More Texas schools threaten teacher certificates for those who quit
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2022
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This sends a message to anyone considering being a teacher to choose another profession. EVERYONE has the right to quit their job: doctors, lawyers, tech workers. But Gov Greg Abbott is saying that in Texas teachers are the only professionals who do not have this right. OKAY young people - is this really a career that you want? NOPE!
Then vote Abbott out of office along with his wheelchair.....or just push him of the cliff....
Screw teaching
(Agree. Didn't abbot say nurses couldn't quit either?)
You got that right sister! Look a school can put some reasonable thing in the contract to recoup money but why would I indenture myself? Give me a break, you know?
I’m a retired teacher and I love teaching. However the working conditions have been deteriorating since the early 2000’s at least. COVID-19, remote teaching, hybrid teaching and whatever else cáame from it or came along in roughly the same time period made things go from bad (but I can still handle it) to worst (this is impossible. Trying to do it all is affecting my mental health, my physical health, my emotional health, my family, my social life and more. So for my own well being I must get out NOW. I can’t wait until the end of the school year to quit.)
At this point I would not recommend going into teaching to anyone. It is not worth it.
Gov. Abbott, or more specifically, The State Board of Educator Certification, absolutely can suspend temporarily or revoke permanently a teacher’s certification. Why? Because teachers are contract employees. Teachers sign a contract. In that contract it says that the school cannot fire a teacher in the middle of the school year unless the teacher has done something very bad, usually illegal. If a teacher is caught having a “romance” with a student, if the teacher is guilty of statutory rape, or is molesting a student, or hits a student, or has/uses/buys/or sells illegal drugs, alcohol, or cigarettes on school property, if the teacher has a gun on school property even if it’s in her car and it’s not hers, if a
teacher steals expensive things, etc then the school can fire the teacher mid-year. Otherwise if they don’t want that teacher back next year they can non-renew the contract at the end of the school year but there are limits on that and they must follow procedures.
The contract states that by signing the contract, the teacher cannot quit their job until their contract ends, usually at the end of the school year. End of contract term resignations usually happen in March or April. A teacher must submit her resignation by a deadline and must continue to work for the rest of her contract term. The contract states that any teacher who quits in the middle of the school year can have their teacher’s certificate suspended for at least one year. That puts a black mark on the teacher’s record and it can make it harder for that teacher to find teacher jobs in the future.
School districts can be reluctant to hire someone who has previously broken a contract because they’re considered to be a risk. If they broke a contract before they may very well break a contract with this district also.
A teacher can go before the school board and ask to be released from her contract if she has a compelling reason why she has to quit now and cannot wait until the end of the school year. That might be for health reasons, a recently disabled child who needs her care, having to move because the spouse got a job in or was transferred to a location where it’s too far for her to commute among other things. It is up to the school board whether they release her from her contract or not. Even if they do release her from her contract it can still put a black mark on her record although it’s not as serious as quitting without being released from the contract. If the school board decides not to release her from her contract then she has two choices. She can work the rest of her contract term until the end of the school year and quit then. Or she can quit in the middle of the school year without the school board releasing her from her contract but she runs the risk of having the black mark on her record and having a hard time getting hired to be a teacher in the future.
So, yes, a teacher can have her teaching certificate temporarily suspended or permanently revoked for resigning during the school year. A contract is a legal promise. When you sign it you’re making a promise to work until the end of your contract term and there are negative consequences for breaking a contract.
I support the teachers 100 percent. They’ll suspend the teachers, but not get rid of the students who are bringing weapons to school.
if my child ever brought a weapon to school I'd be upset if the police were not called. I thought about being a teacher but decided against it. I've been abused my whole life and would quit a job in a heartbeat if expected to accept abuse from staff or students.
your wrong
Yep. My mother is a teacher and I fear everyday when she goes to work that there will be another schooll sh00ting or whatever, either caused by a student or someone else. Could probably be part of the reason why parents pull their kids of out public schools.
Kudos to the teachers that are quitting. Texas doesn't respect teachers.
AMEN
@Sash Mat See, it's THAT kind of attitude! Don't assume all teachers are Lefties. Have some respect!
@Sash Mat wtf are you talking about? You're not making sense.
Correct.
Nobody respects teachers in any state
This should be illegal. You can’t hold professionals hostage. The nerve of these people. These teachers need a union to protect them.
You can “hold professionals hostage” if they signed a contract.
There are teachers unions. In some states teachers unions have a lot of power. I’m others they don’t. Texas is a “right to work” state. I’m not sure about everything that means but I know it means that unions cannot require workers to join.
There are teachers unions in Texas. They can and do help teachers in various situations such as if the teacher is having trouble with administration, if the teacher gets a bad evaluation, if a student or someone accuses the teacher of inappropriate behavior, etc
This is communism.
But unions are evil socialism! Whats next? Socialized healthcare!? 😅
A lot of teachers that quit mid-year are doing so to preserve their mental, emotional, and physical health.
I left Mid-Year. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If your district is willing to remove your license for leaving an unsafe and toxic environment, you need to be working elsewhere. There are 308,000+ vacant teacher positions in the nation right now. We can leave as we see fit and many aren't even bothering to return to the profession. Subs are at an all-time low, as are graduates from Teachers programs. Sooner or later, districts are going to have to deal with the elephants in the room: Student Behavior, Toxic Parents, and Weak-Willed Administration. Until they do, this will continue.
In my school district all they require now is a GED which is the ultimate proof that teaching is little more than babysitting.
Don’t forget inappropriate curriculum such as assigning illiterate high school kids with two digit IQs to the college preparatory track and telling them they’ll never be able to find a job if they don’t get a college degree.
students don't misbehave but teachers do get over do the only job your allow to that tech academics your not allow to deal with supposely discipline issues
There's a teacher shortage, what do we do?
Texas: Suspend more teachers!
Everyone else: WTF?
Absolute truth.
Abbot is so smart, isn't he?
theirs no teachers shortage but theirs a student shortage most kids are home school
@@officialmelpeachey I think more kids should be in school, so they can learn the difference between "there" , "their" and "they're".
A teacher shortage is also because teachers are just breaking their contracts.
We're beginning to run out of people willing to put up with the situation facing teachers. There are plenty of other careers and the job market is short workers. These teachers might be able to find easier work for better compensation.
-Give teachers respect
-Allow them a better work-life balance
-Provide better pay
-Let the teachers teach
_Way_ too much to ask for, alas.
no just people in education that shhouldn't be just home school it's way better
@@officialmelpeacheyNo objections here, lol...teach them yourself... 😂
I was a teacher for 30 years. It's hard to move from one state to another because each one has different licensing requirements and you start at the bottom of the salary scale in a new state even if you've been teaching for decades. Now we're indentured servants who can't resign from wildly dysfunctional jobs for our own mental and physical health?
Hey, everybody, sign up to be a teacher. Incur $80,000 of student loan debt! It's a great job!
hopefully you're done, retired or in another career. i feel for them
Not true. I left Texas and make more money due to my years of experience in Minnesota.
I have worked for higher salary in many states. Only Florida starts teachers at the bottom of the scale. However I have a friend at a Charter school in rural Florida making over $80,000 year.
@@anonymousservant4841 We are happy to have you in Minnesota
Not necessarily. Lots of states have reciprocity agreements with other states. It was fairly easy to transfer my teaching credentials from CA to Oregon. I did that in case I moved there. I got a reciprocal teaching license and will renew it as a regular one in a year. I have four teaching credentials and will only have to take their easy multiple choice test for the SPED one. Vermont I think is easy too.
There are solutions but the DOE don’t want to do it. And it’s not entirely because of pay. One particular issue is many Americans and the culture of US does not value education. The public does not respect teachers. Kids are not held accountable or responsible for their academics. Many parents are irresponsible parents who don’t take their child’s education seriously.
No. It’s disproportionately about the pay.
Threatening to take the teachers' certification away is childish and avoids the real issue. They are not getting the support they need from administrators, more work for no more pay, out of control students threatening teachers' safety,etc. This proves the administrators are not interested in education.
RESIGNATION IS OUR RIGHT !!!!
Yeah they are part of a union and not quitting in the middle of class is part of their agreement in exchange for the benefits the union provides. Don't sign up for the job if you don't have what it takes to see it through. Kids in school don't deserve to be treated that way.
@@jaht1570 You need to understand what freedom means. Things need to change. I am tired of seeing so many kids with horrible problems they bring from home. Terrible values !!!
@@TheCoon1975 How many years have you been a teacher of record for any elementary, middle, or high school?
@@TheCoon1975 Are you aware that there are NO teacher unions in Texas? It is a right-to-work state. Teachers get no benefits whatsoever from a union because no teacher in Texas belongs to a union.
This pandemic only highlighted the issues we were already having in our classrooms. Teachers have been telling the districts that these issues are a problem, but we have been ignored. The districts keep thinking that adding more to the work load is going to fix it. It won't! They think adding more testing will fix it. It won't! They think that adding extra hours to the day or days to the year will fix it. It won't! It will just drive good teachers out of the classrooms. We don't need more tasks to complete. We barely have the time to complete them now. I refuse to take the work home, and if it doesn't get done in the hours they pay me for, then they can fire me! And if I have so much redundant paperwork to fill out, then I won't have the time to plan a decent lesson, communicate with parents, or communicate with my colleagues. But I know plenty of teachers who take that work home and don't have time for their own families. That is ridiculous, and shouldn't be expected! We shouldn't be told, "Do it for the kids!" The districts take advantage of this and assume we will all do it. We won't. I am glad teachers are quitting, because then MAYBE districts will finally listen to our concerns. We need more funding, so that we can actually have the correct staff members that each school needs to be productive, and to make sure each kid can have the help they need to succeed. We need parents to teach their kids to be respectful to teachers again! We need principals to send those kids home, rather than asking other teachers to "take care of the problem child". If the parents do not have to deal with the mess they created, then it will never change. We need teachers to be paid what they are worth for having a degreed career. We need people to trust our decisions, when it comes to knowing the child's learning strengths/weaknesses, rather than someone always micromanaging or arguing about the recommendations. Teachers know what we need. Administrations/parents need to support those needs, or they will be left with robots who are "teaching" their kids!
Well said
@@cordfortina9073 This is also an unfortunate event after graduating from a university. There are always other options, and humans have been creating options for centuries. However, most humans feel pressured into the status quos of existence and seek the most safest routes. Taking a more risky route is definitely scary. I am considering this myself, as I am getting braver in my older age to seek what my true desires are, rather than settling where I think the only options exist. I hope you find your passion, try to seek other avenues to express it and get paid for it, and live it out in a successful path! (I myself am hoping to start my own online teaching business, so I don't have to be stuck doing monotonous tasks that don't benefit myself, or my students.)
It's even worse. Someone tells me I am responsible for some kids' health and education, and I sign papers to legally take on that responsibility. They DO know that if THEY are the party putting my charges in danger or preventing their education, it's THEIR ASSES on the chopping block, yes? And to protect kids, many of us will never even think about going through the courts. What would be the point? We would teach them to put students first through fear. Just plain fear. Don't think I'm reasonable? What part of the system as it exists now is MORE reasonable than my approach? If the responsibility and basic decency aren't strong enough motivators, I am just fine with straight-up fear. Some jobs are simply too important to make room for failure or incompetence.
@@DR-hy6is I honestly think the govt wants the teachers and school to do everything for the parents so the parents don’t have to do their responsibilities as the parent of the kid. Public schools are suppose to be academic institutions promoting academics and learning, not do the duties for the parents. It’s a fake perception that the schools are educating and helping students to learn. It’s really a babysitting center. As long as the schools and principals are afraid and controlled by parents, public schools will always remain a baby sitting center, will NEVER be an academic institution. The name public school is an incorrect name. Should be called public babysitting center.
💪🏆A+
The fact that the school boards are willing to punish teachers for quitting is a sign that all teachers should quit. If they are doing this, it shows they don't care about teachers as individuals or skilled professionals, only that teachers area possession that the school owns. They are trying to turn their teachers into literal slaves.
Teachers are quitting because the environment for educators is no longer tenable. So the answer to that is to punish them? How are we expecting to retain teachers? How about addressing the issues in our educational systems instead of further punishing teachers?
It's such a toxic environment. My mental health went down so much. The money is nothing and u deal with so much abuse
We want to radicalize them to form their own American T group. Obviously, that is the only motivation that could underlay such a tremendous and profound failure to provide an education to U.S. students.
He's somewhat of a simpleton.
@@berrybayy Seen that vid of the teacher who keeps getting pepper sprayed by a student, because he took her phone, and he can just stand there and do nothing? What a day in America.
Wow. As an educator, no way I would ever consider teaching in Texas after hearing that! Good strategy, Texas.
It’s good to see teachers standing up for themselves and not accepting the toxicity and disrespect in these districts.
They say it’s causing harm to our students, but they don’t think packing a room of 30 plus does that?
Now ALL young teachers should think TWICE before teaching AT ALL in Texas
Yep, I'll bet Abbot's decision really helped to lure more teachers into Texas schools, lol.
“It’s doing harm to our students” yes teachers quitting is what’s harming kids, not education culture these days or the data obsession or anything like that.
Lack of everything (including things as important as toilet paper in the bathrooms) is starting to get teachers burned out enough that they just give up on the fact that they can't change the broken system, so they leave instead.
@@RJelly-fi6hd it’s exactly why I’m changing careers soon.
they refuse to hold themselves accountable to they pin it all on teachers. Fix your crappy education systems
Teacher's will need two year's to recover from the oppression. Take their certificates for a year. I'm proud of the teachers who are walking out in their truth. I'm right behind you. 🙋🏾♀️
A certificate/credential is something a teacher earns outside of the school district. How can a district legally suspend something they earned?
Lawsuits will fly.
You would think so , huh?! But districts do it al the time.
They can suspend it for a year or until the end of the year. I advise Texas teachers to come to CA. We are not just LA and Frisco but so many great areas in between with high pay and strong unions. Don't put up with Texas.
@@fremontpathfinder8463 No doubt. That's awful. At least come to southern cal and make 112k while you half-hate your job.
@@misterb1132 I don't make that as a teacher in So Cal. I make 90,000 and love my job.
They can "report it" to the teaching commission who is the authority that ultimately issues the credential...so the district can't do it but they can report it and thr teaching commission usually obliges...even when you get your credential from your school, the school doesn't give it to you, they just verify that you've went through an accredited program and completed all thr requirement and recommend you for the credential to the commission unlike a diploma where you get that directly from the university (a school district/credentialing commission can't take your bachelors degree or diploma from your
credential progeam)...in theory you could successfully complete your entire credential program at your university and the teaching commission could still deny your credential (rarely happens, but jt would happen say if you were found out to be a sex offender or something)...that being said, it's bullshit and shouldn't happen but thats the idea behind it
Good old Texas. Revoke licenses SO there are fewere eligible teachers who may decide to come back when the state improves the conditions. Smart. 😳🙄
I think the tree must have fallen on Abbot's head.
yes, because it's a good thing to have people in the middle of an emotional crisis to stay in the classroom. These teachers have been pushed to breakdowns. As a teacher of 30 years my advice is to run!
So instead of putting in measures to retain teachers they're threatening their licenses. Typical
It is never in a school's or student's best interest to force a teacher to be there when he/she does not want to be there.
It's causing harm to our students but these districts do not to students that threatened or hit teachers. Admin does NOTHING but give these a snack or an iPad then send them back.
Omg, you just described the situation at my school with the snack and ipad all in one sentence!
Yeah the kid gets am award for expressing himself
Snickers bars for all the classroom disrupters!!! That’s how it rolls around Houston!
Saw an unbelievable interview about 6 months ago with a Texas education professor who advocated letting those with only AA or AS degrees teach in the classroom and having robots assist teachers. I am not kidding. That's what he said. When I emailed him about the interview and brought up better pay and benefits, he would not address that. Absolutely disgusting. So they think punishing teachers more will bring more into the field? These teachers need to sue.
Kids will be taught with TikTok and ChatGPT. The wave of the future.
Make schools and classrooms safe again for the teachers and pay them better you wouldn't have this problem.
How much should they be paid?
@@TheCoon1975 , enough to put up with other people's bad ass kids.
@@TheCoon1975
As much as we pay our athletes politicians & Rock stars would be a start.
@@TheCoon1975 Well in the US on average you'd need 22$ hourly, so that's a good baseline. But also teachers do a lot outside of the classroom, so either they stop overtime or they pay for the overtime. I'd say at lowest it should be 75,000$ a year
@@NANA-su5ql
Yup 🎯
The solution to address the teacher shortage problem is very simple...... GET RID OF RESTORATIVE JUSTICE, hold parents accountable for their child's actions, get dirty politics out of the school...
Absolutely. I left because I was no longer teaching, I was simply a crowd-control. Behavior is through the floor.
They are trying to adress the problem with foreigners, like me, I'm mexican, but I'm really reconsidering to go to Dallas as a high school teacher, I don't thing is worth the initial investment and the sacrifice once you're there, I'm nt starving yet so no problem
@@yoganandavalle oh you can certainly teach SPANISH......there's a shortage of Spanish teachers too... in fact, America is in shortage of everything
das rascis
Is teaching a profession or is it signing a contract of enslavement? America is in dark times....
I have been a teacher for 34 years and I plan to retire this year. I tell anyone who is thinking of becoming a teacher that if you feel you have a calling, the way a priest or nun may feel they are being "called", then yes, become a teacher, but if you don't feel that being a teacher is why God put you on earth, then chose a different career, chose ANYTHING else.
God forbid we just PAY THEM A LIVING WAGE!!!!
How much do you think an entry level teacher makes in a public school? You can go to your districts website and see their pay rates and for a job that only requests a 2 year degree they are already payed well above the average salary for someone with that level of education. This idea that they are working for slave wages is ridiculous.
@@TheCoon1975 I looked it up and you're right. I assumed that the horror stories I've heard of teachers earning $30k or less a year were true but according to my research most public school teachers earn more than $50k a year despite not having to work a multitude of holidays and having 2.5 months off every summer. This throws a wrench into my perception of the issue and makes me begin to view teachers more as spoiled brats than unsung heroes.
@@CHARIOTangler Teachers may be paid well in your district, but throughout the state pay is different. Their pay depends on their school district. I am in Louisiana with two bachelor degrees and a masters and with 20 years experience, making $41K a year. Teachers also work many hours after school and on the weekends grading papers and planning lessons, work extra-curricular activities outside of school for the students, and take classes throughout the summer all unpaid. We also spend our money on school supplies that we would not have otherwise. Therefore, you may want to research the problem before you respond.
@@TheCoon1975 It's "paid", not "payed".
It's bot even that...I know what I was gonna make going into it...its about the inability to do our jobs effectively due to the ridiculous politics...id happily take 10 grand less a year for 5 kids less per class and have my classroom supplied with basics
Parents: You're ruining our children, educating them about things we don't want them to know.
Teachers: Fine. You do it.
Parents: Wait, what?
Teachers: Take your kids back home. You do it. We're done being your babysitters.
Parent: What does that have to do with anything?
Parents hand them an electronic babysitter, so they can then be free to go veg out in front of their own. Gee, that Disney+ sure is something, and wow, it's called "Max" now? Everyone thoroughly zombified. Murica 2023.
I retired early and teach online for a different country now. Competition!!! Why should teachers be the last ones left holding onto our broken schools? Abandon Ship! It's sinking! Find a better team with shared purpose. Everyone is on a different team in Texas. Time to accept that fact. Other countries/states are very interested in highly qualified teachers. And nobody treats their teachers as badly as Americans. My current students will probably be the bosses for American kids one day. They are getting a far better education anyway. My new team has a shared sense of purpose. It is light years away from the inept, blame game, American education system. Competition!!!
I’d love to learn more about your virtual teaching job! Do you mind sharing the name of the program?
Ied like to hear about this as well.
I'm thinking about teaching in another country. Just trying to figure out which one.
Resigned because: "Kids brought weapons to school"
@@cordfortina9073 it’s actually sick that I heard that before. Student was a danger to me and other students. Bullied and threw sharpened pencils at another girl. Threatened to hurt me and acted like he was going to. And the principal actually said that BS to me. The following week I never came back.
Why keep someone there who isn't happy with their job. It harms the students as well. If they don't want these types of issues they should value and respect teachers more!
Teaching: Not for the faint of heart :-(
Suspension doesn't address the issues at all and it backfires in the long run. Suspension is another reason they're losing teachers and people are choosing not to go into education.
Right, suspend it for a year and they'll go find a new job and NEVER come back...
@@MarkSmithhhh correct and thank you.
Teachers aren't your indentured servants. Bye!
So instead of fixing the issues, threaten the teacher. Smh
Oh that makes a lot of sense don’t let them teach anywhere why don’t you fix what’s wrong with your district
Teachers are no longer respected and admin is downloading crap on their staff. Enough is enough! No more consequences is the most foolish thing they have ever done. More will leave. That schoolboard is useless. Bravo to the math teacher. Stand up for your rights.
I left nyc teaching years ago...i could care less if they go after a license that i will never use....teaching is a trashy and dangerous job...especially in the south bronx.
Blame the teachers???!!! Don’t you think there’s a REASON they’re quitting? Nobody quits a job because of great work culture, administrative and colleague support, inspiring work, reasonable workload, pay that enables one to live on par with other professionals in the community, achieve a work/life balance, and in the teaching field, have the cooperation and involvement of parents and students. Happy and healthy teachers do not quit except in cases of necessity like physical incapacity or a relocation having higher priority, ie. The teacher falls ill with terminal disease, a spouse in the military is transferred, or elderly parents require live-in or nearby assistance.
Instead, when teachers quit, there’s a toxic work environment, no support or even opposition of administration and colleagues, micromanaged work, unreasonable or impossible workload so that work/life balance is not possible, insufficient pay significantly below the level of other professionals in the community so that it is necessary to work one or more second jobs, and the disdain and blame for everything wrong in education on the part of the parents and students. Teachers coping with such conditions often resign because their mental and physical health is in jeopardy. Some even tough it out until their health fails.
To further punish such teachers BY DEPRIVING THEM OF THEIR SOURCE OF LIVELIHOOD IS REPREHENSIBLE AND EVIL.
Instead, the powers that be from school boards, administration, county, state, on up to federal officials need to get together with teachers, parents, educational support personnel like psychologists, psychiatrists, physicians, social workers, clergy, and even students to fix the problem. Call in educators from countries with public educational systems that work. Be open to critique and be willing to change. The current system is broken. It needs changing, and FAST!
If conditions don’t change, we look forward to a future of failure.
Most teachers are women; consequently no one listens to them, dismisses them, interrupts them, underpays them, and then blames them for all the problems.
It's not much of a disincentive to say "we're holding your teaching certificate for a year" when you don't want to do that job anymore anyways.
They suspended 300 certs so they're going to be short 300 teachers this year.....
The multi-billion dollar question should be “why are teachers leaving by the thousands?!?” They are treated with no dignity/respect, zero support for discipline problems and either zero raises or significantly “lower than inflation” raises which means they get poorer by the year!!! The school districts are just fine with the teacher shortages, the position stays unfilled and doubles class sizes for other teachers, which saves the district money or they fill the position with a low paid substitute which saves them money!!! They have to act bothered by it all, but it’s an act. Doubling class sizes overworks the remaining teachers so they will be quitting in 1-2 years......then what? Texas?!? The education system is collapsing! Teachers with integrity will retire or quit and you’re left with unqualified educators! Where does that get you?!? Your lack of raises along with Biden’s massive inflation not only cheats teachers out of regular pay, but cheats them out of retirement money that is based on income when they retire!!!
Maybe they need to treat teachers better and the reasons education in crisis first.
Seems like the DOE and the Board care more about punishing teachers who've left than helping those that stay.
I doubt many tears are being shed by those who are told they can't teach in the chaos called Texas public education.
The administrators do not support the teachers . We should look at what the administrators are doing wrong . As a teacher in LAUSD in California my experience is that the principals do not support the teachers .
Since schools and districts don’t hold up their end of the contract, why should teachers?
Schools don’t adhere to class size, or follow school-wide behavior plans, teachers having planning times/ periods taken away, having to work through lunches.
Schools are acting like cooperations and the “workers” are being taken advantage of
I had a wonderful Principal and vice Principal and retirement was my out. So thankful I was able to retire with a small pension. Totally feel for my colleagues and the frustration they are experiencing. (I moved to Europe where I could afford health care and housing and a car on my pension)
What does health care cost in Europe? Do you have health insurance or how does it work?
So instead of listening to teachers in order to retain them, you punish them, ban them from teaching again, and then wonder why you have a shortage of people willing to teach? The sheer stupidity just baffles me.
You know any job that forces you to sign a contract isn't going to be good...
I have a crazy Idea! How about you pay them more??????
Everybody says pay teachers more, it’s all talk. when it’s out of their pockets, they disagree with better for teachers.
It's so much more than pay, although pay is a big part. Lack of consequences for students is also huge. If they had paid me a million to teach an extra year beyond my retirement, I wouldn't have done it. The stress of that job was too much!
Just reinforces the idea, that everyone, at their job, is replaceable so don't kill yourself over it.
Soon teachers will be offered free home ownership, free counseling, and a significant pay raise. They deserve all of it and more!
Wow. I wanna teach in a state that will punish me if I quit because the job is too much for me. NOT.
Wait, freedom loving abott supports punishing people who quit their job. Supply and demand doesn’t apply for education. Well. At least republicans are consistent. 😂😂
As a teacher, it shouldn't be legal to take away a teachers license/or certificate. You have to take classes or earn points to get a license. That's crazy. Their punishing teachers, let's people know they never cared for them. People quit jobs all the time, you don't hear of their certificate or credentials taken away because of it.
Let's means let us. You do not obtain a license because of points. Teaching is not like playing a video game. .
Not enough teachers? Punish the ones who are suffering! /s. I know several former Texas teachers. Not one of them is sorry to be in a better life now.
All those teachers that resigned should get together and create a Brand New Virtual School and forget about public schools.
Forcing teachers to teach only works if they want to stay in the profession. Instead of threatening teachers, why not work on education reform? Get truancy and student violence under control. Put money into building maintenance. Stop administrative abuse of office so that administrators aren't allowed to abuse teacher evaluations as punitive tools. Pay teachers more. Stop adding more responsibilities without ever once reducing teacher workloads. Stop cramming students into our classes and asking teachers to give up their prep times to cover for absent colleagues. Build an inclusive school community. Reform the way school districts are run by requiring minimum qualifications for school board members. Help building administration keep in touch with teaching by requiring each administrator to teach at least one class pet semester.
This is insane. Those teachers earned those certifications - they must not have them revoked for quitting. What other profession does this? And these Texas republicans say they are for "freedom" and against "government oppression" (those terms must mean something different to them than they do me).....And what parent or kid would want teaching to be done by people who hate being teachers but can't leave? Do these government and school board people in Texas simply not have the ability to think of what the implications of their decisions are? And who would want to be become a teacher in Texas if the penalty for quitting your job has such severe implications?
I’m guessing that you were not aware that liberals have been running the education system for 50+ years! Schools have no discipline and emotionally disturbed kids are put in the regular classrooms to constantly disrupt! This is liberal thinking, not conservative thinking!!! Public schools can’t turn away illegal immigrants that can’t speak the language, disruptive to the classroom! Democrats demand this! I’m guessing analytical thinking isn’t your strong suit!!!
They are trying to adress the problem with foreigners, like me, I'm mexican, but I'm really reconsidering to go to Dallas as a high school teacher, I don't thing is worth the initial investment and the sacrifice once you're there, I'm nt starving yet so no problem
I no longer teach because I spent so much time dealing with behavioral issues. You cannot pay me enough.
🤔 do I want to spend 4 years studying for a profession with those stipulations? Nope, next please
Was is it only teachers who are held accountable!!! Terrible. They obviously don’t want to be teachers anymore anyway. 🙄😂😡 God forbid they give us substantial raises and respect.
......"causing harm to the students." The stress, huge responsiblitiy, accountability, student and parent behavior, are causing horrible stress to teachers!
Students are causing harm to their teachers, Parents are causing harm to their teachers, admins are causing harm to their teachers....problem?
When you realise that you are actually a slave. In ancient Greece in Athens, teaching was a proffession assigned to slaves. Slaves were the teachers of children. They were also given a small amount of money, they had some free time, maybe even more than today's teachers and they were granted free entrance to the theater. they had also the right to leave but it wasnt easy, they had to go to the temple and stay there until someone else decides to employ them in a different job.
That’s so sad considering teaching is the most noble profession.. we should respect teachers the most
Many teachers are feeling like they are being bullied to the point of quitting. These TEA threats only validate their cause. TEA should stand for: Threatening Educators Always. Yeah, that will solve teacher shortages, suspend their licenses to teach. TEA should get an award for coming up with the dumbest solution to solve their problem.
Add the threat as a risk and disadvantage in the teaching profession and another reason for quitting.
Part of the problem is how schools are funded and how teachers are paid. Funding needs to come from the state not just the county.
Bullying needs to be handled correctly. Continuing to allow troublemakers at the school isn't helping anyone. Kids are arming themselves to fight other kids.
The bullies are the people in charge, setting an excellent example for the students.
THATS the way to keep teachers! LOL
so... okay... if there is a teacher shortage and you're revoking teaching licenses... how's that going to work out exactly? it sends a message to people coming into the profession that they are trapped in an unhappy and more importantly potentially unsafe environment (because of all the new cases of violence against teachers) once they sign the contract with a school district. and will potentially restrict those teachers who have already /been/ teaching from returning to work even if conditions ever improve (they probably wont lol).
Every school that fails to have security to protect the facility and student body should not have any educators. You should have to live in the community to teach in.
Vote blue Texas
Run these thugs out of office
GO BETO GO!!
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The bluer things go, the less I'd want to be a teacher!
Go to California, you'll be happier there.
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I am a Texan get over it.
😂 what an idiot a blue state is the last thing we need
Those teachers worked hard to get their degrees and license! How can you take that away from them 😡
This makes perfect sense, of course you suspend a teacher's license while at the same time you need more teachers ! L O L
This is a horrible mess.
I changed majors because of this. The TEA needs to be reformed and depoliticized.
Want teachers?? Kill the districts of innovation, better health benefits, don't bully teachers into working more than 8 hours, holidays or vacations, if they don't want to, let us form a union!! And kill that 90-year rule to retire !! Better healthcare benefits after retirement. I rather have more benefits than a high salary! districts need to be more pro-teachers !! Time to unionize !!!
Teacher: "I quit!"
Administration: "If you quit you will never work as a teacher again!"
Teacher: "Maybe you don't quite understand what "quit" means?"
"...it's causing harm to the students." But you don't care about the harm the system is causing to teachers!!! There is the problem. You can't sacrifice one group of people for another. Go ahead and threaten teacher certificates. All you will do is increase the teacher shortage in Texas.
I suggest those teachers who are affected form a class action for violating their constitutional rights.
So they're expected to take abuse from parents and students, work in stressful environments with unrealistic expectations and then be bullied into staying in that job or risk losing a certificate they earned? Yeah... Why would anyone choose to be a teacher nowadays? We have to do better by our educators.
This reminds me of something decades ago. In 1981 Reagan fired over 11,000 striking air traffic controllers.
American education, the "high stakes" gamble we lost.
Teachers should get a medical excuse to quit so they don't get their licenses suspended
That's what a few teachers did. They wore heart monitors and recorded the stress of teaching. I personally know of 1 woman who used this reason to quit in December...her health was at stake.
Once a teacher is pushed this far to quit they do not care about the ramifications. Once you leave the classroom you are gone and not looking back. I totally get it.
Retribution? Anyone in fear for their health and safety should be able to leave their jobs. Exception would be military and police since that is what you your job consists of.
Instead of addressing the issues of violence against teachers, administrators, staff and students, just blacklist them.
Wow
Perhaps Texas should consider a military style draft to get people to teach our mouthy, abusive, and sometimes dangerous kids.
Love that idea!
notice they wont hold the parents that accountable
As a teacher from Australia who met some teachers from the US I am in no doubt why they are leaving the profession. Pay them much better wages- a living wage, some demanding more from people who are giving it everything they have and do something about the safety of them in their jobs!!
How the hell is this legal. You should be able to quit a job and seek employment somewhere else using your license.
“The beatings will continue until morale improves.” Hey, Texas, YOU CAN’T DO THAT! 🙄