“Anybody who rejects legend across the board as simply being invented is just dead wrong. Anybody who tries to use it as an accurate account of what really happened is no less wrong. Some place in the middle is where the truth is and it’s hard to find.” -Donald Kagan
This is a pretty good vid. As a Christian who is currently studying ritual and culture in the Ancient Near East and has an obsession with the Bible, you did a great job hitting the nail on the head with these mythic principles. Many have proposed many definitions of myth and mythology. I personally like how Robert Segal puts it, that myth is a story that is significant (Segal 2015, 10 -29). It really does many cultures a disservice - from indigenous cultures to ancient religions - when we make the debate about truth and falsehood. Science and pseudo-science. When really it is about the meaning (ontology) and the axiology (the value of things and their purpose in the world.) I find it embarrassing when I see my fellow Christians trying to dogmatically force people to believe the Bible literally. It is impossible - as you perfectly show with Jonah. The point is the theological truths. It's really important that we are sympathetic and cast our biases aside when reading and studying these mythological texts - it has personally enriched my spiritual life as a more generous and selfless person, that's what the Bible ultimately is about.
that's very well said and one of the purposes of the book I am writing is to help people adopt that sort of view on Biblical teachings, or the teachings of whatever religion they were brought up in. Don't throw it out because the fundamentalists can't reconcile their dogma with modern science! etc
I’m a Christian that also considers himself a Buddhist because of how the Dhamma has help me in this life. I almost went to school for religious study, but ended up doing a forensic science degree instead. Religion is my favorite subject and I love learn about what all of them have to offer. The church I belong to is all about interfaith and using good teachings that others have to help you be a better Christian. Love your videos ans can’t wait for more
I really enjoyed this video. I'm not a religious or spiritual person, but I've always been fascinated by mythology as a representation of the concepts and symbols which cultures have ascribed significant meaning. I'm looking forward to your book!
I love this topic. I grew up fundamentalist Christian and I'm agnostic now. Genesis 1, the creation story, is not a science lesson lol. It's about how God created a cosmic temple and put humanity inside it. In my own way I still believe that's true even tho a lot of ppl would say I'm not a Christian anymore.
@@Ragnar638 i don't know how to respond to this because I don't think the bible needs my defense lol, but I also don't believe anything that contradicts the bible. Creationism is an anachronism. It's a response to modernity and it distracts from the true meaning of the Bible
Your definition of "mythology" really resonates with me. It is thorough yet very respectful. Seeing this video drop today was the best part of my day! I look forward to your next video. Thank you!!
Just yesterday I watched your video about Aryan Invasion theory and India. I usually don't watch those videos because it's usually some British or European guy who is telling Indians how their religion, culture and ancestors are just European substitutes and lots of other nonsense. You hit the nail in specifically explaining the points about who Aryans were, I have read a lot and understand it but I never was able to bring it into a concise story to dismantle the Eurocentric/European Supremacist Ideas that are well spread in this field. Also, thankyou for explaining how Out of India theory feels like just an opposite reaction to the Aryan Invasion theory aka a reactionary theory with no real basis other than nationalism or frankly anger/angst. Thankyou very much for these videos. My Interest in this field has reawakened in this field because of you.
aww right on that's awesome to hear! I do think it's possible to just set aside the extreme points of view on either side and just follow the scholarship and the evidence and the cultural history, but it does seem rare on the internet where extreme points of view get the most clicks. But there are people out there just talking about this stuff normally, I had to go find them. Another hurdle is striking a balance between respecting cultural transmission of knowledge and the importance of folklore to that transmission, vs the modern scientific understanding of cultural evolution and human dispersal.
She who is the only one capable of worship, she is goddess of time , who drinks blood , who controls past , present future like servants, who keeps her leg on chest of lord shiva , who is filled with anger , she who have created all these universes I worship her i worship her i worship her . Jai ma kali 🕉️🙏
Loved how you broke down Jonah and the Whale into its core components. I love the idea of religion as a personal guide to self actualization, rather than the basis for like, turf wars and crusades and shit. I don't have as much to contribute to this conversation as I do to the ASOIAF one, but I do look forward to getting more of your thoughts here!! Great video as always, LmL
You are a great meditator, sheer & a explainer too. You are a great Rishi. Loved your effort, so easily you explained nothingness that even a lay man can grasp the concept without any complain. Waiting earnestly for your peepal tree of Indus valley civilisation video. Thank you! ❤️🙏🙏❤️
Your stuff continues to be truly unique and exceptional, David! You’ve definitely found your calling, and know that so many of us are incredibly thankful for that!
This is great stuff, David. This is my first foray into your Mythic Concepts work, and it serves as a helpful - and entertaining! - introductory video. I'll need to rewatch it to make sure I got everything. I love your approach to mythology, and life in general, it must be said. Kudos!
Please make a very detailed video on Lord shiva... He's the most mysterious and interesting character of hindu mythology, he wear a snake as a jewelry, he has matted hairs, he lives in graveyard, many demons worship him etc make him interesting and also mention his meditation
that's a great idea! My next video will be about the Indus Valley seals, and after that will be the Vedic world tree, the Ashvattha - but that has a lot to do with Shiva, so we will be getting into some of his character there. A full blown Shiva video might make sense after that! He is certainly fascinating, and very likely one of the oldest god-forms in the region. I believe most of the idea about him predate the Indo-Aryans.
They say Shiva creates a new universe every 2160 million years, 2160 * 12 equals the great year, to keep us in sync with the seasons we add a new day every 4 years, 2160 / 4 equals 540 leap days added, / the 7-Day week, 540 / 7 equal 77.14, as you see 7 + 7 equals 14, but 77 + 14 equals 91, the number of days in a season. Siva returns like an echo, and Hebrew Shiva mean 7, play 7 in reverse, you here it's say Novus Latin meaning new, play "Novus Universe" in reverse it says "77", meaning new universe, is Shiva known for leaping into Souls known as avatars. Every 77 weeks Venus retrograde for 43 days, 4 + 3 equal 7, Venus spanned seven weeks behind the Sun, 7 x 7, and every 77 months Venus and Mars conjunct three times in 9 months, Men Are from Mars and women from Venus is that old saying, in the center of 7 you can find Eve hiding, between the S'N, the words "Sin Eve" played in Reverse says Venus, in the heavens, Shiva would be Orion, play the words "They All Rule" in reverse it says Orion
@@MythicConcepts I see that Kali represents the disaster periods and large kill offs of creatures, but mostly bad humans/demons...and in these cases, she gets extreme with her anger and out of control, and the only way to stop her at that point, so Shiva(which I see as the calmer part of her personality), lays in front of her and let's her trample him, so to invoke her emotions to regret/ think about her actions before she destroys the world,...and so it calms her down and stopped her... I'm I Incorrect ?
@@johnjuan1139 Kali is our Sun, when it goes micro-nova, a Black Ash Cloud, realigning us with a new pole star, when we roll over, a 12,000 year cycle. September 4th - 8th 2040, all the visible planets will align with Spica, the hand star in Virgo, looking like she is holding a Spear, or a Spiculum, the 8th is the last day of the alignment, the first day of the New Moon, taking place at the feet of Virgo, while the Sun is at the back feet of Leo, on the birthday of Mary, the mother of Jesus. Did you not read my comment, Orion's club (Lakulin, last Avatar of Shiva) is the location of the Summer Solstice Sun, Spiculum is the location of the Winter Solstice Sun, a little bloody red spot, a speculum is used by doctors to look where babies come from, Scorpio, is known as the Sexual Organ, Sagittarius the Hips & Thighs, hiding Ophiuchus in between, as the Womb, as Orion was known as Sah, Sahu "the Hidden One". Go backwards 9 months from September 6th, puts the Sun in the center of Ophiuchus, which is 6,606 hours, I used the 6th of September, the day of the Dark Moon in 2040, because it's my birthday, its how I found that alignment, I saw a chart showing the Solar Sunspot cycle dips down in 2040, before raising again, wanted to know how old I would be when the Sun goes Boom. If you play the words "Say There Is A Guest" in reverse, it says "Sagittarius", the words "They All Rule" in reverse says "Orion" I call Shiva, who they say loved to get Stoned, play the words "Seek Reefer" in reverse, it says Ophiuchus, 3 sevens(777) make a 60 degree triangle, 60x7=420, time to get Stoned, the words "He Knows Dope" in reverse "420". Sagittarius was known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu "The Child", a Healing God, a Dying and Rising god, son of the Goddess Gula, the Harp Star just above Ophiuchus, the star Vega, which was once a pole star. something to think about. John John.
@@johnjuan1139 one more thing, Lakulin was Avatar 28, next is 29, the New Day we add on leap year, play the words "God Is New" in reverse, it says "29".
So happy to see this video! The comparative religion lens is the best way to study global mythology, human thought through history and meaning today - thank you so much for putting SO much hard work into this video. I find the parallels between the Tantric study of Kāli and the Hindu Pārvati striking. Knowing, where they cross over and differ, will always be fascinating; maybe a future video?
Beautiful. Glad you're back with new content. Take your time - this is definitely your calling. This is in essence our story - the story of humanity and anthropology. What is 100% certain is that 5, 10, 20 and 50 generations ago our own forefathers (and mothers) understood and perceived things differently - it's fascinating. Could you please dedicate an episode to Egyptian mythology. I was recently in Mexico and highly recommend the National Anthropological Museum - where I saw a statue of Coatlicue, the Aztec mother of the deities and I specifically asked why there were so many hands and was told that these were hanging from a necklace she was wearing! Just like Kali!
My friend was the one that recommended me your original Ma Kali video and I loved it. Your thoughtful and sensitive treatment of other culture's stories and ideas is really nice and I hope you keep doing what you're doing. I would love to see videos on what you think is going on with Chakarsamvara, and other tantric (hindu and buddhist) concepts. Videos explaining about the symbolism of the cross could also be a really good topic in the future. Needless to say I can't wait for your book either. I hope you're doing well, I know it's been a year since this video was released but I hope you'll read this comment. Thank you again.
Hello David. Absolutely love your channel. The Kali video was sensationally good and you’ve followed it up with another brilliant meditation on myths and their power. You are so well read and informed on this it’s quite mind-blowing. Also, very refreshing in today’s world to see someone brave enough to illuminate spiritual truth and to work countercultural to the zeitgeist of oversimplification. Eagerly awaiting your next video! I’d also like to offer one third level of interpretation to the Jonah myth-as you say not in conflict with yours, just by way of regarding the “object” from another angle: one of the details we’re given in the all-too-brief biblical account is that Jonah’s flesh is bleached white by his time in the whale. Therefore, when Jonah turns up at Ninevah, he makes a pretty terrifying entrance. I think what this subtly conveys is that in a bizarre way, had Jonah not disobeyed God’s edict, he would have failed to deliver the message! People would not have taken him as seriously as they did when he showed up acid-bleached white and smelling like a corpse-pile. Therefore, the story reflects an irony in that the more we try to run away from our dharma or destiny or fate or wyrd or whatever term we wish to use (perhaps we might even say: from ourself or our conscience), the nearer to it we run. Jonah only succeeded because he initially denied himself-denied God. Thus, denial / failure / ignorance is the first step on any spiritual path, in a strange sense. As Coomaraswamy observed: “Myth embodies the nearest approach to absolute truth that can be stated in words.” That absolute truth is not, as you rightly point out, literal, but so much deeper than that! Anyway, thank you again for making an incredible video and channel.
I only knew this video was out because you mentioned it on your live stream tonight. I have been subscribed since the channel came out and have the notification on, yet didnt get one. Glad you mentioned it, because I love this stuff almost as much as George's writing. On that note, thank you for helping me keep my sanity while waiting for Winds Of Winter. I am so hooked on that series that every night when I go to bed, I think about myself being in the story in the hopes I will have a dream about it.
It is important to understand that Kali isn't the Goddess of Time and Destruction, that is true on a simplistic level. Kali is Time and Destruction itself.
Kali in Kashmir shaivism is akin to creativity/freedom in process ontology. For the sages, metaphysical concept were more important in ancient India. Kali is a symbol (important for devotees as a person) but the concept of Kali also transcends as at it's core it is metaphysics.
Haha I like that you did this video although I didn’t take the original video as you claiming the myths to be false But the new religion that has formed around science uses myth as essentially a derogatory term against religion but ironically the very rejection of these ideas as falsehoods when it’s more that that’s how information was handed down in antiquity.. I think limits the potential of human understanding… there is a LOT of value in ancient ideas that science is unable to be used to understand but stories are excellent for doing so. The biggest problem between religion and science is that the majority of people on both sides believe their worldviews are contradictory.. but to me it seems like they are complementary and I also love finding the connections between the two as well because they actually do help you understand both better by taking in both aspects of human investigation of the universe All this to say, your position is sensible and you explained it well and glad to see you back to the mythology vids! gonna check out your GOT content too that I didn’t know existed til today 👽
very well said! Beautifully articulated. I'm hoping that by helping people see the concepts beneath the mythologies, they can better harmonize them with modern life.
Another great video. I don't want to offend anyone, but people who believe one religion is the universal truth and the rest are myths will not get the full experience of these videos. Like the old saying, "you can't see the forest for the trees." Thanks for this great video. Can't wait for the book
Hey! I forgot about this channel. Good thing I checked what channels I hadn’t watched for awhile. New vid here. And a good one as well. The way you explain and present mythology here is both stringent and soothable. Thank you!
This is shaping up to be quite an interesting set of videos. That said, I do think even your definition of "myth" is rather narrower than it could usefully be for a channel with this name. I completely agree that myths are conceptually distinct from "things that aren't true" since it's not the function (certainly not the primary function) of a myth to be "true" or not. We humans seem to have evolved to rather like telling each other stories and it seems to me that "myths" in the broader sense of "stories we tell ourselves to make sense of the world and/or to give us a road map for our lives" extend well beyond the realm of what we in the West think of as "religion" or "sacred stories". You don't have too look hard in the realms of politics or policymaking or even the hard sciences to find lots of stories (not all of them grounded in mere "facts" - a slippery concept whose very knowability is arguably a myth) that effectively simplify how we describe a very complicated universe so that we can make sense of at least manageable parts of it. Keep up the good work: this is potentially a very deep pit you're exploring!
i totally agree and actually I addressed political and social myths in the chapter of my book from which I pulled these ideas - I was just trying to limit the scope of the discussion in this video
8:28, another idea I have heard is that 'being formless and void' could mean without purpose or function, the analogy given was an abandoned building (not condemned) being repurposed into something like a restaurant
So would Kali's sword be equivalent to Occam's razor? Fascinating how many religions and mythologies have the "three days" resurrection story. Jesus in a tomb dead for three days, Sumerian Inanna in the underworld dead for three days, in Zoroastrians just after you die your soul will hover around your body for three days, The same curious notion of death and resurrection after three days is entertained by the Unmatjera and Kaitish two tribes of Central Australia and the Nandi of East Africa. Cycle of death and resurrection after three days like the monthly disappearance and reappearance of the moon.
I look forward to your book! How awesome~ I also write under a pen name, Willow Lovelight. David Lightbringer has a nice ring to it, too. Your videos are amazing, and I'm definitely watching more. I'm really happy I happened across your work! I'll check out some of your other channels while I'm at it. Thanks for sharing~ 🌷🙏🏻🌷
I know you have not uploaded for a long time i hope you're well. Please may i have a humble request. Could you please do a series about Shaktism and Shakta and all the Goddesses also the variation. I know it's alot but information is heavily Hindu as in Shiva and Vishnu centric so i would like shakti series. Information is so rare about Shaktism in engl . That would help alot . Blessings to you Brother. ❤
I am SO GLAD I became so obsessed with ASOIAF that I came across your channel through Reddit and Alt Shift X. And from your first channel, I came here. Your content delivery style is amazing. As someone who leans towards Atheism and tired of deep rooted nationalistic ideas, I am glad someone (you) is out there to cover ancient history, myths around the world, their connections and possible lessons and deliver them in a scientific approach without bias. Kudos to you, David!
yes, House of the Dragon season took all my time over the past months! I've also just hired a manager to help me optimize my work flow so I can maintain both channels :)
@@MythicConcepts thanks for replying...I am so touched by your understanding and ability to analyse our goddesses....I really appreciate your effort towards decoding Indic mythical concepts
I must say that Romani people are the forgotten people from India and I just wanted to touch as well upon that if that’s alright. A lot of people still don’t know that but our Romani language is key to the Indian roots as well. Thank you for ur amazing content and channel im a massive fan of ur work.
daang 😢 only 4 videos.. I would have loveddddd this channel. being it back😢😢 I can talk about mythology, occultism, symbolism, gods, ancient ones, esoteric knowledge, etc for dayyssss. time is wibbly wobbly, timey wimey🔥✨️🧿
There is nothing such as tamil religion.. Tamil nadu have highest no. Of hindu temples in india .. Most of the temples in north were destroyed by invaders.. South Indian kings were brave enough to protect Sanatana Dharma. Like chola ,chera , pandya empire
the reason why Hinduism has been preserved so strongly in the south is because of Muslim persecution of Hindus in the north. The ancient Tamils did have a different religion that was not Vedic Hinduism, although some of those ideas were of course absorbed into Hindiusm
@@MythicConcepts yeah ,but islamic invaders attacked south india too and southern kings fought them with enough bravery to protect temples.. Also tamil empires like cholas went in whole south east asia and build big temples there like angkor wat .. Whereas north indians only went as far as afganistan... And tamil and sanskrit both are civilizational languages of sanatana Dharma, even today the only village in world where people still speak sanskrit is in south india , Many people try to create differences , but both of Sanskrit and tamil coexisted with each other...
I suppose a deity in Vedic or Tantric belief system, is significantly much more than just “mythological concept” per se, instead a deity such as Kali or Siva, is considered a personal manifestation of the Divine that is not only viewed as a mere metaphor for certain cosmic powers and qualities but also revered as a coalescence of spiritual energies to be invoked and established in an entity/idol either by way of sacred ritual based devotion OR regarded as an object of meditation approached through strict yoga practices as a means for self-realisation within oneself. So, essentially Vedic/Tantric deities are as much as they are mythological and metaphorical cosmic concepts, they are also very much a mystical and metaphysical reality, in fact, the latter may very well be more spiritually relevant than the former, especially given 1 in 6 people in the world today are still followers of this very ancient faith. I hope that helps in your further research.
the number of people who are using religion to ascess such energies pales in comparison the the number of people taking religion literally, so in terms of making the world a better place and helping people get more out of religion, understanding that these are concepts is FAR more important that learning how to do mystical woo woo, assuming such is even possible. The concepts are far more important, and far more misunderstood. If there is a coalescence of energy that is "Kali," she'll manifest wherever her concepts are present, not when she's invoked or bid by humans. You "invoke" Kali by practicing the principles, not by "ritual magic" which is just arbitrary
Great video. I feel like it's such a western thing to try to attach literal meaning to cultural stories. You can tell by looking at the "literalization" of Judeo-Christian texts. There are multiple creation myths in the Bible, but modern translations and gatekeeping have worked to amalgamate them into a theoretically "cohesive" narrative.
Great video... though I think there are a lot of religious people who see these stories as literally real. I mean at least when it comes to Gods like Shiva and Vishnu (in those forms), people might accept that they are more like aspects/ideas, since most Hindus in day to day life refer to them all collectively as 'the God' (in almost monotheistic manner), but when it comes to stories of their Avatars like Ramayan, Mahabharat, many get really pissed if you call them myths or stories and insist that they are real history.
Love your videos! I wanna know about Dakini (vajrayogini) next time I request you please :') 🙏 because I tried researching about her but unable to understand her concept properly
Dakinis are the followers of Kali. They often stay with her. Kali transforms into Chinnamasta to feed her own blood to her followers to quench their thurst for blood by decaptivating her own head.
12:13, there's actually some science to that, if you ever watch a debate (assuming that all parties remain civil), the person who uses anecdotes in their argument tends to be far more convincing than the person who just uses numbers, the main reason seems to be that we almost instantly recognize stories and that is how information is best conveyed. I am not aware of any actual study on that, just calling attention to an observation. Myths, as in stories of gods and heroes and monsters and great deeds, seem to be just the most effective and efficient way concepts not required for day to day/hour to hour etc survival is conveyed... well that's more of my own hypothesis based on what I have observed.
I know you only have 4 videos and this one was from a year ago but have you thought of covering the other lesser known Hindu Gods? Like Hanuman or Ganesha? I'd love to see your take on these gods, and maybe even comparisons between gods or legendary figures like Sun Wukong and Hanuman, or Parvati and maybe Nuwa? Idk if they could be likened unto each other, maybe Parvati and a mother goddess like Leto or Frigg? I mostly would like to see the Wukong/Hanuman comparison though since it seems like you really REALLY try to do your research.
Great stuff! I look forward to your videos. However, at around 3 mins 45 sec approx., you say Tamil religion. Tamil is just a South Indian language but yes I think you are referring to South Indian practices that are different from North Indian practices.
“Anybody who rejects legend across the board as simply being invented is just dead wrong. Anybody who tries to use it as an accurate account of what really happened is no less wrong. Some place in the middle is where the truth is and it’s hard to find.”
-Donald Kagan
This is a pretty good vid. As a Christian who is currently studying ritual and culture in the Ancient Near East and has an obsession with the Bible, you did a great job hitting the nail on the head with these mythic principles. Many have proposed many definitions of myth and mythology. I personally like how Robert Segal puts it, that myth is a story that is significant (Segal 2015, 10 -29). It really does many cultures a disservice - from indigenous cultures to ancient religions - when we make the debate about truth and falsehood. Science and pseudo-science. When really it is about the meaning (ontology) and the axiology (the value of things and their purpose in the world.) I find it embarrassing when I see my fellow Christians trying to dogmatically force people to believe the Bible literally. It is impossible - as you perfectly show with Jonah. The point is the theological truths. It's really important that we are sympathetic and cast our biases aside when reading and studying these mythological texts - it has personally enriched my spiritual life as a more generous and selfless person, that's what the Bible ultimately is about.
that's very well said and one of the purposes of the book I am writing is to help people adopt that sort of view on Biblical teachings, or the teachings of whatever religion they were brought up in. Don't throw it out because the fundamentalists can't reconcile their dogma with modern science! etc
I'm glad this man exists in my time.
Absolutely thrilled to see a new Mythic Concepts video! Thanks, LML!
I’m a Christian that also considers himself a Buddhist because of how the Dhamma has help me in this life. I almost went to school for religious study, but ended up doing a forensic science degree instead. Religion is my favorite subject and I love learn about what all of them have to offer. The church I belong to is all about interfaith and using good teachings that others have to help you be a better Christian. Love your videos ans can’t wait for more
I really enjoyed this video. I'm not a religious or spiritual person, but I've always been fascinated by mythology as a representation of the concepts and symbols which cultures have ascribed significant meaning. I'm looking forward to your book!
I love this topic. I grew up fundamentalist Christian and I'm agnostic now. Genesis 1, the creation story, is not a science lesson lol. It's about how God created a cosmic temple and put humanity inside it. In my own way I still believe that's true even tho a lot of ppl would say I'm not a Christian anymore.
@@Ragnar638 What do you mean by that?
@@Ragnar638 i don't know how to respond to this because I don't think the bible needs my defense lol, but I also don't believe anything that contradicts the bible. Creationism is an anachronism. It's a response to modernity and it distracts from the true meaning of the Bible
Your definition of "mythology" really resonates with me. It is thorough yet very respectful. Seeing this video drop today was the best part of my day! I look forward to your next video. Thank you!!
Just yesterday I watched your video about Aryan Invasion theory and India.
I usually don't watch those videos because it's usually some British or European guy who is telling Indians how their religion, culture and ancestors are just European substitutes and lots of other nonsense.
You hit the nail in specifically explaining the points about who Aryans were, I have read a lot and understand it but I never was able to bring it into a concise story to dismantle the Eurocentric/European Supremacist Ideas that are well spread in this field.
Also, thankyou for explaining how Out of India theory feels like just an opposite reaction to the Aryan Invasion theory aka a reactionary theory with no real basis other than nationalism or frankly anger/angst.
Thankyou very much for these videos.
My Interest in this field has reawakened in this field because of you.
aww right on that's awesome to hear! I do think it's possible to just set aside the extreme points of view on either side and just follow the scholarship and the evidence and the cultural history, but it does seem rare on the internet where extreme points of view get the most clicks. But there are people out there just talking about this stuff normally, I had to go find them. Another hurdle is striking a balance between respecting cultural transmission of knowledge and the importance of folklore to that transmission, vs the modern scientific understanding of cultural evolution and human dispersal.
Om jayanti mangala kali bhadrakali kapalini durga kshama shiva dhatri svaaha svadha namostu 🙏
May Goddess kali bless us 🕉️🙏🙇
Beyond EXCITED for this channel. I’m a huge fan and can’t wait to see your symbolism interpretations into real world mythologies
What a coincidence today i did a yagna ( sacred fire ) in honour of goddess Durga and you uploaded video today...
thanks for the extra boost! I was struggling to finish this and get it uploaded, so cheers!
She who is the only one capable of worship, she is goddess of time , who drinks blood , who controls past , present future like servants, who keeps her leg on chest of lord shiva , who is filled with anger , she who have created all these universes
I worship her i worship her i worship her .
Jai ma kali 🕉️🙏
Loved how you broke down Jonah and the Whale into its core components. I love the idea of religion as a personal guide to self actualization, rather than the basis for like, turf wars and crusades and shit. I don't have as much to contribute to this conversation as I do to the ASOIAF one, but I do look forward to getting more of your thoughts here!! Great video as always, LmL
no that's it exactly you got it!
You are a great meditator, sheer & a explainer too. You are a great Rishi. Loved your effort, so easily you explained nothingness that even a lay man can grasp the concept without any complain. Waiting earnestly for your peepal tree of Indus valley civilisation video. Thank you! ❤️🙏🙏❤️
thank you so much! I am learning a lot and trying to relay the meanings as well as I can!
Very nice explanation on the meaning of myths.
Happy to see a new video on this channel. 👏👏👏
Your stuff continues to be truly unique and exceptional, David! You’ve definitely found your calling, and know that so many of us are incredibly thankful for that!
I appreciate your understanding of the term mythology. Interesting discussion. Thanks.
Dave, so happy to see another of your videos on this channel.
This is great stuff, David. This is my first foray into your Mythic Concepts work, and it serves as a helpful - and entertaining! - introductory video. I'll need to rewatch it to make sure I got everything. I love your approach to mythology, and life in general, it must be said. Kudos!
Heck yea! New myths. Every time this channel is updated I just 🎉 also Paradise Gained?? Cant wait whatever name you choose
Very wonderful, and informative. Just like all of your work. Well done, David.
thank you so much!
Was looking forward to this video.
Such fun to think deeply and profoundly. Fabulous experience as always.
Please make a very detailed video on Lord shiva... He's the most mysterious and interesting character of hindu mythology, he wear a snake as a jewelry, he has matted hairs, he lives in graveyard, many demons worship him etc make him interesting and also mention his meditation
that's a great idea! My next video will be about the Indus Valley seals, and after that will be the Vedic world tree, the Ashvattha - but that has a lot to do with Shiva, so we will be getting into some of his character there. A full blown Shiva video might make sense after that! He is certainly fascinating, and very likely one of the oldest god-forms in the region. I believe most of the idea about him predate the Indo-Aryans.
They say Shiva creates a new universe every 2160 million years, 2160 * 12 equals the great year, to keep us in sync with the seasons we add a new day every 4 years, 2160 / 4 equals 540 leap days added, / the 7-Day week, 540 / 7 equal 77.14, as you see 7 + 7 equals 14, but 77 + 14 equals 91, the number of days in a season. Siva returns like an echo, and Hebrew Shiva mean 7, play 7 in reverse, you here it's say Novus Latin meaning new, play "Novus Universe" in reverse it says "77", meaning new universe, is Shiva known for leaping into Souls known as avatars. Every 77 weeks Venus retrograde for 43 days, 4 + 3 equal 7, Venus spanned seven weeks behind the Sun, 7 x 7, and every 77 months Venus and Mars conjunct three times in 9 months, Men Are from Mars and women from Venus is that old saying, in the center of 7 you can find Eve hiding, between the S'N, the words "Sin Eve" played in Reverse says Venus, in the heavens, Shiva would be Orion, play the words "They All Rule" in reverse it says Orion
@@MythicConcepts I see that Kali represents the disaster periods and large kill offs of creatures, but mostly bad humans/demons...and in these cases, she gets extreme with her anger and out of control, and the only way to stop her at that point, so Shiva(which I see as the calmer part of her personality), lays in front of her and let's her trample him, so to invoke her emotions to regret/ think about her actions before she destroys the world,...and so it calms her down and stopped her...
I'm I Incorrect ?
@@johnjuan1139 Kali is our Sun, when it goes micro-nova, a Black Ash Cloud, realigning us with a new pole star, when we roll over, a 12,000 year cycle. September 4th - 8th 2040, all the visible planets will align with Spica, the hand star in Virgo, looking like she is holding a Spear, or a Spiculum, the 8th is the last day of the alignment, the first day of the New Moon, taking place at the feet of Virgo, while the Sun is at the back feet of Leo, on the birthday of Mary, the mother of Jesus. Did you not read my comment, Orion's club (Lakulin, last Avatar of Shiva) is the location of the Summer Solstice Sun, Spiculum is the location of the Winter Solstice Sun, a little bloody red spot, a speculum is used by doctors to look where babies come from, Scorpio, is known as the Sexual Organ, Sagittarius the Hips & Thighs, hiding Ophiuchus in between, as the Womb, as Orion was known as Sah, Sahu "the Hidden One". Go backwards 9 months from September 6th, puts the Sun in the center of Ophiuchus, which is 6,606 hours, I used the 6th of September, the day of the Dark Moon in 2040, because it's my birthday, its how I found that alignment, I saw a chart showing the Solar Sunspot cycle dips down in 2040, before raising again, wanted to know how old I would be when the Sun goes Boom. If you play the words "Say There Is A Guest" in reverse, it says "Sagittarius", the words "They All Rule" in reverse says "Orion" I call Shiva, who they say loved to get Stoned, play the words "Seek Reefer" in reverse, it says Ophiuchus, 3 sevens(777) make a 60 degree triangle, 60x7=420, time to get Stoned, the words "He Knows Dope" in reverse "420". Sagittarius was known as Pabilsag, the father of Damu "The Child", a Healing God, a Dying and Rising god, son of the Goddess Gula, the Harp Star just above Ophiuchus, the star Vega, which was once a pole star. something to think about. John John.
@@johnjuan1139 one more thing, Lakulin was Avatar 28, next is 29, the New Day we add on leap year, play the words "God Is New" in reverse, it says "29".
OMG!!! How had I not seen it this channel!!! You're truly the best ❤️🥳
So happy to see this video! The comparative religion lens is the best way to study global mythology, human thought through history and meaning today - thank you so much for putting SO much hard work into this video. I find the parallels between the Tantric study of Kāli and the Hindu Pārvati striking. Knowing, where they cross over and differ, will always be fascinating; maybe a future video?
Beautiful. Glad you're back with new content. Take your time - this is definitely your calling. This is in essence our story - the story of humanity and anthropology. What is 100% certain is that 5, 10, 20 and 50 generations ago our own forefathers (and mothers) understood and perceived things differently - it's fascinating. Could you please dedicate an episode to Egyptian mythology. I was recently in Mexico and highly recommend the National Anthropological Museum - where I saw a statue of Coatlicue, the Aztec mother of the deities and I specifically asked why there were so many hands and was told that these were hanging from a necklace she was wearing! Just like Kali!
I absolutely love this channel. Please make more!
My friend was the one that recommended me your original Ma Kali video and I loved it. Your thoughtful and sensitive treatment of other culture's stories and ideas is really nice and I hope you keep doing what you're doing. I would love to see videos on what you think is going on with Chakarsamvara, and other tantric (hindu and buddhist) concepts.
Videos explaining about the symbolism of the cross could also be a really good topic in the future. Needless to say I can't wait for your book either.
I hope you're doing well, I know it's been a year since this video was released but I hope you'll read this comment. Thank you again.
Glad to have you back! Only downside to the new HotD season is that I've been missing these videos!
Hello David. Absolutely love your channel. The Kali video was sensationally good and you’ve followed it up with another brilliant meditation on myths and their power. You are so well read and informed on this it’s quite mind-blowing. Also, very refreshing in today’s world to see someone brave enough to illuminate spiritual truth and to work countercultural to the zeitgeist of oversimplification. Eagerly awaiting your next video! I’d also like to offer one third level of interpretation to the Jonah myth-as you say not in conflict with yours, just by way of regarding the “object” from another angle: one of the details we’re given in the all-too-brief biblical account is that Jonah’s flesh is bleached white by his time in the whale. Therefore, when Jonah turns up at Ninevah, he makes a pretty terrifying entrance. I think what this subtly conveys is that in a bizarre way, had Jonah not disobeyed God’s edict, he would have failed to deliver the message! People would not have taken him as seriously as they did when he showed up acid-bleached white and smelling like a corpse-pile. Therefore, the story reflects an irony in that the more we try to run away from our dharma or destiny or fate or wyrd or whatever term we wish to use (perhaps we might even say: from ourself or our conscience), the nearer to it we run. Jonah only succeeded because he initially denied himself-denied God. Thus, denial / failure / ignorance is the first step on any spiritual path, in a strange sense. As Coomaraswamy observed: “Myth embodies the nearest approach to absolute truth that can be stated in words.” That absolute truth is not, as you rightly point out, literal, but so much deeper than that! Anyway, thank you again for making an incredible video and channel.
I love these. PLEASE keep making them!
I only knew this video was out because you mentioned it on your live stream tonight. I have been subscribed since the channel came out and have the notification on, yet didnt get one. Glad you mentioned it, because I love this stuff almost as much as George's writing. On that note, thank you for helping me keep my sanity while waiting for Winds Of Winter. I am so hooked on that series that every night when I go to bed, I think about myself being in the story in the hopes I will have a dream about it.
It is important to understand that Kali isn't the Goddess of Time and Destruction, that is true on a simplistic level. Kali is Time and Destruction itself.
Kali in Kashmir shaivism is akin to creativity/freedom in process ontology. For the sages, metaphysical concept were more important in ancient India. Kali is a symbol (important for devotees as a person) but the concept of Kali also transcends as at it's core it is metaphysics.
Haha I like that you did this video although I didn’t take the original video as you claiming the myths to be false
But the new religion that has formed around science uses myth as essentially a derogatory term against religion but ironically the very rejection of these ideas as falsehoods when it’s more that that’s how information was handed down in antiquity.. I think limits the potential of human understanding… there is a LOT of value in ancient ideas that science is unable to be used to understand but stories are excellent for doing so. The biggest problem between religion and science is that the majority of people on both sides believe their worldviews are contradictory.. but to me it seems like they are complementary and I also love finding the connections between the two as well because they actually do help you understand both better by taking in both aspects of human investigation of the universe
All this to say, your position is sensible and you explained it well and glad to see you back to the mythology vids! gonna check out your GOT content too that I didn’t know existed til today 👽
very well said! Beautifully articulated. I'm hoping that by helping people see the concepts beneath the mythologies, they can better harmonize them with modern life.
Finally!! I've been waiting for you to upload this video for like forever!!
you and me both lol
I hope your channel release video more ; such informative
Another great video. I don't want to offend anyone, but people who believe one religion is the universal truth and the rest are myths will not get the full experience of these videos. Like the old saying, "you can't see the forest for the trees." Thanks for this great video. Can't wait for the book
Very smart! I enjoyed listening new subscriber! 🥰💗
We love your videos!!!! Waited months for another one 🌀🌀🌀🌀 Yay Targaryen. I’m wild for mythology, thank you! ❤
Hey! I forgot about this channel. Good thing I checked what channels I hadn’t watched for awhile. New vid here.
And a good one as well. The way you explain and present mythology here is both stringent and soothable.
Thank you!
more of these please!
"but I will be back this year, with lots of mythic concepts videos"
me, 4 months later: So that was a fucking lie
Please make more videos ….u have got it on point…im an indian…..ur concepts are so beautiful
This is shaping up to be quite an interesting set of videos.
That said, I do think even your definition of "myth" is rather narrower than it could usefully be for a channel with this name.
I completely agree that myths are conceptually distinct from "things that aren't true" since it's not the function (certainly not the primary function) of a myth to be "true" or not.
We humans seem to have evolved to rather like telling each other stories and it seems to me that "myths" in the broader sense of "stories we tell ourselves to make sense of the world and/or to give us a road map for our lives" extend well beyond the realm of what we in the West think of as "religion" or "sacred stories".
You don't have too look hard in the realms of politics or policymaking or even the hard sciences to find lots of stories (not all of them grounded in mere "facts" - a slippery concept whose very knowability is arguably a myth) that effectively simplify how we describe a very complicated universe so that we can make sense of at least manageable parts of it.
Keep up the good work: this is potentially a very deep pit you're exploring!
i totally agree and actually I addressed political and social myths in the chapter of my book from which I pulled these ideas - I was just trying to limit the scope of the discussion in this video
@@MythicConcepts Super. I hope you tell us more about the myths across a range of human endeavours...
Stellar vid
So happy to see this video!!! (First comment out of gratefulness, will leave a second when I finish it :) )
8:28, another idea I have heard is that 'being formless and void' could mean without purpose or function, the analogy given was an abandoned building (not condemned) being repurposed into something like a restaurant
JUST subscribed. Will watch this in a bit. Just wanted to comment to help to say that and help the algogo
Please please please keep doing videos for this channel I’m obsessed
I love this 💝 Thanks. I love your channel. Very thorough information 🤲💕 sending you infinite love and gratitude
So would Kali's sword be equivalent to Occam's razor?
Fascinating how many religions and mythologies have the "three days" resurrection story. Jesus in a tomb dead for three days, Sumerian Inanna in the underworld dead for three days, in Zoroastrians just after you die your soul will hover around your body for three days, The same curious notion of death and resurrection after three days is entertained by the Unmatjera and Kaitish two tribes of Central Australia and the Nandi of East Africa.
Cycle of death and resurrection after three days like the monthly disappearance and reappearance of the moon.
i'd think so as well
Keep uploading man
- I look forward to your videos. Keep’em coming!
If everyone treat religion as u do. Then world will be a better place. (Sorry for bad english)
I'm trying to help people see religion in a more wholistic way, as much as I can!
My definition of MYTHOLOGY is "MY THEOLOGY!".
I look forward to your book! How awesome~ I also write under a pen name, Willow Lovelight. David Lightbringer has a nice ring to it, too.
Your videos are amazing, and I'm definitely watching more. I'm really happy I happened across your work! I'll check out some of your other channels while I'm at it. Thanks for sharing~
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I know you have not uploaded for a long time i hope you're well. Please may i have a humble request. Could you please do a series about Shaktism and Shakta and all the Goddesses also the variation. I know it's alot but information is heavily Hindu as in Shiva and Vishnu centric so i would like shakti series. Information is so rare about Shaktism in engl . That would help alot . Blessings to you Brother. ❤
you are very knowledgeable and present in a great way, please keep it going. jai maa kali
Great podcast!
Not used to seeing your eyes lol
Great video dude. Love me some Hinduism.
Awesome explanation, I like
An admirable interpretation.
I am SO GLAD I became so obsessed with ASOIAF that I came across your channel through Reddit and Alt Shift X. And from your first channel, I came here. Your content delivery style is amazing. As someone who leans towards Atheism and tired of deep rooted nationalistic ideas, I am glad someone (you) is out there to cover ancient history, myths around the world, their connections and possible lessons and deliver them in a scientific approach without bias. Kudos to you, David!
Paradise gained is a great title 🙌🏼
I was waiting for you since so long .... Why so much of gap ?
I guess he was involved with other projects.
yes, House of the Dragon season took all my time over the past months! I've also just hired a manager to help me optimize my work flow so I can maintain both channels :)
@@MythicConcepts thanks for replying...I am so touched by your understanding and ability to analyse our goddesses....I really appreciate your effort towards decoding Indic mythical concepts
Thank you! On so many layers!
Love the content LmL
I must say that Romani people are the forgotten people from India and I just wanted to touch as well upon that if that’s alright. A lot of people still don’t know that but our Romani language is key to the Indian roots as well. Thank you for ur amazing content and channel im a massive fan of ur work.
You explained the concept of religion very wel
daang 😢 only 4 videos.. I would have loveddddd this channel. being it back😢😢 I can talk about mythology, occultism, symbolism, gods, ancient ones, esoteric knowledge, etc for dayyssss. time is wibbly wobbly, timey wimey🔥✨️🧿
There is nothing such as tamil religion..
Tamil nadu have highest no. Of hindu temples in india ..
Most of the temples in north were destroyed by invaders..
South Indian kings were brave enough to protect Sanatana Dharma.
Like chola ,chera , pandya empire
the reason why Hinduism has been preserved so strongly in the south is because of Muslim persecution of Hindus in the north. The ancient Tamils did have a different religion that was not Vedic Hinduism, although some of those ideas were of course absorbed into Hindiusm
@@MythicConcepts yeah ,but islamic invaders attacked south india too and southern kings fought them with enough bravery to protect temples..
Also tamil empires like cholas went in whole south east asia and build big temples there like angkor wat ..
Whereas north indians only went as far as afganistan...
And tamil and sanskrit both are civilizational languages of sanatana Dharma, even today the only village in world where people still speak sanskrit is in south india ,
Many people try to create differences , but both of Sanskrit and tamil coexisted with each other...
@@shauryapratapsingh6052 the sheer scale of persicution north faced vs south faced is lot different. They got attacked too yes but not on that scale
Glad to see another video on this channel. woohoo!
Hello!! Love ❤ it! Thankyou
My love, are you going to upload more videos? ❤
“Eve did nothing wrong”
Love it
When will we be able to pre-order your book?
whenever I've got it almost finished. Just stay tuned to this channel and I will let everyone know! Thank you!
I subscribed your channel you are very underrated and deserve alot of subs 👍
Finally another one, love it!
Please more Mythic Concepts
he's back!
I suppose a deity in Vedic or Tantric belief system, is significantly much more than just “mythological concept” per se, instead a deity such as Kali or Siva, is considered a personal manifestation of the Divine that is not only viewed as a mere metaphor for certain cosmic powers and qualities but also revered as a coalescence of spiritual energies to be invoked and established in an entity/idol either by way of sacred ritual based devotion OR regarded as an object of meditation approached through strict yoga practices as a means for self-realisation within oneself.
So, essentially Vedic/Tantric deities are as much as they are mythological and metaphorical cosmic concepts, they are also very much a mystical and metaphysical reality, in fact, the latter may very well be more spiritually relevant than the former, especially given 1 in 6 people in the world today are still followers of this very ancient faith. I hope that helps in your further research.
the number of people who are using religion to ascess such energies pales in comparison the the number of people taking religion literally, so in terms of making the world a better place and helping people get more out of religion, understanding that these are concepts is FAR more important that learning how to do mystical woo woo, assuming such is even possible. The concepts are far more important, and far more misunderstood.
If there is a coalescence of energy that is "Kali," she'll manifest wherever her concepts are present, not when she's invoked or bid by humans. You "invoke" Kali by practicing the principles, not by "ritual magic" which is just arbitrary
Great video. I feel like it's such a western thing to try to attach literal meaning to cultural stories. You can tell by looking at the "literalization" of Judeo-Christian texts. There are multiple creation myths in the Bible, but modern translations and gatekeeping have worked to amalgamate them into a theoretically "cohesive" narrative.
Been missing that spanish guitar!
Great video... though I think there are a lot of religious people who see these stories as literally real. I mean at least when it comes to Gods like Shiva and Vishnu (in those forms), people might accept that they are more like aspects/ideas, since most Hindus in day to day life refer to them all collectively as 'the God' (in almost monotheistic manner), but when it comes to stories of their Avatars like Ramayan, Mahabharat, many get really pissed if you call them myths or stories and insist that they are real history.
📚 stories are all we have 📚
Hon.ble,,sir we want to know in detailed information about indian Tribes
Love your videos! I wanna know about Dakini (vajrayogini) next time
I request you please :') 🙏 because I tried researching about her but unable to understand her concept properly
Dakinis are the followers of Kali. They often stay with her. Kali transforms into Chinnamasta to feed her own blood to her followers to quench their thurst for blood by decaptivating her own head.
@@amanroy8240 the tibetan goddess Tara and Dakini. Are they both the same goddess? Because they look kinda similar
@@tsarzlolz1984 dunno
@@tsarzlolz1984 may be bcz Tibetan and Indian cultural are closely related
@@sahilsingh6048 yeah 'cause both Buddhism and Hinduism are quite similar
12:13, there's actually some science to that, if you ever watch a debate (assuming that all parties remain civil), the person who uses anecdotes in their argument tends to be far more convincing than the person who just uses numbers, the main reason seems to be that we almost instantly recognize stories and that is how information is best conveyed. I am not aware of any actual study on that, just calling attention to an observation. Myths, as in stories of gods and heroes and monsters and great deeds, seem to be just the most effective and efficient way concepts not required for day to day/hour to hour etc survival is conveyed... well that's more of my own hypothesis based on what I have observed.
you're not wrong
Very nice video
Clearly Jonah’s giant fish story teaches us to proceed with utterly annihilating all oceanic life - for good.
Yayy humans! 🥳
I love mystical things am a big fan ❤
Hey can u touch vedantic indic philosophy as well some day i am really curious about it but I don't know much to get into it
I know you only have 4 videos and this one was from a year ago but have you thought of covering the other lesser known Hindu Gods? Like Hanuman or Ganesha? I'd love to see your take on these gods, and maybe even comparisons between gods or legendary figures like Sun Wukong and Hanuman, or Parvati and maybe Nuwa? Idk if they could be likened unto each other, maybe Parvati and a mother goddess like Leto or Frigg? I mostly would like to see the Wukong/Hanuman comparison though since it seems like you really REALLY try to do your research.
Great stuff! I look forward to your videos. However, at around 3 mins 45 sec approx., you say Tamil religion. Tamil is just a South Indian language but yes I think you are referring to South Indian practices that are different from North Indian practices.
You can explain it through platonism..
when i speak of the concepts underlying mythology, that's very like Plato's forms or Jung's archetypes, yes
What's that figure surrounded by a red and green circle on the shelf behind you? Where can I get one?
that's Nataraj, a form of Lord Shiv. You can find similar things in shops that carry Hindu statues.
Honestly, if this channel was your main focus, I would probably watch more of you. But, hey, thats just me.