Just about to rebuild 3 of these arch’s. I took the render off the Georgian building we own, only to discover that they had removed the arches in 70s and built concrete lintels with stretcher bond over all 3 of them after the building had cracked. At 67, having passed my City & Guilds in 1973, I am about to work with 35 year old bricklayer to restore what they originally built in the 1780s. Work, it’s actually a pleasure. Super video that refreshed all my sleeping knowledge. Well done.
Hi Rob another great job , in Dublin they use to plaster patent reveals around the bottom of the arch to hide the bottom cuts as each voussior has 3 cuts . Cheers Rob top class work again
Takes me back to my brick cutting days, cut loads of these. We would draw half the arch with key brick then cut into templates and off you go. Love all your uploads.
Brilliant video. I've been waiting for this video for a long time. I'd love to see a video on how to apply this drawing on site and how to use it for marking up the bricks for the arch. Your an inspiration Rob. Thank you. 👍
The cuts can be made easy by laying uncut brick on the lental with a lime sand mix (no portland) then snap a chalk line top and bottom then number them and make your cuts. The lime, sand, water mix will come right off the bricks with a shake and you save a lot of time figuring and measuring ect.
I have a flat arch, axed chambered arch to start to rebuild on the 15th of Dec but as all bricks damaged as there was a porch there which I have removed as the flashing for porch has been cut/recessed into brickwork for arch and not mortar joint above I am going to recut all brick including skewbacks but looking forward to it as never done one only ever drew one out from watching your arch series so rewatching today to rejog memory is it possible to send/email a picture on completion so you can have a laugh over Christmas
Excellent, I hope these help.. 3 more to upload. But having so much trouble uploading and the resolution gets weaker after the upload...the original recordings are good HD
Enjoy your 3rd year all you can buddy, its a real test of patience and perseverance. in the real world you dont get to do much real arch work, its all about going around in squares 🤨
Hi Rob… I was taught in college back in 84-87 that the rise per linear meter was 3mm on Georgian arches is there a reason why you do 10mm because over a 3m arch 30mm seems excessive but to be honest it probably would look fine? I look at you as probably the finest bricklayer in the country and I’m a very knowledgeable and neat bricklayer it makes you laugh the youngsters of today there all about ££ signs and who’s the fastest and a lot of them would run a mile from anything intricate I’ve seen it 😂
It is a common arch in the UK but not typical, it is more to do with the period in history it was used, "The Georgian Period." 1714-1830. This period is related to what is know as the Renaissance architecture in Europe. The Georgian arch was used before and after these dated but this was when it was most common. I agree with you about how it looks.
Hi Rob loving these arch tutorials... Cant wait to get my trowel mucky with these challenges ... Quick question could you go into more detail as to why if you don't have a key brick you can't bond the arch? Thanks for the videos
If you don't have a key brick, ie; you have a key joint, that means you have an even number of bricks in the arch. If that is the case you and you bond it, let's say you start with a stretcher on the right hand side, your last brick would be two headers on the left hand side. It is physically possible but it lacks the symmetry so is considered a no, no.
@@andrewp3713 Sorry Andrew, this is hard to explain. If you started from the centre with a key joint you would end up with a header on one skew back and a stretcher on the other skew back. If you start with a key brick in the centre, you will always have the same on either skew back as is shown in the video.
@@robsonger1 I spoke to an old trowel once about tight beds and joints . He said they used to 'mill' the compo , it was the only way to get it fine , and smooth enough to use .
Yes, all the bricks in a Georgian arch are cut from 'rubbers'. These are oversize bricks that are cut and rubbed on a stone to get their shape. (Video to follow)
Just about to rebuild 3 of these arch’s. I took the render off the Georgian building we own, only to discover that they had removed the arches in 70s and built concrete lintels with stretcher bond over all 3 of them after the building had cracked. At 67, having passed my City & Guilds in 1973, I am about to work with 35 year old bricklayer to restore what they originally built in the 1780s. Work, it’s actually a pleasure. Super video that refreshed all my sleeping knowledge. Well done.
please keep watching, we have over a dozen rubbed and gauged semi circular arches, curved on plan, to do in the coming weeks.
Takes me back to technical drawing classes in school,
Which I loved.
Great craftsmanship Mr Songer.
Really thank you very much Rob.
Hi Rob another great job , in Dublin they use to plaster patent reveals around the bottom of the arch to hide the bottom cuts as each voussior has 3 cuts . Cheers Rob top class work again
Takes me back to my brick cutting days, cut loads of these. We would draw half the arch with key brick then cut into templates and off you go. Love all your uploads.
Another excellent video, this is a truly great resource that you're creating. Many thanks.
Regards
Tim
your vids are truly amazing
Got me out of a fix for the second time thank you
Excellent easy to understand
You should have apprentices working under you. The people that you would teach would start a whole new standard in the trade.
Great to see you again Rob
Brilliant video. I've been waiting for this video for a long time. I'd love to see a video on how to apply this drawing on site and how to use it for marking up the bricks for the arch. Your an inspiration Rob. Thank you. 👍
Nice looking arch 👌🏼, never done one myself 😬🧱👍🏼
Iv been waiting ages to see how a jack arch is done :) .. cheers Rob.. 👏👏
Hi Rob
thanks for the Tutorials got my drawing board out I am a brickwork tutor and like to learn more all the time
keeps me chilled and focused
The cuts can be made easy by laying uncut brick on the lental with a lime sand mix (no portland) then snap a chalk line top and bottom then number them and make your cuts. The lime, sand, water mix will come right off the bricks with a shake and you save a lot of time figuring and measuring ect.
I have a flat arch, axed chambered arch to start to rebuild on the 15th of Dec but as all bricks damaged as there was a porch there which I have removed as the flashing for porch has been cut/recessed into brickwork for arch and not mortar joint above I am going to recut all brick including skewbacks but looking forward to it as never done one only ever drew one out from watching your arch series so rewatching today to rejog memory is it possible to send/email a picture on completion so you can have a laugh over Christmas
Absolutely, I look forward to seeing your work
123sundays@gmail.com
@@robsonger1 thanks Rob be interested to have your feedback 👍
I wood have to agree a very sharp looking atch if built correctly
Thanks Rob! I'm a 3rd year apprentice and I'm reading about arches in our modules.
Excellent, I hope these help..
3 more to upload.
But having so much trouble uploading and the resolution gets weaker after the upload...the original recordings are good HD
@@robsonger1 For me, it is your drawing skills that make these videos so fine to watch.
Kind regards Christiaan
Enjoy your 3rd year all you can buddy, its a real test of patience and perseverance. in the real world you dont get to do much real arch work, its all about going around in squares 🤨
Hi Rob… I was taught in college back in 84-87 that the rise per linear meter was 3mm on Georgian arches is there a reason why you do 10mm because over a 3m arch 30mm seems excessive but to be honest it probably would look fine? I look at you as probably the finest bricklayer in the country and I’m a very knowledgeable and neat bricklayer it makes you laugh the youngsters of today there all about ££ signs and who’s the fastest and a lot of them would run a mile from anything intricate I’ve seen it 😂
Is this the typical arch in UK or England? I love the streamline of it. very clean and modern.
It is a common arch in the UK but not typical, it is more to do with the period in history it was used, "The Georgian Period." 1714-1830.
This period is related to what is know as the Renaissance architecture in Europe.
The Georgian arch was used before and after these dated but this was when it was most common.
I agree with you about how it looks.
Hi , do you have a video of you laying the arch with very thin joints ?
Hi Rob loving these arch tutorials... Cant wait to get my trowel mucky with these challenges
... Quick question could you go into more detail as to why if you don't have a key brick you can't bond the arch? Thanks for the videos
If you don't have a key brick, ie; you have a key joint, that means you have an even number of bricks in the arch. If that is the case you and you bond it, let's say you start with a stretcher on the right hand side, your last brick would be two headers on the left hand side. It is physically possible but it lacks the symmetry so is considered a no, no.
@@harveysmith100 so basically as long as you work from the centre 👍
@@andrewp3713 Sorry Andrew, this is hard to explain. If you started from the centre with a key joint you would end up with a header on one skew back and a stretcher on the other skew back.
If you start with a key brick in the centre, you will always have the same on either skew back as is shown in the video.
I've seen these in Brum with impossible joints ... so thin , you would just get a knife in them . Amazing work .
The next 10 double arches we will be doing have 1mm joints, all on a huge curved wall...these will be awesome if we get it right
@@robsonger1 Where do you get the sand from for such tight joints ... is it sieved ? (Not sure about spelling sieved) 😂
@@robsonger1 Are the joints made of a putty type mortar ?
@@robsonger1 I spoke to an old trowel once about tight beds and joints . He said they used to 'mill' the compo , it was the only way to get it fine , and smooth enough to use .
We will use lime putty
Good stuff ..
Great
I will do it by mini bricks
Wouldn't the two outside bricks in that arch need to be longer than the standard brick because of the weird diagonal cuts?
Yes, all the bricks in a Georgian arch are cut from 'rubbers'. These are oversize bricks that are cut and rubbed on a stone to get their shape. (Video to follow)
That is a problem in reproducing these arches , you cannot get the 'oversized' bricks .
Hi Rob, Is the same type of arch that is known as a Soldier Arch ?
Not quite, a soldier arch is basically just normal bricks laid upright with a normal size joint.
Please watch my video 'Soldier Arch'
Sorry, 'Soldier Course'