5:00 Yes, HDD's can be fragile. A few months ago, I had contractors working in my home and they got much closer to my Synology DS920+ NAS than I had expected. With all of the vibration from their tools, the NAS fell about 3 feet onto the floor and 3 of the 4 drives spilled out onto the floor. I took the whole mess outside and blew all of the dust out with compressed air, reassembled the drives, and fired it back up. Never skipped a beat; never lost a byte.
When I started in computing, the hard drives were 5.25 in wide as well as over an inch thick, then called full height! When 3.5 in drives came out, they were called half height. When provisioned, they had a bunch of jumpers that had to be set. Configuring multiple drives were a super pain in the ass! Each one had their own IDE Chanel - getting the right one to boot the OS(dos) were trial and error No plug n play then my friend. Keep up your great vids - Joe
I believe using both in a PC is best. Sata SSD for Windows/Linux, M.2 SSD for games & HDD for documents, images, music & videos with external HDD for archival storage.
Depends, if you need under 2TB of storage, SSDs are probably better option. Fast, small primary NVMe drive and bigger SATA drive are really good option and it doesn't cost that much. HDDs only if you need a lot of space and for backups/archives.
Nah definitely not for high end builds or even mid range PC’s of today for consumer use. Hard drives are great as NAS storage media though. With the affordability of modern SSD’s and the fact that the vast majority of people don’t need the absurd amounts of storage to truly justify hard drives. SSD’s are all you need in a PC these days.
I can tell you why HDD is still around. Its because engineers built something incredible back in the day and people today lack the skills, creativity and persistence to take us to the future that is quality that lasts. We seem to build disposable crap because a company wants sales through parts, service and maintenance and consumers judt want performance at a low price. Thats why our cities infrastructure and properties today are still around and standing for over 40+ years.
hdd is gain more rpm. and other than computers, more cctv/surveillance cams are also using hdd and the use of cctv are rising fast. hdd will still around for long time
they tell us the consumers about waste and to recycle but the truth is it all gets burned I work at these places and alot of you would be blown away from the things that get burned up I could go on forever on this but it's pointless
SSD cannot comprehend the amount of storage that is held on a global basis on HDD. It cant catch up unless more factories are built e.g. 10 more. And they still need to catch up with the latest HDD capacity year on year. Seagate claiming 48tb by 2025. HDD is around for a very long time.
having dropped high end CMR drives and nocked them over i can say thier pretty dang tough i would try to be carefull with them but i am still amazed at my new HDD tech, so much so that i use them over my crucial mx500 ssds. mostly due to capacity, thier not quite as fast, even with catching but thier so close and with such great capacity, i decided why not. now i have about 28 TB of space for the price of 2 4tb ssds. so ha. now i have the ultimate gaming vaults. 250-350MB Asecond! transfers! not bad at all soon mach 2 will come out at 500MB transfers i think HDD will exist for a long time as thier rather reliable and if one dies easier to replace. and no one would steal it. wile they would definetly steal my ssds.
the hard drives will be around until most or all hospitals all the way to even the government wherever you live use hard drives even knowing ssd's are faster but I think as of now we are the testers when ssd's get better then we will see the end of hard drives as of now hard drives are better
Hi. Thank you for this video and your analysis. There is some earlier history for hard drive before the '70s. Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#History traces hard drive origins back to the IBM RAMAC (3.5million 6-bit bytes) in 1954 -- 56 platters and one set of heads that moved both vertically (to get to a platter) and horizontally (to get to a location on that platter). More typical hard drives started in 1961 with the IBM 1301 (about 28Mb), but it was a removable disk. IBM introduced the first non-removal disk in 1975 - The 3350. Probably the most direct ancestor to what we think of hard drives today was the Seagate (formerly Shugart) ST-506 5Mb drive introduced in 1980.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Technology
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Price per GB. A 4tb SSD costs 4x more compared to a HDD of the same size.
5:00 Yes, HDD's can be fragile. A few months ago, I had contractors working in my home and they got much closer to my Synology DS920+ NAS than I had expected. With all of the vibration from their tools, the NAS fell about 3 feet onto the floor and 3 of the 4 drives spilled out onto the floor. I took the whole mess outside and blew all of the dust out with compressed air, reassembled the drives, and fired it back up. Never skipped a beat; never lost a byte.
ive had similar drops some of these newer cmr drives are built like a tank.
When I started in computing, the hard drives were 5.25 in wide as well as over an inch thick, then called full height! When 3.5 in drives came out, they were called half height. When provisioned, they had a bunch of jumpers that had to be set. Configuring multiple drives were a super pain in the ass! Each one had their own IDE Chanel - getting the right one to boot the OS(dos) were trial and error No plug n play then my friend. Keep up your great vids - Joe
Ahh, the "good" old days. We sold a 100MB drive for $7000! Prices have fallen a bit since then.
So that’s why my pc cases have 5.25 bays! Never knew hard drives were that big before, very interesting
I believe using both in a PC is best. Sata SSD for Windows/Linux, M.2 SSD for games & HDD for documents, images, music & videos with external HDD for archival storage.
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Depends, if you need under 2TB of storage, SSDs are probably better option. Fast, small primary NVMe drive and bigger SATA drive are really good option and it doesn't cost that much.
HDDs only if you need a lot of space and for backups/archives.
Nah definitely not for high end builds or even mid range PC’s of today for consumer use. Hard drives are great as NAS storage media though. With the affordability of modern SSD’s and the fact that the vast majority of people don’t need the absurd amounts of storage to truly justify hard drives. SSD’s are all you need in a PC these days.
SSDs still cannot cope well with repeated write cycles, so they are still unsuitable for some applications.
I can tell you why HDD is still around. Its because engineers built something incredible back in the day and people today lack the skills, creativity and persistence to take us to the future that is quality that lasts.
We seem to build disposable crap because a company wants sales through parts, service and maintenance and consumers judt want performance at a low price.
Thats why our cities infrastructure and properties today are still around and standing for over 40+ years.
Just saw seagate 16tb for $160 might not be the best in quality, but. 16tb of data for redundancy backup for $160 is a steal
hdd is gain more rpm. and other than computers, more cctv/surveillance cams are also using hdd and the use of cctv are rising fast. hdd will still around for long time
Price to storage ratio.
I remember in the early 1990s buying a 400Mb (Not Gb) hard drive for $440 (AUD) to put in my PC. That's $1.10 a megabyte!
Maybe in 30 more years we'll laugh about our 4 terabyte hard drives.
they tell us the consumers about waste and to recycle but the truth is it all gets burned I work at these places and alot of you would be blown away from the things that get burned up I could go on forever on this but it's pointless
Cause they cheap. And the speeds match perfectly with my 2.5G NAS.
SSD cannot comprehend the amount of storage that is held on a global basis on HDD. It cant catch up unless more factories are built e.g. 10 more. And they still need to catch up with the latest HDD capacity year on year. Seagate claiming 48tb by 2025. HDD is around for a very long time.
having dropped high end CMR drives and nocked them over i can say thier pretty dang tough i would try to be carefull with them but i am still amazed at my new HDD tech, so much so that i use them over my crucial mx500 ssds. mostly due to capacity, thier not quite as fast, even with catching but thier so close and with such great capacity, i decided why not. now i have about 28 TB of space for the price of 2 4tb ssds. so ha. now i have the ultimate gaming vaults. 250-350MB Asecond! transfers! not bad at all soon mach 2 will come out at 500MB transfers i think HDD will exist for a long time as thier rather reliable and if one dies easier to replace. and no one would steal it. wile they would definetly steal my ssds.
Simple... It's affordable and still relevant.
i use mine for gaming. planning on store
MI when they become irrelivant and using SSD as a cache.
the hard drives will be around until most or all hospitals all the way to even the government wherever you live use hard drives even knowing ssd's are faster but I think as of now we are the testers when ssd's get better then we will see the end of hard drives as of now hard drives are better
Thank you
They are both fragile and durable
Hi. Thank you for this video and your analysis. There is some earlier history for hard drive before the '70s. Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_drive#History traces hard drive origins back to the IBM RAMAC (3.5million 6-bit bytes) in 1954 -- 56 platters and one set of heads that moved both vertically (to get to a platter) and horizontally (to get to a location on that platter). More typical hard drives started in 1961 with the IBM 1301 (about 28Mb), but it was a removable disk. IBM introduced the first non-removal disk in 1975 - The 3350. Probably the most direct ancestor to what we think of hard drives today was the Seagate (formerly Shugart) ST-506 5Mb drive introduced in 1980.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Technology
ruclips.net/video/irPw9oyAju8/видео.html @8:03 shows a RAMAC in action. We've come a long way. (Imagine this in a NAS. :D)