
@@Fevwyflashrom + bus pirate or other spi interface which is supported by flashrom
I just buy a broken motherboard from ebay and desolder that one's chip and resolder it on the bricked board there are a shit ton of motherboards that just get cracked all the time never failed to find one yet out of the 3 times for desktop chips and 2 times for laptop chips I've done it lol also a lot of companies will sell just a bios chip if you search enough then just need to be semi ok at soldering.
@@Babbages If you're at that level then it's probably easier and faster to just buy a ch341a and flash the chips
And you know it's 100% working and compatible
@@Fevwy doing that would make sense, especially at that cheap I remember ones like that being way more than that a few years ago lol. They're relatively easy to replace actually tho most are only 8 pins a lil pin cuts or bar drag soldering to remove or can just go the 45$ hot air station n tweezers route plus there easy to solder back in but I do replace HDMI ports and charger ports on phones and mod chips and stuff like that lol. but yeah that's over a 23-year span I've only come across 5 bricked and 2 were my own dumb fault.
The bios can be fixed by reprogramming the chip, but it is very complicated and time-consuming, and it will surely be very expensive.
Conclusion: Just don't disconnect the computer during a bios update.
press F to pay your respects
Bios flash kits have left the chat
came here to say something along these lines...
I know it's a joke +he didn't specify the "direct way to flash", but didn't you listen to the part where he said "currently bricked"? which perfectly fits the definition as he didn't specify an extend.
('hard' bricked means "basically impossible to repair", "soft" means "can be serviced by s.o. qualified).
but thats hacker stuff :(
That's why I find it very important to have a battery setup. There are ones you can get at best buy that lasts for an hour. Saved my brother's pc once where the power went out during a bios update.
Wait can you actually get Battery's for Case PC's? My power always goes out and Its the stupidest thing that all computers don't have a backup battery like laptops. I just never heard about it being done.
@@horriblypink it's a UPS (uninterruptible power supply)
@@horriblypink They've been around for years, they are called UPS and they are different kinds, cheaper one can give you a few minutes to an hour. But it all depends on your needs.
finally a excuse to get my mother to get me a new motherboard
There’s a Bios Backup Option and it’s gonna return back to normal if new Bios has any issues but idk if it works in this case
i was always terrified of this happening. and it actually did, we had a power outage while my BIOS was updating and i almost had an actual heart attack since it was the only device i had apart from my phone and i treated it with care. thank GOODNESS i have a laptop because it didn't turn off and just stayed at the same progress until the power came back on and automatically connected to the wifi and completed the update
That was an emotional rollercoaster
It's like a script from a horror movie
You... Freaky bastard... 😉
"Don't turn off during BIOS Update"
Electric fluctuation's honest reaction:
My neighbour's honest reaction (he has a powerful saw table thingy that may cause enough power fluctuation to trigger undervoltage protection on my power stabilizer)
Me with a UPS:
Soolution: Never flash a bios without a UPS, even if it's a laptop bios with a working battery.
@@MihaelTurina This is why I only update bios if I have an UPS available with good batteries.. If don't have an UPS, it's better don't update bios.. 😅
@@ericmamleev Nobody cares
“Everything else should be fine” somehow that doesn’t fill me with confidence
That is why one of the main pieces to buy along with the power supply is always a Nobreak, since this prevents the computer from turning off and receiving damage from spikes or low voltage.
New fear unlocked: Power outage while updating bios
New fear unlocked: posting the same comment as someone else at the same time
@@nathanwhiting5475correction: the one with the most likes was actually earlier.
@@jagjyot4828 correction, the comment with the more likes was posted a day after the original
@@palpatinesfoot1153 *later. my fault it's like 4 am where i live I meant to say later
@@nathanwhiting5475 Not me
This did in fact happen to me once. No power outage, but a failed flash rendering my motherboard inoperable. Fortunately, I was in posession of another motherboard of the exactly same type, and BIOS eeproms in those days were in a removable socket. So what I did was boot up the other motherboard, got the eeprom out while it was running, put in the failed bios eeprom and restarted the flash. It worked, and I got two working motherboards again :-D
Savage lol
@@jobin100 Imagine my relief! I was pretty happy with it, as it was quite an expensive motherboard at the time and for a moment I thought I had bricked it...
I have done this trick on several AMD mobos. Not too many intel have removable bios. THIS SWAP TRICK IS SO UNDERATED! IT WORKS 99% OF THE TIME!!!
@@HardWhereHero In my case it was Intel. But we're talking 20 years ago, no idea wether there are still removable eeproms around. It was common back in the day.
Good old hotflash. Remember doing that as well back in the day.
Remember, it's still salvageable. You will either need a bios chip reprogrammer or solder in a new one with the right bios
And that’s why you should buy a motherboard with bios security! Or you could get the bios chip and flash it by connecting it to a reader but you need to have experience in soldering.
Some motherboards have a dual BIOS, but best practice is not to let this happen, buy a UPS if your power is unstable. When flashing a BIOS you temporally delete the BIOS and then re-write it. If you loose power, your solid state chip that holds the BIOS is empty, hence no boot up.
That is so stupid i wonder why no one ever came up with a solution
A good quality UPS is the solution. It is basically a big backup battery. If you are using a laptop, provided your battery has a decent charge in it you can relax a lot as this acts as a UPS, full name is an Uninterruptible Power Supply.@@meghanachauhan9380
@@meghanachauhan9380 They did like 10 years ago, many motherboards (including those without dual BIOS or flashback) have separated the flash component so in the event the BIOS gets bricked, you can still reflash it. I assume the motherboard in this video is more than a decade old and that's why it didn't have this feature.
@@pixels_per_inch I heavily doubt it's a decade old considering it has an M.2 slot and has a 4th gen Ryzen on it. It's probably just hella cheap.
@@kinazura590 Yup, found out later it's a budget ASRock mobo which is missing this feature. You get what you pay for I guess.
Give the cpu fan an oscar
LMAO
This is why its important to have a UPS
Electrical Engineers ,you dont scare me just flash the Eeprom
Try flashing it directly with SOIC 8pin connector. Find the Flash component and configure it directly.
Very Pro Tips : NEVER update your BIOS.
Just buy a Inverter
That's a dumb suggestion, there's valid reasons to keep your bios up to date, especially if you run modern hardware
As the first reply suggested, buy an inverter lmao or a UPS (... still technically an inverter with an internal battery)
Cheaper than doing brain surgery to unbrick your bricked motherboard
that's me 😂, who need bios update when you get new mother board every year.
This is awful advice. BIOS updates are often required for RAM compatibility or to fix other various issues. On my new build, I wasn’t able to overclock my RAM to the advertised speeds until I updated the BIOS.
There is actually a way to save a bricked BIOS, but it's much more advanced
Long story short, you can use a specialized "crocodile" cable to manually reprogram the BIOS chip itself
Back in the day - motherboards used to come with removable bios chips. If this happened, you could remove it and reflash with a bit of kit. These days the best you can hope for is a dual or backup bios that kicks in if it detects a post failure. my backup bios is read-only and all it does it take you back to the reflash page so you can try again. Simple
Epic gravity falls tune
This is why it's smart to do BIOS Updates while your PC is plugged into a UPS
I get bios flashback in 2023 and have a usb laying around with a backup .bin file
@@309electronics5Flashback isn’t guaranteed to work. I know. I’ve had TWO MSI motherboards brick themselves while updating the BIOS to the point that even the flashback function refused to work.
@@StolenJoker84 some motherboards will require that cpu or/and ram is removed during bios flashback. Often also they will refuse to recognize anything but FAT file system (not FAT32) and you may have to create small (few megabytes) partition on your flash drive for it to work.
@@H0ttabych Well, in my case, even after contacting MSI support and following their instructions, the boards never came back up.
None of us ain't got that cash
For some reason I thought that all components attached the mobo are fucked if the power goes out during a BIOS update. Glad to know that is a significantly less expensive issue if it does happen. Might still invest in a UPS though, who knows
new fear unlocked :
power outage during a bios update 💀
There is still options, even if it doesn’t have a dual bois you can buy a bios chip that goes to your board and de-solder the old bricked chip on your board and solder the new one in its place. They also make chip programmers that you can use to reprogram the chip directly they make some that are like 10$ maybe even less and they make more capable ones for like 70$.
adding some info. msi motherboard usually have pin header to reflash the bios called JSPI. so you can reflash it without any soldering required only need to connect into flash programmer like ch341a for example
Don't even have to desolder it. Just use tiny gator clips attach them to the pins.
If you don't have a dual bios, you can buy some bios pins to put directly on the bios storage and flash it using another device
Absolutely, and it's easy as hell
@@Zebra_Paw didn't said it was easy though, but it works for every motherboard
@@agentflemme I definitely had to hot flash a BIOS for another board way back many years ago when I had 2 completely different boards with removable ROMs.
This is why I never update my bios. That way my computer will never die from a power outage.
Note to self: never do this during a thunderstorm.
This is why you always ALWAYS use a UPS (no not the courier service, the Uninterrupted Power Supply). Not only does it save your computer dying to random fluctuations from the city power line, it can also save you from THIS ever happening.
The UPS will only protect you up to a certain frequency. If you have current or voltage coming in at higher frequencies such as with a lightning strike, the UPS will just allow them through. Nonetheless, having a UPS is better than not having one.
@@xc5103bruh use surge protectors with ups
@@xc5103Most units are intended to counter the absence of power, not noisy power.
Ups damage pc they use Different Waves No square waves Definetely you spec will be fucked up
It depends where you live ... On a server with a dual power supply, you may want to connect each PS to a different UPS, or if you only have one, put one supply directly on the network and the other on the UPS. But for a desktop, it doesn't increase your chances of success.
Why ??? Because in my country for example (Belgium), I had only four unexpected outages in more than 20 years of carreer, but I had more than 4 UPS (some were Eaton, some were APC) that randomly died without prior notification. And yes, I take proper care of their batteries and I usually only replace the battery of a UPS once in it's lifetime, so for the next time, I change the UPS as well as it's then above 7-8 years old.
You can usually also re-flash the BIOS using a serial adapter.
Ye but its nightmarish to do. I have fucked around with serial before its like navigating a new planet or something, like nothing is clearly documented about it. Had a bricked microcontroller, had to use both 5V and 12V through a transistor to high voltage reprogram the bootloader. Also rooted my phone, it got bricked because of broken firmware, had to reflash the os through adb, and scoured the internet for 12 hours straight to find a good tool to write the fw
@@tormodhag6824yeah I'd just buy a new motherboard lol
@@tormodhag6824props to you beeing abke to do all that!
@@johannesstabe9959 yeah it tests your patience. If you dont have days on your hands one shouldnt try it
Off topic but dude I used to have literally the same monitor you have in the video
Felt like a big nostalgia rush
I never update bios during stormy/rainy days. This thing also takes time like 5 min to finish. Scary as hell.