The creation of the story of the brazen bull always gives me chills. In describing the experience of the occupant inside the bull, the creator Perillos said to Phalaris "His screams will come to you through the pipes as the tenderest, most pathetic, most melodious of bellowings." Perillos believed he would receive a reward for his invention. Instead, Phalaris, who was disgusted by these words, ordered its horn sound system to be tested by Perillos himself, tricking him into getting in the bull. When Perillos entered, he was immediately locked in and the fire was set, so that Phalaris could hear the sound of his screams. Before Perillos could die, Phalaris opened the door and took him away. After freeing him from the bull, Phalaris is then said to have taken Perillos to the top of a hill and thrown him off, killing him. Phalaris himself is claimed to have been killed in the brazen bull when he was overthrown by Telemachus, the ancestor of Theron. That was from wikipedia. Anyway, can you imagine such a horrible death? The wikipedia article also says there is doubt as to whether the brazen bull really ever existed.
They had some cool ways of killing people back then. Another one that was more popular started in ancient greek times if not before and lasted into the 1800s was throwing people overboard from the front of a ship then reeling them back in from the opposite direction so they are torn apart by the keel.
Yeah, you should read some of the medieval torture tactics from Central Asia... some of them pale in comparison to this. Tamerlane was especially cruel to his enemies... I won't describe some of the punishments here because RUclips might flag the comments section but you can look them up online and you'll see what I mean. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe... and keep away from hollow bronze bulls!
Sorry, I gave the wrong impression. I'm not trying to explore gruesome tortures. I'm just saying the brazen bull has been something that made me very uncomfortable since I learned about it which was no more than 2 years ago. My interest in torture devices ended in junior high 30 years ago.
@וה גְּבוּרָה וה גדולה no problem! It's easy to want to share. I get in the mood to share other things that make some people uncomfortable and then have to stop myself. I don't think you did anything wrong
Smashes cup on floor: *Another one!* No but seriously. Greek colonisation is a very interesting subject, and I would very much like to see many more videos like this one.
The Greeks and Phoenicians teach us that trade shaped history on a much more fundamental level than violent conquest. Can't conquer a land if people don't already live there.
Yeah, actually I'm really impressed with the coins from Sicily, both Greek and Roman. Must be something about the mints they used... who knows, but thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More Greek colonies to come, stay safe!
Thanks! Just a short one before some longer ones next month. Will put out more like this in the coming months, hope to cover all of the major colonies and important poleis. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Syracuse is definitely on the list along with perhaps Massalia, Rhegium and a few other prominent ones. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Haha that was I think Steve Jobs' secret... I believe he said once "people don't know what they want until you show them" or something like that. But no, I wasn't following him, just happened to think this would make a good quick video before some of the longer ones slated for next month. Glad you like these short ones, will do some more. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Thanks! Yeah I'll do short videos like this in between longer ones so that you don't have to keep waiting weeks for the next program. Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
I love this! More videos where you zoom in and do the long history of a small place! More Greek colonies, Egyptian cities, cities from other civs. This is great!
Thanks my friend, glad you enjoyed this! I'll do more short videos on individual Greek colonies in between the longer videos so that you don't have to wait too long. Thanks also for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy, My pleasure. One little known fact among many about Acragas (or Akragas) you might like is the _Temple of Olympian Zeus,_ the largest Doric temple ever constructed (but never completed) adorned all around its colonnade with 7.5 metre high monumental Atlases of stone poised as if supporting the structure on their shoulders (one surviving example resides in the museum in Agrigento). A unique architectural example, that we know of, of its kind in the Greek world.
My pleasure, glad you liked this and I'll do some more on Sicilian and north African colonies in the next few months, stay tuned! Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it!
Happy Belated Nowruz, thanks for always giving me something to watch as I prepare for a week of work. You're about to tell me about that time a civilization had a really bad week, yet time marches on all the same. I'm just going to try my best and not throw anyone into a brazen bull.
Thanks my friend, hope that all is well with you and the week gets off to a great start. Haha yeah, stay away from any brazen animals... historically, it might not end well! Have a great week and stay safe!
Thanks man, comments like this make my day. I've been busy with other stuff lately but will start putting more of these shorter videos soon. Thanks again for the support, really appreciate it. Stay safe!
This makes me want to do an Acragas > Magna Graecia > Western Greek Empire playthrough of Imperator Rome, although it'd mean I'd have to put off my similar Tarentum > Magna Graecia playthrough. Decisions decisions.
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! I'll do some more on individual Greek colonies soon. Haha actually want to do a video just on Belisarius one day as I think he was one of the greatest generals of all time. I think that'll be sometime in 2022 as I get to that point in the time time. Hope all is well on your end and stay safe!
Thanks my friend, glad you liked this short one. I'll do more of them in between the longer ones. More Sicilian and other colonies coming soon, stay tuned and thanks!
Yeah, I really want to visit and would have last summer had it not been for c19. There's a whole Mediterranean tour I want to do including Sicily, Sardinia and Malta! Hope that all is well on your end and as always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
I never heard of this city before. It was quite interesting to learn about its history. I kind of feel sorry for the citizens. I mean it sounds like at times they had some horrid rulers.
Yeah there all kinds of rulers. Some of them were quite enlightened and did some good things while others were cruel. Perhaps in future I'll do some short bios on individual Greek generals and tyrants...a lot of them have very interesting stories! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
I’ve been subscribed for a while and been watching starting with the earliest videos, working my way to now. If I haven’t mentioned it before, this is a great channel.
"GREEK SIGNATURE DNA influence can be seen in Southern Italy and Sicily, where the genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%, and the southern Balkans" Di Gaetano, Cornelia; et al. (2009). European Journal of Human Genetics. 17 (1): 91-99
"Greek chromosomes" - note that the paper is about strictly the Y chromosome. And that the study differentiates between southern Balkan and northern African haplogroups, though of course there is no cultural information in the Y-chromosome, per se. The study thus shows that there is heterogeneity in the Y-chromsomes studied from Sicily that is compatible to historical claims of influence from the southern Balkans and from North Africa.
@@TheDanEdwards "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEANS AS THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS IN EUROPE" Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Luca; Menozzi, Paolo; Piazza, Alberto (1996). The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton University Press. pp. 255-301
@@vangelisskia214 "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL" " - one of the challenges in biogeography is to avoid projecting our modern cultural groups of people into the deep past. The book you cited is now 25 years old and much has been discovered since then, but even when that was written it was clear that human groups of today are descended from a plethora of ancient groups. The pages you cite are the entire chapter 5 of that book, which discusses Europe. In it Cavalli-Sforza et. al. attempt to create ancestral groups from DNA. Today we know much more, but the basic idea is that migrations are very important and though there are locales where populations have long history in a particular location, there is still the problem of detecting and understanding the founding populations. Terminology used today typically discuss "early farmers" or "hunter-gatherer [group n]" etc, leaving out contemporary cultural descriptors. To be more specific, I would not use the label "Greek" to describe early modern human inhabitants of the southern Balkans. There was nothing "Greek" about those early populations. They were human groups of an identity that no longer exist. Today's Greeks are as equidistant to their ancestors as we are to their ancestors. That is, the humans who lived say in the Balkans 30kya or 8kya, if they have descendants today, are the ancestors to all present humans of Eurasia, even if today's Mediterranean populations have more contribution from modern humans who lived in the same geography during the late Pleistocene or early Holocene. And even with today's Greek population, there is nothing inherently "Greek" about their DNA, just as with any population and cultural descriptors.
@@TheDanEdwards "A 2017 study on the genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans showed that MODERN GREEKS RESEMBLE THE MYCENAEANS, but with some additional dilution of the early neolithic ancestry. THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GENETIC CONTINUITY BETWEEN THESE CIVILIZATIONS AND MODERN GREEKS but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations." European Journal of Human Genetics, nature/articles/ejhg201718
@@TheDanEdwards "The study of ancient DNA suggests that THERE IS GENETIC CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE PREDECESSORS OF THESE ANCIENT CULTURES AND GREEKS TODAY. The Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations emerged from Aegean farming communities and gave rise to the Greeks who built the Parthenon and developed democracy. The findings, which were published online today (Aug. 2) in the journal Nature, also raise some questions about prehistoric migrations that set the stage for the Bronze Age." European Journal of Human Genetics nature/articles/ejhg201718
Nice vid, thanks. Two small criticisms: (1) You fail to mention that, unlike nearly every other colony, Akragas was built inland, something you can still observe in modern maps of Agrigento, which is almost 4 km from he shores in straight line. This defined the city in many aspects, notably the military one, because it was more susceptible to land-based sieges. (2) The Romans called it "Agrigentum", not "Agrigento", which is the modern (Italian, Sicilian) name (-um/-us > -u > -o, standard Vulgar Latin evolution).
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, appreciate it! Yes, it was slightly inland...the perfect setup for its many temples! With regard to the name, I mention at 5:03 that the Romans renamed it Agrigentum...it's also in the title of the video - "Greek Colony of Acragas (Akragas/Argrigentum, modern Argrigento, Sicily...). Anyway, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it and I'll put together more of these short videos in between the longer ones. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy - Maybe I misunderstood you? Native English speakers often have a funny way of (mis-)pronouncing Latin words. Yes, after rewatching it was that: it's correctly written Agrigentum but your pronunciation makes it sound Agrigento (almost identical to modern Italian pronunciation) or maybe agrigentu (with English "u" as in "but", should be as in "put", and too soft, almost imperceptible ending "m", also the "gen" syllable should technically be pronounced "ghen" but that was not what I was confused about so never mind). Fair enough, seems it was a misunderstanding on my side. My apologies.
@@LuisAldamiz No worries my friend... I think the "m" sound came out very faint on my part so was hard to hear unless you were really listening for it. Audio was often been one of my weaker points, especially in the beginning as I was learning how to record but hopefully it's getting better as I learn how to adjust the mic settings properly. Thanks again for your comments, always appreciated! I'll cover some more cities in the near future, not just Greek and Italian but other areas as well.
@@HistorywithCy - No problem, it's clearly written correctly and, would I have been paying attention to the image (which I was probably not doing), I would not have complained: just "accent".
@@HistorywithCy - Iberian cities maybe? Phoenician ones like Gadir? Among the Greek colonies I'm particularly interested on Massalia (Marseilles), which was IMO quite influential in the region, and to whom we probably owe the only relation of the kingdom of Tartessos (seemingly destroyed by Gadir soon afterwards). This is the very edge of civilization at the time: although Iberian civilization is quite old, one of the oldest of Europe, it did not leave a legacy, wrote little and most is hard to understand (Basque-ish but not close enough to read directly) but the Greco-Phoenician colonial period is somewhat better known and is the prelude to the great epic conflict of later times: the Second Punic War.
Keep up the good work, Cy! This was a great video. I only really knew about Syracuse, so thanks for expanding my knowledge on Greek colonies in Sicily! I hope one day you can make videos on the Seleukids, Greco-Bactrians, and Indo-Greeks, respectively. How the Macedonian and Greek rulers adopted Persian governing systems and trappings of power as well as the demographics of deported Ionian Greeks from the Achaemenid days, colonists and veterans of Alexander's campaign, and the various native people. A lot to cover, but I'd love to see your take!
@@eliaspapanikolaou3563 I'm not disputing the Greekness of ancient Macedon. Just the fact that the Macedon of Phillip II/Alexander the Great, and the Greek cities were different political entities, while both Hellenic.
@@tianlonghong665 Thanks you make it clear !it's some time confusing because Macedonian s where mountain tribe ,and not navigators as Kazantzakis famous Greek writer of Zorba the Greek said once "We are the only in Europe we are both Eagles and Dolfins!" Cause Greece is Fiull of mountain s and Surunding g by sea not lot plantation ,I think you are Chinese right?
@@eliaspapanikolaou3563 I like that expression of Eagles and Dolphins. Thank you for sharing! I will use that in the future :) I'm not Chinese myself, but this was my Chinese name from when I was a student in China.
Good afternoon Cy, I'm one of your subscribers and I appreciate your effort and correct if I'm wrong but I remember you mentioning that there will be a sequence for the Arab Khazar wars, thank you and keep up the good work.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yes, I will do something more on Khazars but probably not for a while as I want to finish up some ancient history before I get back to that. But I promise, I do have plans to continue what I started with them. Thanks for following up and stay safe!
I know you're more about history, but hear me out; you tell the mythological history of Greek cities and areas. Mythology is so expansive and often stories follow a single character, but what if we look at specific cities like Thebes and tell which stories are connected to them (without telling the full stories) in the order the stories would have happened. Like Just making one up now, but it could go like: Athens, it was founded by so and so, then this happened, then this happened, then Heracles visited and did a thing, then this happened, then in the Trojan was this happened. Something like that? What do you think?
Akragas.. the "pride of Sicily" ("Η υπερηφάνεια της Σικελίας"), as I like to call it. Akragas was simply the second most important polis of Magna Graecia (Μεγάλη Ελλάς), as the Romans called the Greek colonization within the current Italian regions of Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, Puglia and Campania (ESPECIALLY during Theron's reign). After the Battle of Himera, as the video already mentioned, Akragas became the most important polis of central Sicily! It is also important to note that Akragas was a democratic polis between 470 and 406 BC! Moreover, it was the scene of the very first battle of the First Punic War, when it was surrounded and conquered by the consuls Quintus Mamilius Vitulus and Lucius Postumius Megellus. I hope to visit its ruins someday, especially the Valley of the Temples! Great Video!
Me too, I wanted to visit both Sicily and Sardinia this past summer but, well, we all know how 2020 as far as travel was concerned. Hopefully in 2022... never been but would love to go! Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! More on individual Greek colonies to come, stay safe!
I had thought about it earlier in previous videos but don't think I'll do a separate one on it now... just too many other topics I'd like to get into. Thanks for the suggestion though!
Oh awesome, I had an Argentine friend whose grandfather was originally from there. I will definitely look into it, not just it's Greek history but in general as there is lots of history there. Thanks for the suggestion and for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Yes, I'll do my best to cover Rhodes and other Greek cities. They'll probably be short episodes like this one. Thanks for the reminder, appreciate it and stay safe!
So much southern Italy... Will you eventually talk about northern Italy too? The Venetian celts such as I will be more than happy to welcome you with open arms. By the grace of our great mother Reitia. Ok, but seriously. I am curious to see what you will do with the countless celtic cultures of northern Europe. A great video as always tho. 👍
Thanks, will also do some cities in N. Italy... I'd like to do something somewhat in depth on Etruscans, hopefully by the end of the year. Other Celtic cultures maybe in 2022 but no firm plans on that yet. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
Oh man, I really wish I could. Maybe learning about other peoples and their history will foster greater understanding between countries and less conflicts? I'd like to think so but who knows... Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe my friend and may there be more peace and understanding in the world!
Nope, not yet but soon, after I cover the Achaemenids, Seleucids, perhaps Etruscans and Romans (I'm sort of going in chronological order), I'll definitely get more into Carthage. Thanks for the suggestion, appreciate it! Stay safe!
Yeah - Carthaginian history is underrated, everyone just focuses on the achievements of Rome but man, the history of Carthage is pretty complex and fascinating. Hope to go into it sometime soon. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Hope all is well and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Thank you and I will ask you, please look for the original book because Amir Temur was a real Muslim and a commander, otherwise the national hero of Uzbekistan, some people changed history, well, there is a story. I just do not confuse 😬 😭 thanks 😊
Haha, thanks for breaking through the number of the beast, hopefully it's smooth sailing from here! Seriously though, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Carthaginians were incredibly cruel...they never left the city of Akragas alone. They were really destructive and merciless. They destroyed the jewels of Sicily, Selinunte and Akragas.
If only people could stop those who seek power at the expense of others. Stop fighting to steal the resources of others and let people farm, build homes, and trade in peace.
I always felt like the Sicilian Greek colonies have always been under looked. Good job!
Thanks! Just a quick video before a few longer ones next month. Enjoy and stay safe!
@Jordan & Jordan posting is about Agrigento Sicily not Macedonia....
The creation of the story of the brazen bull always gives me chills. In describing the experience of the occupant inside the bull, the creator Perillos said to Phalaris "His screams will come to you through the pipes as the tenderest, most pathetic, most melodious of bellowings." Perillos believed he would receive a reward for his invention. Instead, Phalaris, who was disgusted by these words, ordered its horn sound system to be tested by Perillos himself, tricking him into getting in the bull. When Perillos entered, he was immediately locked in and the fire was set, so that Phalaris could hear the sound of his screams. Before Perillos could die, Phalaris opened the door and took him away. After freeing him from the bull, Phalaris is then said to have taken Perillos to the top of a hill and thrown him off, killing him. Phalaris himself is claimed to have been killed in the brazen bull when he was overthrown by Telemachus, the ancestor of Theron.
That was from wikipedia. Anyway, can you imagine such a horrible death? The wikipedia article also says there is doubt as to whether the brazen bull really ever existed.
They had some cool ways of killing people back then. Another one that was more popular started in ancient greek times if not before and lasted into the 1800s was throwing people overboard from the front of a ship then reeling them back in from the opposite direction so they are torn apart by the keel.
@@MarkVrem that's terrible!
Yeah, you should read some of the medieval torture tactics from Central Asia... some of them pale in comparison to this. Tamerlane was especially cruel to his enemies... I won't describe some of the punishments here because RUclips might flag the comments section but you can look them up online and you'll see what I mean. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe... and keep away from hollow bronze bulls!
Sorry, I gave the wrong impression. I'm not trying to explore gruesome tortures. I'm just saying the brazen bull has been something that made me very uncomfortable since I learned about it which was no more than 2 years ago. My interest in torture devices ended in junior high 30 years ago.
@וה גְּבוּרָה וה גדולה no problem! It's easy to want to share. I get in the mood to share other things that make some people uncomfortable and then have to stop myself. I don't think you did anything wrong
Smashes cup on floor: *Another one!* No but seriously. Greek colonisation is a very interesting subject, and I would very much like to see many more videos like this one.
For sure, will put out more some other prominent Greek cities this summer. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Love the Greek "Colonial" Period, love learning about the trade routes that popped up as a result and the impact on the local regions.
Thanks, glad you liked it! More on Greek colonies to come, stay tuned!
I was very excited to see this video! I love the history of Sicily, and the Greek Colonies all over the Mediterranean.
The Greeks and Phoenicians teach us that trade shaped history on a much more fundamental level than violent conquest. Can't conquer a land if people don't already live there.
Thanks, there will be more as I think I'll keep doing short videos on individual Greek colonies like this one. Thanks for stopping by and stay safe!
Akragas made some of the most beautifull coins of the era.
Yeah, actually I'm really impressed with the coins from Sicily, both Greek and Roman. Must be something about the mints they used... who knows, but thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More Greek colonies to come, stay safe!
More Greek videos! Thanks man, keep it up! It's great.
Thanks! Just a short one before some longer ones next month. Will put out more like this in the coming months, hope to cover all of the major colonies and important poleis. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
I’d heard of the city because I’ve studied the history of Syracuse, but this was fascinating. I didn’t know this much about it.
Syracuse is definitely on the list along with perhaps Massalia, Rhegium and a few other prominent ones. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
I can always count on History with Cy to upload a video I didn't know I wanted to watch.
You're awesome, keep it up!
Haha that was I think Steve Jobs' secret... I believe he said once "people don't know what they want until you show them" or something like that. But no, I wasn't following him, just happened to think this would make a good quick video before some of the longer ones slated for next month. Glad you like these short ones, will do some more. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Haha! Glad to see more of the Greek colonies!
Thanks! Yeah I'll do short videos like this in between longer ones so that you don't have to keep waiting weeks for the next program. Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Sounds good!
@Jordan & Jordan bot
I love this! More videos where you zoom in and do the long history of a small place! More Greek colonies, Egyptian cities, cities from other civs. This is great!
Bless you, my friend (and, Happy Belated Nowruz).
I grew up around there and the Greek ruins are still impressive to behold.
Thanks my friend, glad you enjoyed this! I'll do more short videos on individual Greek colonies in between the longer videos so that you don't have to wait too long. Thanks also for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy,
My pleasure.
One little known fact among many about Acragas (or Akragas) you might like is the _Temple of Olympian Zeus,_ the largest Doric temple ever constructed (but never completed) adorned all around its colonnade with 7.5 metre high monumental Atlases of stone poised as if supporting the structure on their shoulders (one surviving example resides in the museum in Agrigento).
A unique architectural example, that we know of, of its kind in the Greek world.
Since I'm of Sicilian north African heritage, I especially liked this vid! Thanks cy, carry on! We await your next vid!
My pleasure, glad you liked this and I'll do some more on Sicilian and north African colonies in the next few months, stay tuned! Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it!
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Happy Belated Nowruz, thanks for always giving me something to watch as I prepare for a week of work. You're about to tell me about that time a civilization had a really bad week, yet time marches on all the same. I'm just going to try my best and not throw anyone into a brazen bull.
Thanks my friend, hope that all is well with you and the week gets off to a great start. Haha yeah, stay away from any brazen animals... historically, it might not end well! Have a great week and stay safe!
Cy, you've been a blessing during the pandemic. I listen to you while I work at home and you keep me company. Thank you so very much for what you do.
Thanks man, comments like this make my day. I've been busy with other stuff lately but will start putting more of these shorter videos soon. Thanks again for the support, really appreciate it. Stay safe!
This makes me want to do an Acragas > Magna Graecia > Western Greek Empire playthrough of Imperator Rome, although it'd mean I'd have to put off my similar Tarentum > Magna Graecia playthrough. Decisions decisions.
I’ve always wondered about civilization in this region! Cy does it once again. Thanks bro!
My pleasure, glad you found this useful! More Greek colonies to come, stay safe!
I've been through quite a few of your videos since the intro to Greek colonies video got recommended. A+ content.
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! I'll do some more on individual Greek colonies soon. Haha actually want to do a video just on Belisarius one day as I think he was one of the greatest generals of all time. I think that'll be sometime in 2022 as I get to that point in the time time. Hope all is well on your end and stay safe!
very interesting!
Thanks my friend, hope all is well with you...stay safe!
Fascinating 🖖🏼
Thank you, glad you liked it! Stay safe!
Sicily is always under looked I feel, so much great history. This was a really good one! Loved it!
Thanks my friend, glad you liked this short one. I'll do more of them in between the longer ones. More Sicilian and other colonies coming soon, stay tuned and thanks!
I had an opportunity to visit myself this amazing locality in 2019, special unique atmosphere, temple of Concordia looks unbelievabaly good.
Yeah, I really want to visit and would have last summer had it not been for c19. There's a whole Mediterranean tour I want to do including Sicily, Sardinia and Malta!
Hope that all is well on your end and as always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Thanks that was great
Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
Good stuff, great overview of the Greek colonies!
Thank you, glad you liked it! Stay safe!
Loved the video thanks for the insightful commentary!
Thanks, glad you like it! More on individual cities to come, stay safe!
Always enjoy your videos. Thanks
My pleasure! Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
This is a very interesting series. Do more of these!
For sure, will do! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
Great stuff, Cy!🙏😁
Thanks man, appreciate the support! Stay safe!
Good work CY!
Thank you, appreciate it! Stay safe!
Love your vids!
Thanks man, really appreciate it the support! More colonies and poleis to come, stay safe!
Thanks Cy👍👍👍
My pleasure, thank you for always stopping by, really appreciate it!
AWESOME, more please!
Thanks and will do! I'll put out short videos like this in between the longer ones on different cities and areas. Thanks again and stay safe!
Are there any communities in Sicily that are still Grecophonic?
This was very informative. I could definitely watch more. Thanks 😊
Not in Sicily, but Calabria (the toe of the Italian boot) still has some communities that speak Greek language variants.
Very nice!
Thank you! More to come, stay tuned!
I never heard of this city before. It was quite interesting to learn about its history. I kind of feel sorry for the citizens. I mean it sounds like at times they had some horrid rulers.
You may not want to look up the what the Mamertines did to Messana/Messina back in the 3rd Century BCE.
Yeah there all kinds of rulers. Some of them were quite enlightened and did some good things while others were cruel. Perhaps in future I'll do some short bios on individual Greek generals and tyrants...a lot of them have very interesting stories! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
I’ve been subscribed for a while and been watching starting with the earliest videos, working my way to now. If I haven’t mentioned it before, this is a great channel.
Thanks and sorry for the late reply... really appreciate it! Lots more on the way, stay tuned and safe!
Being french i do whant to see an episode on massalia especialy about the relationship between the greek and the natif gauls
It's interesting to learn about some Sicilian Greek colony, other than Syracuse.
Thank you, glad you liked it! I'll do one on Syracuse in the near future, stay tuned!
Super interesting! I'd never heard of the colony before. Do you happen to know the Greek spelling of the city's name? Thanks for the content!
Hi! Sure, it's Aκράγας. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to colonies to come, stay tuned!
amazing video
Thank you, glad you liked it! Stay safe!
"GREEK SIGNATURE DNA influence can be seen in Southern Italy and Sicily, where the genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%, and the southern Balkans"
Di Gaetano, Cornelia; et al. (2009). European Journal of Human Genetics. 17 (1): 91-99
"Greek chromosomes" - note that the paper is about strictly the Y chromosome. And that the study differentiates between southern Balkan and northern African haplogroups, though of course there is no cultural information in the Y-chromosome, per se. The study thus shows that there is heterogeneity in the Y-chromsomes studied from Sicily that is compatible to historical claims of influence from the southern Balkans and from North Africa.
@@TheDanEdwards "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEANS AS THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST POPULATIONS IN EUROPE"
Cavalli-Sforza, Luigi Luca; Menozzi, Paolo; Piazza, Alberto (1996). The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton University Press. pp. 255-301
@@vangelisskia214 "GREEKS ARE SOME OF THE EARLIEST CONTRIBUTORS OF GENETIC MATERIAL" " - one of the challenges in biogeography is to avoid projecting our modern cultural groups of people into the deep past. The book you cited is now 25 years old and much has been discovered since then, but even when that was written it was clear that human groups of today are descended from a plethora of ancient groups. The pages you cite are the entire chapter 5 of that book, which discusses Europe. In it Cavalli-Sforza et. al. attempt to create ancestral groups from DNA. Today we know much more, but the basic idea is that migrations are very important and though there are locales where populations have long history in a particular location, there is still the problem of detecting and understanding the founding populations. Terminology used today typically discuss "early farmers" or "hunter-gatherer [group n]" etc, leaving out contemporary cultural descriptors.
To be more specific, I would not use the label "Greek" to describe early modern human inhabitants of the southern Balkans. There was nothing "Greek" about those early populations. They were human groups of an identity that no longer exist. Today's Greeks are as equidistant to their ancestors as we are to their ancestors. That is, the humans who lived say in the Balkans 30kya or 8kya, if they have descendants today, are the ancestors to all present humans of Eurasia, even if today's Mediterranean populations have more contribution from modern humans who lived in the same geography during the late Pleistocene or early Holocene. And even with today's Greek population, there is nothing inherently "Greek" about their DNA, just as with any population and cultural descriptors.
@@TheDanEdwards "A 2017 study on the genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans showed that MODERN GREEKS RESEMBLE THE MYCENAEANS, but with some additional dilution of the early neolithic ancestry. THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GENETIC CONTINUITY BETWEEN THESE CIVILIZATIONS AND MODERN GREEKS but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations."
European Journal of Human Genetics, nature/articles/ejhg201718
@@TheDanEdwards "The study of ancient DNA suggests that THERE IS GENETIC CONTINUITY BETWEEN THE PREDECESSORS OF THESE ANCIENT CULTURES AND GREEKS TODAY. The Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations emerged from Aegean farming communities and gave rise to the Greeks who built the Parthenon and developed democracy. The findings, which were published online today (Aug. 2) in the journal Nature, also raise some questions about prehistoric migrations that set the stage for the Bronze Age."
European Journal of Human Genetics nature/articles/ejhg201718
Nice vid, thanks. Two small criticisms:
(1) You fail to mention that, unlike nearly every other colony, Akragas was built inland, something you can still observe in modern maps of Agrigento, which is almost 4 km from he shores in straight line. This defined the city in many aspects, notably the military one, because it was more susceptible to land-based sieges.
(2) The Romans called it "Agrigentum", not "Agrigento", which is the modern (Italian, Sicilian) name (-um/-us > -u > -o, standard Vulgar Latin evolution).
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, appreciate it! Yes, it was slightly inland...the perfect setup for its many temples! With regard to the name, I mention at 5:03 that the Romans renamed it Agrigentum...it's also in the title of the video - "Greek Colony of Acragas (Akragas/Argrigentum, modern Argrigento, Sicily...). Anyway, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it and I'll put together more of these short videos in between the longer ones. Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy - Maybe I misunderstood you? Native English speakers often have a funny way of (mis-)pronouncing Latin words.
Yes, after rewatching it was that: it's correctly written Agrigentum but your pronunciation makes it sound Agrigento (almost identical to modern Italian pronunciation) or maybe agrigentu (with English "u" as in "but", should be as in "put", and too soft, almost imperceptible ending "m", also the "gen" syllable should technically be pronounced "ghen" but that was not what I was confused about so never mind).
Fair enough, seems it was a misunderstanding on my side. My apologies.
@@LuisAldamiz No worries my friend... I think the "m" sound came out very faint on my part so was hard to hear unless you were really listening for it. Audio was often been one of my weaker points, especially in the beginning as I was learning how to record but hopefully it's getting better as I learn how to adjust the mic settings properly. Thanks again for your comments, always appreciated! I'll cover some more cities in the near future, not just Greek and Italian but other areas as well.
@@HistorywithCy - No problem, it's clearly written correctly and, would I have been paying attention to the image (which I was probably not doing), I would not have complained: just "accent".
@@HistorywithCy - Iberian cities maybe? Phoenician ones like Gadir?
Among the Greek colonies I'm particularly interested on Massalia (Marseilles), which was IMO quite influential in the region, and to whom we probably owe the only relation of the kingdom of Tartessos (seemingly destroyed by Gadir soon afterwards). This is the very edge of civilization at the time: although Iberian civilization is quite old, one of the oldest of Europe, it did not leave a legacy, wrote little and most is hard to understand (Basque-ish but not close enough to read directly) but the Greco-Phoenician colonial period is somewhat better known and is the prelude to the great epic conflict of later times: the Second Punic War.
great video, lot happened in sicily back then, given this was before carthage or rome were going full ham fighting over it.
Yup! The battleground of both... poor colonists, they were caught in the middle! Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it. Stay safe!
Impressive. Which tools do you use for presentation and video making?
Hi! Adobe Premiere and Photoshop... thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy thanks for replying.
Thank you Cy, I've put litte study into Greek colonies, seems like an interesting topic though
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching...more colonies on the way, stay tuned!
My family comes from sicily but my aunt took a genetic test that said we were mostly greek.
i own a greco scilian friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account discord
Keep up the good work, Cy! This was a great video. I only really knew about Syracuse, so thanks for expanding my knowledge on Greek colonies in Sicily! I hope one day you can make videos on the Seleukids, Greco-Bactrians, and Indo-Greeks, respectively. How the Macedonian and Greek rulers adopted Persian governing systems and trappings of power as well as the demographics of deported Ionian Greeks from the Achaemenid days, colonists and veterans of Alexander's campaign, and the various native people. A lot to cover, but I'd love to see your take!
All good my friend and cool only one thin k Macedonians where GREEKS
@@eliaspapanikolaou3563 I'm not disputing the Greekness of ancient Macedon. Just the fact that the Macedon of Phillip II/Alexander the Great, and the Greek cities were different political entities, while both Hellenic.
@@tianlonghong665 Thanks you make it clear !it's some time confusing because Macedonian s where mountain tribe ,and not navigators as Kazantzakis famous Greek writer of Zorba the Greek said once "We are the only in Europe we are both Eagles and Dolfins!" Cause Greece is Fiull of mountain s and Surunding g by sea not lot plantation ,I think you are Chinese right?
@@eliaspapanikolaou3563 I like that expression of Eagles and Dolphins. Thank you for sharing! I will use that in the future :) I'm not Chinese myself, but this was my Chinese name from when I was a student in China.
@@tianlonghong665 thank s all the best my friend enjoy the interesting journey of life
Good afternoon Cy, I'm one of your subscribers and I appreciate your effort and correct if I'm wrong but I remember you mentioning that there will be a sequence for the Arab Khazar wars, thank you and keep up the good work.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yes, I will do something more on Khazars but probably not for a while as I want to finish up some ancient history before I get back to that. But I promise, I do have plans to continue what I started with them. Thanks for following up and stay safe!
Oh, please please please PLEASE... Rhegium! 😍😍😍
It's on the list! Thanks for the suggestion, stay safe!
The coin at 3:15 was, to my knowledge, minted during the Second Punic War.
I know you're more about history, but hear me out; you tell the mythological history of Greek cities and areas. Mythology is so expansive and often stories follow a single character, but what if we look at specific cities like Thebes and tell which stories are connected to them (without telling the full stories) in the order the stories would have happened. Like Just making one up now, but it could go like: Athens, it was founded by so and so, then this happened, then this happened, then Heracles visited and did a thing, then this happened, then in the Trojan was this happened. Something like that? What do you think?
Please would you talk about the Nabataeans?
Akragas.. the "pride of Sicily" ("Η υπερηφάνεια της Σικελίας"), as I like to call it. Akragas was simply the second most important polis of Magna Graecia (Μεγάλη Ελλάς), as the Romans called the Greek colonization within the current Italian regions of Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, Puglia and Campania (ESPECIALLY during Theron's reign). After the Battle of Himera, as the video already mentioned, Akragas became the most important polis of central Sicily! It is also important to note that Akragas was a democratic polis between 470 and 406 BC! Moreover, it was the scene of the very first battle of the First Punic War, when it was surrounded and conquered by the consuls Quintus Mamilius Vitulus and Lucius Postumius Megellus.
I hope to visit its ruins someday, especially the Valley of the Temples! Great Video!
Me too, I wanted to visit both Sicily and Sardinia this past summer but, well, we all know how 2020 as far as travel was concerned. Hopefully in 2022... never been but would love to go! Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! More on individual Greek colonies to come, stay safe!
Zoti yjbrito kalabrëzët çar gjuhe flasin greqisht apo shqip më këthëni përgjigje mos gaboni në përgjigje pysni mirë
Akragas was sung as being the most beautiful city of the mortals by the famous Pindar in V century B.C.
I see Cy, I click like. Simple.
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! Glad you like these, even the short ones like this. More to come, stay safe!
I'd like to know whether Barcelona was really a Greek colony or whether it was named after hannibal barca's dad.
Cover the Trojan War pls!
One day for sure! Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Any future plans to make a video about the 4 ancient tribes of greece (Dorian, Ionian, Aeolian, and Achaean)?
I had thought about it earlier in previous videos but don't think I'll do a separate one on it now... just too many other topics I'd like to get into. Thanks for the suggestion though!
I'd like to live in that heroic time of the 7th century BCE.
Talk about Gadir, the oldest city in Europe! I live in there
Oh awesome, I had an Argentine friend whose grandfather was originally from there. I will definitely look into it, not just it's Greek history but in general as there is lots of history there. Thanks for the suggestion and for stopping by, really appreciate it. More to come, stay safe!
Hey, do you still plan to do something on the history of Rhodes?
Yes, I'll do my best to cover Rhodes and other Greek cities. They'll probably be short episodes like this one. Thanks for the reminder, appreciate it and stay safe!
neat.
Thanks, hope all is well!
So much southern Italy...
Will you eventually talk about northern Italy too?
The Venetian celts such as I will be more than happy to welcome you with open arms.
By the grace of our great mother Reitia.
Ok, but seriously.
I am curious to see what you will do with the countless celtic cultures of northern Europe.
A great video as always tho.
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Thanks, will also do some cities in N. Italy... I'd like to do something somewhat in depth on Etruscans, hopefully by the end of the year. Other Celtic cultures maybe in 2022 but no firm plans on that yet. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy
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You should definitively talk about Pavia.
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Akragas position on this map is wrong, it is more to the west on the coastline, closer to Heraclea Minoa than Gela
Love the history, hate the wanton slaughter of innocent people. Can you do something about that, Cy?
Oh man, I really wish I could. Maybe learning about other peoples and their history will foster greater understanding between countries and less conflicts? I'd like to think so but who knows...
Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe my friend and may there be more peace and understanding in the world!
Is it the same Acragas, that Empedocles lived in?
Correct!
I recall your videos on the bronze age Canaanites and subsequent Phoenicians, but I don't think you reached Carthage.
Nope, not yet but soon, after I cover the Achaemenids, Seleucids, perhaps Etruscans and Romans (I'm sort of going in chronological order), I'll definitely get more into Carthage. Thanks for the suggestion, appreciate it! Stay safe!
Love from ✨🇮🇹⚡️⚡️👋🏻😎
Grazie! Appreciate it and stay safe!
Gelon was the creator of Coza Nostra
Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
Next time massilia
Seconding that!
Massalia is definitely a contender! Thanks for the suggestion, stay safe!
cool
Thank you!
4:12
Damn. That sucks.
Looks like the Carthaginians got what was coming to them in 146 BC
Yeah - Carthaginian history is underrated, everyone just focuses on the achievements of Rome but man, the history of Carthage is pretty complex and fascinating. Hope to go into it sometime soon. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Hope all is well and stay safe!
Tamerlane plz
Hopefully in 2022, stay tuned!
@@HistorywithCy Thank you and I will ask you, please look for the original book because Amir Temur was a real Muslim and a commander, otherwise the national hero of Uzbekistan, some people changed history, well, there is a story. I just do not confuse 😬 😭 thanks 😊
Long live Pastafrola.
Haha yes, viva Pastafrola!
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Thank you!
@@HistorywithCy my pleasure!!!!
Phew! Updated number of likes to 667.
Haha, thanks for breaking through the number of the beast, hopefully it's smooth sailing from here! Seriously though, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
And THAT is how the city of Agrigento came to be.
What a stupidly old city.
Lucky buggalos...
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Yeah... and that's just one Sicilian city - many others with great histories too! Stay safe my friend and hope all is well!
Carthaginians were incredibly cruel...they never left the city of Akragas alone.
They were really destructive and merciless. They destroyed the jewels of Sicily, Selinunte and Akragas.
So Sicily had Greeks and Arabs wars
If only people could stop those who seek power at the expense of others. Stop fighting to steal the resources of others and let people farm, build homes, and trade in peace.
@@BiggestCorvid It must have been the way of life back then or something.
@Jordan & Jordan My ancestors are Romans
Basically, the Romans let the Carthaginians do the dirty work of ousting Greek colonists? 😅
Agragas in greek means, (ακρη- γη) edge land
all the antiquities we see are in the british museum.. that's a shame 😡😡