great info ! I am a bit overwhelmed by grow light colors myself but understand the reasons for use. With this being said, I came up with a compromise. I use one flood grow light and one 5000k lamp to cover the area I am using. Adding just the one grow light with my normal ones has really got my orchids very happy!!! As well as keeping me happy. I feel it is all about the blend ! Thanks Danni !
I've been using regular LEDs for growing my plants for about 3 months now (but not orchids though, haven't tried that out yet). I live in a very small apartment with only one window, and I've noticed that the bulbs really contributed to the general wellbeing of my plant babies! They survived very nicely throughout the winter months with continuous growth, which I wasn't expecting, since the years before this one, their growth was very studded in winter. I use a local brand of LEDs with the temperature of 4000K and 8 wat usage by the way.
@@vydehi17 It was from when I woke up in the morning until I went to bed at night, so I've left them turned on for about 16-17 hours a day. If anyone was wondering, it's still working very well! The closer the bulb is to the plant, the better it works as I've figured.
I love the living room set up you did - very practical for the more showy orchids or while in bloom. Was there a follow up video after this one sharing results and final thoughts? Are you still using these bulbs today. I have t purchased lights yet so looking for options.
I have been growing the majority of my orchids under grow lights for years. They are LED lights similar to the Gemma ones, full spectrum, white light, and they fit a normal lamp. I get them from Orchids Limited. I have grown and rebloomed tolumnias, phals, oncidiums, dendrobium phalanopsis and latouria types, and cattleyas.
Me too. I'm not the only one. I don't do well in bright blue tone light either. Much prefer amber yellow, soft light. And now that I saw your video it does affect how I feel. It did before, I just never said it. Love your videos.
I have both red blue leds and full spectrum, I tied them to some of those IKEA lerberg shelves that have mesh surface. For me, I feel like full spectrum makes a better job, as I see new growths more often on the Oncidium, Dendrobium, Phalaenopsis, Paphiopedilum and Bulbophyllum as well as several Jewel orchids. For the red blue ones, I also feel like they are not as pleasing with the eyes, so I installed on the lower shelves, away from the eye level. Orchids under red blue seem to develop slower, but seem to have a stouter complexion, also made a huge difference for my African violet, which became massive under those lights. Also for some reason, I feel like the red-blue light seems to deter pests (?), I don’t really know if that’s the case, but when there was a huge spider mite outbreak everywhere, the least affected plants were those under the red-blue. Same happened with mealybugs, that seem to prefer natural light conditions.
Thanks for sharing, Danny! I am also very affected by light color in the same way. I feel better with those warmer-colored lights. The bluer ones are really harsh on me. Thanks so much for doing this experiment. I've always wondered, but grow lights can be so ugly and require special shelving and hanging. I love your idea for a living room setup! I have a big place in my living room that would be great except that it's shady. Now I can use it for plants with a beautiful setup like the one you showed! Thank you so much for the idea as I am completely out of plant space in bright areas of the house. 🌷💖
shocked here! i didn't know lighting could affect you mentally. 😲 i always feel horribly anxious in certain places, and have to avoid them. (especially some restaurants) i felt like it is was the "mood lighting" freaking me out, but was never sure. i thought it was just me. thank you for mentioning it! off to google! i'm going into research mode. 🌼🦔
Great, I am looking for light installation cose my orchids are very deprived. I will wait impatiently for the updates! On a side note I am happy I am not crazy and "capricious" as my husband called me when I expressed my hate for our new lightbulbs when he changed everything at home with white light! I wanted to cry, I hate it and honestly I think it's what gives me headaches, also hate to night drive on roads that are lighted with white instead of orange light!!! I am so glad I am not secretly insane or some 😂😂😂
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels ill from the red/blue light. I want to incorporate grow lights in my life but I have the same experience as you with blue light. I was watching other videos on incorporating grow lights, and it was uncomfortable enough that I had to stop. I love your ikea stand center piece with the lights that gives me a good idea about how I could use something like this. I also might just try regular full spectrum lights like you were using, and accept less plant grow in exchange for less blue.
The long aluminum vanes on the bulb are for heat dispersion. It's not just infrared that produces heat, but the production of all light. Incandescent bulbs and LEDs both operate by heating an element to produce light, so remember the primary method is heating. It's just a matter of how the energy sent to something is released. It can be released as heat or light or motion. LEDs are much more efficient at producing light with less heat than incandescent, but they still get hot! You can tell they're quality bulbs because they have those large aluminum fins. :)
Nice, thanks. I've found that regular low wattage LEDs work perfectly fine and are much cheaper to run. Then again...I grow mostly mosses, not orchids.
Hello, I grow orchids at home. I follow your clips on RUclips and they are very informative for me. I have a question for you, do orchids have problems with the light of plant growth lamps or violet light in general and do not grow properly? Because I have heard from several orchid growers that orchids should not be placed under purple plant growth lamps. Only white and sunny LEDs should be used in combination. what is your opinion? Thank you for your guidance.
Oh thank you so much for this video Danni! I want start a mini Phal Orchid collection and put them together with my African violet plants which I already grew a few babies from their propagated leaves! Can't wait to try these bulbs!💖
I have been interested in benefits of LED lights for several things. I wonder if LED christmas lights would work- I wonder if they would work with plants and be decorative also
I'm so looking forward to the outcome of this experiment!! After many years, 4 o 5 dead orchids, snail infestation and wrong media I think that I'm getting better with my poor plants. My orchids (Phals, Cattleyas and Oncidium hybrids) are now pretty ok and some of them have actually lot of leaves, lot of mature pseudobulbs and good root systems; however only two Phals blooms regularly (well, regularly, once every two or three years...) and they are in front of a window with a sheer curtain, which protects them from direct sunlight. Because of this, I believe that my orchids don't get enough light, even though they all are at least near to a window; artificial lights could really help, given that I cannot put more plants in front of my windows. Hope they work! Keep up with these beautiful videos Danni!!
so can i use a regular LED light to grow my veggies ? because i live in DOMINICAN REPUUBLIC and its so difcult for me to get a grow light here im starting to grow some vegettables seeds. what do you recomend me please ?
I'm with you. The pink and blue lights make me ill too. Bought some of those bulbs and I had to take them out. Now I just use full spectrum. Seem to do ok.
Great topic! But you haven't truly mentioned distance between the bulbs and the plants, is it supposed to be different from your regular lights? For a high light plant should it be not more than 20 cm? 40 cm? Should it be right below or does it benefit from light '' diffusion ''?
Hi, that is really up for me to discover in time. There is no golden rule of placing plants at a certain distance, it can depend on light demand of each plant and the bulb itself. All 3 setups are 'mobile' and currently at different heights. For grow lights to deliver the spectrum they 'promise', they cannot have a plastic, or other material, diffuser such as the home bulb, if that's what you're asking ☺️
@@MissOrchidGirl thanks! I don't know if you remember but you already replied to one of my comments regarding lights quite recently, even more recently someone advised me to remove the transparent plastic covers on my bulb (6000k ugly pink full spectrum) to make them even more efficient... Anyway, looking forward to checking your updates! BTW April is approaching, I can't wait to see your dimorphorchis lowii (and even the rossii!)
If you looked at the box, it said 'uMol/10cm', it is basically a formula that can be used to identify distance depending on your preference. Each plant have different desires.
@@Helveteshit sure, this is why I asked for high light plants, it's obviously easier with lower light ones like phals, I recently got a cattleya trianae grown under lights because I'm on a northern exposure and I hope it's gonna be enough, I'll see how my next growths look and hope for the best :)
I'm really excited to see you experimenting with lights, as I'm super new to indoor plant lighting! Are you planning on putting in a solid, opaque divider between the two sections? I'm thinking that it might be useful since the light radiates outward and your plants closer to the middle where they overlap might be receiving a mixture of the two different lights.
Very Good Video. So far I have no sensitivity to any color of lights. That being said I try not to have too many grow lights as my friends may be sensitive to some color of light. The grow lights that I have my orchids and violets seem to be happy with. Looking forward to the updates.
Hi Danny. Sorry on the different subject. I am trying to find the video where you have showed shallow DYI pot from Ikea. I understand that you have purchased some transparent shallow dish which has perfect fit with light blue metal (?)dish. My rootless rupicullous laelias have new grows and i am thinking to plant them for a long term in the shallow pots. I afraid 12cm orchid pots are too deep for them. Could you please advise the product Ikea codes of the dishes you have used so I could order online. Also how is your experiment is going for rupicullous laelias bark vs stones? I am thinking to keep them in the mix of moss, stones and small grade lava rock. But maybe it is better to repot them to bark? 😳Thank you very much in advance☺
I’m living in Canada, and as may of you may know that Cannabis was legal in Canada since Oct 2018. Many of my friends who grow orchids are not interested in cannabis or just hate it, but few months later we found out there are lost of articles online and lots of products on the market originally designed for growing cannabis actually worked perfectly for orchids. One of the major finding is that full spectrum light is actually better for plants comparing to pink lights. Also we grow orchids for aesthetic reasons, but using ugly pink lights in the living room runs counter to our original intention to grow orchids. The Ontario government may have lost $42M selling cannabis in the last year, but the local orchid fans did get some nice cannabis growing kits for their orchid collections.
Very excited what would be the result of this setup. Here in my region, I don't get a lot of sunlight, but investing in Grow lights is quite a pricey investment
Thank you so much for making this video. I am about to move house and worried my plants will not get enough light. Currently i keep my plants in my dining table next to French window so that they get enough light. I do get that weird look from people visiting my house because of having so much plants on the dining table. I am so pleased with the spotlight idea. I am so eager to try it once I move house.
Long, long ago (before most of your were born!) I had a grow-light set-up, one of the early consumer units, with those fluorescent red+blue tubes that colored everything magenta. I grew african violets among other plants then. Overall I think the african violets did well, but the color of the light was such that if you spent too much time around them there was a psychological effect.
Remove the diffuser (globe) from the domestic LED bulb and you will get around 10% extra lumens as well as a tighter spread. Under these conditions they will work as good, if not better, than the fancy expensive grow lights. 4000k bulbs have a well-balanced spectrum.
Hey one question, do lights affect your health only when you look at it, or also when it's closed in a tent? Do they release some sort of radiation in the room? Thanks, great video!
I've been using indoor lights with motion sensors that trigger the ambient non grow lights and shut off weird the pink lights. I'm hoping this helps. I've spent last 3 hours on your channel researching orchids. Great content, thanks a lot. I'm a pro gardener in Barcelona but still experimenting and learning all the time. Best regards!
Hi missOrchidGirl, i have just identified on orchid that i have never seen before and was wondering if you have a care vid for it, the orchid is called Epidendrum centropetalum. I have seen that you do have a similar vid for a reed stem epidendrum.
How do you know what the proper distance between the light and the plants should be? How much area does each lamp cover? I'll be following this series with great interest
Hi, that is really up for me to discover in time. There is no golden rule of placing plants at a certain distance, it can depend on light demand of each plant and the bulb itself. All 3 setups are 'mobile' and currently at different heights. The PAR value on the box is expressed for an area of 10 cm, you can extrapolate from here to a bigger area, if that's what you asked ☺️
Great video! thank you for explaining everything clearly. However I have read some articles that say plants need a little of UV light, as example, it makes grown vegetables more tasteful and succulents more colorful (reddish instead of green). Also some companies sell grow lights with like 0.05% of UV. What is your opinion on that?
Fortunately for you, in USA and Canada you can find every grow light you could possibly imagine, available from many websites for a good price, especially Amazon. One reason is that cannabis is legal there, and the grow light business for cannabis is huge. Even if you don't grow cannabis, you can find great lights in those stores. It's a dream land for grow lights! In Europe it's very hard to find, and Amazon shipping costs more than the lights themselves.
@@MissOrchidGirl Hi Danny, if you are so inclined, may I suggest a follow up experiment with Gemma Lights vs regular warm white recessed COB lights of ~4000k if possible. It will be so much cheaper to get recessed cob lights vs a dedicated grow light, and I don't think there will be much difference. Also with COB type lights, which are similar to design of these Gemma lights, knowing the beam angle you can calculate how much light you will get at different distances from the bulb, and it will help optimise setup for different plants, since the recommendations for different orchids in terms of optimum lux readings can be found in care guides. To calculate the lux, find out the lumens of your light, and the beam angle of the lamp from the specifications, and put them in a calculator from bannerengineering that you can find (2nd or 3rd result in my search) by googling lux to lumen calculator. I found that a light with 900 lumens (typical 9 w cob light with 100 lumen per watt efficacy and a beam width of 35° would give a lux reading of 12380 at a distance of 50 cm from the light, and it will properly illuminate an area 32 cm across at that distance. And you will be surprised how steeply the lux values fall as you move even a little further from grow lights. The one issue I feel people may have is the installation and the aesthetics of the setup, but it can save big big bucks.
Hi, I’m hoping someone can help me. I have just started purchasing plants and was wondering if light to plant distance is an issue. My ceilings are 10 ft and my plants would be about 6ft under a bulb. Is that too far away?
Yo about the green wave length! It would be very interesting to experiment with it. I mean of the back side of leafs do absorb green wave length. We may be able to light the plants from the bottom and it might increase vegging by 25%!
I bought a Bulb in ikea e26 that is 120 watts, 1000 lumen and 5k Kelvin. Just curious if anyone think this is fine to run 12 hrs a day or it will bump up electricity bills?
Knowing Ikea bulbs, I think that yours is 12 watts, not 120 watts. Running a 12 watts bulb for 12 hours a day in my country cost around 1€ per month. Electricity is not very expensive in my country, but also not extremely cheap. I doubt that you would spend more than 2€ per month, even if you live in a place where electricity is really expensive
I purchased grow lights from a gentleman called Jeff Young through Facebook. He also sells through eBay as The Orchid Hobbyist. He has designed these specifically for orchid growing. Since switching I have noticed a clear and definite improvement in the growth and blooming. Regardless of some rude comments by nasty little people, I am very interested in knowing what the results are. I grow in home conditions with all kinds of light from different sources, not a laboratory. Knowing that one performs better in conditions such as mine than another is absolutely useful and is absolutely something I would take into account if I was in the market for more lights.
Interesting how the colour temperature of lights affect us. I spend most of my time at home and suffer from depression. I use mostly blueish lights for my plants and feel it gives me more energy. Having them on timers also helps my day rythm. I'm looking forward to updates :)
Sun light gives vitamin D to your body. Vitamin D deficiency often causes depression. These bright cool lights replicate sun's light so that's why it makes you feel better. Lack of sunlight causes depression
Hi, I've placed an order for the 100W LED Growlight yesterday and there's no acknowledgement of my order/payment nor is there information on dispatch details. Are they reliable as I cannot find any contact details on their website. If I don't hear from them by the end of the week, I'll need to open a dispute with Paypal. Are you able to please provide information on the seller?
Hi, as I was saying I don't have experience with this brand, I'm just reviewing the product. I suggest contacting them and alowing a few days for an answer. Many companies reduced their activity this year due to the covid worldwide pandemic.
@@MissOrchidGirl Thank you so much for the reply. Yes, I'll wait until the end of the week and will be concerned if I don't hear anything back by then.
For making plants look great,I always go for the Gro Lights. I don't care if the bland "daylight" bulbs are as good. I hate the look of them in any type of fixture,LED,Flourescent,or Halide,Sodium ( ugh,yellow!) and incandescent. I would only use them as grow out lights on the bench..but in a home? Gro lights maybe mixed with white lights for more intensity. But NEVER all daylight,warm white or those "grow bulbs" that look orange. Give me purple!..ish.
Bhaha ow wouldn't it be great if a bulb would consume 9 w only one time and that's it? :))) But that is not how it works, you should learn about energy consumption in your home www.winterselectric.net/2014/04/14/what-does-wattage-on-a-lightbulb-mean/
A shame that they haven't added lumens into their technical chart. Even if PAR is more important, it is good to have Lux and Lumen in the product page. So it can be compared to other products on the market. For example, they are a Swedish company yet their product compete with 'Blomsterlandet' and 'Plantaget' which sell their own growlights. But they display it according Lumen and the Growlight tag. Since false advertisement is illegal, they can't really do scam products like in US. So, it becomes hard for me to compare their 18W(As an example) toward another 18W. If I can't see the difference. Albeit, my current growlight for an aquarium. ( Vertical aquarium that I turned into a paludarium ) I use an 18W, same dimension as their 18W. But it looks more appealing, if one were to not use a shield around. Albeit I do that, to reduce light spread. Since mine hang around 40-50 cm from the lowest light point. ( i.imgur.com/jFp72Gz.jpg ) Another thing I wish they used, is the idea of making .ldt files for their product. So it can be utilised in programs like Dialux Evo (Free program) that allows you to test light out and visualize the product and more importantly... Compare it to competitors. Because even if Lumen isn't the important point. If you compare growlight. Lumen can still say one thing or two about the amount of light that might be provided as a Growlight. Depending on its light intensity. More importantly, one can visualize its light spread.
Hi, they do state the lux and lumen quantity, pause the video to read the box. It's also in the product page ☺️ thanjs for the feedback on the dialuxevo!
@@MissOrchidGirl Was speaking about their 18W on the website which sadly lacks these details. *Sob* In case it was better than my existing grow light that doesn't provide enough to penetrate throughout the full enclosure.
Hi Danny. My favorite subject, lighting though I've been lagging behind in knowledge of new lights available. Since there has been a push away from circular florescent lights (CFL's), incandescent, halogen, and into LED's the available lights has been limited because technology is ever new and developing. Will be interesting to see how your "salad" grows and wondering how these would compare to the old blueish CFL that was 6500k. Anyhow, thank you for interesting and fun presentation. Very nice camera work too. Here's a question, does fish gets affected with the multi vapor white lamp used on saltwater aquariums 😵, I've always wondered ?
I am totally the same about blue light! I much prefer warmer lights. I also have a lot of other sensory sensitivity though, so I've never really thought about it as its own thing. I'm glad grow lights are moving away from those purple lights. They're cool in concept, but even looking at them on a screen is... Ick
great info ! I am a bit overwhelmed by grow light colors myself but understand the reasons for use. With this being said, I came up with a compromise. I use one flood grow light and one 5000k lamp to cover the area I am using. Adding just the one grow light with my normal ones has really got my orchids very happy!!! As well as keeping me happy. I feel it is all about the blend ! Thanks Danni !
Get 10% more lumens and a tighter spread of light by removing the diffuser.
I've been using regular LEDs for growing my plants for about 3 months now (but not orchids though, haven't tried that out yet). I live in a very small apartment with only one window, and I've noticed that the bulbs really contributed to the general wellbeing of my plant babies! They survived very nicely throughout the winter months with continuous growth, which I wasn't expecting, since the years before this one, their growth was very studded in winter. I use a local brand of LEDs with the temperature of 4000K and 8 wat usage by the way.
For how many hours you turn on the lights please mention. So I will try at my apartment. Iam From Hyderabad India
@@vydehi17 It was from when I woke up in the morning until I went to bed at night, so I've left them turned on for about 16-17 hours a day. If anyone was wondering, it's still working very well! The closer the bulb is to the plant, the better it works as I've figured.
I love the living room set up you did - very practical for the more showy orchids or while in bloom.
Was there a follow up video after this one sharing results and final thoughts? Are you still using these bulbs today. I have t purchased lights yet so looking for options.
I have been growing the majority of my orchids under grow lights for years. They are LED lights similar to the Gemma ones, full spectrum, white light, and they fit a normal lamp. I get them from Orchids Limited. I have grown and rebloomed tolumnias, phals, oncidiums, dendrobium phalanopsis and latouria types, and cattleyas.
Hi, how many do you have and what’s your set up?@MichelleLindsey
Gemma made the right choice asking your opinion. Love and trust your knowledge 🤗
Me too. I'm not the only one. I don't do well in bright blue tone light either. Much prefer amber yellow, soft light. And now that I saw your video it does affect how I feel. It did before, I just never said it. Love your videos.
I have both red blue leds and full spectrum, I tied them to some of those IKEA lerberg shelves that have mesh surface. For me, I feel like full spectrum makes a better job, as I see new growths more often on the Oncidium, Dendrobium, Phalaenopsis, Paphiopedilum and Bulbophyllum as well as several Jewel orchids. For the red blue ones, I also feel like they are not as pleasing with the eyes, so I installed on the lower shelves, away from the eye level. Orchids under red blue seem to develop slower, but seem to have a stouter complexion, also made a huge difference for my African violet, which became massive under those lights. Also for some reason, I feel like the red-blue light seems to deter pests (?), I don’t really know if that’s the case, but when there was a huge spider mite outbreak everywhere, the least affected plants were those under the red-blue. Same happened with mealybugs, that seem to prefer natural light conditions.
Thanks for sharing, Danny! I am also very affected by light color in the same way. I feel better with those warmer-colored lights. The bluer ones are really harsh on me. Thanks so much for doing this experiment. I've always wondered, but grow lights can be so ugly and require special shelving and hanging. I love your idea for a living room setup! I have a big place in my living room that would be great except that it's shady. Now I can use it for plants with a beautiful setup like the one you showed! Thank you so much for the idea as I am completely out of plant space in bright areas of the house. 🌷💖
shocked here! i didn't know lighting could affect you mentally. 😲 i always feel horribly anxious in certain places, and have to avoid them. (especially some restaurants) i felt like it is was the "mood lighting" freaking me out, but was never sure. i thought it was just me.
thank you for mentioning it! off to google! i'm going into research mode. 🌼🦔
Great, I am looking for light installation cose my orchids are very deprived. I will wait impatiently for the updates!
On a side note I am happy I am not crazy and "capricious" as my husband called me when I expressed my hate for our new lightbulbs when he changed everything at home with white light! I wanted to cry, I hate it and honestly I think it's what gives me headaches, also hate to night drive on roads that are lighted with white instead of orange light!!! I am so glad I am not secretly insane or some 😂😂😂
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels ill from the red/blue light.
I want to incorporate grow lights in my life but I have the same experience as you with blue light. I was watching other videos on incorporating grow lights, and it was uncomfortable enough that I had to stop.
I love your ikea stand center piece with the lights that gives me a good idea about how I could use something like this. I also might just try regular full spectrum lights like you were using, and accept less plant grow in exchange for less blue.
The long aluminum vanes on the bulb are for heat dispersion. It's not just infrared that produces heat, but the production of all light. Incandescent bulbs and LEDs both operate by heating an element to produce light, so remember the primary method is heating. It's just a matter of how the energy sent to something is released. It can be released as heat or light or motion. LEDs are much more efficient at producing light with less heat than incandescent, but they still get hot! You can tell they're quality bulbs because they have those large aluminum fins. :)
Nice, thanks. I've found that regular low wattage LEDs work perfectly fine and are much cheaper to run. Then again...I grow mostly mosses, not orchids.
Hello, I grow orchids at home. I follow your clips on RUclips and they are very informative for me. I have a question for you, do orchids have problems with the light of plant growth lamps or violet light in general and do not grow properly? Because I have heard from several orchid growers that orchids should not be placed under purple plant growth lamps. Only white and sunny LEDs should be used in combination. what is your opinion? Thank you for your guidance.
Oh thank you so much for this video Danni! I want start a mini Phal Orchid collection and put them together with my African violet plants which I already grew a few babies from their propagated leaves! Can't wait to try these bulbs!💖
Hi! Thanks for the video! I couldn't seem to find the update video for this one. Thanks!
What are the non-grow bulbs you used? Specifically the specs on lumens and K.
I have been interested in benefits of LED lights for several things. I wonder if LED christmas lights would work- I wonder if they would work with plants and be decorative also
I'm so looking forward to the outcome of this experiment!! After many years, 4 o 5 dead orchids, snail infestation and wrong media I think that I'm getting better with my poor plants. My orchids (Phals, Cattleyas and Oncidium hybrids) are now pretty ok and some of them have actually lot of leaves, lot of mature pseudobulbs and good root systems; however only two Phals blooms regularly (well, regularly, once every two or three years...) and they are in front of a window with a sheer curtain, which protects them from direct sunlight. Because of this, I believe that my orchids don't get enough light, even though they all are at least near to a window; artificial lights could really help, given that I cannot put more plants in front of my windows.
Hope they work!
Keep up with these beautiful videos Danni!!
so can i use a regular LED light to grow my veggies ?
because i live in DOMINICAN REPUUBLIC and its so difcult for me to get a grow light here im starting to grow some vegettables seeds. what do you recomend me please ?
I'm with you. The pink and blue lights make me ill too. Bought some of those bulbs and I had to take them out. Now I just use full spectrum. Seem to do ok.
Great topic! But you haven't truly mentioned distance between the bulbs and the plants, is it supposed to be different from your regular lights?
For a high light plant should it be not more than 20 cm? 40 cm?
Should it be right below or does it benefit from light '' diffusion ''?
Hi, that is really up for me to discover in time. There is no golden rule of placing plants at a certain distance, it can depend on light demand of each plant and the bulb itself. All 3 setups are 'mobile' and currently at different heights. For grow lights to deliver the spectrum they 'promise', they cannot have a plastic, or other material, diffuser such as the home bulb, if that's what you're asking ☺️
@@MissOrchidGirl thanks! I don't know if you remember but you already replied to one of my comments regarding lights quite recently, even more recently someone advised me to remove the transparent plastic covers on my bulb (6000k ugly pink full spectrum) to make them even more efficient... Anyway, looking forward to checking your updates! BTW April is approaching, I can't wait to see your dimorphorchis lowii (and even the rossii!)
If you looked at the box, it said 'uMol/10cm', it is basically a formula that can be used to identify distance depending on your preference. Each plant have different desires.
@@Helveteshit sure, this is why I asked for high light plants, it's obviously easier with lower light ones like phals, I recently got a cattleya trianae grown under lights because I'm on a northern exposure and I hope it's gonna be enough, I'll see how my next growths look and hope for the best :)
I'm really excited to see you experimenting with lights, as I'm super new to indoor plant lighting! Are you planning on putting in a solid, opaque divider between the two sections? I'm thinking that it might be useful since the light radiates outward and your plants closer to the middle where they overlap might be receiving a mixture of the two different lights.
Hi, yes already placed a divider! ☺️
Very Good Video. So far I have no sensitivity to any color of lights. That being said I try not to have too many grow lights as my friends may be sensitive to some color of light. The grow lights that I have my orchids and violets seem to be happy with. Looking forward to the updates.
Hi Danny. Sorry on the different subject. I am trying to find the video where you have showed shallow DYI pot from Ikea. I understand that you have purchased some transparent shallow dish which has perfect fit with light blue metal (?)dish. My rootless rupicullous laelias have new grows and i am thinking to plant them for a long term in the shallow pots. I afraid 12cm orchid pots are too deep for them. Could you please advise the product Ikea codes of the dishes you have used so I could order online. Also how is your experiment is going for rupicullous laelias bark vs stones? I am thinking to keep them in the mix of moss, stones and small grade lava rock. But maybe it is better to repot them to bark? 😳Thank you very much in advance☺
I’m living in Canada, and as may of you may know that Cannabis was legal in Canada since Oct 2018. Many of my friends who grow orchids are not interested in cannabis or just hate it, but few months later we found out there are lost of articles online and lots of products on the market originally designed for growing cannabis actually worked perfectly for orchids. One of the major finding is that full spectrum light is actually better for plants comparing to pink lights. Also we grow orchids for aesthetic reasons, but using ugly pink lights in the living room runs counter to our original intention to grow orchids. The Ontario government may have lost $42M selling cannabis in the last year, but the local orchid fans did get some nice cannabis growing kits for their orchid collections.
Very excited what would be the result of this setup. Here in my region, I don't get a lot of sunlight, but investing in Grow lights is quite a pricey investment
Thank you so much for making this video. I am about to move house and worried my plants will not get enough light. Currently i keep my plants in my dining table next to French window so that they get enough light. I do get that weird look from people visiting my house because of having so much plants on the dining table. I am so pleased with the spotlight idea. I am so eager to try it once I move house.
Long, long ago (before most of your were born!) I had a grow-light set-up, one of the early consumer units, with those fluorescent red+blue tubes that colored everything magenta. I grew african violets among other plants then. Overall I think the african violets did well, but the color of the light was such that if you spent too much time around them there was a psychological effect.
Yeah I experienced that too uhh 😂
Remove the diffuser (globe) from the domestic LED bulb and you will get around 10% extra lumens as well as a tighter spread. Under these conditions they will work as good, if not better, than the fancy expensive grow lights. 4000k bulbs have a well-balanced spectrum.
Thank you so much for the great videos! I wanted to ask, what kind of flowers are those at the 21:39 and 21:49 marks? Thanks!!
Hey one question, do lights affect your health only when you look at it, or also when it's closed in a tent? Do they release some sort of radiation in the room?
Thanks, great video!
Thank you for the amazing tips. You are my guru and have inspired me to begin my own channel!!!
Thank you for doing this, I’m in the market for new lights and I’m looking forward to seeing the results you get. 🌱💕
I've been using indoor lights with motion sensors that trigger the ambient non grow lights and shut off weird the pink lights. I'm hoping this helps. I've spent last 3 hours on your channel researching orchids. Great content, thanks a lot. I'm a pro gardener in Barcelona but still experimenting and learning all the time. Best regards!
Great video! I'm also very sensitive to blue light but i will think about trying this
Do you also keep fishes? What are your thoughts on using the aquarium water, the ones is removed during water changes, to water orchids?
It’s perfect you should do it
@@justinmcgee2931 been doing for all the house plants, now next question is using it in enclosures that house a gecko or frogs
any thoughts on how these bulbs would work with Christmas Cactus or other succulents?
Hi missOrchidGirl, i have just identified on orchid that i have never seen before and was wondering if you have a care vid for it, the orchid is called Epidendrum centropetalum. I have seen that you do have a similar vid for a reed stem epidendrum.
How do you know what the proper distance between the light and the plants should be? How much area does each lamp cover? I'll be following this series with great interest
Hi, that is really up for me to discover in time. There is no golden rule of placing plants at a certain distance, it can depend on light demand of each plant and the bulb itself. All 3 setups are 'mobile' and currently at different heights. The PAR value on the box is expressed for an area of 10 cm, you can extrapolate from here to a bigger area, if that's what you asked ☺️
Great video! thank you for explaining everything clearly. However I have read some articles that say plants need a little of UV light, as example, it makes grown vegetables more tasteful and succulents more colorful (reddish instead of green). Also some companies sell grow lights with like 0.05% of UV. What is your opinion on that?
UV good 😉
Will it be ok if you give artificial light at night and natural light in morning?
thanks for this video, any update on the salad plants?
They don’t ship to the US. Any recommendations for US growers?
Fortunately for you, in USA and Canada you can find every grow light you could possibly imagine, available from many websites for a good price, especially Amazon. One reason is that cannabis is legal there, and the grow light business for cannabis is huge. Even if you don't grow cannabis, you can find great lights in those stores. It's a dream land for grow lights! In Europe it's very hard to find, and Amazon shipping costs more than the lights themselves.
Very interesting video, thanks so much for your research and info.
Is there a follow up on the difference in growth with the two different bulbs?
Yes, just type in the search bar 'missorchidgirl gemma' 😁
@@MissOrchidGirl Hi Danny, if you are so inclined, may I suggest a follow up experiment with Gemma Lights vs regular warm white recessed COB lights of ~4000k if possible. It will be so much cheaper to get recessed cob lights vs a dedicated grow light, and I don't think there will be much difference. Also with COB type lights, which are similar to design of these Gemma lights, knowing the beam angle you can calculate how much light you will get at different distances from the bulb, and it will help optimise setup for different plants, since the recommendations for different orchids in terms of optimum lux readings can be found in care guides. To calculate the lux, find out the lumens of your light, and the beam angle of the lamp from the specifications, and put them in a calculator from bannerengineering that you can find (2nd or 3rd result in my search) by googling lux to lumen calculator. I found that a light with 900 lumens (typical 9 w cob light with 100 lumen per watt efficacy and a beam width of 35° would give a lux reading of 12380 at a distance of 50 cm from the light, and it will properly illuminate an area 32 cm across at that distance. And you will be surprised how steeply the lux values fall as you move even a little further from grow lights. The one issue I feel people may have is the installation and the aesthetics of the setup, but it can save big big bucks.
Will aquarium lights work in this application in a small area?
Hi, I’m hoping someone can help me. I have just started purchasing plants and was wondering if light to plant distance is an issue. My ceilings are 10 ft and my plants would be about 6ft under a bulb. Is that too far away?
Usually grow lights work best 1 to 2 feet away from the leaves
I hate the blinding white lights but will be trying out a 5000k led bulb in a table lamp for an orchid this winter.
Do you have an update?
Yo about the green wave length! It would be very interesting to experiment with it. I mean of the back side of leafs do absorb green wave length. We may be able to light the plants from the bottom and it might increase vegging by 25%!
I bought a Bulb in ikea e26 that is 120 watts, 1000 lumen and 5k Kelvin. Just curious if anyone think this is fine to run 12 hrs a day or it will bump up electricity bills?
Knowing Ikea bulbs, I think that yours is 12 watts, not 120 watts. Running a 12 watts bulb for 12 hours a day in my country cost around 1€ per month. Electricity is not very expensive in my country, but also not extremely cheap. I doubt that you would spend more than 2€ per month, even if you live in a place where electricity is really expensive
I purchased grow lights from a gentleman called Jeff Young through Facebook. He also sells through eBay as The Orchid Hobbyist. He has designed these specifically for orchid growing. Since switching I have noticed a clear and definite improvement in the growth and blooming. Regardless of some rude comments by nasty little people, I am very interested in knowing what the results are. I grow in home conditions with all kinds of light from different sources, not a laboratory. Knowing that one performs better in conditions such as mine than another is absolutely useful and is absolutely something I would take into account if I was in the market for more lights.
Thanks for doing the research for us 😆
Great video thank you. I am also sensitive to the blue light
Interesting how the colour temperature of lights affect us. I spend most of my time at home and suffer from depression. I use mostly blueish lights for my plants and feel it gives me more energy. Having them on timers also helps my day rythm. I'm looking forward to updates :)
Snegle- Tarald my blueish/cool white plant lights have helped my seasonal depression too! I was pleasantly surprised.
@@MelissaWalker82 Yes, I was suprised by the effect :)
Sun light gives vitamin D to your body. Vitamin D deficiency often causes depression. These bright cool lights replicate sun's light so that's why it makes you feel better. Lack of sunlight causes depression
Love your accent, I'm curious about the seed, do you have more videos about your results?
Hi, I've placed an order for the 100W LED Growlight yesterday and there's no acknowledgement of my order/payment nor is there information on dispatch details. Are they reliable as I cannot find any contact details on their website. If I don't hear from them by the end of the week, I'll need to open a dispute with Paypal. Are you able to please provide information on the seller?
Hi, as I was saying I don't have experience with this brand, I'm just reviewing the product. I suggest contacting them and alowing a few days for an answer. Many companies reduced their activity this year due to the covid worldwide pandemic.
@@MissOrchidGirl Thank you so much for the reply. Yes, I'll wait until the end of the week and will be concerned if I don't hear anything back by then.
For making plants look great,I always go for the Gro Lights. I don't care if the bland "daylight" bulbs are as good. I hate the look of them in any type of fixture,LED,Flourescent,or Halide,Sodium ( ugh,yellow!) and incandescent. I would only use them as grow out lights on the bench..but in a home? Gro lights maybe mixed with white lights for more intensity. But NEVER all daylight,warm white or those "grow bulbs" that look orange. Give me purple!..ish.
Oh, lettuce again. Are you still growing vegetables from seeds? I remembered your mother sending you some from Romania.
How interesting. Like you you I like orange and red orchids. And like you I like warm light
Thanks for the great clip. Just a small correction: the bulb consumes 9 watts, not 9 watts per hour. :)
Bhaha ow wouldn't it be great if a bulb would consume 9 w only one time and that's it? :))) But that is not how it works, you should learn about energy consumption in your home www.winterselectric.net/2014/04/14/what-does-wattage-on-a-lightbulb-mean/
Is there an update to this?
Hi, yep! Go in the search section and type 'missorchidgirl gemma' you'll see it and all other updates I'll make in the future ☺️
A shame that they haven't added lumens into their technical chart. Even if PAR is more important, it is good to have Lux and Lumen in the product page. So it can be compared to other products on the market. For example, they are a Swedish company yet their product compete with 'Blomsterlandet' and 'Plantaget' which sell their own growlights. But they display it according Lumen and the Growlight tag. Since false advertisement is illegal, they can't really do scam products like in US.
So, it becomes hard for me to compare their 18W(As an example) toward another 18W. If I can't see the difference. Albeit, my current growlight for an aquarium. ( Vertical aquarium that I turned into a paludarium )
I use an 18W, same dimension as their 18W. But it looks more appealing, if one were to not use a shield around. Albeit I do that, to reduce light spread. Since mine hang around 40-50 cm from the lowest light point. ( i.imgur.com/jFp72Gz.jpg )
Another thing I wish they used, is the idea of making .ldt files for their product. So it can be utilised in programs like Dialux Evo (Free program) that allows you to test light out and visualize the product and more importantly... Compare it to competitors. Because even if Lumen isn't the important point. If you compare growlight. Lumen can still say one thing or two about the amount of light that might be provided as a Growlight. Depending on its light intensity. More importantly, one can visualize its light spread.
Hi, they do state the lux and lumen quantity, pause the video to read the box. It's also in the product page ☺️ thanjs for the feedback on the dialuxevo!
@@MissOrchidGirl Was speaking about their 18W on the website which sadly lacks these details. *Sob* In case it was better than my existing grow light that doesn't provide enough to penetrate throughout the full enclosure.
Oh I see, I'll pass this info on to them, they should definitely have these details on the website. Thanks!
so grow lights vs normal home bulb ... no conclusion or did i miss an episode ? i dont see any experience based on results here
Yep you missed an episode! Search 'missorchidgirl gemma bulbs results'
Where's your experiment result video?
Type in the search bar 'missorchidgirl gemma bulbs results'
@@MissOrchidGirl thank you
Hi Danny. My favorite subject, lighting though I've been lagging behind in knowledge of new lights available. Since there has been a push away from circular florescent lights (CFL's), incandescent, halogen, and into LED's the available lights has been limited because technology is ever new and developing. Will be interesting to see how your "salad" grows and wondering how these would compare to the old blueish CFL that was 6500k. Anyhow, thank you for interesting and fun presentation. Very nice camera work too.
Here's a question, does fish gets affected with the multi vapor white lamp used on saltwater aquariums 😵, I've always wondered ?
I am totally the same about blue light! I much prefer warmer lights. I also have a lot of other sensory sensitivity though, so I've never really thought about it as its own thing. I'm glad grow lights are moving away from those purple lights. They're cool in concept, but even looking at them on a screen is... Ick
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Your plants looks so healthy they look fake!