That was hard to watch. Those poor Gnomes...... I can't remember the last time I hit a pomegranate. Seriously though, this is great! I love to see new innovations in our sport!
yes, we are testing a new profile for fixed pitch prop. If it proves better we will implement the protective layer on the new prop, if not then we will do that to the old proven scout prop.
This is such a cool innovation. Props are expensive to replace. Slightly off topic, but do you think that this coating would work on wind turbine blades? I know that the blade's leading edges are subject to damage from things they strike while operating.
A word of CAUTION. Making undestructable things (props e.g.) will put a significant area of prop production out of business. Currently the prop manufacturers have a comfortable sustainable profit of producing well-distructible props. Notice: they even silently agreed on _never_ putting a decent film protection on their leading edges! So we have to do it by ourselves and rebalance. And there can be no complains, because the prop crack is _always_ "our" fault. Just because we fly! So, Miro - be carefull or "they" might kill you! :) I guess they are already a little worried by your varioprop (in hope it will be so expensive and complicated so we cannot afford or set it up). Making a cheap undistructible prop would be an end to their prosperity.
The variomatic mechanism adds 600 grams but it is located in the center so it is almost neglible. The few mm of rubber do nothing to the weight. The prop itself is not stronger nor reinforced as it is already strong enough. We are now addressing the issue of leading edge hitting small objects that would normally crack the carbon.
I cannot get it on our R&D task list this year, we already work on too many projects. But maybe next year we can start that. I am a big fan of that engine.
Beautiful. At the same time, it is the elasticity of prop tape that is the very reason we put prop tape on our propellers. Perhaps a thicker prop tape is a close second equivalence.
I prefer a broken propeller to a severed arm. I prefer a broken propeller to a stone flying at the speed of a bullet, which did not extinguish the energy on the blade, but gained it.
Not yet. The first thoughts are: cool but our props spin too fast for that. The Moster spins the prop at 3200 prop which is far from ideal. Aerodynamically ideal would be around 2500 (the Atom 80 got it right). No idea why Vittorazi and others decided for such a small reduction ratio.
Great vid 👍 I am still remaining skeptical. Though impressive, hitting a nail an arm speed vs a hard object like a stone or engine nut/screw going through the prop at cruise or take off rpm is whole different can of worms. Cheers
@@MatejRoder That's hardly evidence. He could have done that all day long with gravel being thrown right at the prop and one never hit it. Not very controlled and too random as a test methodology. One thing he should have done was the same "arm" velocity tests on those same objects with a standard prop to see the damage they received as a sort of control. The objects he tested on produce a relatively large contact area at low velocity. Quite different to a small relatively hard and massive object like a stone hitting at running velocities. Fly it for many hours in harsh environments then see how it holds up. I suspect its a urethane rubber, which can chip similarly. Their successful usage on ultralights isn't a fair comparison either. They are generally mounted much higher, and may not fly in comparable environments to see the same kind of abuse. I am not saying it doesn't have any merit, and on a hunch it does, but what we have here in this video is hardly scientific evidence that the cost (unknown) will justify the benefits.
yes, you are right. The stones were hitting it hard during the footdrag and two of them flew through the carbon cage:-(. It is a proof for me so I am happy with the results. But I understand it might not be a proof for you. The next experiment will be one blade regular and the other with the new protective edge. already on it.
If it’s sold at the same price then it’s worth buying. If they sell it for double the price and it last twice as long then I’d say stick with the usual prop as you carnt beat new.
Love all things Scout. Still dreaming of that super light 30 min flight time electric Scout for older pilots and the impossible to tip over Scout nano trike. :-)
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PLEASE normalize your audio. Can't hear voice. turn it up. Music kicks in. Ears bleed. Turn it down. Can't hear voice. Repeat...
That was hard to watch. Those poor Gnomes...... I can't remember the last time I hit a pomegranate. Seriously though, this is great! I love to see new innovations in our sport!
When was the last time you recall hitting a gnome…curious minds want to know 😁
"If you're flying somewhere in Utah or Dubai..." (Judson, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.) Great innovation Miro! Enjoyed the vid too.
…or if your name is Ryan Southwell, this is a prop for you. Will this also be available in regular form (non-variomatic)?
yes,
we are testing a new profile for fixed pitch prop. If it proves better we will implement the protective layer on the new prop, if not then we will do that to the old proven scout prop.
I'm a lawyer for the garden gnome society and my clients tell you to sleep with one eye open!
Cool prop tho 😁
I love your contents & product scout ❤ as a pilot my dream is to own one full set of paramoter gears one day wish me good luck
I'm so excited to be able to buy one!!! When you you think they will be available?
This is such a cool innovation. Props are expensive to replace.
Slightly off topic, but do you think that this coating would work on wind turbine blades? I know that the blade's leading edges are subject to damage from things they strike while operating.
I seem to recall seeing an Italian company using a rubberised material on the leading edge of helicopter rotor blades.
Very nice. Looking forward to it!
Literally no garden gnome was harmed in these experiments. 😁
I like footdrags, I like paramotor adventures…. When can I get one!
Any progress on a toroidal air screw?
Maybe in the future
A word of CAUTION. Making undestructable things (props e.g.) will put a significant area of prop production out of business. Currently the prop manufacturers have a comfortable sustainable profit of producing well-distructible props. Notice: they even silently agreed on _never_ putting a decent film protection on their leading edges! So we have to do it by ourselves and rebalance. And there can be no complains, because the prop crack is _always_ "our" fault. Just because we fly!
So, Miro - be carefull or "they" might kill you! :) I guess they are already a little worried by your varioprop (in hope it will be so expensive and complicated so we cannot afford or set it up). Making a cheap undistructible prop would be an end to their prosperity.
Those poor gnomes)) Awesome prop!
I like this idea !
Cool idea!
great, but the audio!!!
I’ve seen them using very similar technology on aircraft wings, on the leading edge.
What are the weight differences between these different designs?
The variomatic mechanism adds 600 grams but it is located in the center so it is almost neglible. The few mm of rubber do nothing to the weight. The prop itself is not stronger nor reinforced as it is already strong enough. We are now addressing the issue of leading edge hitting small objects that would normally crack the carbon.
Love the vids
Will you also make it for Atom 80?
I cannot get it on our R&D task list this year, we already work on too many projects. But maybe next year we can start that. I am a big fan of that engine.
@@SCOUTaviation thanks that would be amazing and I'd be very help to help test
Why are all the garden gnomes getting axed? What did they do 😂
Need to level your audio... LOUD LOUD music, but can barely hear you speaking.
Beautiful. At the same time, it is the elasticity of prop tape that is the very reason we put prop tape on our propellers. Perhaps a thicker prop tape is a close second equivalence.
Love it. Filled out my application on your website just now.
In case anyone is looking for the name of the song played during the video- "Day I met Her, David Cutter Music" Thank me later.
I prefer a broken propeller to a severed arm.
I prefer a broken propeller to a stone flying at the speed of a bullet, which did not extinguish the energy on the blade, but gained it.
A broken propeller will still leave you with a severed arm, seen it firsthand.
Dang I went to sign up and seen it is only for moster 185 😢. I don't have one yet but want to upgrade to a moster.
Well we need to start somewhere
I like it :) I was also wondering if the use of toroidal propellers has been investigated. The why or why nots .. thx in advance.
Not yet. The first thoughts are: cool but our props spin too fast for that. The Moster spins the prop at 3200 prop which is far from ideal. Aerodynamically ideal would be around 2500 (the Atom 80 got it right). No idea why Vittorazi and others decided for such a small reduction ratio.
@@SCOUTaviation TY for the reply. I like the idea of less noise and more thrust per rotation. Albeit, the bulk may not be worth it.
Where do we buy it
Scoutaviation.com
Those poor garden gnomes
Cool.
What a great video and such a cool innovation. I can't wait to get one!
Yes, caress the prop with love after each abuse.
Great vid 👍
I am still remaining skeptical. Though impressive, hitting a nail an arm speed vs a hard object like a stone or engine nut/screw going through the prop at cruise or take off rpm is whole different can of worms.
Cheers
Hello. Did you saw literally the beginning of the video? :D
Ok, I see now it was that prop. With my ADHD I have to watch multiple times to catch some points. Cheers
@@MatejRoder That's hardly evidence. He could have done that all day long with gravel being thrown right at the prop and one never hit it. Not very controlled and too random as a test methodology. One thing he should have done was the same "arm" velocity tests on those same objects with a standard prop to see the damage they received as a sort of control. The objects he tested on produce a relatively large contact area at low velocity. Quite different to a small relatively hard and massive object like a stone hitting at running velocities. Fly it for many hours in harsh environments then see how it holds up. I suspect its a urethane rubber, which can chip similarly. Their successful usage on ultralights isn't a fair comparison either. They are generally mounted much higher, and may not fly in comparable environments to see the same kind of abuse. I am not saying it doesn't have any merit, and on a hunch it does, but what we have here in this video is hardly scientific evidence that the cost (unknown) will justify the benefits.
yes, you are right.
The stones were hitting it hard during the footdrag and two of them flew through the carbon cage:-(. It is a proof for me so I am happy with the results. But I understand it might not be a proof for you.
The next experiment will be one blade regular and the other with the new protective edge. already on it.
Everything everywhere has a reason.🤔🥂
If it’s sold at the same price then it’s worth buying. If they sell it for double the price and it last twice as long then I’d say stick with the usual prop as you carnt beat new.
It will be almost triple the price. This is the Variomatic prop and the protective leading edge is just a minor feature of it.
Love all things Scout. Still dreaming of that super light 30 min flight time electric Scout for older pilots and the impossible to tip over Scout nano trike. :-)
i hear you
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@@SCOUTaviation The audio went from whisper-quiet to jet-engines at takeoff
*You murderer of Garden Gnome's* The horror is in my memory forever !
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Impressive. Hope it flies as well as it cuts fruit!