Great interview. Not the first guy to say that too much budget often gets wasted on expensive poor choices that don’t make it onscreen, neither. Sounds like professional integrity and sticking to the job can easily become ‘just get the money, run and have fun’ in this industry. Quite eye opening. Thanks.
As always... An amazing interview with Gene speaking from the heart. love listening to his stories. Hopefully one day I'll be able to talk about the small budgets and tight deadlines of the Art Department.
"It's nice to have sufficient funds....having sufficient money is the best. Too much money is not good. It's nice but it's not good for the film. Too much money tends to ruin movies." Absolutely fantastic point that isn't made often enough.
Thanks for the video I’m sad to hear of his passing he seemed like a cool guy with good stories and it’s cool he took the time to share his experiences. It’s nice to hear he passed away in his home. That’s how I would like to go rather then a hospital
I love gene, and miss him, what a legend I grew up watching him on the terminator dvd special features, and the skotak brothers, just such great artists, super underated, and the film industry, in my opinion, threw these great, beautiful, artists in the bin, and look how shit films looks now, you guys stuff still holds up!!
@@inhumanmusic1411 Not even close to half, as only the space dock shots at the beginning of the movie were reused. Plus all new uniforms had to be designed and created. They did make use of the TMP set pieces though, and kept the majority of the action on those sets rather than having to build too many others.
Apparently, during a break from his 2billions Avatar sequels, Cameron took time to supervise the new 4K restorations and transfers for both Abyss and True Lies (John Landau confirmed to me, during the promotional tour for Alita, that Cameron WAS working on it. But Darth Mouse buying Fox halted it for a time). He's supposed to supervise the brand new bonus material AND might even FINALLY give us the extended cut for True Lies. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
I met Gene back in 1982 when I was covering the film Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone. I took pictures of all the models and he told me I should come back soon because they would be working on a film which he said was going to be great, called Terminator. So I got to see and photograph the models like the tank and the Flying HK (Hunter Killer) and that was a real experience.
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They mention in the "Waterworld" video that they got the submarine that appears in the movie from Gene Warren. I wonder if it was the submarine from "Going under" they used?
I really wish they could have included some clips from the actual productions. Surely there were some fair use cases? Stills alone don't tell me what the result really looked like.
I prefer to use the stills from the model shops, or model shop footage. Showing the finished shots just brings trouble from the studios. I've had to take down a couple segments only because I showed a still of a finished shot. But, I can usually fly under the studio radar by avoiding clips. You can find all the scenes elsewhere here on RUclips.
Hey piercefilm productions... any chance of seeing material from Rob Bottin? That man just up and disappeared. Last thing I heard he was in real estate?
As much as I love his make up effects work, this doc is only about miniature effects. Would be cool if someone else started a similar style doc about make up effects people to record their stories.
His critics his that, with big budget films, most of the money is often spent BEFORE they get to the technical and SFX aspects of the movie. BUT with Avatar MOST of the budget was for the technical and SFX part of the film (hence Cameron's rule for NOT hiring Stars... aside from ones that are already his friends like Schwarzy). As for the Star Wars postlogy, I'd blame the Studio and Kennebitch's interferences during the writing and the editing.
@@MrRandomcommentguy I have to disagree. You are probably referring to the pre-Kelvin timeline films (that started with Star Trek 2009). Their biggest budget was the last one (Nemesis) with $60M. But with the Kelvin timeline, the last 3 films, budgets were between $150M and $190M.
I find funny the director of the documentary shows models from The Abyss, when the guy says that, sometimes, to much money is bad for the movie... If there's ONE director that knows how to spend the money to get it on the screen, it IS James Cameron !
Yes, but he's talking about what is leftover from the budget after producers and star actors like Dicaprio have spent millions on parties. The post production effects houses get a smaller chunk of money and have to stretch that! If that money hadn't been wasted, more could be done.
@@piercefilm Yes, I know what you mean. BUT Cameron almost never hires "stars" for his films (aside from Schwarzy for T2 and True Lies). Most of them become stars AFTER shooting with Cameron (Dicaprio became one with Romeo + Juliet then Titanic, but R+J hadn't been released when Titanic was shot). Besides, he's so focused on the technical side of his films that, with Cameron, actors' feelings are less important than the Historical accuracy or the plausible technology shown on his movies. Anyone shooting with Cameron know they'd better not behave like spoiled brats, because there's only one King (of the World) on set: James freaking Cameron 🤣! I DO believe that Cameron (and probably guys like Lucas, Spielberg and (as an actor/producer) Cruise) is an exception to this behaviour he's talking about.
Many films are filmed at the Malta studio, but not the films in this segment. Gene Warren had his own water tank. And the Salton Sea near Los Angeles was also used.
Practical fx technically can be cheaper and more controlled for the story's sake..while they are a big asset they do have limits over cgi. but I think those limits help tell a better story..example..star wars original vs phantom menace..you get where I'm going with this?
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Great interview. Not the first guy to say that too much budget often gets wasted on expensive poor choices that don’t make it onscreen, neither. Sounds like professional integrity and sticking to the job can easily become ‘just get the money, run and have fun’ in this industry. Quite eye opening. Thanks.
As always... An amazing interview with Gene speaking from the heart. love listening to his stories. Hopefully one day I'll be able to talk about the small budgets and tight deadlines of the Art Department.
Apparently the master of dry humor as well. Excellent insight and jaw dropping set photos make for another great segment. Well done sir
I love this stuff! In my earlier life, I would’ve loved to have been part of the practical effects world.
These little docs are awesome! Please don’t ever stop.
Thanks for watching! Still have some more fun stuff coming up, but it will have to end soon...
We can do great things with CGI, but the power of pure craftsmanship like you see here is gone. Brilliant skills!
That large scale building at 2:15 is just amazing -- beautifully done!
That's from Arlington Road.
"It's nice to have sufficient funds....having sufficient money is the best. Too much money is not good. It's nice but it's not good for the film. Too much money tends to ruin movies." Absolutely fantastic point that isn't made often enough.
Thanks for the video I’m sad to hear of his passing he seemed like a cool guy with good stories and it’s cool he took the time to share his experiences. It’s nice to hear he passed away in his home. That’s how I would like to go rather then a hospital
Legend
Gene will always be a #MasterofSpecialPhotographicEffects and #MasterofCinema
I love gene, and miss him, what a legend I grew up watching him on the terminator dvd special features, and the skotak brothers, just such great artists, super underated, and the film industry, in my opinion, threw these great, beautiful, artists in the bin, and look how shit films looks now, you guys stuff still holds up!!
Proof of concept: Wrath of Khan was made for a fraction of the budget as The Motion Picture, and shot by Paramount's television division to boot.
It was so cheap because half of the space shots were reused shots from TMP.
@@inhumanmusic1411 Not even close to half, as only the space dock shots at the beginning of the movie were reused. Plus all new uniforms had to be designed and created. They did make use of the TMP set pieces though, and kept the majority of the action on those sets rather than having to build too many others.
I wish someday The Abyss was on blu ray
Apparently, during a break from his 2billions Avatar sequels, Cameron took time to supervise the new 4K restorations and transfers for both Abyss and True Lies (John Landau confirmed to me, during the promotional tour for Alita, that Cameron WAS working on it. But Darth Mouse buying Fox halted it for a time). He's supposed to supervise the brand new bonus material AND might even FINALLY give us the extended cut for True Lies. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
@@jean-mi1825 Sweet! Looking forward to it!
Spot on. Too much money is truly a problem.
having done Crow 2 will you be able to interview the people who worked on the original? That had some killer models
It would be great to interview Gus Ramsden who supervised the miniatures for The Crow. Not sure where he is or how to contact him, though.
I met Gene back in 1982 when I was covering the film Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone. I took pictures of all the models and he told me I should come back soon because they would be working on a film which he said was going to be great, called Terminator. So I got to see and photograph the models like the tank and the Flying HK (Hunter Killer) and that was a real experience.
Do you still have your photos of the models? I'd love to see them.
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he's so right, too much money can ruin a film very quickly 👍
I need to see movies that use this again.
👏 #MasterofSpecialPhotographicEffects
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They mention in the "Waterworld" video that they got the submarine that appears in the movie from Gene Warren. I wonder if it was the submarine from "Going under" they used?
0:33 love that smoggy city
I remember staying up late to watch The Beast on NBC.
I really wish they could have included some clips from the actual productions. Surely there were some fair use cases? Stills alone don't tell me what the result really looked like.
I prefer to use the stills from the model shops, or model shop footage. Showing the finished shots just brings trouble from the studios. I've had to take down a couple segments only because I showed a still of a finished shot. But, I can usually fly under the studio radar by avoiding clips. You can find all the scenes elsewhere here on RUclips.
maybe you could include some links to the relevant clips/action sequences
@@MrBobbykole ruclips.net/video/2tEfwFu648Y/видео.html
Interesting guy to listen to.
What is that scene 2:32 from the stars colliding? I've seen that somewhere but can't place it.
Spacehunter (1983)
@@piercefilm That's it! Thank you!
Hey piercefilm productions... any chance of seeing material from Rob Bottin? That man just up and disappeared. Last thing I heard he was in real estate?
As much as I love his make up effects work, this doc is only about miniature effects. Would be cool if someone else started a similar style doc about make up effects people to record their stories.
@@piercefilm True!
What film is that house with pool from (at 4:50)? It looks so familiar, but I can't place it.
Scream 4, I think.
"Too much money tends to ruin movies." Avatar, Star Wars Sequel Trilogy... yup. Very true.
@SciFi Author B.L. Alley none of those actually had particularly high budgets hence the Enterprise interior being composed mainly of a brewery...
His critics his that, with big budget films, most of the money is often spent BEFORE they get to the technical and SFX aspects of the movie.
BUT with Avatar MOST of the budget was for the technical and SFX part of the film (hence Cameron's rule for NOT hiring Stars... aside from ones that are already his friends like Schwarzy).
As for the Star Wars postlogy, I'd blame the Studio and Kennebitch's interferences during the writing and the editing.
@@MrRandomcommentguy
I have to disagree.
You are probably referring to the pre-Kelvin timeline films (that started with Star Trek 2009). Their biggest budget was the last one (Nemesis) with $60M. But with the Kelvin timeline, the last 3 films, budgets were between $150M and $190M.
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I find funny the director of the documentary shows models from The Abyss, when the guy says that, sometimes, to much money is bad for the movie... If there's ONE director that knows how to spend the money to get it on the screen, it IS James Cameron !
Yes, but he's talking about what is leftover from the budget after producers and star actors like Dicaprio have spent millions on parties. The post production effects houses get a smaller chunk of money and have to stretch that! If that money hadn't been wasted, more could be done.
@@piercefilm
Yes, I know what you mean.
BUT Cameron almost never hires "stars" for his films (aside from Schwarzy for T2 and True Lies). Most of them become stars AFTER shooting with Cameron (Dicaprio became one with Romeo + Juliet then Titanic, but R+J hadn't been released when Titanic was shot).
Besides, he's so focused on the technical side of his films that, with Cameron, actors' feelings are less important than the Historical accuracy or the plausible technology shown on his movies.
Anyone shooting with Cameron know they'd better not behave like spoiled brats, because there's only one King (of the World) on set: James freaking Cameron 🤣!
I DO believe that Cameron (and probably guys like Lucas, Spielberg and (as an actor/producer) Cruise) is an exception to this behaviour he's talking about.
All those hats and not one person was accidentally miniaturized.
That's what they bulit Malta Film Studios water soundstage with for.
Many films are filmed at the Malta studio, but not the films in this segment. Gene Warren had his own water tank. And the Salton Sea near Los Angeles was also used.
The worst kind of comedy. eg. not funny. lol
Practical fx technically can be cheaper and more controlled for the story's sake..while they are a big asset they do have limits over cgi. but I think those limits help tell a better story..example..star wars original vs phantom menace..you get where I'm going with this?
We still run practical fx on projects..cause they work