Merchant does everything in his power to take away from Mayweather and how he just dismantled Hatton. And Hatton was just straight up with Merchant and said no he just flat out beat me. Merchant just cant hide his hate for Mayweather which is why he lost his job.
What's not to hate about Mayweather ? But still, I agree the man is annoying mainly because he needs to give room to younger people and because of his slow as fuck pace when talking. I believe only retired boxers deserve to be commentating really
@@DidacticEditions This man revolutionized the sport as far as promotion. He realized creating this image gave him star power..Even if you wanted him to lose, you paid to see his fights! Even though you "hate" him, you can't help but watch him. He is a master of his craft. And then he mastered the marketing part as well. Is he the best ever? Debatable, but he has all his mental facilities, and is now a major player in the promoting game. It's fair to say he did it in a way no one else ever had done
@Razatigar Ault Dismantled Hatton when Hatton was hassled by the ref and was ridiculously given a point off.gayweather was allowed to hold,use elbows and duck below his waist without any warnings and Ricky Hatton had 8 times more fans than gayweather had in that fight
The most fair and accurate commentary comes from Hatton himself.. "Floyd was bigger and stronger than I thought, he was better inside than I expected, he was clever at slipping punches and resting, he was accurate and hit harder than I expected, he was better at fighting dirty than i was, he used angles...even if they dont all say it..that's pretty much what EVERYONE who fights Mayweather must think.
Larry Merchant has always hated on Floyd. I’m so glad he never got the pleasure of seeing Floyd lose. I’m so glad Larry is no longer commentating. He he such a hater.
Ricky Hatton is a true champion. He didn't make any excuses. It isn't a tickling contents. Hatton gave credit when credit is due. Respect for both fighters. "He was better inside than I thought"
There's a reason for all the cheering with Ricky Hatton! He was a brillaint fighter only to be beaten by the best but he was an honest bloke, kind and always put his fans first.
I dont like when they said that Floyd picked Hatton; most people dont know that Ricky Hatton was Mayweather's MANDATORY WBC welterweight opponent. Ricky was the #1 contender for that title......box rec dot com has the information if you want to look it up
This fight was one of the biggest of its time, I remember the build-up to it and I genuinely thought that Hatton was gonna win, but he was outclassed completely, couldn't get a good hit in. After I couldn't believe that Hatton ever had a chance.
@Screen027 you got a fair point de la hoya was dehydrated and got skinnier, hatton wasnt all that after May and cotto was mentalily beaten. but lets see what happens cause i'm going for pacquiao but i think floyd might win.
@ballinjerry Fights aren't scored by compubox. I scored that fight for Floyd 7 rounds to 4 with 1 even. Castillo would come in an pressure him, but he wasn't landing the effective shots, Floyd was. Don't get caught up in the HBO hype. Watch that fight again with the volume down.
i agree...but even with that...cant argue that it somehow works out for him considering he's 45-2...im thinking he should work more on his defensive skils tho because most of his fights he takes the offensive the majority of the time
@MrHotsauce84 so are you suppose to agree to every fight someone challenges you too? marquez asked pacquiao for a part 3 fight but pacquiao didn't accept. so you can't say floyd is one either.
@CarnardP My statement was noted with sarcasm if you didn't realize. Sarcasm okay! It's just to emphasize that he doesn't want to fight pacman that's all. You didn't have to give me all that explanation to prove your point. Mayweather will retire because he doesn't want to fight pacman. I hope you've been following boxing to see the reality of this fact.
@songotenz02 wrong again hahah, floyd was challenging cotto when he was coming up to welterweight. he even fought brusselles who was cotto's friend, sparring partner, etc. cotto mimicked floyd in sparring for the fight and look what happened. KO. also cotto was sparring partner to Gatti and ring side again, guess hat happened? watch the fights, mayweather stares cotto down inbetween rounds. roy jones even said they don't want to fight may know cuz it will tarnish their early careers.
Mayweather was intelligent at this time saying he was retiring forcing promotions to over pay to get him back in the ring and he did walk away for two years to heal his hands
Floyd probably is the best of all time .. but he will go down as the guy that waited till his hardest opponents were past it ... people like him is why boxing has been declining
Floyd keeps beating all of the fighters that people claim he's ducking. Cotto, Mosley, Corrales, Baldomir, Castillo, Canelo. All fighters that people said Floyd was ducking and he beat all of them. His 49th or 50th fight will be against Pacquiao. What will be the excuse when he knocks Pacquiao out?
awesomelm83 he is a cherry picker, a true champion would’ve fought pacquiao as soon as possible (2008,2009) since Floyd was so good, even if he lost he would’ve definitely got a rematch
@elburro12345 What makes you think Cotto can beat Mayweather? Cotto has never really called out Floyd, when asked all he'll say is 'I'll fight anybody' so wtf are you talking about? After May destroyed Gatti, Cotto wanted none of May.
Considering that most of us know now that Bob Arum doesn't let his fighters have matches outside Top Rank, is there a chance that Merchant knew this back then and was trying to make Floyd look scared, or could it be he really didn't know?
Exactly. Commentators, potential rivals and their coaches all underestimate him. Because he is a 'slickster' they don't pay attention to all his other skills. All his defeated opponents always seem dejected. Cotto was even more upset than Hatton, even though unlike Ricky he had tasted a loss before. It looked like he was crying in the locker room and it's because of that ability to make people like they are 'in the fight.'
@TheMurderuh wrong he couldnt finish floyd for damn sure because he got mosley who doesnt have defense anywhere near floyds in a bad situation and couldnt finish him which is pretty sad......
yeah i know fights are scored by compubox.....but the punch stats were so one sided its unreal...i dont need to watch the fight with out without volume or announcing to know floyd lost.....u don't think castillo was landing effective punches because his most effective punches were to the body....people overlook that in pretty much every fight...but like 177 power punches landed for castillo to like 66 for mayweather..i mean gimme a break..
@cumlikatrain i agree 100%. it was wrong of ricky not to congratulate floyd on that victory. defeat is hard to take, but he should have shown floyd some credit, instead of commenting on him not being the hardest, fastest he's fought, and saying that he made some sneaky fouls. Floyd Mayweather won this fight fair and square, he deserved the victory.
@TheImmortalFlip yea its sad just shows he doesnt know what to do in a boxing situation.... and almost he wasnt even close u need to watch the fight again buddy....
No way this was 89-81. Lederman was approx correct, 86-84. Hatton still had a chance to win or draw. Hatton did everything he wanted in this fight. If he had a little more head movement, and dodged some of Floyd's right (and left)shots, Hatton could have bagged this.
@maxsun13 Yeah your right. But it wasn't that shane had a luck chin. It was that floyd DIDN'T GO FOR THE KNOCKOUT WITH MOSLEY. Emmanuel STeward even said that mosley was luck because Floyd had let up and didn't knock em out. Floyd has power. Its just that hes so defensive that people forget that he has an arsenal of offense with him. Thats the difference between pac and floyd and thats the wildcard. He has the better "D." Datz in floyds favor. Pacs "O" is his defense. Floyd can exploit it
Hatton is exciting to watch, but he is too ine dimensional. I've always felt that his severe lack of head movement and the absence of the double jab has always been a weakness of Hatton. He has to change his game plan altogether for his comeback,
Exactly...i mean why keep fighting the same fighters in the same division and not make more money...people do not understand this is his business...its just like going to a job and not accepting a promotion for more money...i makes no sense you are going to take the job that will give you more money...mayweather is taking fights that gives him more money...he has bills to pay also
Floyd doesn't duck fighters. Thats what Arum says and because you know nothing you turn around and repeat that. Its funny how when Floyd was under Top Rank, he wasn't ducking anybody. Moment he leaves, becomes his own man and then gets more money in one fight than he did in all of his fights under TR then he's a coward, ducker and a chicken and people like you believe it.
@ballinjerry u do know a power shot is anything other then a jab right? so you could throw a lazy hook that would count as a power shot. I had floyd also up that fight. it seems most people plain with floyd is to hit anything because, he makes it to hard to land on him flush. a hit anything attitude wont get you the win . this is not amateur boxing. castillio tried to hit anything and pressure floyd
@emforty2 His father told Hatton to move his head around in the ring and he didnt do it. At this point, he was already shot and couldnt fight anymore. Manny's trainer knew he was washed up which is why he wanted to fight him Which is why it took only two rounds because he didnt have the footspeed, the drive nor the will to fight the way he did against Floyd, against Manny.
@bird4200 zab judah knocked floyd down? he low blowed floyd because he was knocking the shite out of him, and was close to getting knocked down, and to kill some time? go watch the fight if you dont believe me. How did he duck Margarito? Even still, Margarito is a steroid user who uses plaster of paris anytime he fights. Floyd didnt duck Shane, shane was actually offered to fight floyd a decade ago and he refused. He only came forward to fight floyd when he was nearing the end of his career and
Listen to Hatton's comment after the fight,a lot floyd's opponents say that after they fight him,but before the fight they thing they can just pressure him and he'll wilt under the presssure.
@elburro12345 Pacquiao fought DLH, Hatton and Cotto well past their primes also. And even Morales. Roach openly admits that these fighters are washed up. Look at his interviews, he said Mayweather took something out of Hatton. He said Cotto was never the same after the Margarito beating. He said that DLH was washed up.
@jebr1983 Paquiao is use 2 brawling, but when it comes to skills he's average (if that). Bob Arum is a great match maker; that's the mystery. Brawler vs. boxer.... what's the name of the game? EXACTLY!! PEACE!
"I fought the best from DLH & Hatton", he said it...LOL after being asked about his future before he retired. Cotto was a huge threat to him at that time, just like Pac is a huge threat to him this time. Just go by the NSAC drug test requirement and fight, so us fans can see who really is the best of this era!!!!
I like how even after he got knocked out the fans kept singing, lol, but yea, he talks shit to fill seats because everyone wants to see somebody shut him up.
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Merchant does everything in his power to take away from Mayweather and how he just dismantled Hatton. And Hatton was just straight up with Merchant and said no he just flat out beat me. Merchant just cant hide his hate for Mayweather which is why he lost his job.
What's not to hate about Mayweather ? But still, I agree the man is annoying mainly because he needs to give room to younger people and because of his slow as fuck pace when talking. I believe only retired boxers deserve to be commentating really
Larry asked the right questions
@@DidacticEditions This man revolutionized the sport as far as promotion. He realized creating this image gave him star power..Even if you wanted him to lose, you paid to see his fights! Even though you "hate" him, you can't help but watch him. He is a master of his craft. And then he mastered the marketing part as well. Is he the best ever? Debatable, but he has all his mental facilities, and is now a major player in the promoting game. It's fair to say he did it in a way no one else ever had done
@Razatigar Ault Dismantled Hatton when Hatton was hassled by the ref and was ridiculously given a point off.gayweather was allowed to hold,use elbows and duck below his waist without any warnings and Ricky Hatton had 8 times more fans than gayweather had in that fight
The most fair and accurate commentary comes from Hatton himself.. "Floyd was bigger and stronger than I thought, he was better inside than I expected, he was clever at slipping punches and resting, he was accurate and hit harder than I expected, he was better at fighting dirty than i was, he used angles...even if they dont all say it..that's pretty much what EVERYONE who fights Mayweather must think.
Larry Merchant has always hated on Floyd. I’m so glad he never got the pleasure of seeing Floyd lose. I’m so glad Larry is no longer commentating. He he such a hater.
nobody got the pleasure of seeing Floyd lose lol
😂 he sold the post conference interviews
Hatton was so fair in his interview. Owned the loss like a man
Fuck no he ain't sound like no man he sound like a sore loser
Had no choice
'Larry Merchant has some issues......
I could not agree more. They have something personal against Mayweather. The guy keeps winning. Give him some credit.
Ricky Hatton is a true champion. He didn't make any excuses. It isn't a tickling contents. Hatton gave credit when credit is due. Respect for both fighters.
"He was better inside than I thought"
He’s done nothing but make excuses in the years since this
There's a reason for all the cheering with Ricky Hatton! He was a brillaint fighter only to be beaten by the best but he was an honest bloke, kind and always put his fans first.
You're right..when people lose to Mayweather they look dejected cause they're thinking, "I have never in my pro career been beaten on so many levels."
manny steward= knew everything about boxing and was such a nice bloke.
The "What a fluke that was" joke went down like a fucking lead balloon
Everyone in the crowd started laughing shows the power of hatton and the forwd
Every time I saw Merchant interviewing someone…I always thought how is this guy not fired yet!!
Larry Merchant really doesn't like Mayweather at all
Floyd the best ever
still undefeated
This comment aged reaaally well wow
I dont like when they said that Floyd picked Hatton; most people dont know that Ricky Hatton was Mayweather's MANDATORY WBC welterweight opponent. Ricky was the #1 contender for that title......box rec dot com has the information if you want to look it up
That boy Floyd look like he ain’t get touched once 😂😂
This is the reason why he has the nickname "pretty boy".
is that Matthew Macklin behind Hatton in the interview?
miss ricky hatton, sums him up wen he says i went too gun ho! ledgend
@tinkerin0 is that why cotto said he didn't want to fight floyd after he was called out after gattie?
I agree. I think you nailed it.
i wished i seen this fight live
This fight was one of the biggest of its time, I remember the build-up to it and I genuinely thought that Hatton was gonna win, but he was outclassed completely, couldn't get a good hit in. After I couldn't believe that Hatton ever had a chance.
The buildup was unbelievable
is hatton ever gnna fight again?
@Screen027 you got a fair point de la hoya was dehydrated and got skinnier, hatton wasnt all that after May and cotto was mentalily beaten. but lets see what happens cause i'm going for pacquiao but i think floyd might win.
@turkyish I used to be a boxer in Golden Gloves, does that count?
@ballinjerry Fights aren't scored by compubox. I scored that fight for Floyd 7 rounds to 4 with 1 even. Castillo would come in an pressure him, but he wasn't landing the effective shots, Floyd was. Don't get caught up in the HBO hype. Watch that fight again with the volume down.
@Ahmet1445 THANK YOU!!! finally someone says it, you couldnt have said it better my friend
You can really tell how envious Floyd is of Hatton's fans even after he's lost. I don't think Floyd will ever have that.
i agree...but even with that...cant argue that it somehow works out for him considering he's 45-2...im thinking he should work more on his defensive skils tho because most of his fights he takes the offensive the majority of the time
@godbrolyy You're not a Mayweather fan. You're just saying that so people will take your post more seriously.
Hatton will have the best fans at least.
Who cares Floyd kick his ass
That’s the longest cuddle I’ve ever seen
After every Floyd fight,Merchant asks why dont you want to fight etc,etc,etc,.......just holding onto the hope that some day Floyd will be beaten.
@Alphaigniter Pacquaio lost to Marquez 3 times so how is the best?
@MrHotsauce84 so are you suppose to agree to every fight someone challenges you too? marquez asked pacquiao for a part 3 fight but pacquiao didn't accept. so you can't say floyd is one either.
Merchant wants to say to Mayweather '' You still have to fight the best fighters like Cotto,pacquiao,margarito,etc.....
@CarnardP My statement was noted with sarcasm if you didn't realize. Sarcasm okay! It's just to emphasize that he doesn't want to fight pacman that's all. You didn't have to give me all that explanation to prove your point. Mayweather will retire because he doesn't want to fight pacman. I hope you've been following boxing to see the reality of this fact.
Ricky was humble enough to admit Floyd was a lot quicker and faster even when Hatton was in his prime like.
People, People.
There Is No Use In Arguing With A Hater. Once A Hater, Is Always A Hater.
Yeah and even when judah low blowed him he still reached out to hug him the last round and gave him a lot of respect at the end of the fight
Lol
Well said.
Boxing doesn't retire you, PACMAN will retire you!
This didn't age well
Great fight truly mayweather's best fight and of course corralles Great fighter!
He looked like a MAGICIAN against Arturo Gatti ...🥊💪🏾💯
cotto this weekend too. damn if he fights these guys then he can have his credit plus some
@cumlikatrain Mayweather vs Pacquiao will happen, but only when Mayweather is retiring, It will be Mayweathers last fight win or lose regardless
Hatton a bad sportsman, he still didnt give the man his props. After he was dropped. Been a fan since he came from the Olympics. Money Team 4 life
@LoowheezeBreeze LOL the english are some funny, cool dudes
hatton is a cool guy ... very humble in defeat
i would of loved to see floyd fight cotto when he waz undefeated or vernon forrest those would of been good tough figts for floyd
@k9bandit4life sorry about that i meant to say larry merchant i wrote emanuel steward because he were talkin at the time i typed it lol..
Wow I never realised when Ricky is being interviewed Mathew Macklin is stood behind him!
HBO productions but these new ones to shame
Also, DLH had just knocked out Mayorga BEFORE he fought Floyd so how was DLH an inactive fighter?
@songotenz02 wrong again hahah, floyd was challenging cotto when he was coming up to welterweight. he even fought brusselles who was cotto's friend, sparring partner, etc. cotto mimicked floyd in sparring for the fight and look what happened. KO. also cotto was sparring partner to Gatti and ring side again, guess hat happened? watch the fights, mayweather stares cotto down inbetween rounds. roy jones even said they don't want to fight may know cuz it will tarnish their early careers.
Now that Floyd has damn near beaten everyone, I wanna see him get in the ring with people like Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquiao, just to name a couple.
Aged well
He did and won.
@Mr9mm4u Well said. People don't want to believe that Manny is ducking the test but the fact is that he is.
Mayweather was intelligent at this time saying he was retiring forcing promotions to over pay to get him back in the ring and he did walk away for two years to heal his hands
What happend to larry merchant not that i miss him but i would like to know what happend to him..........Max kellerman is doing a better job..........
Floyd probably is the best of all time .. but he will go down as the guy that waited till his hardest opponents were past it ... people like him is why boxing has been declining
does anyone know what ounce those gloves Mayweather fought in are
10
Floyd keeps beating all of the fighters that people claim he's ducking. Cotto, Mosley, Corrales, Baldomir, Castillo, Canelo. All fighters that people said Floyd was ducking and he beat all of them. His 49th or 50th fight will be against Pacquiao. What will be the excuse when he knocks Pacquiao out?
awesomelm83 he is a cherry picker, a true champion would’ve fought pacquiao as soon as possible (2008,2009) since Floyd was so good, even if he lost he would’ve definitely got a rematch
@elburro12345 What makes you think Cotto can beat Mayweather? Cotto has never really called out Floyd, when asked all he'll say is 'I'll fight anybody' so wtf are you talking about? After May destroyed Gatti, Cotto wanted none of May.
See how Floyd has his arm over Larry merchant back when Floyd and Merchant were still friends.
always givin floyd SHIT ! DO YOU SEE COTTO CALLING FLOYD OUT ?????
thank you !
Considering that most of us know now that Bob Arum doesn't let his fighters have matches outside Top Rank, is there a chance that Merchant knew this back then and was trying to make Floyd look scared, or could it be he really didn't know?
@mrniwniw Haton was hugging Floyd and Floyd hugged him back. Thats what Hatton was doing the whole fight and Floyd out performed him in that aspect.
Exactly. Commentators, potential rivals and their coaches all underestimate him. Because he is a 'slickster' they don't pay attention to all his other skills. All his defeated opponents always seem dejected. Cotto was even more upset than Hatton, even though unlike Ricky he had tasted a loss before. It looked like he was crying in the locker room and it's because of that ability to make people like they are 'in the fight.'
@TheMurderuh wrong he couldnt finish floyd for damn sure because he got mosley who doesnt have defense anywhere near floyds in a bad situation and couldnt finish him which is pretty sad......
yeah i know fights are scored by compubox.....but the punch stats were so one sided its unreal...i dont need to watch the fight with out without volume or announcing to know floyd lost.....u don't think castillo was landing effective punches because his most effective punches were to the body....people overlook that in pretty much every fight...but like 177 power punches landed for castillo to like 66 for mayweather..i mean gimme a break..
That was some night !
@Maryjaneslave Cotto?? Didn't cotto get ko'd twice? Cotto has to find floyd first.
@cumlikatrain i agree 100%. it was wrong of ricky not to congratulate floyd on that victory. defeat is hard to take, but he should have shown floyd some credit, instead of commenting on him not being the hardest, fastest he's fought, and saying that he made some sneaky fouls. Floyd Mayweather won this fight fair and square, he deserved the victory.
@Ahmet1445 Thank you!!!! i was about say that!! mutch love
@TheImmortalFlip yea its sad just shows he doesnt know what to do in a boxing situation.... and almost he wasnt even close u need to watch the fight again buddy....
No way this was 89-81. Lederman was approx correct, 86-84. Hatton still had a chance to win or draw. Hatton did everything he wanted in this fight. If he had a little more head movement, and dodged some of Floyd's right (and left)shots, Hatton could have bagged this.
If "if" was a fifth...
They stepped on each other's foot,its not that he was going down
@maxsun13 Yeah your right. But it wasn't that shane had a luck chin. It was that floyd DIDN'T GO FOR THE KNOCKOUT WITH MOSLEY. Emmanuel STeward even said that mosley was luck because Floyd had let up and didn't knock em out. Floyd has power. Its just that hes so defensive that people forget that he has an arsenal of offense with him. Thats the difference between pac and floyd and thats the wildcard. He has the better "D." Datz in floyds favor. Pacs "O" is his defense. Floyd can exploit it
Hatton is exciting to watch, but he is too ine dimensional. I've always felt that his severe lack of head movement and the absence of the double jab has always been a weakness of Hatton. He has to change his game plan altogether for his comeback,
how could you say such things if it was floyd the one avoiding pac? no offense
Exactly...i mean why keep fighting the same fighters in the same division and not make more money...people do not understand this is his business...its just like going to a job and not accepting a promotion for more money...i makes no sense you are going to take the job that will give you more money...mayweather is taking fights that gives him more money...he has bills to pay also
i wonder when floyd beats cotto and pacquiao who larry merchant will bring for floyd..? he gonna do a hologram of tyson in his prime to fight floyd?
Floyd doesn't duck fighters. Thats what Arum says and because you know nothing you turn around and repeat that. Its funny how when Floyd was under Top Rank, he wasn't ducking anybody. Moment he leaves, becomes his own man and then gets more money in one fight than he did in all of his fights under TR then he's a coward, ducker and a chicken and people like you believe it.
@ballinjerry u do know a power shot is anything other then a jab right? so you could throw a lazy hook that would count as a power shot. I had floyd also up that fight. it seems most people plain with floyd is to hit anything because, he makes it to hard to land on him flush. a hit anything attitude wont get you the win . this is not amateur boxing. castillio tried to hit anything and pressure floyd
Merchant just holds on to the hope that one day Floyd will be beaten.
@emforty2 His father told Hatton to move his head around in the ring and he didnt do it. At this point, he was already shot and couldnt fight anymore. Manny's trainer knew he was washed up which is why he wanted to fight him Which is why it took only two rounds because he didnt have the footspeed, the drive nor the will to fight the way he did against Floyd, against Manny.
That's real Mayweather should not have to explain why he wants to retire.
@Screen027 True Statement
Listen to the crowd 😂 win or lose brits will sing ur fucking name
@bird4200 zab judah knocked floyd down? he low blowed floyd because he was knocking the shite out of him, and was close to getting knocked down, and to kill some time? go watch the fight if you dont believe me. How did he duck Margarito? Even still, Margarito is a steroid user who uses plaster of paris anytime he fights. Floyd didnt duck Shane, shane was actually offered to fight floyd a decade ago and he refused. He only came forward to fight floyd when he was nearing the end of his career and
@MegaBoxerdude Their 10 ounce gloves.
Listen to Hatton's comment after the fight,a lot floyd's opponents say that after they fight him,but before the fight they thing they can just pressure him and he'll wilt under the presssure.
@elburro12345 Pacquiao fought DLH, Hatton and Cotto well past their primes also. And even Morales. Roach openly admits that these fighters are washed up. Look at his interviews, he said Mayweather took something out of Hatton. He said Cotto was never the same after the Margarito beating. He said that DLH was washed up.
@jebr1983 Paquiao is use 2 brawling, but when it comes to skills he's average (if that). Bob Arum is a great match maker; that's the mystery. Brawler vs. boxer.... what's the name of the game? EXACTLY!! PEACE!
agreed me too
E manual Stuart looking fresh. Rip
PBF seems to have a lot of respect for the british fans
@deepbg1 correct
"I fought the best from DLH & Hatton", he said it...LOL after being asked about his future before he retired. Cotto was a huge threat to him at that time, just like Pac is a huge threat to him this time. Just go by the NSAC drug test requirement and fight, so us fans can see who really is the best of this era!!!!
I like how even after he got knocked out the fans kept singing, lol, but yea, he talks shit to fill seats because everyone wants to see somebody shut him up.
no excuses mayweather was in the olympics when he was a kid.