✦ sketchbook spread & discussing the romanticization of the art student aesthetic: video essay ✦
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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y’all y’all y’all!!! i am not saying whether romanticization (of an art student or not) is good or bad!!! i’m simply analyzing some aspects of the idea!! stuff is morally grey okay 🤒🤒 there is not a “right” or “wrong” here because it depends entirely on the context and people!!
I graduated from art school years ago before youtube vlogs were as popular as they are today - and while I loved my time as a student, reflecting back on it my experience was mostly just sleepless nights and feeling overwhelmed (side note - the normalization of killing yourself over art assignments is... bad). I think your critique can be applied to RUclips and social media in general - we only see the highlight reel of anyone's life when they post. I find it interesting though that art vlogs follow this same trend when art is an open space to reflect on lived experiences, even the less glamorous parts (or maybe the ones that don't just get ignored by the algorithm).
I've noticed the normalization of literally sacrificing your health to do an assignment recently too!! It's all so productivity focused and it's definitely unhealthy. Thank you sm for your perspective!!
This. I remember loving my college years but also wondering if the shakes I had during 75% of my time there were from worrying about my assignments or slamming a full pack of Red Bull to finish them in time.
There's this book by Elizabeth Gilbert that has a chapter on artist living...it addresses the artist in despair ego... like how we view suffering and barely coping to be apart to artistic living... it's pretty good...the book is called Big Magic
when i first got into art, i definitely wanted the label “art student” because i felt like it would make people value me more, or look at me as “more” of an artist. now i have clear goals for wanting to work in the concept art industry and i’m going to art school to further my understanding of art on a level i couldn’t achieve by self-study. definitely make sure you’re going to school for the right reasons.
love that for you!!! i’m so glad that you’re clear on your goals for yourself and heading in the right direction 💖
I got into art in 2020, and I felt exactly like you. I love to create but somehow there is all this pressure to be something around me, yknow what I mean?
I love this commentary! It's something a lot of people are blind of when most people (whether its the artist or audience) are doing it regardless on purpose or not. I'm glad your addressing it.
thank you so much!! i’m glad people are resonating with this topic bc i’ve been thinking abt it a lot!!
Ah yes, someone finally said it. Not that some people aren't doing great work but I've grown so tired of seeing that aesthetic when i know how stressful that time actually was (sleepless nights and feeling helpless knowing you could do better if you just had a little more time) and as a graduate i can now say to those still continuing their studies to hang in there, you will get where you need to be just not overnight. As a student you will get stressed, you will get overwhelmed - art school is no different; that is, at least while you're trying to make something of yourself. There's plenty you're going to be made to do that you don't want to just like many of you were doing when you were going through grade/high school. Romanticizing art in the way aesthetics do lies and can convince people to continue along a path they don't really want to take. It only makes it more painful when they realize they have to give it up after so much time. But just like other paths, it's a career and may not be for everyone. It doesn't mean that people can't be very successful artists (an opinion that's rapidly becoming more and more outdated with the rise of more digital media/programs).
these are honestly all great points!!! so happy to hear the perspective of someone who has graduated form the school system. even though i did wonder if i was trying to pursue art academically because of certain idealized perceptions i came to realize i care more about doing it for the sake of doing it but that may not be the case for everyone!
well said!
It’s funny I see this when I change my major from graphic design to fine arts lol. I remember when this aesthetic first started forming, and I got so much conflicting advice. It was either “Do what you love” or “You’ll end up hating it anyways.” In the end though, I learned that the only thing that matters is what you really want. Many people want a lot of different things from you so that you can look “cool,” but I learned that the one thing to do in life is listen to yourself most.
definitely agree with the advice!!! it's so difficult to hear your own voice when so many people have input, whether needed or not. I'm glad you're figuring out your path!!
wow, really love the last sentence. People always think i'm crazy or something from wanting to do Bachelor's in Design and not Bachelor's in Technology/Engineering, they would say stuff like "put your interests and aspirations aside and just do 4 years of B.Tech and do anything you want after B.Tech... i"m like wtf... i atleast didn't say i wouldn't go for Uni, i'm just saying i'm going to a "Bachelor's" but in something else and they just don't get it lol.
I just learnt to pity people for the limited view on life, and the amount of resources this generation has,lol.
I also think about this so often as an art student. why did i study art? is it really because it's the thing i love to do and because of my dream of impacting others life positively with it? or because everyone always saw me as "the art kid"? Even so, i like to think my perception of myself is the one i treasure the most. And i do, in fact, see myself as the art kid, too, but i also think of me as someone who can be of someone's help.
keep it up with your videos, i love them so much!!
i love your view on this!! i was always seen as “the art kid” too, even if it wasn’t super obvious (we are all multifaceted, of course) i felt like it was a major definer for me. i’m so happy you’re prioritizing your own perspective!! & thank you 🥺🥺
I love art, but part of me didn't want to study it for the longest time precisely because I've always been "the art kid", and my family thought I'm meant to be an artist ever since I remember. It made me feel like choosing to study art wouldn't be my own decision, but rather submitting to what others wanted me to do, fulfilling their vision of how I should live my life.
My grandpa loves art too, and before that his father did as well. Neither of them had pursued official education in art, but my great grandpa had his own little tome of poetry printed, and my grandpa used to lead a local theatre troupe. They also drew and painted. On top of that both he and my grandma did some off-side one time art commissions, as far as I know. He had his expectations set in stone for me, and I really hated it. I ended up studying art anyway (although I tried going in a completely different direction at first, but failed), and it made me feel bittersweet, because on one hand it was one of the best experiences in my life and it allowed me to finally meet like-minded people, but on the other hand I felt defeated, like I wasn't in control, like it was the only thing I could do and I wasn't able to escape my fate and I was fullfiling someone else's ambitions. It took me a lot of effort to come to terms with that, that it was *my* independent choice and I was doing it for myself, not because others tried to dictate what's "best for me". Usually artists deal with unsupportive families that want them to get "a real job", but I guess the other extreme isn't really a better alternative either.
I absolutely agree with you! I also was scared that I just romanticized the art student life and that I just listen to the people who call me the "art kid". Because I was overthinking that all the time, I just applied for an internship for design (illustration, graphic). I completed my week today in which I had to work as every other employee there and I am now sure that it is what I wanna do!
(Ofc a week is not a lot but it actually made me even more excited to pursue that career and made feel like I have a purpose)
omg!!!! best of luck with your internship! it sounds so fun and i feel like it'll definitely help you clarify if it's what you want to do :))) also thank you!!
Yes, artists are also critical thinkers. I agree that late nights are our bread and butter and we shouldn't be discouraged with what others might negatively say. You have put an effort into something and that is what you should be proud of, romanticized or not. Keep posting!
Im an art student myself and ive overheard several conversations w my fellow art students abt making “aesthetic” vlogs and such and i, myself, watch such content. Although i can never see myself making them myself mostly due to me being a private person but also because yeah, just having this romantic still life frames of your life isnt really what i want to put out in the world. Having all these pretty pictures of what being an art student is supposed to be, skews the whole experience of it. A lot of people aren’t fortunate enough to be an art student, heck a lot of art students ive met arent fortunate period. And it can feel disheartening to have all these amazing experiences that seemingly have been a stereotype that ur supposed to fit in when u cant. I know that a lot of the art student content isnt really meant to be malicious in any way like that but its kind of an issue nonetheless. So thanks for some sort of opening in regards to this issue :DD
honestly!! i want to make vlogs too and of course the people who do don't have any ill intent (like you said), honestly most of us probably just want to document our lives to look back on. definitely the issue lies in both the perception of the audience and how the creator is portraying the experience... AGH anyway, thanks so much for your perspective!!!
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I think that just by filming an art journey, it becomes unavoidably asthetic. I thought it is super asthetic and it looks super professional to watch the artist's hand draw something on paper. It just looks so intentional and it smells of selfconfidence. Then when I made a video like that (livestream) it automatically looked like that too. You might feel like a loser, who just wants to get their assigments done but on came it unavoidably looks cool. I looked at my drawing hand through the lense and thought: "wow I look so professional"
I think that vloggers might of course go a little extra to film asthetically but I think most of it is already unintentionally looking super cool, dreamy and admireable
Thankyou for wording it so beautifully
Totally agree with this! Even when I’m struggling with a piece, my video of it can often make it look like it was easy and calming, even though I was ripping my hair out over it. I try my best to tell people when a piece was hard so that I can dispel the idealization a bit
so true! romanticization of sketchbooks is something that got me a lot. id love to see the sketchbooks people made while still in the early stages of learning, because i think it'd relieve a lot of self doubt in a lot of early art students
me too!! i see a ton of sketchbook videos that are so amazing which can be motivating!! it's what prompted me to starting my sketchbook but i agree that seeing early works would ease the stress of expectations on beginners too :)))
Um...I don't know if this goes with the topic but...I never studied art...well if 2 months of art class in school counts( although all I learned was how to draw a "perfect circle" and " a sunset) well then yes, I studied art. What I want to say is...I always liked art ever since I discovered it, and well, with the little that I had and knew back then (which was basically a 1% of knowledge) I tried to draw and paint. It was not pretty ( obviously since I did know what I was doing lol) but my family kept telling me that although I never took proper classes I was doing a great job. Anyways, the thing is i stopped because of school, and well lest say that after like 11 years or more, this 2021 is when I decided to get back at it now that I had money to buy all you need for painting. So I did, I looked up some tutorials and even asked for what supplies I should buy on youtube, and learned a few things along the way. I went to amazon and bought some acrylics, gouache, the sketchbook, paintbrushes and you know, all you need to paint. I started and as logical, I was not good because I still didn't know that well what I was doing, then got the hang of it and can say now that I have my sketchbooks almost full and have some decent paintings, but when I started to look at painters on youtube and saw their painting and how the projected that life of a painter through the lens, I began having sooo much trouble painting, destroyed sooo many pieces and got so discouraged because I felt that if I didn't learn fast enough to paint like them or at least do a decent paint I was never going to be a painter and there was no point for me to keep dreaming; I forgot that the real reason to why I paint is because I truly love art! that I paint not for people to like it, not for anyone to like it but for me, because that's what I like. when I painted I thought it was a youtube video and that I needed to do a perfect job or I would get judged by people telling me how ugly I painted. it affected me but now I'm learning to do things because I like it ignoring other's opinions and have become more freely when I paint. I don't know if this adds up to your topic, probably not I just wanted to say it... :)
btw, absolutely love your paintings and agree with all you've said.
I felt this! I always feel discouraged and disappointed quickly when I see that my art isn't good, when I just started learning the basics. I quit drawing bc of school and my parents, and my mental health as well. But since I got a new tablet, I have been drawing in it and properly learning to draw the human body.
What you said made me realised I took people's words too seriously and never focused on what I wanted. And I want to keep practising bc I love art so much
Ditto
this discussion is really interesting, I tend to romanticize a little what I do, coming from a developing country is disappointing how people don't really value art, and i knew that when I got in, so I kind of tell myself that what I do is important, we just don't have to be too "dreamy"
nothing wrong with that at all!!! romanticization can be really great when trying to grapple with how you value art vs. your environment that tends not too. wishing you the best with your work! it is important :))
I'm not an art student but I could not agree with this more. I tried to take an art course last year but it just wasn't for me. I work better in my own environment. I'm a self taught artist for abt the last 4 years trying to make a name for myself and a small business which I hope can become a thing soon!!
I see so many beautiful videos of people's painting process and how their stationary looks and the colors they use and when they go pick up new supplies...and it made me think that I needed to do the same. It's very popular and ppl are attracted to it indeed. I'm not a filmmaker though and don't have good equipment for smth like that at all XD But it sometimes paints the wrong picture. I don't have a stationary myself per say. I have just taken over our dining table and have my art supplies random places cause I don't got the space! But to be "a real artist" I felt like I had to have what everybody else have too to earn that title. I get frustrated with my paints sometimes or when I suddenly feel like I cannot draw, or the tiredness from working on smth for wwaayy too long. There's painted this picture, no pun intended LOL, that just an art process is aesthetic and beautiful and peaceful and calm, but that isn't always the case. If you wanna do art well you also gotta build a skillset. Anatomy, landscaping, etc. And that can get frustrating too. So yeah....that was my long perhaps very random speach that was maybe a bit too much but I hope it's not and I hope you know that I find your art really pretty and I liked the video XD
i had the same experience when i was first starting to take art more seriously!! i'd watch tons of videos and make notes of the supplies the artists were using and beg my parents to buy some for me (in particular: copic markers). i had this weird idea that i wouldn't be able to create "good" work if i didn't have the best materials. now i've come to learn that the skills and the ideas are the most important, that materials are just the tools you use to carry your imagination out. i'm hoping we can both continue growing as artists!!! and thank you!!!
@@lemongacha Of course and I am happy to listen to your story!! Thank you for letting me rant lol, and have a great day :D
honestly this whole topic is so great! (im gonna ask this question in my english class isnce we talk about philosophy and im a big fan myself)
I enjoy the idea of this topic becuase so many people either wanna do art or like the idea or art or like the idea of being a 24/7 coffee addicted cafe artist and whatnot,
I 'd like to think this also stems from the idea of the great depression where many artists during that time suffered ehich probably goes into that idea of social media expecting what an artist "should be"
sometimes the question of "are you doing it because you like the idea of it or are you doing it because you enjoy it" etc etc pop up for many like in cottage core, dark/light acadamia, and so on because people love the idea of let's say "working in a pretty dress in a land so far away!" however they also may not like the other realization of "waking up at 5am/6am doing chores milking cows preparing and whatnot"
its the same question that can be applies to everything and out identities because we are trying to figure ourselves out as people still ( i mean look at me i still struggle lmao and cant make decisions n whatnot)
i also like to think that becuase art is becoming popular due to rising in tiktok of last year, then also having many tutorials nowdays that are so easy to find just by a click of a button
I simply think that as art does begin to become popular i also make decisions about what type of art I like
and because i fell in love with art specifically the versatility and how people make pieces or designs honestly I want to learn all of the differenty type of arts and im still trying becuase i just think its what makes me happy the same with acadamia having to revolve with the idea of philisophical ideas and whatnot
man sorry for the long reply!! but lastly study youtube videos also struggle the same with romanticization because of the cafe idea too and maybe it's me but because study youtubers almost share the same thing with artists in its own way, usually they tend video tape ourselves for show to the world
but then from my pov it seems that overbuying is something we both tend to do while also putting on an "aesthetic filter" or rose colored glasses as they never really show the pain that goes through with studying and doing art (and i mean pain as in the idea people look up to us as )
sometimes it makes me wonder if people ever almost lost their identity becuase of their reasoning for doing something that they could either enjoy or are passionate about
for example it could easily be a reasoning, value, etc etc but i mean i know we wnt through that last year which i think art is a way of direction for some people when they can't exactly do or find what they want and so on!
SORRY FOR THE RAMBLING BUT YEAH PEOPLES COMMENTS AND INPUTS ARE INTRESTING!!
modern philospphy amiright
NO don't apologize for rambling!!! I love to hear other people's perspectives! also omg let me know what your class thought if you do :)))
I never considered the historical aspect of the whole idea, so that's definitely something to consider! The whole "suffering for your art" idea really made it seem like you had to go through the pain (and it was even glamorized) to create art.
my personal experience: i actually love romanticizing my life as an art student. its something ive always wanted to experience, and now that i am i just want to enjoy it even when it doesnt meet my expectations. and even though its not exactly what i envisioned, my experience in art school is rly nice! it has its cons but im studying things i care about and i get to be around people as passionate about art as i am. im making a vlog about it as well, just because i want to commemorate how im living.
yea!!!! we love that for u!! honestly i love my experience as an art student too and it's great you're able to balance the expectations and find the joys in the realities too :)))
As someone who makes art videos, and is planning to double major in art, I definitely find myself falling into this trap- I want to make everything look pretty and peaceful, even if the actual process was neither pretty nor peaceful. However, cinematography has become part of the artistic process for me, or at least an expression of myself as much as the art is. I enjoy finding the beauty in little moments. Maybe because we’re artists, we tend to over idealize our lives and “show off” the beauty, which leads to an idealized lens because crying over a painting and greasy hair isn’t pretty.
This is true!! I love piecing together the most beautiful parts of my footage to make, essentially, another work of art through video.
Making this type of content is fine and all.. but I feel like if you consume too much of it you will inevitably feel like a failure in comparison. It's so hard to keep level headed these days. Everyone is blasting their best work at you and most of them are years ahead of you. But that's something you conveniently ignore when you compare yourself.
crying over a painting and having greasy hair lol thats me every week
Amazing commentary! It puts into perspective why there are so many defensive sentiments among people dedicated to the arts ("Don't call me talented, I'm a hard worker!" comes to my mind), and it's because of the ease this romanticization forms; as you said it best, "people already form an opinion as they see the art", bypassing anything the person might say on the matter.
Something odd that also happened recently to me is how, even after graduating from art school long ago and seeing such things with healthy distance, I got cagey over the possibility of being valued as "artist" rather than "person" anyway; watching this helped parsing out why, serving as humbling reminder that creators have to grapple with this romanticization from others even past art school (reflected especially in the poverty wages in certain industries).
Tl;dr: got some observations of how this plays out even past the "art student" label, hope it didn't derailed that much from the original topic!
(I remember how it was to be a student and it was a series of beating myself up for not fulfilling romanticized expectations, but on the flipside it's much easier to see the filtering as a purposeful choice, instead of an indication of value.)
i used to be so sensitive about being called talented vs. skilled for the exact reason!! it felt a bit like nobody was acknowledging the hard work and brushing my work off as "she's just a natural" when the opposite is true.
also i'm so glad we were both able to reflect through this video!! and thank you so much for your viewpoints too!! definitely didn't derail at all from the original topic, i'm more than happy to read through any comments people may have to share :)))
as an art student, I now see what social media perceives us with. it's sad but maybe existing is enough so thank you for this video 💞
Thank you for this! I loved your reflection on perception, performance,… I sometimes wish I were an art student, as someone who does art on the side. But it is useful to remember that online vlogs aren’t the whole story. Excited to discover your channel :) xx
thank you so much!
I realised that I was one of the people, only seeing the aesthetic of those student. But the vlogs motivated me a lot in my daily live and gave things that i was doing an aesthetic to it. But now I learnes i guess that i may just make my own desition ´aesthetic´ and not follow other people´s cause it just looks cool.
:O omg this. This is what I needed. It was a realization that I probably never would have come to myself.
You’ve made some really excellent points here, I thought similar as I recently got recommended a load of these art school videos and watched them thinking I’d love to go too
I loved this video, the commentary was very interesting to listen to and think about ! I’m not really in the art world, I’ve never thought about going to art school or becoming an artist but I love watching art content and just painting for myself. But I think this idea is completely applicable to the fitness world also (and kind of every type of content I think), romanticizing spending your life at the gym and controlling what you eat etc. I think I’ve been guilty of even making the gym my personality and being desperate to be recognized as the gym rat / fit girl to the point where I almost lost my genuine love for working out when the results were not as clear to other people.
Thank you so much for your perspective! I'm personally not too aware of the fitness world but that definitely sounds a lot like the stuff I talked about, just with a different context. It's definitely difficult to separate out if you're doing something for yourself or for others to recognize that you're doing it.
Yup! This is definitely true as an art student it’s not all rainbows and ponies, spending hours every day/week creating work trying to meet deadlines, losing sleep etc, it’s only the second week of school and I already have finished an art project and am starting another one. very exhausting, and on top of that we’d have tests and assignments in other classes like geometry,english, french, etc.
best of luck on your projects!!! i know exactly what you mean too, it’s extremely hard to be challenged in academics and creatively at the same time
this was interesting to listen to because I didn’t know that art students were being romanticized but not I cannot unsee it in the videos that pop up on my dash// I didn’t even know people wanted to romanticize art students because being one was just so difficult I could only think who would want this struggle 🤣🤣 also, lovely painting!!
this video honestly hit me quite hard. i started my illustration/animation course in an art school in september 2019, about 6 months before the world went into lockdown and my aesthetic little art school dream life got shelved to be online for a full year and a half. i spent so much of that time angry and upset that i want getting the romanticized art school experience i signed up for after watching countless art studio vlogs on youtube, but looking back, my art improved an incredible amount during that time spent inside. i'm now in my third year of uni, and only just getting back to irl classes. and it /still/ doesn't match the glamorized aesthetic of the artfully messy, aesthetically pleasing life of an art student that i thought id have, but i'm not angry about that anymore. art school is really just like any other uni/college once you get used to it. it's good to have realistic expectations. you'll have disagreements with professors, you'll have to carry annoyingly boring group projects, you'll have to work your ass off the night before an important exam and want to drop out. that doesn't mean it's not an incredibly fun experience, but you should always check if you're signing up for an art school for the right reasons.
interesting. hey it's great to know that you did improve a lot even when in a situation you didn't expect!
thank u sm for sharing your experience!!! i went through the same thing (though i wasn't an art student at the time of lockdown, i was still doing art... and a student lol) of being so frustrated and just? being angry at the whole situation. i'm also in my third year of uni now and it's wild how perspectives on anything in our lives can change over time. definitely agree with your last statement!! always make sure you're choosing for yourself :)))
As a freshman I put so much pressure to romanticize my art college experience because I wanted to milk it for what it was worth. But then I had the realization that I was lonely, had no friends, I never had the privilege to do art classes growing up to be the next prodigy in my school, and being outcasted wether it was on campus or in class, it had been hard enough. I give up trying to fit in and searching for an idealized version of myself because in the end it was all just pressure to fit in and not what I want. These romanticized college blogs of art schools will never explain the hardships and traumas you will face in college, giving many hopes that they could live the same life because that was me.I suffered through harsh critiques and was isolated in my classes, further leading me to realize this “experience” is just pain and nothing happy about it to be romanticized
everything looks beautiful and i really love how you articulate your thoughts about this ;-;
thank you so much!!
Very well said and done! 🙏🏼 Always thinking a lot about if I do what I do really for myself (as I hope and as I'm trying) or if my actions are driven subconsciously by that kind of romanticization. Really hard to let go of this, especially if you see what you just described everywhere.
Also - amazing painting! ⚘
thank you so much!!! and yes! wishing us both the best with balancing those viewpoints in life :)))
bestie,,,, i didn't read the video title and expected and pretty girls and vibes and not this existential crisis you just gave me
HELPP IM DYIN AT THIS are u good blink twice if u need help bestie
Great perspective. I myself being someone who graduated as a business student and changed majors to fine arts now, have a lot of times wondered if i was doing something wrong because i wasn't painting 24hrs a day and sleep depriving, and still dreading those assignments. But now, i have come to realise that my journey is purely my own and i am allowed to not be ok and perfect all the time. At one point, i was losing the original intention to pursue art because i thought i wasn't doing it right. Though it is vastly different for me now, i hope more people knew little clips on social media doesn't reflect your mental and physical state. Now in this lockdown, i have started getting good habits which will be beneficial for my well being and set my schedule, it revolves around art but not to the point that i don't do anything else. And seriously, taking care of myself has also resulted in huge improvement in my art.
i'm currently a business major too!! i ended up adding a second major in the arts but i definitely understand the struggle with the arts route specifically. when you're under pressure it's so difficult to channel creativity and work at the same time. i'm really happy you've made progress in healing/re-examining your passions!!! we love to see healing and setting reasonable goals!!
i love ur take on this!! im an art student too and i feel like with the media boiling us down to just being aesthetic kids with their khakis and cute tote bags it completely diminishes the hardships of being one. i had to take a year off art school to find my passion again and its something media lacks sadly. im rlly glad someone has also brought this up 💗
ahh thank you!! also hopefully you’re on your way to finding your passion again!
yes you put it into words!!!
As an art student, thank you for putting in words and in video format! I hope more people see this cuz this mentality can be tiring as heck
I remember seeing the title of this video a few years back and getting defensive, but after starting college and thinking about what I want to do, I wanted to come back and give it a watch. Interesting stuff!
seeing this in my recommended is def not a coincidence lol but finally. someone finally said it !! i agree w your critique, and it can also be applied to other media, imo. as an art student, i just wanted to say that i get jealous (although very rarely) whenever i see art vlogs and the artist is seemingly having a stress free time since (in my case) i was overworked, overwhelmed and sleep-deprived 90% of the time bc of the plates i had to submit, and their deadlines were almost all on the same day. i got too overwhelmed that i took too many breaks from my art school, which set me back a year or more behind my peers. but then i remembered that hey, it's just a highlight reel and it will show all the pretty parts. but art itself is supposed to be a form of expression, whether it's 'aesthetically pretty' or otherwise. i'm rambling, but i am so glad that your video found its way to my recommended.
ahhh i'm sorry to hear that your experience was so stressful!! i'm glad that you were able to take breaks (though they must've seemed inevitable and discouraging at the time) but i definitely agree!! i've had phases where i just want my own experiences in art to be like the ones i see on youtube... just gotta remind ourselves it's edited and doesn't show the whole story!!
I think a lot of the reason why artists try so hard on social media is because you literally become part of your work. I have realized that art is only part of the equation. You have to sell yourself. In a way your personality is branding for your art. This is more true for fine arts than illustration,games, pop culture artists, and such. But think of people like andy Warhol he sold a lot of art because of who he was. That is why artists sometimes have eccentric personalities because it sells.
literally marketing yourself to the masses!!! i’ve definitely noticed that, even outside of the art industry that in order to get a job now is tying yourself to your work and bundling it onto social media
i don’t have much to say i’m just listening thank you for giving me food for thought!!
I loved this video so much because someone finally said it!! I'm in thesis right now, and in the past four years I've seen my classmates go through some of the hardest times of their lives trying to just make it through art school. I love art and I have a love/hate relationship with art school, but it's not this pretty "sit in a cafe and take aesthetics pics" all day (there's nothing wrong with that either!), but it's spending days and nights just trying to make work, trying to come up with concepts, creating and submitting work that you don't like, and the inevitable art block that you have to force yourself out of just to submit things on time.
waaa good luck with your thesis/art work!! it's definitely tricky balancing that image of the "perfect" artist lifestyle with the realities of it!
Ironically, this girl is perpetuating the rosy narrative about art students through the aesthetic of this video XD I mean, the saturated colours, serene atmosphere, perfect sketchbook spread are elements of the "art student" persona that you object to.
not objecting to the persona!! just trying to analyze the perception and creation of it. my sketchbook is not perfect and i love creating videos that have an aesthetic i like :)
Interesting idea. It's always a good point to bring into light that in social media, you're only getting snippets of someone else's life. Edited down only to what they want you to see. Not all of it is intentionally meant to be romanticized but there is definitely a trend.
It just becomes harder to see those lines when people consume so much on a daily basis from social media and compare themselves. Social media in general, even away from the "art student" archetype has that effect and is changing the way people perceive reality. It's really concerning as we move forward in time, and SMS are the norm, the mainstream way of giving out information.
It becomes too easy to not see something and believe it doesn't exist. Social media just elevates that. You never know what a person's going through on the other side, no matter what they show on the surface. It's something you always gotta keep in mind and approach life with a lvl of understanding.
wow, this is so disconnected from my experience. i like how the video is so matter of fact about things that are sooo alien to me
thank you for this! everything you are saying is a thousand percent true. all of this makes so much sense. i feel like there is nothing wrong with romanticizing but allowing it to impede on reality is where it gets iffy. i hope to find a way to balance these two aspects of my art journey as i go forward. i hope you do too! :) have a great day
WHAT LINING PEN IS THIS!!! it's the most beautiful thing i've ever seen
(assuming you mean the black liner!!) they're the triplus fineliners 0.3 mm from Staedtler :))
Beautifully said ! Glad the younger generation is still literate..!😁
I loved the swimming lady so much also good luck on your second major 😩
OMG THANK U!!! i sent out the petition to pursue a concurrent degree like last week so hopefully it’ll be official soon WAHH
:0 ooh this was really cool and I loved seeing your process
ahhh tysm!!! 🥺
I love hearing this spoken out! As much as I can romanticize my art project design processes myself, I agree that in some ways it can be harmful and be seeking of instant gratification. Loved this video! So interesting.
wow, this topic really hit home for me..
thank you ˁ˙˟˙ˀ
omg thank u for watching!! but yea i really contemplated this a lot 😭😭
This video essay made me subscribe. Thank you for sharing your perspective! It's refreshing.
Really loved thia video, somehow you put into words something I've been feeling lately... At some point i realized i posted art for everyone else but me in order to be perceived in some type of way... Great spread btw 💗
thank you so much!! and i definitely went through the same thing, and am still getting used to posting art that i love and trying not to think about how it’ll do 💖💖
This is my favourite video essay for the week 🤩 thank you~
this video is so calming, and i relaly like ur commentary!!
I loved listening to your take on it, and I do agree, but while o was watching you draw I couldn’t help but think Uuuu I need to draw some fruits too
Thank you for this content! I appreciate the commentary. I also graduated from art school and man did this hit hard.
Ive came to your Channel again and seing you groß the Channel is maiking me happy
that last line is the cherry on top ✨
It’s interesting. When I was an art student, you tube did not exist. (1996-2000). It didn’t really get romanticized then. It was hard and none of the assignments were our own choice so we were usually stressed out and anxious. It helped to not have social media to compare our experiences to.
This was a great video essay, exactly my thoughts during the last few years!!
I've actually NEVER heard anyone talk about this before and it's SO. REAL. For a time in my life I was like 'everything I do needs to be seen otherwise I'm not maximising what it COULD be' - and it's still taking time to try to unlearn that lol. Even as I say it, it sounds like a good idea to post everything I'm doing or to be like 'man I HATED BEING AN ART STUDENT but it LOOKED SO COOL. Then when you go back, it really isn't that cool. It just boils down to if you care how random people perceive you or if you're satisfied with your life and who your closest friends know you as omg
YES I FEEL THAT!! almost like if i’m the only one who sees my art it’s not enough? still trying to unlearn that as well!!
@@lemongacha It’s funnily enough the moments that we draw for ourselves when we’re the happiest too T___T when you’re drawing without the thought of posting it to social media, but actually I’m the most proud of those works and taking the time to cultivate my own ideas makes me more excited to share it!! I think i’m trying to unlearn it both in my art and personal life T_T like even now I feel like I should post what i’m doing, but to have art for a business online, it can sound like both a great business move to keep followers engaged but also that directly conflicts with keeping yourself happy sometimes.
I love your painting! I like how you didn’t make it a perfectly straight line on all the edges, I like how you left gaps. I’m honestly tired of the perfect square border most people do now.
thank you!!
I enjoyed this format :) this is the first video I have watched if yours and it was very therapeutic so thank you. Lovely art too
glad I came across u inmy reccommention, love the artstyle
thank you!
Woow.! That's marvelous 👌
Omg, I love these kinds of videos! New sub
Watching this as I have two massive assignments due next week for both my studio art classes. I have spent every night this week in the art building making sure everything looks PERFECT for the critiques. I'm exhausted :(
i’ve been there :,((( i don’t know why but everything needs to be perfect for critique otherwise i’ll feel like i’ve let myself down ahh but good luck with assignments!!
I absolutly love this !! the art , the words, the contemplations and explorations of thought. i lovee
AHH thank you so much 🥺🥺🥺
such a cute video! i love the overall aesthetic
thank you!!!
@@lemongacha of course!!
Make one talking about your journey? Maybe repaint your old
paintings?
When I saw this video, I knew I had to watch it.
Like yeah, romanticizing is bad. Sometimes I watch unboxings and be like I really want an IPad or an Apple Pencil or something then at the end of the day I feel bad :(
Not only about me not being able to afford it but also how bad it’s affecting my brain. I think people should post struggles yk idk but I think if we see the bts of everything it would be calming and someone out there could relate.
The romanticizing needs to stop.
don’t get me wrong!! i’m not saying romanticization is bad!! i’m not saying it’s good either, just analyzing the effects and how it fits into the context of an art student persona 😳
@@lemongacha Ik ik what u meant
You have a beautiful sketchbook artworks dear. 💛😊 You have amazing drawings 👏👍🏻
I absolutely loved this essay! So true!
Now this is a video that makes me think while eating my noodles
thank you for this!! it's very eye-opening. 🧡✨
Nice artwork😍👍👍 Love it❤️
Well said. So many good points; thanks for these insights!
love this discussion so much!!
I cant wait to watch this!!! Missed your videos 💕
this is so important. thank you for this
yes. this needs to be said more ♥️
ur so good with words omg :0
Underrated asf omg😟‼️
Great sharing my friend,beautiful😊❤️..
thank you for the subtitle!
9:10 I really love this part
i hate people who are against others romantisizing their own life like...oh you make it sound fun when actually its hard and sad! well yeah sorry i like to focus on the nice stuff and cope with it at least somehow by making it pretty instead of revelling in my misery lol 😭 people just hate to see others be happy and not suffer even when their life is hard! but they also hate when you whine about your problems so you really can't win :,)
this is true as well!!!! there’s literally no need to hate others who are having fun lol (not the point of this vid!!)
@@lemongacha sorry if i sounded rude im ok with people just expressing opinions i just hope people don't leave hate to those who like romantizing their life :D
you earned a new subscriber 🙈
ahhh ty!!
This is beautiful🌙
WAIT, AYO, WAS THAT A DEAR EVAN HANSEN QUOTE?? LETS GOOO
no idea what that is 🤭🤭🤭
bruh i was an art student and all i do is complain what goes on there, tho tbh i did enjoy my time there but man i had so many hardships
i love your videos so much :,)
Beautiful ✨💛💫
I'm also an art student, and my school doesn't really address the lack of rest students get. They're complicit with the amount of homework that is assigned. They fill the vending machines with coffee and energy drinks... no joke. They literally promote sleepless students while draining their bank accounts. Don't get me wrong, I'm privileged and grateful for this education cause the education itself is actually pretty good. Teachers are working artists, and they're very upfront about how to get work and how to succeed. I just wanna sleep tho...
oh my gosh that sounds terrible!! i can't say i'm too surprised but the entire stigma around not being productive is really harming students. hoping you can get some rest too!
11:08 queue music
When you're falling in a forest and there's nobody around do you ever really crash, or even make a sound?
Did I even make a sound?
Did I even make a sound?
It's like I never made a sound
Will I ever make a sound?
The biggest problem about artist aesthetics: most time people are consuming one artists work because of the whole idealization around them.
They want to believe that this artist passionately crafted this art piece even though it's just a portrait commission from a selfie. That they go to some cool and overpriced cafe or bar only cool and quirky people goes. That their hobby whenever they're not painting is reading poetry in a old yellowish book or something.
Basically they want to believe that every fucking second of an artists life is filled with idealized passion seeking and cult bohemia.
And, specially, they want it registered on instagram.
Aside from this dumb and blind romantization, I absolutely hate how they simply naturalized it, and demand a kind of unpaid 24/7 work so naturally. "You're just posting your idle daily life on Instagram". And if you are not as cool and passionate as they expect, then, you're not an artist at all.
yea for sure!! social media is pretty big on seeing the results without the work behind it and we don't even stop to consider how much we can consume for free from each other!! it's always great to slow down and see your art journey from another lens besides social media!
Sorry for asking but what art supplies did you use? Your art looks so so so beautiful by the way and your take was incredibly interesting to hear!
hi!! apologies for the late reply :O!!! for this spread i used gouache paints (reeves and holbein), colored pencils, a staedler fineliner (the black pen you saw) and mildliner highlighters!! for any extra info you can check out my supplies vid!!
ahhh i cant believe im late; great video, i loved the freehand drawing of the pomegranates
for this spread i had a photo reference so i kinda just exaggerated the colors there! for the other elements i tried to tie in colors that matched my main painting study. often i just pick by feeling too!!