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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • I'm going to attempt to restore one of the 7" Motorola sets I won in an auction recently.
    Here is a description of the modification to suppress the retrace lines. antiqueradios.c...

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  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад +3

    I spent about 8 hours working on the set. Yes, I do a lot of retakes and probably toss about 2/3 of all the video I shoot. I've mentioned my background a few times in various videos. Basically, I have a degree in electrical engineering but make a living as a programmer. I like to fool around with vintage electronics both because of the engineering angle but also I like the cabinet designs.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад +3

    Thanks. Yeah not so many restorers around, but there is a need. Even though I have way too many of my own projects, I've agreed to restore some cool sets for other guys. You'll be seeing one of them soon.

  • @WB8MHE
    @WB8MHE 11 лет назад

    As usual, FINE JOB!!!. As to the poor soldering of connections, I'm 82 y/o, & well remember the tools we had available in the late '40s & early "50s. We had 1/2" diameter roofing soldering irons & 100 watt soldering guns, with solid #14 copper wire for a heating element, if we were lucky. We did the best we could, but big tools were a limiting factor. My first soldering pencil in '47 was my childhood wood burning pencil from Gilbert Toy MFG. Worked great.
    Keep up the good work.
    Dick

  • @AntiqueRadioandTV
    @AntiqueRadioandTV 11 лет назад +1

    Hey Bob:
    I loved that video! It's going to be great to see you do an alignment & try out some mods in the next video.
    Yes, I'm slowly getting there with mine as well when I have the time to work on it that is. It's coming out great.
    Isn't that PR57 terrific! It's funny. I've got the same chassis, DVM, & PR57 right in front of me. Looks like I'm there at your place!
    I love the outtakes at the end! Oh, yeah... Been there, done that!!!

  • @albertmorris4889
    @albertmorris4889 11 лет назад

    Hi Bob. I suspect your mystery clipped caps was a troubleshooting step. At one time it was common practice that a "suspect" component lead was cut to test then if good a tack solder repair of the lead.was done. Quick and DIRTY method but it did work (at least long enough to get it off the bench). Good job as usual.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I added a link to the description. It only works for some electrostatic sets.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад +1

    Oh yeah. I remember watching some of those videos a couple years ago and had forgotten.

  • @OlegKostoglatov
    @OlegKostoglatov 11 лет назад

    There is an outfit called Steele Rubber products that specializes in reproducing rubber parts like weatherstripping and tailight gaskets for cars. Supposedly they can make parts to order so it may be worth asking them about the Motorola VT71 gaskets.

  • @OldRadioAl
    @OldRadioAl 11 лет назад

    I'm jealous of the new Sencore. That's one nice and handy unit. Another good, informative video.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад +1

    HI. Wow, I can only imagine how difficult it must have been with a huge iron or gun. I had enough trouble with my little Weller iron!

  • @foxrivers
    @foxrivers 11 лет назад

    Someday I'll finish my VT-71. I've had it for 10 years and recently replaced some caps and built one of those capacitor ballasts noted on VK. Great audio but no raster so I put it away for now. Once I move into my condo and get a workbench set up I may tackle it again.

  • @AntonBabiy
    @AntonBabiy 11 лет назад

    Hey Bob,
    it would be cool to see the retrace, and dc restoration circuits done with some re-stuffed caps cause the old ones look REAL COOL :D

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Yep, that was meant as a little blooper bonus for anyone that made it to the end :)

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Electrolytics capacitors age from just sitting around so they all need to be reformed to some extent if they have been used for a long time. How well they reform depends on the condition of the electrolyte which breaks down and dries out over time.

  • @lookoutleo
    @lookoutleo 7 лет назад

    you realy are a proper tv repair man, i learned on transistor tvs in the 80's but mostly forgotten now , never did much on valve tvs, interesting video

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  7 лет назад

      Thanks! This was fun project. I have a bunch more of these Motorola sets to get to. Maybe I'll set up a little assembly line :)

    • @lookoutleo
      @lookoutleo 7 лет назад

      i'll watch your videos as i fancy getting an old valve tv and repairing it. your videos will be invaluable :) can i ask you questions if i find one?

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  7 лет назад

      I think you'll be better off joining a vintage TV forum like the 'Antique Radio Forum' and asking your questions there. Together the forum members have far more experience than I.

  • @MrKevinp0
    @MrKevinp0 11 лет назад

    Very nicely done as always! Love the "bloopers" at the end. Maybe when you release your DVD collection of your greatest restorations, you can include more bloopers in your special features section. LOL Just kidding of course! I, like so many of us, are appreciative that you share your hobby with all of us, and eagerly anticipate your next video! Have a great day! :)

    • @thomashowe855
      @thomashowe855 2 года назад +1

      I’d love to see that happen, though.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Yes, there's a piece above the ballast tube to protect the cabinet. All the Motorola 7" and 8" sets have it.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад +1

    I've never noticed so I'd have to say no. How much does the image shift in your CRT clock ?

  • @GeoN0JRJ
    @GeoN0JRJ 11 лет назад

    Another great video. I have been working on my Motorola little by little as work allows. This will really help! I would really like to see the MODS and Ballast testing if you get a chance Bob. I learn more every time I watch one of your videos.

  • @PaulHigginbothamSr
    @PaulHigginbothamSr 4 года назад

    Glassinger Ron always just lays the lead against the side with no wrapping and since he uses such a massive soldering iron with lots of practice he has a collection that works just fine that I would not mind owning a unit out of.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I crunched the numbers and came up with a couple designs. I'll demonstrate them in the next video.

  • @NBH45304
    @NBH45304 11 лет назад

    Great job once again. Is that a bias cell above the high voltage capacitors ? I have an old Emerson radio the has a L49 ballast tube in it. I have never messed with it to see if it's any good. LOL at the end so disgusted you had to stop the camera !

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Thanks. It's a transformer used in the horizontal oscillator.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. You'll see all that stuff in the next video :)

  • @ct92404
    @ct92404 5 лет назад

    I'm considering buying a small antique tv I found online, and I think it's this model in your video. I have some experience fixing vacuum tube radios, and a couple of years ago I also restored a 1952 Olympic tv. It was the first time I had ever fixed a tv, but it's still working great! I know this video is several years old now, can you think of any other advice if I do decide to get that tv I saw?

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  5 лет назад

      Watch some of my other videos on this model. Also join the Antique Radio Forum and post about your project in the Television area. Also read some of the VT71 restoration project threads there and on Videokarma. Also check out Phil Nelson's excellent website. www.antiqueradio.org/motvt73.htm

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I think you might be confusing the diagonal retrace lines with the dots and dashes at the top of the screen used for closed caption info.

  • @mjdmtlakes
    @mjdmtlakes 11 лет назад

    Thanks for making such a long and in-depth video. I am curious, for almost an hour of video, how much real time elapsed? Also, enjoyed the failed takes and wonder if those kind of retakes are normal in making your videos or if you are able to assemble the final video from one take?
    Please consider doing a biographical video. I would love to know more of how you got started with this hobby and how you live with all of these antique sets in your daily life.

  • @PaulHigginbothamSr
    @PaulHigginbothamSr 4 года назад +1

    I can see a guy restoring this set in 75 years. He complains bitterly that he has to vaporize the solder off the terminals because the laser heating doesn't see into the cap well enough to read its internals. And that completely missing cap? The set probably worked fine back in the day and is now jittery even with it. That probably has to do with the missing em covers though.

    • @thomashowe855
      @thomashowe855 2 года назад

      “Oh no, it appears my holorepair station has broken down”

  • @eivindamundsen7090
    @eivindamundsen7090 5 лет назад

    Tanks for a great video. Btw Where do you buy the 6KV capacittor ? Why haven't I seen your channel/videos before now ?

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  5 лет назад

      You're welcome. Allied Electronics, Mouser and Just Radios have them

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I didn't posses a sweep generator back when I restored my other VT71s.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Wow, I didn't think the earth's magnetic field would affect it anywhere near that much. I bet a mu metal shield would help a lot.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I love it and should have gotten one a long time ago instead of the iso-tap and cheap variac.

  • @td3993
    @td3993 3 года назад

    Can't taste the smell of a selenium rectifier failure through RUclips.

  • @laurdy
    @laurdy 11 лет назад

    the user brickintheyard has some good tutorials on mould making using silicone and other materials

  • @ct92404
    @ct92404 5 лет назад

    Hi, I ended up buying one of these same model tvs, and I'm hoping you might be able to help with something! (I'm sorry this is a long comment). My tv has a TS-4H chassis. I replaced the main electrolytic capacitors (C1-C3, in the cans). I was using the "Sam's Photofacts" schematics I found online. It was really confusing because there had apparently been some changes
    evisions that didn't match up with the diagrams. But I found a Rider's diagram and I was slowly able to make sense of things by comparing the two. Last night, I tried to power up the tv for a quick test. The vacuum tubes glowed and the ballast tube got warm and seemed to be working. But after a few seconds, I saw smoke and I realized resistor R87 had burned up. It's connected on pins 8 and 6 of tube V14, which is the 25L6GT tube next to the high voltage box. (It looks they are using pin 6 as a tie point). The problem is I have no idea what would have caused the resistor to burn. That was the only thing that burned, I didn't see any other burned resistors or other damaged parts. The area I worked on seemed to be okay - the electrolytic caps and rectifiers didn't smoke or do anything else strange. So at least I THINK I connected the capacitors on right! But I'm stuck now. Do you have any suggestions on what might have caused the resistor to burn? There are a couple of wax capacitors connected to V14, and I think a high voltage one does too. Is it possible one of the caps could be bad and is causing a short?
    I'm really hoping you can help since you're the only person I've seen who actually has experience working on this tv. I posted a question on the Antique Radio Forum, but I don't think that many people there are familiar with this particular tv.

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  5 лет назад

      Hi. Yes, I've seen your posts on ARF. I'll reply when I get a chance. Forget about the Sams - it's for the TS-4J revision.

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 5 лет назад

      @@bandersentv Thanks! I saw your reply in that thread. If you have time, I had a couple of other questions, which I posted there.

  • @TechneMoira
    @TechneMoira 11 лет назад

    Hey Bob. I'd like to ask if you could make a drawing of that flyback line suppressing circuit and where to hook it up (maybe mentioning how to calculate the parts specs ?). I suppose it's a fairly universal circuit, meaning, it could be inserted into basically any tv set? Thanks a lot. Vincent

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I know, not much I can do about it now :(

  • @Mikek2bn
    @Mikek2bn 9 лет назад

    Bob what value power resistor are you using to replace the 7jp4 filament???

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  9 лет назад

      Michael Tannenbaum It's a 6.3 volt filament with 0.6 amps so applying ohms law gives 10 ohms at about 3.6 watts. I suggest using a 5 watt or bigger.

  • @laurdy
    @laurdy 11 лет назад

    you might be able to mould some new crt masks from a good old one using silicone rubber

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    Maybe. I've never work with anything like that before so I'd have to do some research.

  • @bandersentv
    @bandersentv  11 лет назад

    I would if it paid anywhere near as well.

  • @gbowne1
    @gbowne1 11 лет назад

    never done an alignment on a VT71? gee.. i figured by now you would have.

  • @antiquetaperecorderlovermu9699

    Super super super 😮😮😮😮

  • @MrMac5150
    @MrMac5150 11 лет назад

    can all caps even newer one be reformed.

  • @chairuser4
    @chairuser4 11 лет назад +1

    so mad you cant get the surround anymore,could you learn to make one,like expanding spray foam an a form,must be a way.

  • @Tysman909
    @Tysman909 3 года назад

    How would I build those rectifiers for my tuner they have like 3 of them. I can email you the schematic or look it up its a Harman Kardon T250 Ode

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  3 года назад

      You mean selenium rectifiers? Replace them with silicon diodes. I use 1N5408s

    • @Tysman909
      @Tysman909 3 года назад

      @@bandersentv ok will 1n4007 work with dropping resistors and how would I wire them up? I can email a schematic or I can find a link to schematic for you

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  3 года назад

      I don't bother adding dropping resistors. Some do some don't. I don't think it makes much difference. If you do use them they simply go in series with the diode. Wire the diodes in the same way as the selenium. You're just replacing one diode type with another.

    • @bandersentv
      @bandersentv  3 года назад

      BTW I'm not trying to be difficult. I want you to learn. Do some research. Why would you add a dropping resistor ? What's the difference between selenium and silicon ?

    • @Tysman909
      @Tysman909 3 года назад

      @@bandersentv thanks I do wanna learn just don't wanna wire them up wrong cause there's 4 of them in the tuner. The matching amp a technician already replaced the rectifier with 4 modern diodes and large 3 watt resistor

  • @larryparrish4738
    @larryparrish4738 7 лет назад

    I just got a 1949 7vt5 and a similar 9vt5 am going for it help

  • @MrMac5150
    @MrMac5150 11 лет назад

    The fan air is coming right into your mic.

  • @mariaclaraganam4946
    @mariaclaraganam4946 7 лет назад

    Estou precisando fazer um trabalho sobre essa tá alguém sabe me dizer tamanho e medidas dela

  • @AntonBabiy
    @AntonBabiy 11 лет назад

    tape some foam onto the mic. Just saying for another vid. Cancels out most of the air noise :)

  • @cny02253
    @cny02253 11 лет назад

    Seems like the most unpleasant part of the restoration process was explaining the most unpleasant part of the restoration process. lol!

  • @mattswestone20
    @mattswestone20 11 лет назад

    does this set contain asbestos?

    • @entity9742
      @entity9742 4 года назад

      Some sets had capacitors or protective tube coverings made from asbestos

  • @renatoscutube
    @renatoscutube 11 лет назад

    That was so, so unpleasant you couldn't even talk about ... lol