I've had a few reef factory bits of kit, in my experiencel they charge premium prices for tier 2 products and service. Kamoer offer a much more robust product line compared. Also, the amount of times RF equipment loses wifi compared to other manufacturers is in a order of magnitude.
This video is such HD I feel like I’m being held in Alex’s house while he information dumps on a product at me. The Review was so good I wasn’t even trying to find the door to escape
I have a mastertronic and a trident on separate tanks and I think the MT is great value for money considering all the tests it can do. If these were around the price of the trident NP for both units combined it would be a more reasonable price. Found your review really balanced Alex.
Thanks for doing this review I like a lot of things about Reef Factory and they’re bringing some innovative equipment - but some of these products need some more refinement. Automated testing isn’t easy and has a lot of moving parts, so I sympathize with the difficulty of what they’re trying to accomplish, but that’s a steep price If they had a smaller and more reliable Alk/phosphate tester that would be more than enough for my needs!
ive heard many have conection problems with reef factory devices, try buy a wifi extender and set it up near the aquarium. this worked for me and now i dont have any problem at all. well, exept a level sensor that decided to selfdestruct.
I bought a smart tester when it came out. I've had some trouble with mine and atm its getting repared at reef factory since the color reader stopped working. But I have replaced the glas twice over the past 12 months and the test results has been dead on with the hanna tester.
I have a few reef factory items. Dosing pumps seem fine and reliable. My ph probe constantly drifts and has proved unreliable… seems they innovate some great ideas, styling etc but just lack a bit of reliability in my mind compared to the offerings of similar costs. Agree with your point about the app. Seems it evolves with new products but isn’t updated on older items which does make it seem clunky.
How are your corals that colourful with 0.2 phosphate. I must be doing something wrong. Ive got a bit of downer on reef factory stuff. My ph monitor wont reconnect at all now after an update. Had it 3 years. Think ill pass on this tester then. Great review 👍
Mixed feelings regarding RF. I bought a ph meter which has been fine. Have a doser which is fine albeit flimsy. The kh keeper plus was a nightmare that would not test despite hours of headscratching on the forums & trying everything so that went back. Support was very poor. My beef is thr build quality. The items all look like they were made by harvey price during an arts & crafts therapy session, which at their price point is an issue.
The mastertronic has been ups and downs for me. When it works it's marvelous. However calibration has been tedious. Also mechanical items are consumables in the long run like the actuator and now the sensors xy. If they start to need replacing it almost seems like it's smart to get a new one cost wise. Would like to hear about reef factories customer support if you have experience with it. Focustronic have been hit/mis for me as in almost every time telling me to replace a mechanical item almost from the start.
RF support has always been spot on for me - helpful and don't quibble when it comes to replacing stuff. Lots of people in the comments with different experiences though!
All these water tester better get dialed soon or im just gonna buy a spintouch duo rig.....i use two tridents currently....theyre awesome but still requires a decent budget....if spintouch came down in price some and refills i think itd easily become the most prevalent tester we use
The kamoer reef master spa tests everything. Ca, mg, alk , nitrite, nitrate , phosphate and iron. Its not out yet in the uk but it looks promising and probably much better value for money than the smart tester .
I'm told D-D are considering it but it's likely to be slightly more expensive than the Mastertronic/Reefbot if it makes it to the UK. I'd pay a small premium if it was reliable - it's much smaller than the others...
Is there any reason to get this over an Apex, assuming I've not invested in any ecosystem? I'm currently looking at getting monitoring and automation going and I'm undecided between Neptune or Reef Factory.
I have no first hand experience with Apex but it's quite expensive and you can't just buy individual bits of kit as standalone - you have to buy the controller first. Whereas Reef Factory is different so you can just buy what you want and leave what you don't want.
Hated mine, had it for about 3 months and it was always way out. I also run the Hanna with the reference fluid and hanna was always spot on. I found the customer service rubbish. The app is horrible. For me was the worst purchase of the year I made. I use a trident and Alkatronic on other tanks so familiar with how these auto testers work, need calibrating etc. Only good thing was the LFS i used (Kraken Corals) were excellent and had the unit straight back. Sorry for negative's but I thought it was crap lol Oh, I also tried the magnesium and it never returned a result, apparently i had dodgy reagents.
You’ve got straight to the point, basically it’s crap 💩 Reef Dork just takes making a video just over 12 mins long without actually saying its crap 💩 but in a ‘politicly correct’ round about way thinks the same, but he is excepting freebies with the proviso of not being restricted in his honest opinion (stating the pros and cons) The thing is does he keep the crap freebies or return them, with a thank you but no thanks. 😂😂
@@johnbrand1893 He seems to be getting decent readings compared to hanna which makes me think my unit was duff but I found the overall experience, customer service etc pretty poor
There's no filter here and I have no obligations to RF or any other company - I can only give my own views based on my experiences and I'll always give balance in my reviewd. But I invited input from other users so people can see what other people think, not just me 🙂
There's no filter here and I have no obligations to RF or any other company - I can only give my own views based on my experiences and I'll always give balance in my reviewd. But I invited input from other users so people can see what other people think, not just me 🙂
@@ReefDork Fair enough, I was expecting you to respond, but you didn’t say if you keep the freebies you particularly don’t like, or do you just keep them because they’re free. 😂😂
Im not on my 3rd unit, after months of inconsistent results RF admitted that the cartridges don't work properly and had to change the cartridges in the hope of getting one that works (I believe this is also part of the hold up on release of the new reagents as they are having to design a whole new cartridge), on the 3rd set of cartridges i was finally getting reliable results then the photo sensor died. No apologies for the constant mess arounds with problem solving with them, nothing for the cost of having to return equipment. Conveniently every time I go on holiday it stops working. I was pretty happy with all my other RF kit but honestly this piece of equipment is dissapointing for such a high price point.
I purchased one and at first i loved it. But those errors started popping up in the 2-3 months after hooking it up range. Same with a friend. Identical errors. We both were able to return it for credit. Definitely dont recommend it as of today.
there terrible go buy a Hanna instead constantly off results from stained curvettes that was uncleanable, I went through 3 units before returning to lfs for a refund, they also have by far the worst customer service in the hobby, I also get the offline thing mentioned in the video, of the reef factory stuff I do use they will be phased out on my tank and won’t purchase from them again
@@davechippendale8998don’t do it you’ll regret it I was the same looked forward to getting it so much but then months of fighting to get my money back just stick to Hanna
I’ve had GHL, reef factory, D&D and Red Sea equipment, and frankly I’m very disappointed with all of them. They all have fairly poor build quality or significant flaws that look easily fixable. Frankly disappointed. The hobby has got better but could so easily do so much better!
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No intention of buying this but still enjoyable to watch an Alex review
Awesome review, honest, impartial, and more importantly - reasonable. You make great content, man.
I've had a few reef factory bits of kit, in my experiencel they charge premium prices for tier 2 products and service. Kamoer offer a much more robust product line compared. Also, the amount of times RF equipment loses wifi compared to other manufacturers is in a order of magnitude.
Also, it looks very similar to Xepta Autobalace like almost exactly the same...
I would have to agree.
Can confirm that. The Salintiy guardian is a pain...
And the Eco System seems a bit B Class for what youbhave to pay for the Devices.
@@MatixReef My friend uses the Xepta, says it looks cheap but works.
This video is such HD I feel like I’m being held in Alex’s house while he information dumps on a product at me. The Review was so good I wasn’t even trying to find the door to escape
I have a mastertronic and a trident on separate tanks and I think the MT is great value for money considering all the tests it can do. If these were around the price of the trident NP for both units combined it would be a more reasonable price. Found your review really balanced Alex.
Thanks for doing this review
I like a lot of things about Reef Factory and they’re bringing some innovative equipment - but some of these products need some more refinement.
Automated testing isn’t easy and has a lot of moving parts, so I sympathize with the difficulty of what they’re trying to accomplish, but that’s a steep price
If they had a smaller and more reliable Alk/phosphate tester that would be more than enough for my needs!
Thank you for the thorough review.
Thx you , this was great video !!
ive heard many have conection problems with reef factory devices, try buy a wifi extender and set it up near the aquarium. this worked for me and now i dont have any problem at all. well, exept a level sensor that decided to selfdestruct.
I'll buy a Hanna checker then - Thanks 😂👍
that's exactly what I took from the review !
Thanks for your review.
Pothead pro tip . if it needs cleaned you can heat it up red hot with a blow torch and it will burn anything off the glass.
Nice review good to know
Hold on ...new camera? The quality has gone up!
Interesting - this was shot with the camera I use for shooting the tank normally. Good to know it looks good 🙂
Agree, this video felt really well put together. Kind of like Bulk Reef Supply- without the "I'm trying to sell you something" vibes
@@ReefDork different lighting?
@@TrevorHillerlol
@@rudra7615 cheapo Amazon lightning 😅
I bought a smart tester when it came out. I've had some trouble with mine and atm its getting repared at reef factory since the color reader stopped working. But I have replaced the glas twice over the past 12 months and the test results has been dead on with the hanna tester.
I have a few reef factory items. Dosing pumps seem fine and reliable. My ph probe constantly drifts and has proved unreliable… seems they innovate some great ideas, styling etc but just lack a bit of reliability in my mind compared to the offerings of similar costs. Agree with your point about the app. Seems it evolves with new products but isn’t updated on older items which does make it seem clunky.
How are your corals that colourful with 0.2 phosphate. I must be doing something wrong. Ive got a bit of downer on reef factory stuff. My ph monitor wont reconnect at all now after an update. Had it 3 years. Think ill pass on this tester then. Great review 👍
Mixed feelings regarding RF.
I bought a ph meter which has been fine.
Have a doser which is fine albeit flimsy.
The kh keeper plus was a nightmare that would not test despite hours of headscratching on the forums & trying everything so that went back.
Support was very poor.
My beef is thr build quality.
The items all look like they were made by harvey price during an arts & crafts therapy session, which at their price point is an issue.
Great review! Quality stuff.
curious to know how this compares to the Trident NP
The mastertronic has been ups and downs for me. When it works it's marvelous. However calibration has been tedious. Also mechanical items are consumables in the long run like the actuator and now the sensors xy. If they start to need replacing it almost seems like it's smart to get a new one cost wise.
Would like to hear about reef factories customer support if you have experience with it.
Focustronic have been hit/mis for me as in almost every time telling me to replace a mechanical item almost from the start.
RF support has always been spot on for me - helpful and don't quibble when it comes to replacing stuff. Lots of people in the comments with different experiences though!
All these water tester better get dialed soon or im just gonna buy a spintouch duo rig.....i use two tridents currently....theyre awesome but still requires a decent budget....if spintouch came down in price some and refills i think itd easily become the most prevalent tester we use
The kamoer reef master spa tests everything. Ca, mg, alk , nitrite, nitrate , phosphate and iron. Its not out yet in the uk but it looks promising and probably much better value for money than the smart tester .
I'm told D-D are considering it but it's likely to be slightly more expensive than the Mastertronic/Reefbot if it makes it to the UK. I'd pay a small premium if it was reliable - it's much smaller than the others...
Salifert does me fine .
Is there any reason to get this over an Apex, assuming I've not invested in any ecosystem? I'm currently looking at getting monitoring and automation going and I'm undecided between Neptune or Reef Factory.
I have no first hand experience with Apex but it's quite expensive and you can't just buy individual bits of kit as standalone - you have to buy the controller first. Whereas Reef Factory is different so you can just buy what you want and leave what you don't want.
Hated mine, had it for about 3 months and it was always way out. I also run the Hanna with the reference fluid and hanna was always spot on. I found the customer service rubbish. The app is horrible. For me was the worst purchase of the year I made. I use a trident and Alkatronic on other tanks so familiar with how these auto testers work, need calibrating etc. Only good thing was the LFS i used (Kraken Corals) were excellent and had the unit straight back. Sorry for negative's but I thought it was crap lol Oh, I also tried the magnesium and it never returned a result, apparently i had dodgy reagents.
You’ve got straight to the point, basically it’s crap 💩
Reef Dork just takes making a video just over 12 mins long without actually saying its crap 💩 but in a ‘politicly correct’ round about way thinks the same, but he is excepting freebies with the proviso of not being restricted in his honest opinion (stating the pros and cons)
The thing is does he keep the crap freebies or return them, with a thank you but no thanks. 😂😂
@@johnbrand1893 He seems to be getting decent readings compared to hanna which makes me think my unit was duff but I found the overall experience, customer service etc pretty poor
There's no filter here and I have no obligations to RF or any other company - I can only give my own views based on my experiences and I'll always give balance in my reviewd. But I invited input from other users so people can see what other people think, not just me 🙂
There's no filter here and I have no obligations to RF or any other company - I can only give my own views based on my experiences and I'll always give balance in my reviewd. But I invited input from other users so people can see what other people think, not just me 🙂
@@ReefDork
Fair enough, I was expecting you to respond, but you didn’t say if you keep the freebies you particularly don’t like, or do you just keep them because they’re free. 😂😂
Im not on my 3rd unit, after months of inconsistent results RF admitted that the cartridges don't work properly and had to change the cartridges in the hope of getting one that works (I believe this is also part of the hold up on release of the new reagents as they are having to design a whole new cartridge), on the 3rd set of cartridges i was finally getting reliable results then the photo sensor died. No apologies for the constant mess arounds with problem solving with them, nothing for the cost of having to return equipment. Conveniently every time I go on holiday it stops working. I was pretty happy with all my other RF kit but honestly this piece of equipment is dissapointing for such a high price point.
I purchased one and at first i loved it. But those errors started popping up in the 2-3 months after hooking it up range. Same with a friend. Identical errors. We both were able to return it for credit. Definitely dont recommend it as of today.
there terrible go buy a Hanna instead constantly off results from stained curvettes that was uncleanable, I went through 3 units before returning to lfs for a refund, they also have by far the worst customer service in the hobby, I also get the offline thing mentioned in the video, of the reef factory stuff I do use they will be phased out on my tank and won’t purchase from them again
That sounds frustrating - I haven’t tried their more complicated products, but their PH meter is pretty sleek and reliable so I’ve been happy with it
I so want to get a Smart Tester; but my opinion of RF has gone through the floor. Advertising Standards should be looking at this.
@@davechippendale8998don’t do it you’ll regret it I was the same looked forward to getting it so much but then months of fighting to get my money back just stick to Hanna
@@davechippendale8998there terrible
And now they’ve updated the kh keeper and removed the ph reading,well done reef factory, they get worse and worse
And now they’ve updated the kh keeper and removed the ph reading, what a terrible company they just get worse and worse
I’ve had GHL, reef factory, D&D and Red Sea equipment, and frankly I’m very disappointed with all of them. They all have fairly poor build quality or significant flaws that look easily fixable.
Frankly disappointed. The hobby has got better but could so easily do so much better!
it does not seem like a smart tester to me, more like a dumb one for £600