Great demo, Ned. If it's not too much trouble, could you in the future also show static tests of one star after it dries? I think it would be interesting to see the results, even though ignition differs much from the process inside the shell. Thanks.
Great video! Normal people have no respect for how much work goes into a shell like this. Hours of assembly and testing and perfecting... all to be burned up in a few seconds. Part of why I stick to small fireworks projects.
Wow, that is amazing! I've always wanted to know how fireworks are made. Thanks NeD, and thanks to RUclips 😄. Also it would be great to culminate your vid with a quick clip of this shell bursting in the sky 😃💥💥💥
ned thanks very much again my friend is really enjoying your videos as do I I shared them to him we like the safety rules you mentioned in your videos and I'm fixin to make a end cap jig for canister shells and upgrading safety equipment to prevent misfiring the shells using blackmatch priming you mentioned😎👍👍🎆🎇
Great work as always - but would it be asking too much to attach a short clip of the actual firing display? I really feel it'a important to SEE results after watching the entire video...
Hey Ned long time no see! Got my orange book & checking out your videos that i just discovered exist! Joining fireworking tonight possibly! Great channel & hope you do great at the convention buddy!
Good Day Mr Gorski, I am making a batch of Tiger Tail stars for 3" shell but wondering if I should use my 5/16 plate or 3/8 plate? Will small star might brake with the burst charge? Thank you
Your stars are really as beautiful as professional stars. Your press is great. Is it expensive? Because i really hesitate for many montv to buy one for whistle rockets. About the video... i have to confess that it is so disapoiting for me to don"t see the shell shooted :-)
Yep, they are pretty expensive, about $2,000+ USD. And prices keep going up it seems. But you can use a cheaper H-Frame shop press with a bottle Jack , albeit it takes a little longer. But can be had for $250 or less. Or a modified arbor press.
It's a cryin Shame I'm so far away, 'cause I'd love to bring some old formulation tweeks & come to play with some of ur toyz Bro! Your pump takes A WHOLE LOT LESS Effort than mine .
Hey Ned, been a while since we talked but I just had a thought about pressed stars. Not that dia but smaller, say 6 - 8mm square, or there abouts... I thought a manual pill press may be suitable??? What do u think????
@@nedgorski I only just thought about it whilst sitting back nursing broken ribs!!! So watched this funny chinese guy demo one, using baby formula I think and man it was pressing them like rock if you wanted to, at an average rate of about 1 every 5 seconds. I'm sure with practice you'd up that rate. There was more exotic models, automatic that ran at about 1 per second or faster but 800 bucks..... nah!!!!
I forgot, what I thought was cool was u could change the dies in a second, and dramatically vary the dimensions/shapes of the stars. I thought that was an idea......
Working without a wrist grounding strap and being in the room during pressing would be too much for me. But these guys are pros and know their stuff. It's as much art as science.
How do you keep your ram pressed like that after you let go of the down button? Mine raises back up slightly once I let go of the button so it doesn’t keep the pressure on the star plate.
@@E85_STI Yes it is, but I think mine is plumbed a bit differently. I think he switches the valving a bit somehow on more recent models. Check with him.
I like to apply 1500-2000 pounds per square inch of pressure on the composition, and I use both hardened aluminum, and delrin pins in my star plates. Good luck.
@@nedgorski what maximum pressure can be used in aluminum? and in delrin? which material is better or just more pressure resistant? I'm from Poland :)
@@irokromkrom6534 I don't know, K. I've never tested that. I'd bet that at a maximum pressure, the aluminum is more resistant to it, but I don't press stars at such high pressures.
What would a star look like if you made one with two halves of a different colour? Would you be able to see it clearly or would it be burning/moving so quick it would look like a mix of the two?
If only Ned sir appoints me as his apprentice...Dang! We Indians don't have the privilege of making these large shells at home with freedom. I sometimes feel so f'd up because of that.
Have fun waiting. Or you cpuld jpin his website like most of us have which not only supports the great and educational content he supplies but it gives you an opportunity to communicate with fellow pyrotechnicians instead of only ever asking for compositions.
I love your tutorials but I can't help but wish that you'd show the launch & detonation of the comp you're demonstrating at the end of each particular video. It just seems so, incomplete. After all that IS the entirety of the comp's purpose & the ultimate goal of you assembling said comp & shell at the end of the day, is it not? Regardless, great channel brother & thank you for sharing your talents.
Most of the time I do show the results in the videos. If the results are included in a later video, I note that in the notes for the build video. This shell won't be fired until the PGI convention in August, at which time I do hope to have vid of the shells in action. Mostly, in this vid, I wanted to show the process of making the stars, so "the stars" are actually the finished product. Stay tuned, though.
With the 10-15 second total burn time, shooting out of a star gun doesn't provide enough flight time to display the whole willow diadem effect, and color change.
ned gorski I am not sure but maybe you could just add much more lift than you would fireing a normal comet. Great video anyway, thank you very much for all the time you put into teaching us. Greets from Berlin
Great demo, Ned. If it's not too much trouble, could you in the future also show static tests of one star after it dries? I think it would be interesting to see the results, even though ignition differs much from the process inside the shell. Thanks.
Great video! Normal people have no respect for how much work goes into a shell like this. Hours of assembly and testing and perfecting... all to be burned up in a few seconds. Part of why I stick to small fireworks projects.
Wow, that is amazing! I've always wanted to know how fireworks are made. Thanks NeD, and thanks to RUclips 😄.
Also it would be great to culminate your vid with a quick clip of this shell bursting in the sky 😃💥💥💥
ned thanks very much again my friend is really enjoying your videos as do I I shared them to him we like the safety rules you mentioned in your videos and I'm fixin to make a end cap jig for canister shells and upgrading safety equipment to prevent misfiring the shells using blackmatch priming you mentioned😎👍👍🎆🎇
Great work as always - but would it be asking too much to attach a short clip of the actual firing display? I really feel it'a important to SEE results after watching the entire video...
Hey Ned long time no see! Got my orange book & checking out your videos that i just discovered exist! Joining fireworking tonight possibly!
Great channel & hope you do great at the convention buddy!
Good to see ya, Josh. Don't be a stranger.
Just a super work👍
Another great Tutorial!
Thank you very much.
My pleasure. This is a process I really like.
Good Day Mr Gorski, I am making a batch of Tiger Tail stars for 3" shell but wondering if I should use my 5/16 plate or 3/8 plate? Will small star might brake with the burst charge? Thank you
That's a medium burn-speed star, and a small shell. I'd probably lean toward the 3/8" stars, which will get larger with priming. Good luck, Chris.
Great setup. You are a pro...I would be terrified to be in the same room during pressing.
250 stars, 16 at a time, at 10 minutes per press... you've got nearly 3 hours worth of pressing per ball? Thanks for sharing the process
We sure don't do this to save time or money. It's an art and a passion.
This is nice, but I have a question, what is the name of the program you used for the recipe?
Your stars are really as beautiful as professional stars. Your press is great. Is it expensive? Because i really hesitate for many montv to buy one for whistle rockets.
About the video... i have to confess that it is so disapoiting for me to don"t see the shell shooted :-)
Yep, they are pretty expensive, about $2,000+ USD. And prices keep going up it seems.
But you can use a cheaper H-Frame shop press with a bottle Jack , albeit it takes a little longer. But can be had for $250 or less.
Or a modified arbor press.
It's a cryin Shame I'm so far away, 'cause I'd love to bring some old formulation tweeks & come to play with some of ur toyz Bro! Your pump takes A WHOLE LOT LESS Effort than mine .
Hey Ned, been a while since we talked but I just had a thought about pressed stars. Not that dia but smaller, say 6 - 8mm square, or there abouts... I thought a manual pill press may be suitable??? What do u think????
I have no experience with such devices, but have heard that automated pill presses have been use to make small stars in some operations.
@@nedgorski I only just thought about it whilst sitting back nursing broken ribs!!! So watched this funny chinese guy demo one, using baby formula I think and man it was pressing them like rock if you wanted to, at an average rate of about 1 every 5 seconds. I'm sure with practice you'd up that rate. There was more exotic models, automatic that ran at about 1 per second or faster but 800 bucks..... nah!!!!
I forgot, what I thought was cool was u could change the dies in a second, and dramatically vary the dimensions/shapes of the stars. I thought that was an idea......
He said "tit" 😅 Nice work ned, as always.
But what will it do? Did not make the film of the result.
Man that looks so freaking dangerous.. how do u keep static from being an issue?? I'd be so freaked out by doing that
Working without a wrist grounding strap and being in the room during pressing would be too much for me. But these guys are pros and know their stuff. It's as much art as science.
Great channel. Have been loving the vids. Have you ever tried making one of those ghost shells?
I have not. That's a very complex process of star rolling and construction. Really something.
How do you keep your ram pressed like that after you let go of the down button? Mine raises back up slightly once I let go of the button so it doesn’t keep the pressure on the star plate.
Mine keeps the pressure applied. It probably depends on how the valve controls on the hydraulic pump operate.
@@nedgorski oh ok I know Caleb is busy so Ill wait for a response. Is that his press in your video?
@@E85_STI Yes it is, but I think mine is plumbed a bit differently. I think he switches the valving a bit somehow on more recent models. Check with him.
great videos :) I am asking for advice. What pins are the best in brass, aluminum or DELRIN platestars? and what pressure to use? how many tons?
I like to apply 1500-2000 pounds per square inch of pressure on the composition, and I use both hardened aluminum, and delrin pins in my star plates. Good luck.
@@nedgorski thanks for the information and do you use the same press force on aluminum and delrin?
@@irokromkrom6534 Yes, I do. The actual pressure I use is dependent on the type of comp I'm pressing.
@@nedgorski what maximum pressure can be used in aluminum? and in delrin? which material is better or just more pressure resistant? I'm from Poland :)
@@irokromkrom6534 I don't know, K. I've never tested that. I'd bet that at a maximum pressure, the aluminum is more resistant to it, but I don't press stars at such high pressures.
Ned, you do no roughing or scoring of the prime comp surface after pressing?
No, that star prime takes and holds fire easily, especially with the sharp corners from the pressing.
What would a star look like if you made one with two halves of a different colour? Would you be able to see it clearly or would it be burning/moving so quick it would look like a mix of the two?
That "married comet" can be very nice, Ed. A tailed comet with a color head. We just had that project in Fireworking 301 on Fireworking.com
Thanks, I'll check it out
If only Ned sir appoints me as his apprentice...Dang! We Indians don't have the privilege of making these large shells at home with freedom. I sometimes feel so f'd up because of that.
Oh man, I made it all the way to the end and you never lit it off?
Sad...
from what I understand mechanic pressure will detonate the munition/fireworks compound, how can we avoid this, thanks in advance..
Simple pressure of the sort we apply to these compositions won't set it off.
Ned! Is there any way I could purchase some of these?!? I love what you do and would go get some! I live in a legal state let me know
No, these are just for personal use.
Hey guys i have a question. Can i do quickmatch with a visco fuse? Thanks!
No, the fire won't transfer down the pipe quickly. You need blackmatch in the quickmatch pipe.
where the video of demo of this shell ignite and blow on sky?
Please read the description of the video, above notes.
+ned gorski 😅😭august too long to see
Patience, Grasshopper... Nothing good in fireworks making happens quickly...
Dear its a request,
Please Tell me how to make cold fountain firework of 3m30s.
I'm waiting for your reply.
Have fun waiting. Or you cpuld jpin his website like most of us have which not only supports the great and educational content he supplies but it gives you an opportunity to communicate with fellow pyrotechnicians instead of only ever asking for compositions.
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I love your tutorials but I can't help but wish that you'd show the launch & detonation of the comp you're demonstrating at the end of each particular video. It just seems so, incomplete. After all that IS the entirety of the comp's purpose & the ultimate goal of you assembling said comp & shell at the end of the day, is it not? Regardless, great channel brother & thank you for sharing your talents.
Most of the time I do show the results in the videos. If the results are included in a later video, I note that in the notes for the build video. This shell won't be fired until the PGI convention in August, at which time I do hope to have vid of the shells in action. Mostly, in this vid, I wanted to show the process of making the stars, so "the stars" are actually the finished product. Stay tuned, though.
ned gorski Maybe you could just shoot one Star out of a stargun or a mortar to demonstrate the ffect the finished product produces.
With the 10-15 second total burn time, shooting out of a star gun doesn't provide enough flight time to display the whole willow diadem effect, and color change.
ned gorski I am not sure but maybe you could just add much more lift than you would fireing a normal comet.
Great video anyway, thank you very much for all the time you put into teaching us.
Greets from Berlin
ruclips.net/video/lF6NOEVt0F4/видео.htmlsi=YOS7WbD2QFV62-if pretty sure this is the video with the shell made from these stars.