I can still remember the first and only time I saw a Laserdisc player in a store. Was in early 1982, Woolworths in Bristol had a Philips Laserdisc player on display showing Star Wars. And it was towards the end where they're attacking the Death Star, and I stood there just watching it for about 20 minutes.
I love these vintage players, there's just something futuristic looking but also retro at the same time. I have a Kenwood LD-K300V, It's a exceptionally rare LD player. It took me 12 years to find one. It was my unicorn. Everytime it showed up it disappeared. It was almost impossible to find one and when you did it just vanished. It was even considered at one time to be a myth, a rumour to even exist until about a decade ago a picture of it showed up on the internet. at that point I decided that I've just got to have one to complete my Kenwood Series 21 collection. It's priceless to me. This is the first LD player I ever bought. If I was to decide on another it would have to be one like your one. It just looks so visually appealing to me. In the UK when I was growing up in the 80's I never saw a single LD player or even a disc. This sort of thing was VERY high end and were only sold in shops dedicated to high end equipment. The only disc format player I ever saw was an RCA Selectavision in my primary school. I remember it clearly because watching a movie on a flat cartridge (So I thought at the time) was just like magic, I was in awe of it. The first movie I ever watched on disc format on a RCA was Annie. The reason why my school had it was because RCA was having issues selling it to the public so they were selling the units and the discs off cheap in an attempt to recover their losses in a failing market. The first movie I bought and watched for my LD player was A Clockwork Orange, I wanted my first LD experience to be as memorable as my first CED. Ah the nostalgia feels great.
I'm still using laserdisc occasionally, I've got a few.hundred disks still :) currently I have a Pioneer DVL-919E which is still going strong after 20 years, my first player was a Philips VLP700 which also had the helium neon gas laser that struck at 1.1kV I believe. I have to say the picture on the original Philips machine was superb, it was built in 1981. Later I had a Philips CDV475, which was horribly unreliable, I then switched to Pioneer, a CLD1450 and later a CLD-925 :) thanks for the great videos, always interesting, Rich, London
I've got one of the first generation VP-1000s from 1980. Was a thrift store find a few years ago. It actually still works fine and got me into collecting LDs. Even used it a couple times to watch a movie. These things are seriously still working four decades later. Really doubt many of today's electronics will be working in 40 years... The sound of the disc spinning up in these early players is legit scary. Think I read somewhere that it gets up to 1800 RPM. That's a lot of force for a disc that large.
Those were industrial grade model for business use,they made those to last with big heavy duty parts everywhere so I'm not surprised many of them still works.
I have that 1980 pioneer VP-1000 player mentioned at 1:55. It doesnt work, and when I got it the shattered remains of a gear trickled out the bottom (yikes) but it was just so cool I had to have it. Plus, how many laserdisc players have woodgrain trim? The craziest thing about it is just how heavy it is. Its packed so densely with electronics that dispite its size, it had to be at LEAST 40-45 pounds
My uncle gave me his old pioneer lazerdisc player in the early 90's. I hooked it up to my 13"tv and my Commodore 1702 monitor. Sound was handled by my JVC 40wX2 reciever hooked to 2 radio shack 15" subs, 2 radio shack 8" subs, 2 5.25 rockford fosgate mids, and 4 1 " tweeters. We watched the abyss at full volume many many times.
My first Laserdisc player was a Pioneer, a later model that also played CD"s, the people that stole it must have thought it was some kind of CD player, they left my 50 or so Laserdiscs behind, maybe thought they were Albums or something.
I won an auction of one of these model in Japan years ago but it's a heavy beast and they do not offer anything other than EMS for shipping it so got really expensive to ship. So I ditched it but recently things changed they're now offered cheaper alternatives to EMS so I might give one of this model one more chance. My 1990 Pioneer just stopped working so this seemed like a perfect time grab this gas laser beast just for looks alone was worth it. Always have a soft spot for clean experimental looking LD player like this one.
What a great machine I remember the first time seeing laserdisc, it was quite late actually since it never really took off in my country - early 90s. It seemed impossibly futuristic even then though.
@@arsenixa you should image your HD DVDs. There are many free programs if you have a PC compatible HD DVD drive. Maybe there are also apps for a (jailbroken) Xbox 360 with the HD DVD drive
The analog sound on all LaserDiscs is the same Fm hihi-Fi on later VHS and Beta tapes that had Hi-Fi sound mixed in their video signal. The FM on these discs is separate and one of the channels would be eliminated to offer Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, but it took a special LaserDisc player with an RF output to get to that sound, then a special receiver (or even converter) with an RF input to further decode it. PCM CD sound on later LaserDiscs were the same sound on all CDs, but Laserdiscs with DTS sound took the place of the PCM digital sound on these discs for their 5.1 and you could access them on all players with a S/PDIF (Sony Philips Digital InterFace) cable in either the Optical format (as you added to the video) or Coaxial (with RCA ends) format. However, many machines had only one, both or none, so you have to check before you buy a given model. CBS invented CX noise reduction and it is not a bad format.
It may say 720P but my eyes call BS; This quality is one step above VHS-C through a capture card. 😜 Snarkiness aside, great video! While never owning one as old as the VP-1100, my family had several Pioneer LD players over the years and I find related videos on the technology fascinating. The VHS plebs of the 80's never knew how good movies could be. 😎
Nice find! Hopefully you can find a remote for a reasonable price. Glad you salvaged it from the recycle bin! My LaserDisc player is non-functional. This is inspiration to get it up and running! Nice job.
Cool old player, and it's fascinating that we can use RUclips to look back on the details of various "disc based" video formats. I remember the first time I saw one of these as a kid in a store - it had an onscreen display that read "Chapter 1" and I was thinking - "Chapters in video?! What does that mean??" It would be interesting to know if this 1982 model is still functioning because it was built with higher quality parts or didn't have a lot of use.
I did a video on replacing the capacitors in my VP-1000, (for the gas laser... The danger high voltage ones) but my video is extremely washed out and noisy. Yours is working great, the image looks as good as my DVL-700! Also I find the spool up delightfully entertaining.
There is just something about those early 80s top loading LaserDisc players ⏯️▶️I've got a very similar pr 8210 r from 1983. My question is how do you unlock the lid if the reject button won't work? You see just I purchased the 8210, and it was damaged in transit. So I have still never used a real LaserDisc player. This was supposed to be the perfect one for me. I must to have a top loader, no drawer tray will do. It still powers on, I even have the original working remote control, but I cannot get the thing to open. No matter what I try because the lock is stuck and won't release. It powers on, lights up, standby blinking, and when I turn it off I can hear a healthy sounding mechanical movement from what I assume is the laser clicking back down to power down. There was some minor damage to the plastic snaps that hold on the back cover, but it doesn't look like the insides got damaged. It was likely dropped, but these things seem pretty durable and it was packaged very well. It should be able to work if I get it to open. Please help me save this player from a death it didn't deserve!
I would love to get hold of one of those decks, the problem with them is that they have a laser system that likes to give up the ghost. The video out is however normal composite, it just has a different plug that needs an adapter that you have.
Blackberry Playbook really was a great tablet that was held back with poor software...kind of like the HP TouchPad made a great cheap Android tablet once you got WebOS off of it. If they had ported Android to the PlayBook, I'm sure it would have been great. The camera setup on the PlayBook was way beyond anything other phones/tablets had....I still have a PlayBook, anyone else watching still have one?
Pretty neat. Very 80s Japanese electronics look, where it more or less looks like it would turn in to a robot. Otherwise it does have that kinda budgety look of putting _every_ function as a separate indicator or button with an excess of text, to make it seem like there's a lot more features and a lot more going on with it to impress in the store, when it's really just every combination of basic functions broken out in to buttons and lights, and no OSD at all either. :p
I'm no expert on LaserDisc players, (I was a solid Betamax guy in this era) But this seems retro by 1982-84 standards because it looks BIGGER than the earlier (circa 1979-81) Magnavox models. It could be just the styling maybe?
I think this, and RCA's CED players used "reject" instead of "eject" as a disc seemed more like a record than a tape. Automatic record players had "reject" to skip a record, whereas tape decks had an "eject" button. (Tradition meets tech?) I mean SanDisk makes things that are decidedly, NOT "disks" but DID replace them. 🤷♂️
It's funny how they show a 70mm conventional(vertical) filmreel rolling. Analog IMAX prints were always projected horizontally, with each frame having an image area of three conventional 70mm frames. The way IMAX was projected is very different from conventional 16, 35 or 70mm film.
True, plus VistaVision was shot horizontally, ooo sometimes a format is just different. 9,5mm (aka 9.5mm) film was shot normally, but the sprocket holes were in between the frames.
I just bought an LD-660 which is pretty similar. It powers up, spins the disc, I even get picture...for about a second then it loops. I'm assuming the laser is not progressing on the rail. Any suggestions?
I believe these machines have a shipping screw to prevent damage to the laser. I would look for that. Otherwise you might need to pop the hood and look inside. Don’t do so while it’s plugged in.
I've heard some people say that those He-Ne laserdisk players can read bad discs better than the more modern semiconductor laser, is there any truth to that?
These HeNe Laser were originally intended for much more critical application than say reading discs obviously have stronger performance than the later cheaper Diode so yes they have better tracking and reading performance than Diode ones. But it was purely because it was never meant to made for reading optical discs in the first place so its specification overshot the normal standard requirements by quite a margin. Think the difference of these two laser were difference between military grade Magnetron in earliest microwave oven vs low power Magnetron ones that in most kitchen top model Microwave oven. Both get the job done but one of them was way overqualified for its job. The drawbacks of HeNe laser players was they were huge and power hungry and expensive to buy and maintain.
It's interesting that you explained what you were shooting with as well as went over your audio setup. I very much like the idea of not spending a bunch of cash on a "RUclips Starter Kit" filled with 4k DSLR's and Rode Wireless lapel mic. My only gripe I believe is in your editing where the volume is drastically reduced for the first second of each scene. Fading from a mumble to the normal level that it stays at for the duration of your video. It does this several times so I'm guessing it's just a setting in your editor, should be a quick fix and you're there. Love the "outdoor series" format as well and it's great to get some face-time with you in front of the camera rather than the old format of a disembodied voice. That's a beautiful example of a top loader and I'm very surprised it was in such good shape. Every time I go to the recycling depot in my city, all I find are Canon inkjet printers and the occasional cheap Citizen or RCA CRT TV when gramma upgrades.
Does anybody find it odd that there’s a selector for voltage being an NTSC player as just about any country on 220-240 volts uses the PAL or SECAM video systems. Being a Pioneer unit I would think there would have been a selection for 100 volts for Japan
Back in the very late 1980's and early 1990's many European TVs and VHS decks could play back NTSC, albeit in a quasi 'PAL 60' mode - I think it was probably a legacy of having US troops in West Germany and the UK. A few laser disc players were sold in the United Kingdom but it was only ever a niche product.
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I can still remember the first and only time I saw a Laserdisc player in a store. Was in early 1982, Woolworths in Bristol had a Philips Laserdisc player on display showing Star Wars. And it was towards the end where they're attacking the Death Star, and I stood there just watching it for about 20 minutes.
Michael Turner please tell me it was Bristol Connecticut!😎🍺🍕
Must've blown your socks off, the sound and clarity, especially in '82. My parents bought a Pioneer LD player in late 1991.
It brings back old memories. My first viewing of LaserDisc was How the West Was Won playing on that very model.
I love the old Pioneer logo
Nice looking machine. What a score.
I love these vintage players, there's just something futuristic looking but also retro at the same time.
I have a Kenwood LD-K300V, It's a exceptionally rare LD player. It took me 12 years to find one. It was my unicorn. Everytime it showed up it disappeared. It was almost impossible to find one and when you did it just vanished. It was even considered at one time to be a myth, a rumour to even exist until about a decade ago a picture of it showed up on the internet. at that point I decided that I've just got to have one to complete my Kenwood Series 21 collection. It's priceless to me. This is the first LD player I ever bought. If I was to decide on another it would have to be one like your one. It just looks so visually appealing to me.
In the UK when I was growing up in the 80's I never saw a single LD player or even a disc. This sort of thing was VERY high end and were only sold in shops dedicated to high end equipment. The only disc format player I ever saw was an RCA Selectavision in my primary school. I remember it clearly because watching a movie on a flat cartridge (So I thought at the time) was just like magic, I was in awe of it. The first movie I ever watched on disc format on a RCA was Annie.
The reason why my school had it was because RCA was having issues selling it to the public so they were selling the units and the discs off cheap in an attempt to recover their losses in a failing market.
The first movie I bought and watched for my LD player was A Clockwork Orange, I wanted my first LD experience to be as memorable as my first CED. Ah the nostalgia feels great.
"Press the play button" *Laser Disc proceeds to accelerate at sonic jet speeds, nearly breaking the sound barrier*
1.21 Gigawatts!!
It sounded like my 1962 Buick Electra 225, pulling onto an on ramp, the Dynaflow transmission would give an emphatc WHIRRRRR (no actual shifting!).
the disc is going to fly away spinning that fast
I'm still using laserdisc occasionally, I've got a few.hundred disks still :) currently I have a Pioneer DVL-919E which is still going strong after 20 years, my first player was a Philips VLP700 which also had the helium neon gas laser that struck at 1.1kV I believe. I have to say the picture on the original Philips machine was superb, it was built in 1981. Later I had a Philips CDV475, which was horribly unreliable, I then switched to Pioneer, a CLD1450 and later a CLD-925 :) thanks for the great videos, always interesting, Rich, London
I've got one of the first generation VP-1000s from 1980. Was a thrift store find a few years ago. It actually still works fine and got me into collecting LDs. Even used it a couple times to watch a movie. These things are seriously still working four decades later. Really doubt many of today's electronics will be working in 40 years...
The sound of the disc spinning up in these early players is legit scary. Think I read somewhere that it gets up to 1800 RPM. That's a lot of force for a disc that large.
Those were industrial grade model for business use,they made those to last with big heavy duty parts everywhere so I'm not surprised many of them still works.
@@barebarekun161 And the VP-1000 is from Pioneer, not Philips.
I have that 1980 pioneer VP-1000 player mentioned at 1:55. It doesnt work, and when I got it the shattered remains of a gear trickled out the bottom (yikes) but it was just so cool I had to have it. Plus, how many laserdisc players have woodgrain trim? The craziest thing about it is just how heavy it is. Its packed so densely with electronics that dispite its size, it had to be at LEAST 40-45 pounds
Damn man. Happy 50th birthday... when ever that happens/ed this year.
I loved our LD1100! Wow ...
My uncle gave me his old pioneer lazerdisc player in the early 90's. I hooked it up to my 13"tv and my Commodore 1702 monitor. Sound was handled by my JVC 40wX2 reciever hooked to 2 radio shack 15" subs, 2 radio shack 8" subs, 2 5.25 rockford fosgate mids, and 4 1 " tweeters. We watched the abyss at full volume many many times.
One heck of a gift! I bought a brand new low end Pioneer LD player in 1991 and it cost me almost $500
That was one of my first laser disc movie thrift finds! Great movie
My first Laserdisc player was a Pioneer, a later model that also played CD"s, the people that stole it must have thought it was some kind of CD player, they left my 50 or so Laserdiscs behind, maybe thought they were Albums or something.
I won an auction of one of these model in Japan years ago but it's a heavy beast and they do not offer anything other than EMS for shipping it so got really expensive to ship.
So I ditched it but recently things changed they're now offered cheaper alternatives to EMS so I might give one of this model one more chance.
My 1990 Pioneer just stopped working so this seemed like a perfect time grab this gas laser beast just for looks alone was worth it.
Always have a soft spot for clean experimental looking LD player like this one.
What a great machine
I remember the first time seeing laserdisc, it was quite late actually since it never really took off in my country - early 90s. It seemed impossibly futuristic even then though.
Gas laser for optical unit, this model made history, very interesting player.
The idea of filming videos in obscure or older video camera at random sounds like a good idea.
Wow still works, I wanna see more about that gas laser
My HD-DVD players are breaking left and right but this thing still works after 36 years and having been thrown in a bin, wtf...
@Preproto same. Did not know any consumer level players used a gas laser tube.
@@arsenixa you should image your HD DVDs. There are many free programs if you have a PC compatible HD DVD drive. Maybe there are also apps for a (jailbroken) Xbox 360 with the HD DVD drive
@@arsenixa I heard many of the Warner HD-DVDs were going bad from laserrot. Did you have any issues with any of them if you have any?
The analog sound on all LaserDiscs is the same Fm hihi-Fi on later VHS and Beta tapes that had Hi-Fi sound mixed in their video signal. The FM on these discs is separate and one of the channels would be eliminated to offer Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, but it took a special LaserDisc player with an RF output to get to that sound, then a special receiver (or even converter) with an RF input to further decode it. PCM CD sound on later LaserDiscs were the same sound on all CDs, but Laserdiscs with DTS sound took the place of the PCM digital sound on these discs for their 5.1 and you could access them on all players with a S/PDIF (Sony Philips Digital InterFace) cable in either the Optical format (as you added to the video) or Coaxial (with RCA ends) format. However, many machines had only one, both or none, so you have to check before you buy a given model. CBS invented CX noise reduction and it is not a bad format.
It may say 720P but my eyes call BS; This quality is one step above VHS-C through a capture card. 😜
Snarkiness aside, great video! While never owning one as old as the VP-1100, my family had several Pioneer LD players over the years and I find related videos on the technology fascinating. The VHS plebs of the 80's never knew how good movies could be. 😎
Thank you for sharing! Always intrigued me this laser video disc. RCA had a different one, nevertheless it came out too late!
Nice find! Hopefully you can find a remote for a reasonable price. Glad you salvaged it from the recycle bin! My LaserDisc player is non-functional. This is inspiration to get it up and running! Nice job.
Am I the only one that thinks these videos are like watching Lieutenant Dan talk about old tech? The likeness and voice are almost identical lol.
Nice machine!
Cool old player, and it's fascinating that we can use RUclips to look back on the details of various "disc based" video formats. I remember the first time I saw one of these as a kid in a store - it had an onscreen display that read "Chapter 1" and I was thinking - "Chapters in video?! What does that mean??" It would be interesting to know if this 1982 model is still functioning because it was built with higher quality parts or didn't have a lot of use.
It looks like it has been recapped too looking at the PSU board which is a bonus. Nice.
Oh and I watched Blue Planet in IMAX at Circus Circus with my parents
I believe my dad had a VP-1000. Nice player.
I did a video on replacing the capacitors in my VP-1000, (for the gas laser... The danger high voltage ones) but my video is extremely washed out and noisy. Yours is working great, the image looks as good as my DVL-700!
Also I find the spool up delightfully entertaining.
There is just something about those early 80s top loading LaserDisc players ⏯️▶️I've got a very similar pr 8210 r from 1983. My question is how do you unlock the lid if the reject button won't work? You see just I purchased the 8210, and it was damaged in transit. So I have still never used a real LaserDisc player. This was supposed to be the perfect one for me. I must to have a top loader, no drawer tray will do. It still powers on, I even have the original working remote control, but I cannot get the thing to open. No matter what I try because the lock is stuck and won't release. It powers on, lights up, standby blinking, and when I turn it off I can hear a healthy sounding mechanical movement from what I assume is the laser clicking back down to power down. There was some minor damage to the plastic snaps that hold on the back cover, but it doesn't look like the insides got damaged. It was likely dropped, but these things seem pretty durable and it was packaged very well. It should be able to work if I get it to open. Please help me save this player from a death it didn't deserve!
It looks like something straight out of Blade Runner!
Nice video playback,from playbook
I would love to get hold of one of those decks, the problem with them is that they have a laser system that likes to give up the ghost. The video out is however normal composite, it just has a different plug that needs an adapter that you have.
I have this too! Don't have the remote either.
Blackberry Playbook really was a great tablet that was held back with poor software...kind of like the HP TouchPad made a great cheap Android tablet once you got WebOS off of it. If they had ported Android to the PlayBook, I'm sure it would have been great. The camera setup on the PlayBook was way beyond anything other phones/tablets had....I still have a PlayBook, anyone else watching still have one?
Very good
Pretty neat. Very 80s Japanese electronics look, where it more or less looks like it would turn in to a robot. Otherwise it does have that kinda budgety look of putting _every_ function as a separate indicator or button with an excess of text, to make it seem like there's a lot more features and a lot more going on with it to impress in the store, when it's really just every combination of basic functions broken out in to buttons and lights, and no OSD at all either. :p
I'm no expert on LaserDisc players, (I was a solid Betamax guy in this era) But this seems retro by 1982-84 standards because it looks BIGGER than the earlier (circa 1979-81) Magnavox models. It could be just the styling maybe?
I think this, and RCA's CED players used "reject" instead of "eject" as a disc seemed more like a record than a tape. Automatic record players had "reject" to skip a record, whereas tape decks had an "eject" button. (Tradition meets tech?) I mean SanDisk makes things that are decidedly, NOT "disks" but DID replace them. 🤷♂️
what kind of lcd tv do you use?
I want to see the 10 million dollar camera.
Nice!
It's funny how they show a 70mm conventional(vertical) filmreel rolling. Analog IMAX prints were always projected horizontally, with each frame having an image area of three conventional 70mm frames. The way IMAX was projected is very different from conventional 16, 35 or 70mm film.
True, plus VistaVision was shot horizontally, ooo sometimes a format is just different. 9,5mm (aka 9.5mm) film was shot normally, but the sprocket holes were in between the frames.
I just bought an LD-660 which is pretty similar. It powers up, spins the disc, I even get picture...for about a second then it loops. I'm assuming the laser is not progressing on the rail. Any suggestions?
I believe these machines have a shipping screw to prevent damage to the laser. I would look for that. Otherwise you might need to pop the hood and look inside. Don’t do so while it’s plugged in.
@@databits I checked before I tested to make sure the screw was removed. I’ll probably have to open it up. thank you!
isnt it very first generation of VLD player ?
5:45 agreed, yes that's the best Pioneer logo
WOW,,,,WOW ultra stupid dopeness.... Nice dumpster find of the century! \
Thanks for posting this. Really enjoyed it... Amazing!
Lol reject button
This gives a "huge playstation" vibe
Just like fusion between ps2 slim design with color of original PlayStation console 😅
I've heard some people say that those He-Ne laserdisk players can read bad discs better than the more modern semiconductor laser, is there any truth to that?
These HeNe Laser were originally intended for much more critical application than say reading discs obviously have stronger performance than the later cheaper Diode so yes they have better tracking and reading performance than Diode ones.
But it was purely because it was never meant to made for reading optical discs in the first place so its specification overshot the normal standard requirements by quite a margin.
Think the difference of these two laser were difference between military grade Magnetron in earliest microwave oven vs low power Magnetron ones that in most kitchen top model Microwave oven.
Both get the job done but one of them was way overqualified for its job.
The drawbacks of HeNe laser players was they were huge and power hungry and expensive to buy and maintain.
此れは、日本で一番初めに発売されて居ますが、半導体レーザーは、未だ有りません、大きく高価で、売れません、私は3世代目の頃に買いました。録画は、出来ませんが、レーザーは、盤面が何度再生しても、キズが付かないし大変鮮明なNTSCアナログ映像でした。
It's interesting that you explained what you were shooting with as well as went over your audio setup. I very much like the idea of not spending a bunch of cash on a "RUclips Starter Kit" filled with 4k DSLR's and Rode Wireless lapel mic. My only gripe I believe is in your editing where the volume is drastically reduced for the first second of each scene. Fading from a mumble to the normal level that it stays at for the duration of your video. It does this several times so I'm guessing it's just a setting in your editor, should be a quick fix and you're there.
Love the "outdoor series" format as well and it's great to get some face-time with you in front of the camera rather than the old format of a disembodied voice. That's a beautiful example of a top loader and I'm very surprised it was in such good shape. Every time I go to the recycling depot in my city, all I find are Canon inkjet printers and the occasional cheap Citizen or RCA CRT TV when gramma upgrades.
Databits deserves much more subs. anyone not subbed to him, please do. His videos are cool. :-)
Before DVD players
came out..
Does anybody find it odd that there’s a selector for voltage being an NTSC player as just about any country on 220-240 volts uses the PAL or SECAM video systems. Being a Pioneer unit I would think there would have been a selection for 100 volts for Japan
South Korea uses NTSC video and 220V mains voltage
Back in the very late 1980's and early 1990's many European TVs and VHS decks could play back NTSC, albeit in a quasi 'PAL 60' mode - I think it was probably a legacy of having US troops in West Germany and the UK. A few laser disc players were sold in the United Kingdom but it was only ever a niche product.
This player had it's very own demo disc. It can be seen in its entirety here: ruclips.net/video/8F0Ju2RotEA/видео.html
I like it!
I had a CED video disk player but all the disks became unwatchable after watching them 500 times!
You've got a Playbook?! Jealous!!!
I’d rather stick with my trusty LD-660. The 1100 looks nearly like it (different front panel however) but performs much differently.
Parece un DVD reproductor...
Looks like a gigantic version of a sony MZ-R37
Must resist the urge to check ebay.
Fully agree on the newer "Pioneer" logo. It screams CHEAP, like some crappy CHI-COM crap from "WISH.COM"
Im Garcia
I own 2 Moldiver laserdiscs made by Pioneer. I don't own a player.
It's lonely being the first comment
HI
The new Pioneer logo is awful! It's so cheapo looking.