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Hey fella, love the video’s. Just feel the need to ask you to please put a Photosensitive warning if you’re using that paparazzi edit. It’s pretty harsh with the flashing.
I find it odd they did not try to further investigate the boyfriend who's game character was literally the watcher. The DNA evidence found on the letter was said to female and his girlfriend was literally stalking the house in her car. She was probley dropping the letters off for him.
I agree with this theory. I also think maybe the previous owners may have had something to do with it. Find it odd that they would not keep a weird letter from someone thanking them for bringing someone new to a house. My problem with this, I can't find a motive for them.
The Watcher's scheme would never have worked on me. I barely check the mail and assume 99% of it is spam, and all my bills are paid online. He could have sent me the most horrifying, traumatizing letter imaginable, complete with like a severed finger or something, and I'd just be like "shut up Publisher's Clearing House, Pre-approved Hilton Rewards Card, and reminder from the New Jersey Board of Elections, into the trash you go."
I’m the same way! I do everything online; I don’t think I’ve actually opened my anything from my mailbox in about a year. I’d be completely oblivious to a watcher. Not that anyone would pick me to stalk, I’m the most boring person on earth. 😂😂
Exactly what I came here to say. I would refuse to leave my home for some punk who’s probably bluffing anyway. Ok, break in to my house to hurt my kids and see what happens.
I feel like about 90% of the channels I subscribe to has covered this story, but who in their right mind could pass up the chance of hearing it told by a mustache as glorious as this? Oh and the man behind the mustache as well!
Did Mr Ballen recount the tale? He is an excellent storyteller, of those involving horror, the occult and all manner of fantastical goings-on that happen on this Earth.
Honestly, if I started receiving letters like that I would first be amused and later frustrated. Probably would watch the mailbox and go talk to the guy leaving the mail, or, I don't know, start reading all the letters through a megaphone. Make a game of it, I doubt the "watcher" would DO anything, they're not called the doer after all.
So, the Broaddus sold the house in July 2019, but what about the new owners? Did they receive any letters? It's been two years since the sale. Or, maybe the new owner desperately wanted to buy the house, but at a lower price and played this entire game?
Like "I desperately want this house, but can't afford the asking price. So I'll scare the heck out of the new owners to make them sell the house at a price I can afford" ? Yeah, I thought about it too.
@@nathalie_desrosiers initially they didn't want to sell the house till the letters starting appearing. so , the house was not on sale when the letters started appearing.
@@someguyfromtheinternet5158 Better or worse depends partly on the disease itself, and partly on how it is treated, med compliance, etc. My schizophrenia continues to get better over time because I take my meds and see my therapist regularly. But there is some luck there, too. Meds don’t work the same for each person. I was just surprised at the phrasing the narrator used. You just don’t stop having schizophrenia, (though you may get it under control).
I did the plumbing work in that house back in the early 2000s during a major renovation. The owner of the construction company was a Scotch Plains Police Officer. I got a tip at the end of the job that consisted of a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue and season tickets to the Jets which I promptly sold.
@@aleynahallie9506 yeah I was like "oh yay" in my head 😆 I would have rather had gotten a cash tip especially considering the house was worth a million back in the early 2000s. White collar folks from Wall Street and such all wanted to have that Westfield NJ mailing address which inflated their sense of worth amongst their peers. Imo if you put that house in just about any other town at that point in NJ history it was 400 to 500k house tops and probably even less the further you got away from NYC and Central Jersey
Did this happen to the other owners afterwards? Because if not, then it had something to do with them. Either it was them themselves or someone in the neighbourhood didn't like them.
first is possible, but latter is impossible since they never moved. most likely it was the chick's boyfriend making the chick to put the letters on his behalf
Didn’t Obama buy a house in that neighborhood? He is, after all, an adherent of Weather Underground terrorists. Use your Google. And now he’s a multi-millionaire because of Netflix.
I don't know what's so interesting Scott this story to warrant making a movie or a series. It's just 3 creepy letters. Sure, in real life it'll creep me out, but it's fucking boring for a movie plot
Thoughty is the best channel on RUclips. He doesn't need to do fake ghost videos, he doesn't need to be hugely controversial or ram his videos full of sexual content. He just gives us funny, informative and incredibly witty videos. Long may it continue
@@tisjester NOT TO THE PERSON THAT CREATED THE STIGMA IT ISN'T If you understand what hes saying...that means the creep is actively trying to reduce the value and then swoop in, when noone else would bother anymore, and for cheep.
Seriously? After the first letter, I would have hired a professional security company with a very hidden camera facing the mailbox - that ran continually. Since it was handwritten, it had to have been hand delivered. Then I'd let the kids play on the porch for one hour - with a camera(s) covering all angles - along with a PI secretly in the house also watching. It may have cost some money, but if they wanted to flip the house, it would been easy after they caught 'the woman'. The theory that they were in over their head is plausible; if they can't afford the mortgage and taxes while living with the parents how would they afford it once they moved in - with utilities, etc to boot. Seems odd. I know the area - really seems odd.
15:56 to 16:30 The Girlfriend sitting outside the House was the person dropping off the letters for her Boyfriend THE WATCHER. Likely 2 young people playing a Game based on his Computor Game. Plus he never showed up for the Police Interogations. Just my Theory.
I’d have been tearing into the walls to see if there’s literally any skeletons in closets, or under floorboards, behind the walls. Basically take time off from work and stake out the place til I can hopefully figure out who it is.
@@Razer5542 nothing was ever found. personally I think it was either a scam to get the house relatively cheap or just the one neighbour looking straight at their house was a (luckily rather harmless) nutjob.
You chose your title very carefully, right? More careful than other titles? Had you said this was the story about "the watcher", you may have missed out on views due to people having listened to the story multiple times, but like me, others wanted to know why people wouldn't want to live in an expensive house. But great job, I was hooked even when I figured it out a few minutes in because unlike all those others who have told the story, I think you have an edge in story telling.
What I learned today is that it could save you a lot of money to find a home you want that is out of your range by a bit that is on the market and then do creepy shit with letters when someone moves in and get the house for several hundreds of thousands less in just a few years. I wonder if they ever did any investigating of the people who bought the house in the end for far less than it should have been worth.
The courier chases you down wherever you are in the world to deliver your newest letter from the watcher. There’s no escape until you solve the mystery and end it with your sword while trying not to take an arrow to the knee
I love this channel, today I started listening to his podcast at work! What a gem! I absolutely love it, had me laughing out loud on more than one occasion ❤️❤️❤️ your amazing mustache still shines through in podcast ! Haha ❤️❤️
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki your question was why do people like his mustache. The answer is because it’s a really great mustache. Idk 🤷🏼♀️ what you’re looking for nor do I care that you don’t like it. I love it and prefer him with it. 🤷🏼♀️ so ... have a good day lol
the pen truly can be mightier than the sword. putting pen to paper is a very minor task yet in the right hands it can plant a seed of concern that grows and blooms into fear. the power of suggestion is very much what authors media and radio have exploited from their beginning
I'm curious to know how thorough the investigation of the Langfords was. Just because the DNA didn't match Abby, doesn't mean it wasn't her mother, or that they weren't working together somehow. They are really the only ones in this story with the time, opportunities and patience for this kind of plot.
If it doesn't match to descendant it is nearly guaranteed to not match with parent as well. Because as you should probably know children share DNA with parents. In fact lots of murderers were found without ever taking their DNA but through the DNA of their genealogy. Most famous example is how golden state killer was found, they have never took his DNA as a suspect before they found him. So checking mother DNA would actually make near no sense if they checked daughter.
I already know it's going to be the Watcher. I've read the story, listened to the Buzzfeed Unsolved video about it. watched other videos about it. I will still freaking watch and listen to a new video about it.
A Ring doorbell system is a beautiful thing. Tape the door to the basement, cover all exits. Set up cameras at the exits. Also, the binoculars I know can’t zoom nearly far enough for the person to not have been close by if it was real.
I live in a high crime area, both me and my wife carry. I have a few cameras installed in the garage, driveway, side yard and backyard. If I'm not home and she's coming home late, she calls me to check the cameras while she parks so no one runs up on her. Recently went to Mexico and saw these beautiful homes with high walls but beautifully decorated and security spikes on top but done artfully so. Might check with the city and county to see if I can have something like that installed in my home.
I appreciate these videos! i cant wait untill i i can finally visit my family in England again after this Covid! We should link up then and ill buy you a drink mate!!
The Netflix show on this is honestly great. Give it a watch. Had no idea this video even pre-dates that. What's weirder is that I've been through the town this house was in. Nothing would ever make you suspect that something like this was happening in that area.
You should see Larry Lawton's manscape ad reads he's an older bald gentleman that was the largest jewel thief in America in the 1980s and did a long prison term. His ad reads are perfectly cut so it looks like he turns into a buff young model when he takes his shirt off and uses their products. I fast forward most ad reads but when I saw his I laughed hard
Ive heard this story so many times, its not funny. But this is the 1st time Ive heard it so well presented & researched with different & added content that I havent heard before. It made it so much more riveting. Thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Hell, I’d buy it, I already raised my kids, sold my house and am currently living and trying to take care of my elderly mother…things can’t be worse then they are now
@@angieou8127 had a look at his channel , as not the first time i read it in the comments on thoughty2 , he is good but too american and familiar . thoughty2 is on a different level .
Okay, I had a thought… The police literally looked at everyone in the neighborhood as a suspect, including the family that bought the house. But there are two people they never even thought to question or look at: the people who sold them the house. I know it makes no sense for them to terrorize the new owners, but since when do people make sense? It’s quite possible they were the ones sending the letters and it would explain why they never caught “the watcher”.
Just rig a camera to the back of the mailbox so when it opens it will take a picture, or even have a long-range camera looking at the mailbox and have it monitored 24/7, then send a nearby operative to take down the person putting in a letter.
The podcast is very interesting! I listen to it when taking my dog for walks or before falling asleep. The constant sound effects (which are fun 😆) sometimes wake me from my drifting slumber.. Granted, the sound bites don’t prevent me from wanting to absorb all of the compelling information that the podcast provides! Thanks Thoughty2 & everyone that’s involved in making these channels run!! I appreciate your hard work!!! 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Yeah, I've never enjoyed or been effected by horror stories, and this was no different. I feel sorry for the family, but it seems like a really demented practical joke.
@@dylanwolf Thanks. I learned the difference (noun or verb) and used to be aware of it when writing in college. Now I just hear the voice in my head use the everyday wrong pronunciation and I'm too lazy to think about it. (At least I get 'too' and 'to' right.) It's the same with lay and lie (which is transitive and which isn't), and hardware and underwear (but not werewolf). I'll leave it as is so others can see the error. My pet peeve is "there, their, and they're", but I have to remember that English is not the native language of many commenters. But I have no problem writing a sentence that I have to put a preposition at the end of. So sorry... I have no problem writing a sentence where I have to put a preposition at the end. (Yes, I do have a problem.) I also love the overuse of parentheses. (Only as an aside.) And sentence fragments.
@@derreckwalls7508 Most people who make mistakes with they, their and they're are actually native English speakers. Maybe because they sound similar? I'm ESL and I have never had any problems with those words. Neither have anyone that I know. Have seen lots of native English speakers doing that, though.
If the letters were being kept in the mail box, a Camera or a trap would have worked amazingly for the Broddua, dont you think. Something that would catch them for sure. Also the bf didn't come, doesn't mean the lead should be let go. If the cops were useless, the PI could still have asked around.
Not if you do not read the letters... this is like an asshole sending a comment on RUclips. It don't matter until it's real. Let the 'watcher' approach me and say that to my face, now we're talkin!
Mrs Richards: " I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?
I've heard this story before from Mr. Ballen and still listened to Thoughty2 tell it. Both tell it differently, but still a very cool and interesting listen and strange story. Neither gentlemen did a better job than the other. Very well told. 👍🏻
Those pesky "Let's split up and look for clues" kids would have found the culprit. Some talented individual should make the scooby doo ending for this. Edit: It was Baldy McShavedballs of the clan McManscaped.
I first heard about this one on the Casual Criminalist. You do great job of telling it as story while Mr. Whistler does a great job of presenting it in a more factual way.
Dude was an executive level manager at an Insurance company. Trust me - he has stacks and stacks. It may have been the MOTHER from next door, not the daughter. Maybe she had a personality like the GM from 'Flowers in the Attic'. There's a reason old women get called hags...
They should have rented it to some crazy-ass family for super cheap. Be like "listen you can do whatever you want outside in the yard and tear shit up, but please don't ruin the interior" if that worked. I can almost guarantee the local gov and neighborhood would change their minds about letting them divide the lot. It would be risky but funny as hell. broken down shit in the yard, fights, cops coming a couple times a week. The neighbors would be pissed haha
I go to Westfield all the time, nothing special, it’s just full of heroin addicts, Karens, and bad drivers, the only thing to do is go to Starbucks and leave
I would’ve been so intrigued to find out who this is. I’d set up a trap in the mailbox, or surveillance cameras, or some contraption that’ll trap the guy sending these mails.
I'm going to start a business where I live in these "unlivable" houses because they're stalked out haunted or whatever. I'd get paid to live in million dollar houses just to prove everything is fine.
Dear Sir, I have to confess I have binged on your videos for the past two days (since I was recommended your video). Is there a remedy for this addiction?
One constant was the letters in the mailbox. I’d some friends in a van down the street, watching in shifts till someone approached. We would have a kneecapping party in some woods FAR away from civilization
I'm sure Thoughty2 made a video about this a few years back. Certainly something extremely similar. I've watched nearly every video he's posted for years and immediately thought it was an old upload, so it shocked me this is new!
I’d move in, stay, and turn it into a soup kitchen/halfway house to pay the mortgage. Or maybe a temporary homeless shelter. Let the tightey whitey neighborhood marinate on that for awhile. 🤣
To me this sounds like a scam to get out of buying a house they thought they wanted . With all the investigations going on and not a single person or camera caught them putting mail in the box ? Very fishy ! .
@@lileofficial4273 if that was the case they would have said they were being delivered in the mail . You obviously didnt follow the evidence or pay attention .
@@lileofficial4273 and you believe the FBI and local police didnt look into that ?? If it went through the mail it would be able to trace it ! . wake up DUDE lol
@@MrCanuck78 bruh the fbi didnt get involved till much later, and your on my ass for 'not paying attention' lol anyways you sound like your confident in what you believe and any conversation/speculation with you about this would be wasted effort, so ill leave you with your theories and ill stick with mine. have a good one
I think the Watcher could've been the mailman, no one would suspect the one who delivers the mail to be the Watcher because it's too obvious. Also since the mailman would be delivering the mail all day, he would be around spying. If the hours of his shift match with Watchers activity hours, it confirms the mailman as the Watcher.
I would've moved in. This is clearly from someone trying to put fear in them. But, well... I already did pretty crazy things when I thought someone was trying to scare me at night at my parent's farm... And, in the end, it was owls. 😬
@@christineparis5607 imagine this... It's a farm in the middle of nowhere. No other houses in less than 1 mile, maybe more. Around 6 miles of the closest city (that is pretty small). A night without Moon, so pretty dark. Around midnight, my parents were already sleeping and I was in the living room working in my notebook. Then, from nowhere, I heard the craziest and horrible whistle from the outside... Like 3 feet out the door (that was closed). At first I thought I had worked too much and was hearing things, but then it repeated. I asked who it was, but nothing... Then it happened again and I asked again... Then, when it repeated next I got a piece of wood and went outside. 😐 And stayed there for a few minutes, then I heard it again, coming from the trees... So I decided to go to bed. 😬 The next day, late, I was talking with my father and we heard it again. I asked him what was it and he said it was a big and white owl. 🤷♂️
Just a random theory: What if the girl that stood suspiciously long in front of the house was the daughters of the family living behind their house whose boyfriend is this weird guy who plays video games. Even though this is just a theory everything would make sense, the girl would have delivered the papers that her boyfriend would write and from the house of her parents he would be able to watch them or sneak out and in when he needed it to. I wonder what you guys think about this theory, feel free to write your own or refine mine
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Hey fella, love the video’s. Just feel the need to ask you to please put a Photosensitive warning if you’re using that paparazzi edit. It’s pretty harsh with the flashing.
I find it odd they did not try to further investigate the boyfriend who's game character was literally the watcher. The DNA evidence found on the letter was said to female and his girlfriend was literally stalking the house in her car. She was probley dropping the letters off for him.
Yep! Sounds plausible! Good one!
He was probably playing the Witcher and she just got confused 🤣
You've cracked it!
He was playing this deeply disturbing game the watcher 3!
I agree with this theory. I also think maybe the previous owners may have had something to do with it. Find it odd that they would not keep a weird letter from someone thanking them for bringing someone new to a house. My problem with this, I can't find a motive for them.
"Their life, seemingly a dream, was about to become a nightmare." (dramatic pause) "Hey, guys! I just found a FANTASTIC new way to shave my bollocks!"
*their
*bottocks (just kidding)
Yes exactly. The emotional tone whiplash hurt my brain.
@@hansperil No...no...
@@hansperil given its a ball shaver I'm pretty sure he meant bollocks, and just fyi it's spelt buttocks, so you didn't even get that right 😂
The Watcher's scheme would never have worked on me. I barely check the mail and assume 99% of it is spam, and all my bills are paid online. He could have sent me the most horrifying, traumatizing letter imaginable, complete with like a severed finger or something, and I'd just be like "shut up Publisher's Clearing House, Pre-approved Hilton Rewards Card, and reminder from the New Jersey Board of Elections, into the trash you go."
Me as well. 🙏🇺🇲❤️
lol same. We have a PO box and check it like once a year.
Yep, that's me😂
I’m the same way! I do everything online; I don’t think I’ve actually opened my anything from my mailbox in about a year. I’d be completely oblivious to a watcher. Not that anyone would pick me to stalk, I’m the most boring person on earth. 😂😂
So relatable
Why didn’t they just set up a secret/hidden cameras around the place so they can see who puts the letters in the mailbox? 🤔
Yeah, the whole story sounds fishy.
facts lmao
@Excentryck why wouldnt they check from which mail is the watcher sending those letters?
@@gonzoales6271 The sender simply doesn't include a return address.
Good point. Must be a urban legend.
Had this happened in Texas, I think you'd find some very enthusiastic gun owners that would say "bring it on!"
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Exactly what I came here to say. I would refuse to leave my home for some punk who’s probably bluffing anyway. Ok, break in to my house to hurt my kids and see what happens.
"Fuck around and find out", id say as a foreigner, thats just badass. God bless the God & Gun Loving state of Texas.
That's why it happened in New Jersey.. Can't own anything there.. If it happened in Florida they'd be gator bait :-D
@Adolf Hitler Use a tank
This seems like an excellent way to get a home at an affordable price in this crazy market!
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY !!!
Then why did no one come forward for 5 years to buy it? And when they did, it was still for nearly a million.
I feel like about 90% of the channels I subscribe to has covered this story, but who in their right mind could pass up the chance of hearing it told by a mustache as glorious as this? Oh and the man behind the mustache as well!
yea I watched buzzfeed cover this a long Time ago
Did Mr Ballen recount the tale? He is an excellent storyteller, of those involving horror, the occult and all manner of fantastical goings-on that happen on this Earth.
@@dianeridley9804 Very likely, I can't remember seeing it by him but he's great!
I don't appreciate him trying to tempt us into shaving our balls for 5 minutes every time!
@@dianeridley9804 Yes he did... I think he went into more detail about it also...
If you can afford a million dollar house you can afford a home security system.
They did. Those details were left out.
@@nic4633 Did they have cameras?
@@usoseses550 he said they did in the video
Or guns and a weapons handling course for him and the wife.
@@usoseses550 yes
Honestly, if I started receiving letters like that I would first be amused and later frustrated. Probably would watch the mailbox and go talk to the guy leaving the mail, or, I don't know, start reading all the letters through a megaphone. Make a game of it, I doubt the "watcher" would DO anything, they're not called the doer after all.
"The Doer" xD
It wasn't delivered in person lol
I would be watching with binoculars from the dark until I find out who it is
So, the Broaddus sold the house in July 2019, but what about the new owners? Did they receive any letters? It's been two years since the sale. Or, maybe the new owner desperately wanted to buy the house, but at a lower price and played this entire game?
I think I remembered that the watcher didn't send any new letters to the new owners. I can't remember the article that I read this from.
Like "I desperately want this house, but can't afford the asking price. So I'll scare the heck out of the new owners to make them sell the house at a price I can afford" ? Yeah, I thought about it too.
@@nathalie_desrosiers what kind of scooby doo shit is this
@@nathalie_desrosiers initially they didn't want to sell the house till the letters starting appearing. so , the house was not on sale when the letters started appearing.
@@nathalie_desrosiers it’s happened before so I wouldn’t be surprised.
“Had schizophrenia when he was younger.” It’s not something you grow out of.
Yea I was thinking exactly that.
But it can be something you grow into, so having it when younger means long so possibly worse? I’m guessing ofc. No expert
@@someguyfromtheinternet5158 Better or worse depends partly on the disease itself, and partly on how it is treated, med compliance, etc. My schizophrenia continues to get better over time because I take my meds and see my therapist regularly. But there is some luck there, too. Meds don’t work the same for each person.
I was just surprised at the phrasing the narrator used. You just don’t stop having schizophrenia, (though you may get it under control).
Well it can gradually fade away or maybe he took regular medication to suppress it
I think he might have meant he was diagnosed when he was younger, or it was worse before
I did the plumbing work in that house back in the early 2000s during a major renovation. The owner of the construction company was a Scotch Plains Police Officer. I got a tip at the end of the job that consisted of a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue and season tickets to the Jets which I promptly sold.
I dont know why I find that so funny but being tipped a bottle of alcohol that im pretty sure is like $200 and jets tickets is very funny to me
@@aleynahallie9506 yeah I was like "oh yay" in my head 😆 I would have rather had gotten a cash tip especially considering the house was worth a million back in the early 2000s. White collar folks from Wall Street and such all wanted to have that Westfield NJ mailing address which inflated their sense of worth amongst their peers. Imo if you put that house in just about any other town at that point in NJ history it was 400 to 500k house tops and probably even less the further you got away from NYC and Central Jersey
The Watcher sounds like a 14 year old who thinks they are super edgy honestly XD
That is exactly what it sounds like.
Democrats. We keep them out of my community.
People who use the phrase "edge lord" remind me of 14 year olds.
Why the edit?
@@baneverything5580 Why tf did you bring politics into this lmfao
Soooo... maybe it was someone who wanted to buy the property himself but decided to significantly lower it's price first?
Until when he himself bought it, then he recieve a letter. This time its not joking around.
@@epoy9278 lmao now that’s a interesting horror movie
@@epoy9278 well as they say what comes around goes around
1l
The realtor next door neighbour being the most obvious suspect
I just LOVE your storytelling! The dramatic pauses, the perfectly stressed words! Intriguing and scary! Thank you~
Did this happen to the other owners afterwards? Because if not, then it had something to do with them. Either it was them themselves or someone in the neighbourhood didn't like them.
first is possible, but latter is impossible since they never moved. most likely it was the chick's boyfriend making the chick to put the letters on his behalf
Family: _gets psychologically terrorized for 5 years by a psycho_
Netflix: It's Free Real Estate
Fkn Netflix 😂
Didn’t Obama buy a house in that neighborhood? He is, after all, an adherent of Weather Underground terrorists. Use your Google. And now he’s a multi-millionaire because of Netflix.
@@Ranxerox1911A1 k
Typical Netflix..
I don't know what's so interesting Scott this story to warrant making a movie or a series. It's just 3 creepy letters. Sure, in real life it'll creep me out, but it's fucking boring for a movie plot
Thoughty is the best channel on RUclips. He doesn't need to do fake ghost videos, he doesn't need to be hugely controversial or ram his videos full of sexual content. He just gives us funny, informative and incredibly witty videos. Long may it continue
And the suspenders
A good way to lower the value of a house, then buy it for 400k less than it’s worth haha
Except that the stigma remains and must be disclosed when you sell the house again. So it really IS worth 400k less.
Once it hit the media, I'd think it would be safe to live there.
@@tisjester NOT TO THE PERSON THAT CREATED THE STIGMA IT ISN'T
If you understand what hes saying...that means the creep is actively trying to reduce the value and then swoop in, when noone else would bother anymore, and for cheep.
@@catdaddy9626 Shit, before the video ended I looked to see if the house was for sale. I’d totally buy it and invoke my second amendment.
@@trentononeill5493 🤣🤣🤣
Your joke about staying away from the whole block made me laugh out loud. Thank you.
The whole block could have been poisoned by the water and became mental.
Just finished and this version of the story is for sure the best. It had so many crucial details that buzzfeed unsolved didn't touch on
Just finished reading your book "Stick A Flag In It" and i gotta say, it was FKN BRILLIANT ! ! ! !
He wrote a book? No wonder his storytelling so good in the videos. Wow. Need to look that up :D
Seriously? After the first letter, I would have hired a professional security company with a very hidden camera facing the mailbox - that ran continually. Since it was handwritten, it had to have been hand delivered. Then I'd let the kids play on the porch for one hour - with a camera(s) covering all angles - along with a PI secretly in the house also watching. It may have cost some money, but if they wanted to flip the house, it would been easy after they caught 'the woman'. The theory that they were in over their head is plausible; if they can't afford the mortgage and taxes while living with the parents how would they afford it once they moved in - with utilities, etc to boot. Seems odd. I know the area - really seems odd.
its the same scam the Lutzes did with Amityville.
Cant afford the house, make up some bullcrap, and get out of the house
The letters were all typed. Listen more carefully.
Oops! Thank you all for the clarification.
@@lauraowen8142 You misunderstood. The letters appear to be 'handwritten' - i.e. not addressed/sent through the postal system.
@@lauraowen8142 Handwritten in large block letters,
@@YBDownsta yep. Must be silent - or I've been mispronouncing it wrong all these years. :-) Google it. :-)
I love your content! You’re one of my all time favorite RUclipsrs! I don’t care what a video is about, if it’s narrated by you, I’m watching it!
the watcher strikes again !
Why didn' they secrete cameras in hidden locations around the exterior and/or the interior windows of the house?
small cameras
Secrete cameras? Sounds painful.
Camera glands must be acting up.
I’m still suspecting that it’s one of the real estate agents or one of the prospective buyers of the home who lost out
Marie Rockets. It was found out to be a neighbour who wanted the house but lost out with the negotiations
15:56 to 16:30 The Girlfriend sitting outside the House was the person dropping off the letters for her Boyfriend THE WATCHER. Likely 2 young people playing a Game based on his Computor Game. Plus he never showed up for the Police Interogations. Just my Theory.
I’d have been tearing into the walls to see if there’s literally any skeletons in closets, or under floorboards, behind the walls. Basically take time off from work and stake out the place til I can hopefully figure out who it is.
Was done in the end, they even opened several walls.
Seriously? It was a total of 3 letters over 5 years. Load of fuss about nothing.
Or you could just throw the letters out and live your life.
@@herrschmidt5477 Did they find anything or was it just empty space?
@@Razer5542 nothing was ever found. personally I think it was either a scam to get the house relatively cheap or just the one neighbour looking straight at their house was a (luckily rather harmless) nutjob.
You chose your title very carefully, right? More careful than other titles? Had you said this was the story about "the watcher", you may have missed out on views due to people having listened to the story multiple times, but like me, others wanted to know why people wouldn't want to live in an expensive house. But great job, I was hooked even when I figured it out a few minutes in because unlike all those others who have told the story, I think you have an edge in story telling.
You figured it out ?
What I learned today is that it could save you a lot of money to find a home you want that is out of your range by a bit that is on the market and then do creepy shit with letters when someone moves in and get the house for several hundreds of thousands less in just a few years. I wonder if they ever did any investigating of the people who bought the house in the end for far less than it should have been worth.
It doesn't say did the new owners get any letters or threats
They brought the deed and unlocked a quest as evident by the skyim-esque “to the owner” letter.
Honestly, as terrifying as living there would be, I would also love the feeling of living in a modern myth.
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON.
The courier chases you down wherever you are in the world to deliver your newest letter from the watcher. There’s no escape until you solve the mystery and end it with your sword while trying not to take an arrow to the knee
I love this channel, today I started listening to his podcast at work! What a gem! I absolutely love it, had me laughing out loud on more than one occasion ❤️❤️❤️ your amazing mustache still shines through in podcast ! Haha ❤️❤️
Why do people like his moustache?? I still miss his older videos, he just looks better without it to me.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki because it’s an amazing mustache! He looks so much better with it 🙂👍🏻
@@nickyphenix4146 I 100% do not agree and it isn't the answer I was looking for it's just the same stuff everyone types.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki your question was why do people like his mustache. The answer is because it’s a really great mustache. Idk 🤷🏼♀️ what you’re looking for nor do I care that you don’t like it. I love it and prefer him with it. 🤷🏼♀️ so ... have a good day lol
He does have a sharp wit and a great sense of humor, no doubt...
the pen truly can be mightier than the sword. putting pen to paper is a very minor task yet in the right hands it can plant a seed of concern that grows and blooms into fear. the power of suggestion is very much what authors media and radio have exploited from their beginning
I'm curious to know how thorough the investigation of the Langfords was. Just because the DNA didn't match Abby, doesn't mean it wasn't her mother, or that they weren't working together somehow. They are really the only ones in this story with the time, opportunities and patience for this kind of plot.
I wonder if the local cops bothered to do familial DNA. I get the feeling they didn't take it very seriously, so I doubt it.
If it doesn't match to descendant it is nearly guaranteed to not match with parent as well. Because as you should probably know children share DNA with parents. In fact lots of murderers were found without ever taking their DNA but through the DNA of their genealogy. Most famous example is how golden state killer was found, they have never took his DNA as a suspect before they found him. So checking mother DNA would actually make near no sense if they checked daughter.
@@АндрейОнищенко-з8х she could be adopted
But what if the child is adopted?@@АндрейОнищенко-з8х
I already know it's going to be the Watcher. I've read the story, listened to the Buzzfeed Unsolved video about it. watched other videos about it. I will still freaking watch and listen to a new video about it.
It’s the old neighbors who didn’t want any meddling, screaming kids around their house. Anyone who’s ever watched “Scooby Doo” knows that. 😑
It could be a plot done by the watcher to lower the value of the house. When it is low enough, the watcher would buy it.
Is it inspired by the Amityville incident or the film inspired by it?
Nothing a firearm, a few cameras, and Rottweilers can't handle.
Agreed, most likely it was the bipolar neighbor adult aged child. He was put in a care facility and the house sold with no more issues.
A Ring doorbell system is a beautiful thing. Tape the door to the basement, cover all exits. Set up cameras at the exits. Also, the binoculars I know can’t zoom nearly far enough for the person to not have been close by if it was real.
I live in a high crime area, both me and my wife carry. I have a few cameras installed in the garage, driveway, side yard and backyard. If I'm not home and she's coming home late, she calls me to check the cameras while she parks so no one runs up on her.
Recently went to Mexico and saw these beautiful homes with high walls but beautifully decorated and security spikes on top but done artfully so. Might check with the city and county to see if I can have something like that installed in my home.
Interesting how stories like this never happen to security and firearm enthusiasts...A big "mystery"...😂
why rottweilers? they're mediocre guards. train german seppherds instead, they live longer since they're not that much of a genetically modified breed
Thoughty2 you make my day! honestly you teach me things and make me laugh with your humour and on top of that you have an awesome moustache!
I appreciate these videos! i cant wait untill i i can finally visit my family in England again after this Covid! We should link up then and ill buy you a drink mate!!
We really got to vote out the lunatics in charge.
I always get so happy when I see him post ! Finally more amazing content !
The Netflix show on this is honestly great. Give it a watch. Had no idea this video even pre-dates that.
What's weirder is that I've been through the town this house was in. Nothing would ever make you suspect that something like this was happening in that area.
One of my good friends grew up in Westfield. It was crazy hearing him tell the story and how it affected the town.
I'm not gonna lie to you mate, I usually skip through your sponsor segments, but I always love watching the manscaped ones 😂
You should see Larry Lawton's manscape ad reads he's an older bald gentleman that was the largest jewel thief in America in the 1980s and did a long prison term.
His ad reads are perfectly cut so it looks like he turns into a buff young model when he takes his shirt off and uses their products.
I fast forward most ad reads but when I saw his I laughed hard
@@drowningin I actually watch a lot of Larry's content, I've seen most of his vids, small world lol
Ive heard this story so many times, its not funny. But this is the 1st time Ive heard it so well presented & researched with different & added content that I havent heard before. It made it so much more riveting. Thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Hell, I’d buy it, I already raised my kids, sold my house and am currently living and trying to take care of my elderly mother…things can’t be worse then they are now
You are absolutely one of the best story tellers. You simply contain all the proper ingredients 🤔
I love watching videos that I know the basic story behind what happened, but then getting Thoughty2’s…err…thoughts 😊
Thanks for another great video!
What a joy it is to have another great Thoughty 2 episode pop up in my feed. Thanks, Arran :) Best Videos on RUclips!
If you like this, then I think you will like Mr.Ballen definitely check him out!!
@@angieou8127 had a look at his channel , as not the first time i read it in the comments on thoughty2 , he is good but too american and familiar . thoughty2 is on a different level .
"Thanks for watching." Oh no! It was me all along!!
Aha that's very clever. Made me smile 😊
Okay, I had a thought… The police literally looked at everyone in the neighborhood as a suspect, including the family that bought the house. But there are two people they never even thought to question or look at: the people who sold them the house. I know it makes no sense for them to terrorize the new owners, but since when do people make sense? It’s quite possible they were the ones sending the letters and it would explain why they never caught “the watcher”.
The Watcher sounds like a really bad villain a reddit fanfic subreddit would invent.
yeah, reddit is for mental people in the first place.
Or the stuff of generic creepypasta.
i searched all of reddit , it is not there .
Just your average reddit admin.
facts
Sounds like a good time to invest in some security cameras and guard dogs
Don't forget a few sniper nests for humans and squirrels alike lmao
or with bear traps, i guess?
Just rig a camera to the back of the mailbox so when it opens it will take a picture, or even have a long-range camera looking at the mailbox and have it monitored 24/7, then send a nearby operative to take down the person putting in a letter.
The podcast is very interesting! I listen to it when taking my dog for walks or before falling asleep. The constant sound effects (which are fun 😆) sometimes wake me from my drifting slumber.. Granted, the sound bites don’t prevent me from wanting to absorb all of the compelling information that the podcast provides! Thanks Thoughty2 & everyone that’s involved in making these channels run!! I appreciate your hard work!!! 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
that’s absolutely right!! even with meds, it does not go away - just maybe helps you to live your life more calmly. 🌷
Yeah, I've never enjoyed or been effected by horror stories, and this was no different. I feel sorry for the family, but it seems like a really demented practical joke.
affected
@@dylanwolf Thanks. I learned the difference (noun or verb) and used to be aware of it when writing in college. Now I just hear the voice in my head use the everyday wrong pronunciation and I'm too lazy to think about it. (At least I get 'too' and 'to' right.) It's the same with lay and lie (which is transitive and which isn't), and hardware and underwear (but not werewolf). I'll leave it as is so others can see the error. My pet peeve is "there, their, and they're", but I have to remember that English is not the native language of many commenters. But I have no problem writing a sentence that I have to put a preposition at the end of. So sorry... I have no problem writing a sentence where I have to put a preposition at the end. (Yes, I do have a problem.) I also love the overuse of parentheses. (Only as an aside.) And sentence fragments.
@@derreckwalls7508
Most people who make mistakes with they, their and they're are actually native English speakers. Maybe because they sound similar? I'm ESL and I have never had any problems with those words. Neither have anyone that I know. Have seen lots of native English speakers doing that, though.
@@dylanwolf well done
@@derreckwalls7508 you really wrote a whole paragraph just because you didn't want to change a single letter....
If the letters were being kept in the mail box, a Camera or a trap would have worked amazingly for the Broddua, dont you think. Something that would catch them for sure.
Also the bf didn't come, doesn't mean the lead should be let go. If the cops were useless, the PI could still have asked around.
You gotta admit…
All else aside- watcher is pretty damn amazing at psychological warfare! 😳
Not if you do not read the letters... this is like an asshole sending a comment on RUclips. It don't matter until it's real. Let the 'watcher' approach me and say that to my face, now we're talkin!
nah, the people investigating were just shit at it.
@@SkittleNutz77 literally 😂
I mean if you threaten anyone's kids I bet they're gonna be on edge
@Adolf Hitler like you didn’t do ANY OF THAT right?😂
Thoughty2’s voice is so iconic now
Mrs Richards: " I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?
I've heard this story before from Mr. Ballen and still listened to Thoughty2 tell it. Both tell it differently, but still a very cool and interesting listen and strange story. Neither gentlemen did a better job than the other. Very well told. 👍🏻
keep your comparisons even if ties for yourself.
@@ejokurirulezz I'll do and say as I please.
Those pesky "Let's split up and look for clues" kids would have found the culprit.
Some talented individual should make the scooby doo ending for this.
Edit: It was Baldy McShavedballs of the clan McManscaped.
BALDY MCSHAVEDBALLS 😂🤣😂😂😂
nice ending !!!
as an artist I fucking love this concept, it would be a real classic given all the shit horror films being released.
I watched that series, it was very good, I just adore your videos!! Keep up the good work my friend!! 👍
"The million dollar house no-one wants to live in"
Ah, so the cheapest houses on the market today?
Man you made me laugh today. Here's a cookie. 🍪
Lol man, that's painful
Really great storytelling as usual! Thanks for the entertaining video
I first heard about this one on the Casual Criminalist. You do great job of telling it as story while Mr. Whistler does a great job of presenting it in a more factual way.
Funny the way you plugged the podcast, I actually used to put your videos on to play in the background!
So lower the price, I'll buy it if they go low enough.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
Everyone: "Wow, I love how you retold this story. I heard this happened in Texas."
Me, a Buzzfeed Unsolved addict: "ALL HAIL THE WATCHER"
I see the young gamer in this story was a fan of Darksiders... Cracking game.
Dude was an executive level manager at an Insurance company.
Trust me - he has stacks and stacks.
It may have been the MOTHER from next door, not the daughter.
Maybe she had a personality like the GM from 'Flowers in the Attic'.
There's a reason old women get called hags...
Because they make men feel lame..and insecure..
@@christineparis5607 No
If it was the mother, the DNA would've still been a partial match.
@@galaxyanimal Not necessarily, they have to be very exact matches for those tests
@@sladerheaume A mother & daughter would share 50% of DNA, but I don't know for certainty about the specific regions they test for.
Your ability to tell stories is on another level
Don't forget to shave your balls.
Hahaha
They should have rented it to some crazy-ass family for super cheap. Be like "listen you can do whatever you want outside in the yard and tear shit up, but please don't ruin the interior" if that worked. I can almost guarantee the local gov and neighborhood would change their minds about letting them divide the lot. It would be risky but funny as hell. broken down shit in the yard, fights, cops coming a couple times a week. The neighbors would be pissed haha
Hah! I'd take the house AND catch the watcher. Sounds like fun!
This has to be the funniest narrated episode of Thoughty2 ... totally dying over here. Totally living on Elm street lol. 👊🤣👍
Even his ads are amazing. I'm so excited about ball deodorant. I don't even have balls
That's the point, since you don't have them, you'd potentially be the one smelling... the deodorant...
You could wear fake ones that are actually scented like those trees they hang on rear view mirrors in cars.
Ovary deodorant could be the next big thing! You're welcome ;)
lol
Thanks guys! Really excited for all the ball smelling/fake ball wearing/ovary scented options available to me 😂😂
I'll take it, Mr. 12 Ga and I will have a party ready for Mr. Watcher.
Agreed, there are many sick people who would pull this 'watcher' crap for twisted kicks, but a loaded shotgun would put em straight real quick.
Now that's a PARTY I want to be at!! Send me a INVITE!
A warm lead welcome eh
@@WhuDhat , 00 Buck therapy.
I go to Westfield all the time, nothing special, it’s just full of heroin addicts, Karens, and bad drivers, the only thing to do is go to Starbucks and leave
I would watch this man on any show he hosted, gorgeous young man!!!!
“And of course you can pick just about any street n care-a-lot!”
Me: man, care-a-lot must be crazy!!!!
😂
I would’ve been so intrigued to find out who this is. I’d set up a trap in the mailbox, or surveillance cameras, or some contraption that’ll trap the guy sending these mails.
This story was nuts. Cadaber did a great vid on it as well.
And Mr Ballen
It’s so crazy hearing stories from these places in your own state 😂
I love the narrating as you read the letters
I'm going to start a business where I live in these "unlivable" houses because they're stalked out haunted or whatever. I'd get paid to live in million dollar houses just to prove everything is fine.
Ah you made a classic mistake. This is one of those houses noone wants to pay you to live in either. 🤣
@@MrJC1 True but there are others. I'll start with the Watts home then.
"The Watcher" makes me think of Viva la Dirt League's epic npc man 😂
"There's someone prowling here!"
"Must have been the wind."
@@jamesd6785 "for the peace of the kingdom!"
So it was Adam behind those letters.
Nah... He wouldn't have time for that... He's been out of this server for years, slaying Orks of Schrogragrak…🤷🏻♂️
Dear Sir, I have to confess I have binged on your videos for the past two days (since I was recommended your video). Is there a remedy for this addiction?
One constant was the letters in the mailbox. I’d some friends in a van down the street, watching in shifts till someone approached. We would have a kneecapping party in some woods FAR away from civilization
This is a good point. Why not install a hidden camera or something?
@@Logan_93 I thought of it, then I thought about video cameras in the 90s
I'm sure Thoughty2 made a video about this a few years back. Certainly something extremely similar. I've watched nearly every video he's posted for years and immediately thought it was an old upload, so it shocked me this is new!
Simon Whistler did this story quite recently on the Casual Criminalist, maybe you're thinking of that?
@@Musikur both men do have glorious facial hair
I would put a big sign up in the front yard saying "WATCH THIS!" and I would have the house demolished. Nothing for them to see anymore!
I’d move in, stay, and turn it into a soup kitchen/halfway house to pay the mortgage. Or maybe a temporary homeless shelter. Let the tightey whitey neighborhood marinate on that for awhile. 🤣
Nah man, do it properly, turn it into a stash house for the Sinaloa cartel.
@@julian2626 yup, even better.
@Joseph Stolen I love white people, but the ones in those more upscale neighborhoods are snobby and weak.
To me this sounds like a scam to get out of buying a house they thought they wanted . With all the investigations going on and not a single person or camera caught them putting mail in the box ? Very fishy ! .
theres such thing as a postal service
@@lileofficial4273 if that was the case they would have said they were being delivered in the mail . You obviously didnt follow the evidence or pay attention .
@@MrCanuck78 whatever dude, my mailman puts all my mail in my mail box and that had to of been what happened here if.its true
@@lileofficial4273 and you believe the FBI and local police didnt look into that ?? If it went through the mail it would be able to trace it ! . wake up DUDE lol
@@MrCanuck78 bruh the fbi didnt get involved till much later, and your on my ass for 'not paying attention' lol
anyways you sound like your confident in what you believe and any conversation/speculation with you about this would be wasted effort, so ill leave you with your theories and ill stick with mine. have a good one
I’m sure you’ve done this story before?? I’ve been watching all your videos for years and could swear you’d covered it.
I think the Watcher could've been the mailman, no one would suspect the one who delivers the mail to be the Watcher because it's too obvious. Also since the mailman would be delivering the mail all day, he would be around spying. If the hours of his shift match with Watchers activity hours, it confirms the mailman as the Watcher.
Great idea!
Uh, no, that wouldn’t confirm the mailman as the watcher.
I would've moved in. This is clearly from someone trying to put fear in them.
But, well... I already did pretty crazy things when I thought someone was trying to scare me at night at my parent's farm... And, in the end, it was owls. 😬
Crazy like burning the fields to ash, or crazy like running around naked with a loaded shotgun, screaming, "show yourself!"??
@@christineparis5607 gotta burn the fields every fall anyway
@@christineparis5607 imagine this... It's a farm in the middle of nowhere. No other houses in less than 1 mile, maybe more. Around 6 miles of the closest city (that is pretty small).
A night without Moon, so pretty dark. Around midnight, my parents were already sleeping and I was in the living room working in my notebook.
Then, from nowhere, I heard the craziest and horrible whistle from the outside... Like 3 feet out the door (that was closed).
At first I thought I had worked too much and was hearing things, but then it repeated. I asked who it was, but nothing...
Then it happened again and I asked again... Then, when it repeated next I got a piece of wood and went outside. 😐
And stayed there for a few minutes, then I heard it again, coming from the trees... So I decided to go to bed. 😬
The next day, late, I was talking with my father and we heard it again. I asked him what was it and he said it was a big and white owl. 🤷♂️
It was whooooo? I'm sorry I couldn't help it lol
@@HorrorHermitofHell No... Sounds more like "I" or "e"... But I wouldn't know how to put into letters...
657 boulevard always rings in my ears. The buzzfeed unsolved version covered almost everything, indeed.
I'm really bad at writing old timey-ly
Hey, Thoughty2 here kinda sounds like, *Hey, 42 here*
Just a random theory: What if the girl that stood suspiciously long in front of the house was the daughters of the family living behind their house whose boyfriend is this weird guy who plays video games.
Even though this is just a theory everything would make sense, the girl would have delivered the papers that her boyfriend would write and from the house of her parents he would be able to watch them or sneak out and in when he needed it to.
I wonder what you guys think about this theory, feel free to write your own or refine mine
Ah yes, thoughty2, the only channel where I look forward to the sponsor plug. 😂😂😂 How do you keep a straight face?