WAS MAPLE LEAFS BIGGEST MISTAKE LETTING HYMAN WALK?
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2024
- Since leaving the Maple Leafs to sign with the Oilers back in 2021, Zach Hyman has set a new career-high in goals each year, and currently has 40 in just 56 games this season. With the Leafs paying Tyler Bertuzzi the same $5.5 million salary they passed on with Hyman, was their biggest mistake letting him walk? Gino Reda shared his thoughts.
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I said from the start that letting go of Hyman was stupid. He plays with a lot of heart.
He was the best players in play-off against Montreal. I regretted he did signed in Montreal.
hyman should've been at the all star game
Agree I watched Matthews play the other night and he shoots way to much most all around good players end up with players who pass a lot plus shoot when it is a good time but Vegas shut Toronto down and Matthews took to many bad spot shots instead of passing he has scored lots of goals I just think that the players around him in race are getting lots of assists along with goal scoring it just looked to us he is worried about his scoring more then team player his other mate scores but tries setting a lot of guys up even the fin player excellent players but seem to be on this goal only set of mind lately Marner gets nice goals and assists just a thought on Toronto at Vegas the other night
He walked for about $250K. That’s Dubas.
No that's knowing he was definitely worth that, and that the other guys wouldn't share any of the pie.
@@bradbradbury8561 …Hyman has 40 this year at $5.5 while William Bystander gets $11+ for his 40🤷♂️. There was room to fit Hyman in but Dumas chose Bertuzzi instead “at the same price”. How’s that look now?
@@guyh.4121 Brad Treliving is the one who signed Bertuzzi.
McDavid makes people around him better but you need dedication and skill to play with McDavid. Not Everyone can do it. Credit to Hyman to be a positive work horse and learning each and everyday to be better. Congratulations
Dubas signed Murray, Marleau, and others who didn’t work out. And he traded away Hyman and Kadri. He sieved all the grit out of the roster and kept the softest materials only.
The marleau signing was actually lamerello
Hyman walked to F.A
Kadri kept getting suspended during playoff games for dangerous hits.
Let's be honest, no one could have predicted Hyman being this kind of Goal scorer. However, it was still a mistake letting him go with the other intangibles he brings.
Hell yes, it was! 🤣😂 Hi from Edmonton!
Dubas is an awful executive.
I'm happy for Hyman. I knew it was a bad move to let him go because it wasn't just about his hockey skill and sense, it was about his work and desire.
Letting him go for nothing. A very Leafs move. 🙄
Hyman is a hard working player with great hockey sense. He scores big goals and stands up for his teamates. I don't understand why the Leafs didn't keep him around. He fit their puck possession mandate
Dubas is terrible at his job. Really, really bad.
@@Sidious6460 Dubas wasn’t the worst GM, but Zachary was obviously a mistake, but Jack Campbell judging by his form wasn’t 🤔 tough in today’s Salary Cap nobody gets it perfect! they replaced him with another local boy in Bunting who was much cheaper and 3 years younger and also scored around the same amount of goal per season it’s ok in hindsight but Bunting like Hyman never broke 25 goals in a season, Zach is having a breakout year and could well top 55 goals this year! Helps playing on McDavid line tho 🤔 TB who’s on similar money not playing on AM34S line if he did I’m sure he have more than just 11 goals imho😏
@@waynewoodward674Barrie was also a great signing...Led all D-men in points one year and helped Oilers trade for Ekholm....Ceci (I know, from Pittsburgh but still) has been a very effective former Leaf...
As far as Soupy???.....Yes.....BUT.....He spent time with Skinner. Skinner RAVED about what a wonderful, supportive, goalie partner he was.....And now look at Skinner...Campbell goes down to Bakersfield and a kid Rodrigue says the exact same things about Jack....And now he is on fire witha ,942 Sav%.
Could Jack Campbell be The Goalie Whisperer?.....Is his true magic helping other goalies play better?
So far he is 2 for 2 in Edmonton.
Trust me us Leafs fans already know what we lost when Dubas let him walk.
Leafs worst decision was letting Hyman walk and their best decision was letting Dubas walk
Very simple answer yeah. Tavares wasn’t a centre we needed, and we could have used that money to keep Hyman, some of Dubas’ decisions were great, some were poor. If Hyman was on a line with Matthews and Marner he’d be putting up similar points.
I was huge on hyman and even went as far to say he could have been captain material. Based on his play but also how he handled the media. Especially after Johnny T's first game back in the Island where leafs got dominanted. He was the only one to handle it right. I got trashed so much online I left social media. It was brutal. Now I'm older and simply don't care. We all are entitled to our opinions but the fact that this is even being talked about in 2024 makes me wanna laugh.
To be fair, It's easier to score 40 goals when you have the best play maker of our era as your center, Not saying he's bad or anything, but its the same tandem as Crosby and Chris Kunitz, Kunitz was a good player, but would he have scored all of that without Crosby?
Matthew Knies has Marner to get passes from and Matthews to take all the attention away from him... I don't see him scoring 40 with 25 games to go
Why couldn’t hyman do this with matthews marner nylanader or Tavares feeding him the puck?
Because McDavid is better than them all? If Hyman is on Matthews and Marners line, Matthews is the goal scorer who is getting fed the puck. McDavid is a set up man and is having a not so good year in goal scoring, Hyman is making up for that line.
No question he benefits. But it isn't the only reason - just ask Jesse Puljujarvi!
Lucic didn't.
Throughout history since the first expansion back in the late 60s that the Leafs had traded their best players and ended up winning the Stanley cup with another team past 50+ years, apparently, history shows it and Hyman was one of those best players off the Leafs roster that been traded an eventually can win a Stanley Cup with the Oilers, sounds out of place with the Oilers 😅 but it’s possible IMO
When the Leafs lost in the 1st round to Boston, I said Hyman was the best player on the Leafs and the only guy who was flying out there with energy. Hyman was the hardest working energy guy on the Leafs and that's what they needed most. They gave away what they needed most. Made ZERO SENSE!
It is hard with envy for Leaf Fans to watch the Oiler stars. At least Matthews might score enough - to be about at the 13th overall in goal scored in a season & likely the top goal scorer this century. Would like to see Matthews get better at scoring points - maybe less goals and more points overall thru more per season assists.😀
What can leaf fans say Dubas was a Dubas.But remember when Gretz was in Edmonton and their was a 50 goal scorer on his line.I forget the name but he was traded to Vancouver and never even scored 30 goals again.Anyone playing on Mc Davids line will score 15 to 20 more goals a season because of him.This is not to knock Hyman every Leaf fan liked him it was just Dubas nickel and dimming because he caused the fab 4 payroll.Good on Hyman good luck to him.
But we have also seen Hyman NOT playing with McDavid,...But with Draisaitl, Nuge or Kane and he is just as effective.
@@algrundau9441 Yes but its Apples and Oranges a goal scorer in Toronto could go on another team and not score so much.I Like Hyman he offers more than scoring.I blame Dubas for this and other teams.
@@gregthomson7889To be fair, no GM gets it 100% right all the time...For every Hyman there is a Soupy. For every Draisaitl or McDavid there is a Yakapov or Pulijaarvi..,,,Oilers also passed on drafting DeBrincat despite McD's agent promoting him...and they traded away the pick that would become Barzal to the Islanders....Imagine the Oilers with DeBrincat and Barzal on top of what they already have!!!....Yes, I know. Better not to think about it...Too depressing. ...haha...Cheers.
@@algrundau9441 Yes all true.
Of course TSN makes a video about an Edmonton scorer about Toronto
Even is Hyman wasn't a beast on the score sheet hes such a workhorse he'd easily be worth it.
McJesus brought out the best in Hyman.. Matthews couldn’t do that so it wasn’t a mistake it was a gift.
It’s hard to pick …..so many mistakes ! The Hyman trade was classic bad by the Leafs.
Please only let Bardown videos be in all caps
It wasn't the money, it was the term that Hyman wanted. You can argue whether that was a bad move or not, but the Leafs paying Bertuzzi 5.5 for 1 year and paying Hyman 5.5 for 7 (probably would have been 8 with the Leafs) isn't the same thing
Yeh I mean if Hyman declines drastically with age and hopefully he doesn’t I’m still a big fan of Zachary even tho he doesn’t still play for my Leafs always gets a big homecomingcheer when he returns home, 7 year contracts are hard to shift, TB’s 1 year not do much, Klingberg, Domi, TB ‘cud come off the books easily the contract that’s baffled me and was bonehead imho is Ryan Reeves 3 year one 🙄🤦♂
Oilers also front loaded the contract.....The Leafs had to sign the Big 4, plus Reilly,...plus figure out what they were going to do in goal......Honestly, Hyman was not THAT dominant in Toronto and his game has improved since coming to Edmonton...Kadri was seen has a selfish player and a headache....Now Leaf Nation wants them both back?
Hindsight is also 20/20 vision.
Id say Hyman is McDavids 'Chris Kunitz' if that makes sense..
YES
It sure as Hell was Kyle Dubas' Fault .. among .. Many .. Many Other Mistakes.. Trading away Draft Picks & Prospects for .. " Nothing Players "
... I'm just glad that Dubas is FINALLY Gone .. He NEVER should have been GM in the First place .
I cried when he left , Nazim Kadri ,Tyler Bozak it goes on and on and on ....
Why did you cry? He he die?
Yes, anyone would want a Mully on that one at 5.5 Mill
Nobody knows Hymans true value until
he plays without McDavid or Matthews/Marner
For example when he becomes a FA and asks for 9-10 million the Oilers probably arent going to tender an offer to him.
FALSE! Craig Simpson scored 43 goals for Edmonton 1988.
Didn’t Craig Simpson score 43, I though he played left wing that year and most of his career with oilers.. could be wrong though
Dubas biggest mistake. He should’ve prioritized Hyman who worked great on the top line over bigger flashier names
Been saying that for year - Hyman > Nylander forever...
Letting him walk sucked, Dubas' negotiating skills left no other option unfortunately
The Leafs also threw in 2 bonuses. Because Dubas was all peeved and pouty. he did not want to take a year off Hymans Oilers contract, The Oil got him for an extra year! 7 not 6. The Oilers used the 6th round draft pick they would have given the Leafs to draft Petrov, currently at the AHL level, one step from the NHL. Thanks Toronto! With bone head moves like that no wonder no cups since before the moon landing!
Imagine Leafs PP if Hyman still on the Leafs, 🤔 I miss Zachary always b popular in TO I mean he’s a local guy, I thought Tyler was much younger but only 2 years younger than Zachary, and gets called for just as many penalties in TO as Zachary did 🙄
Dubas made so many mistakes. His asset managment and lack of foresight combined with his lack of knowledge for the game was exposed whe he dumped all those picks and own rentals for what, one round. Letting Hyman go for nothing was one his more stupid moves.
No. Hyman is good, but let's not forget who he plays with...
The Leafs would've just Leafed it up if he was still in Toronto.
Ya and he would play with mattews and marner in Toronto. Probably wouldn’t get as man as hes getting now but he’d be a money in the bank 30 goal scorer
Forget about the 40 goals. Its the 11.5M Leafs are paying Nylander when Hyman is making 5.5M.
Let’s be real, Hyman is a great player but if he plays with anybody in the league other than mcdavid he’s not scoring anywhere near this pace
Yeah they lost him over $500k and a single year on the contract. 😂 classic Dubas
Hyman would have 20 goals right now if it weren't for McDavid.
No it’s because McDavid passes Matthews does not.
Let’s be honest, without McDavid Hyman would have between 10 and 15 goals
Yes it was should have traded #44😊
Is he really a LW
Hyman+Kadri for Tavares
no way.
I’m so glad Leafs were too stupid to pay Zach Hyman.keep up the great work Leafs management.leafs will never win another Stanley cup.dont forget Alexander Steen and on and on and on.(not a Leafs fan).😊😊😊
Hyman isnt a 40 goal scorer. Hes there because of McDavid
Literally this. Everyone saying he would be doing this on the leafs team is wild
❤ Playing with McJesus will turn you from a 20-goal scorer into a 50-goal scorer.
❤ Playing with Matthews will make your 40-goal guy into a 40-assist guy！
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Leafs are so whacked that they wasted money on Tavares, Hainsey, Marleau etc
they wouldnt have been able to afford him.
Who’s fault is that?
They’re paying bertuzzi 5.5M now😂
Hyman isn’t worth 5.5x7 but Nylander is worth 11.25x8😂😂😂 that’s pure comedy in itself
Go oilers
I guess Nylander would be cheaper 11.5M. Seriously. They could have traded Nylander and sign Hyman for half the price Hyman is making as an Oiler.
@@logan9758 damn dude my bad lmfao didn’t realize my opinion was gonna get you that worked up 😂
@@georgebenevides the oilers are just structured differently
You’ve got McDavid at 12.5M reasonable
Draisaitl at 8.5M severely underpaid
Nugent Hopkins at 5.125M great deal (previous contract was 6M)
Hyman at 5.5M excellent
Kane at 5.125M it’s ok
36M for the 5 oilers vs 46.5M for the 4 guys into Toronto, tell me which group of forwards you would rather have
@@logan9758 Your correct. Nugent Hopkins taking a pay cut to stay with the team while players in Toronto are full of greed.
too late
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS. SO STUPID.
Well when Mcdavid is your set up man , your going to have carear highs on his line , i could say the same with marner and Matthews from the leafs
But Marner isn’t putting up assist numbers anywhere close to Mcdavid
@@waggylads has nothing to do with who has more assists it's just in general when you're on the same line as somebody who's a great passer in general and a good setup man
@@waggylads if you think about it how many goals were set up by Mitch Marner to Matthews this year, now put the same perspective from McDavid to hymen
@@warrenguthrie1106 if marner were half the assist man McDavid is then Matthews would’ve hit 70 a couple years ago
@@waggylads this is what I'm trying to say, you're not getting what I'm saying when you have a good player like McDavid or Marner on the same line whether one makes more points than the other you're going to have good season stats it's not all just about McDavid it's not about Matthews it's not about Marner and it's not about Hyman and who's better at this and who's better at that it was about making a point that anybody that's a mid-tier player to be made into a high roller player when they're playing alongside McDavid,
Leafs let go of hyman to get Ryan reeves lmfaoooo 🤣
Dumb Dumb Leafies. Thank you.
Dumb leafs? The man that made this all happen no longer works with the leafs don’t know what you mean man lol
@@JackieBen-wd3nj sorry I didn’t realize Dubas was already in Pittsburgh when he let Hyman walk
Lol
Hyman is a right winger on the Oilers...
Leafs had Zack Hyman but still lost in the first round.
No.
only a leafs fan could find a way to justify letting Zach go. How is this even a question? he is arguably one of the best FA signings in Oilers history. BEST part?, all the "Matthews is better than McDavid" people will say "oh well hes only doing so good cause he plays with McDavid" not realizing the irony behind it all LMAO
He played amazing when he was with the leafs and he was getting better and better every time he hit the ice and the leafs lost him because Dubas is a goof not because anything other than that 😅
Kyle Dubas master class. Trades kadri for kerfoot, let’s Hyman go, let’s Fredrick Andersen go for mrazek.
Toronto fans are clowns, dubas was garbage
The Maple Leafs biggest mistake was when they founded the club in 1917.
Dude you should take ur comments somewhere else and stop talking shit somewhere else go dis ur own team probably Montreal or Boston 😅
@@waynepilotte1371 Cry 😢
I will get right on that I wish we could meet up so I can cry on ur shoulder and first I would deal with ur goof mouth and we can cru together goof