Finding Fred - A Health Talk by Rebecca Harder
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Learn how to prevail in the battle of appetite! In our world today, we face more temptation than ever to overcome appetites of the flesh. Billboards, tv advertisements, and fast food chains all entice us to give in to our natural physical needs in a way that is unhealthy for the body and ultimately corrupts the soul. Adam gave in to temptation, but Christ overcame all, despite inexpressible anguish, by fasting in the wilderness.
Using Biblical concepts, this talk describes the urgency of overcoming temptation of the flesh in order to regain Eden through the power of our will and self control. Learn how to overcome indulgences that deaden our moral perception, and instead forge neural pathways that lead us to God.
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Praise the Lord for an interesting and helpful presentation. May the Lord also bless His pleasant servant.
Covenants clean and unclean foods didn't die. We aren't meant to eat certain foods. Thank you!
Where does it say that a portion of the Levitical Laws are to be followed?
@@jannaswanson271 Not levitical law, the only blood that saves anyone is our Messiah's always has been. God doesn't change. The Holy everlasting covenants, the law of Moses, the covenant of promise. Deut 4:30-31. When a bride gets married she takes her husband's name. Do not take His Name in vain but count the cost intending to finish the race bc the way is narrow and it gets more and more narrow. You do not get married on a whim and the wife doesn't get married and then go do whatever she pleases trampling all over her husband which is what people are doing and apostates who say we don't have to keep the commandments or decide their own ways how to keep them. If you love Him you will obey His commandments. We do not get to look at the commandments through our own interpretation but what they actually say how to do them as the Creator made everything to work and they're instructions on how we are supposed to live. While we arent under levitical law, all laws have some profit of learning from but the way creation was designed not all things or animals were intended for food. To live fully in the promises is to do everything the Father's way. If we really love Him we will dig into scripture see ourselves and led by the Holy Spirit conform more and more in every way. When you start to do this then you start to see more clearly the true nature of things and how the whole world truly is deceived and has flipped everything and the reason for our disease is our own self eating what we were warned not to yet people do not understand this. If we do not obey we are in violation covenant breakers. Covenant breakers do not enter heaven and are why the 4 whirlwind judgments are coming and the end of the world to burn. If we don't learn here then we would pollute the new so we will not be allowed to enter and ruin it too. Because of the state of the world it is difficult for us but we must come out of babylon in every sense and for most of us it is a process bc we aren't so familiar with how to obey, we have to start somewhere and scriptures tell us this as well. The thing is as you walk in obedience you do learn that it was never hard, it's all the people around you claiming to be Christians too who are trying to keep you in babylon, but if you follow in obedience It's the most amazing thing. All scripture is important and it all says the same thing. Keep covenant, repent and return to covenant. Most of us can't just flip our lives around so leaving babylon is a process of shedding the ways of the world and doctrines of men and devils, sometimes in big chunks sometimes a little, but always moving forward. I hope this makes sense, eyes to see ears to hear. We have to want Truth bad enough we search out scriptures and never stop. ❤️
@@roseychicka2298 I do search the Scriptures. I posted most of Romans 14 here. I do not hold to the teachings of Ellen White, only of the Scriptures.
SDA do call food clean and unclean. That is fine for any person but I don't think it is good to teach it as a requirement of God. Jesus never said when He healed people to "Go and sin no more...and eat only Organic foods." Food health is the teachings of men.
“Everything is permissible for me,” but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible for me,” but I will not be mastered by anything. “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food,” but God will destroy them both. " I Corinthians 6:12-13
@Janna Swanson We cannot take scripture out of context to fit our own desires. She is not condemning anyone nor passing any judgments whatsoever. She is simply showing you the benefits of eating the way we were meant to period. It has nothing to do with Ellen White or men. Scriptures tell us how to do it His way and it's for our very protection. Only when our hearts are circumcised and we've seen the depths of our own depravity can we understand these scriptures what it means that all things are permissible. There is a reason why we get offended like this and we must repent. Time is short and judgment is upon us. Do not let ANYONE and esp not me convince you but seek God with everything you have to reveal to you. We know nothing in our own ways only what is revealed by the Holy Spirit and confirmed in scripture. We live in dangerous times alreadt and whats coming is beyond imagination. Her teaching is truly inspired and is biblical and it's to help and bless anyone with ears to hear.
@@roseychicka2298 I still would like to know where these food rules come from. What chapter and verse are they laid out?
What bothers me is people teaching it like it is the only way to health. I saw that in the Earthen Vessels newsletter that they are teaching people who live in remote areas not to eat meat. Somehow they mix this with the Gospel when it is as silly as telling them that they must wear a certain color of clothing in order to be healthy.
Excellent talk. Wise counsels. Well presented. This sounds like Original Eden back to Eden Restored. A must for those who are seriously seeking Heaven.
Thank you, God bless you.
Except what she says goes against the teachings of Christ....
@@jannaswanson271 Still peddling your error Janna?
Pro 20:3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.
@@tompinto8692 Just because I don't agree with you does not put me in error. Back up your dietary teachings with scripture without ignoring other clear scripture and you would be worth listening to.
@@tompinto8692 I came here at all because of Chris's fine work on the firmament doctrine. Yet the man I first learned about the firmament from is now claiming to be Jesus Christ. Having some truth does not make one void of errancy.
We are told to bring all things captive to Christ.
I have learned that the SDA upholds Ellen White like the LDS hold up Joseph Smith even when their teachings go against the Scriptures. There is only one Truth.
"If anyone teaches another doctrine and disagrees with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and with godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing." I Timothy 6:3-4
@@jannaswanson271 Janna, I sent you the first Scriptural study showing your error in Romans 14. You totally ignored it and went on to name calling. Your attack of the messenger is simply because you cannot attack the message sent to you. This is satans oldest trick in dealing with unwelcomed truth. If he cannot attack the message, there is no where else to go but the messenger. The papacy employed this system during the dark ages and lost, as truth always stands, 2 Cor 13:8.
Inspiration tells me, Christ came here to restore us Spiritually, Physically, and Mentally. Body, Brain, and Spirit. Our first parents fell on the point of appetite. Since then millions have fallen for the same temptation. In the end (which is soon) many more will fall the same way.
The Physical and the Mental are connected with the Spiritual. If one of these aspects of man's make up are weak or sick, it affects the other 2. This is why many cannot reason correctly today. Their appetite is affecting their reasoning.
Usually the great defense of sin (in this case appetite) is because the soul wants to indulge their wrong habit. If this is your agenda, you can purse it without misrepresenting Scripture.
You said a person can eat anything; do you not see that rats, rodents, scavengers etc. are all bad for your health? Even secular health practitioners will tell you this. Even clean meats are today full of steroids, antibiotics, sugar and now even graphene. But you as a professed Christian are telling us its okay to eat everything? This is so far from Biblical counsel, it is amazing that someone would reason this way and think they have an argument. I see this reasoning as narcissism at best.
Now you have gone so far as to claim that someone on our channel is claiming to be Christ??? I know everyone in this ministry and no one who is claiming that. This is a straight out lie. There will be no liars in Heaven Rev 22:15. This shows the agenda you are peddling very clearly. A smear campaign to defend your wrong habit. I pray you repent of this for your sake.
Your words will incite the hatred of the unwary towards us, when we are simply admonishing people in the right way, and to help their health in a time when we see the contamination of all we eat, so as to bring our minds down to a level where the Lord cannot communicate with us. See what man is up to now;
www.brighteon.com/05f764a7-79b3-4c52-bcc2-7cadbe410093
No doubt you will want the last say in every argument, so feel free to lash out again; Proverbs 25:24.
May the Lord educate you. Regards tom.
God Bless Rebecca, keep'em coming as we pray for our world🙏🏻🕊💜
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This lecture was truly a blessing, and I really needed it! I have quit so many things I was heavily addicted to (in less than a year since God led me to Adventism and the health message), like alcohol, pot, cigarettes, meat, eggs, caffeine, daily milk and chocolate milk drinking, fornication... but I've still been indulging my appetite with cheese and other dairy products, potato chips, salted nuts, chocolate, and vegan and vegetarian junk food like pizzas and burgers with processed mock meat etc...
So I have been struggling to "finish" the job, but I have been getting lots of motivation to not to give up, and I have been praying that God would finish the job that has been started in my heart, and that my thoughts, words and actions would be according to God's will.
A while ago I was on the bus on my way to work, and there I suddenly had the idea of visiting the local grocery store to buy some snacks, despite praying for help with my appetite before leaving home. Just after I had that thought, I heard this "silent whisper" say my first name. It immediately caught my attention, and I realized it was not the "sound" of my own thoughts. After getting my attention the voice simply said "Just go straight to work, don't go to the store." It was firm, but also caring, and I'm glad I was wearing sun glasses, as I got a bit teary when I realized that God has heard my prayers and has not abandoned me despite my stubbornness and backsliding ways...
See Dr Anthony Chaffee MD on Seventh day Adventists and where and why their diet.
Does she have more videos or info?
Cheeseburger is actually healthier than salad or any vegetable. See Dr Robert Kiltz MD
God gave created man to eat plants, and said “it was very good”
Genesis 1:29-31 “29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
Can anyone tell me what resource the speaker is referencing with the CTBH citations? I’m not familiar with the acronym.
The speaker is referencing some of the works of Ellen G White, a prolific Christian author who was born in the 19th century who was one of the pioneers of the Advent movement. We have a video about her: ruclips.net/video/0UH4QdOKsjM/видео.html
-Chris
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At around 15:45. Are you saying those who have accepted Jesus and live a life for Him and live in repentance, but for one reason or another battle with their appetite are not eligible for salvation?
Those eligible for salvation are those whose repentance has wrought carefulness and clearing in their souls. Repentance is only genuine when it works a reformation in the life.
Judas repented to the priests in regards to his sin, but then went out and hanged himself. But godly sorrow works a kind of repentance that allows us to overcome whatever sin we may struggle with. The brethren in Corinth had fallen into many sins, one of which was their making of the Lord's supper into a gluttonous feast. But after Paul's rebuke, these brethren allowed godly sorrow to work repentance and reformation in their lives:
2Co 7:10 For *godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation* not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what *carefulness* it wrought in you, yea, what *clearing of yourselves* , yea, what *indignation* , yea, what *fear* , yea, what *vehement desire* , yea, what *zeal* , yea, what *revenge!* In all things ye have approved yourselves *to be clear* in this matter.
So if we are not overcoming appetite, we must ask ourselves if we are allowing the Lord to work the reformation that repentance is supposed to bring. We must ask ourselves if we are really yielding our will to God so that he might give us the victory.
-Chris.
Earthen Vessels teaches a different doctrine, their own doctrine. Only follow the Scriptures. Jesus taught that what goes into a man does not defile him, rather what comes out of his mouth defiles him.
@@jannaswanson271 Jesus was not teaching by that scripture that we may eat anything we wish.
Look at all the disease that modern society is plagued by. All of the heart attacks , strokes and obesity caused by people indulging in unhealthy food. God is not honoured by people who defile their bodies through lust.
The Scriptures say that God will destroy those that defile their body temple:
1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Co 3:17 *If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy* ; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
@@earthenvesselsministry All foods were created by God. Just the fact alone that you take Jesus's words and dismiss them is cause for alarm.
The only reason you think you know what foods are "unhealthy" is that man told you so. Man has a bad track record on wisdom.
"If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations: 21“Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!”? 22These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such restrictions indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-prescribed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body; but they are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh." Colossians 2
Believe the Bible, not man.
@@earthenvesselsministry search the Scriptures with all diligence to find out what does it mean "to defile"
What about Romans 14? "Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions. 2For one person has faith to eat all things, while another, who is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The one who eats everything must not belittle the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand."13Therefore let us stop judging one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way."....
14 I am convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15 If your brother is distressed by what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother, for whom Christ died.
16Do not allow what you consider good, then, to be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18For whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.
19So then, let us pursue what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to let his eating be a stumbling block. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything to cause your brother to stumble.
22Keep your belief about such matters between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the one who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that is not from faith is sin.'
"If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations: 21“Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!”? 22These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such restrictions indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-prescribed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body; but they are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh. Colossians 2: 20-23
Where does it ever say in the Bible that we are to follow the Levitical Laws after Jesus came and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice?
No one is passing judgment. Weaker in faith or those just starting their walks cannot be expected to be at the same stage of journey as others and we are not to compare our journeys either. What she is saying is that when you eat as the Creator created us to then you get the benefits of those blessings of health. She is encouraging people to walk more fully as many ignore how we are supposed to eat and because of this health suffers. We have been programmed to think of laws as bad but not all laws are bad and God's laws are simply instructions for how we are meant to live. There are many different covenants but only 2 everlasting covenants. All scripture is profitable so understanding even laws that are done away with helps us but even Noah only ate from the clean foods on the ark and why those animals were more than in pairs. ❤️
@@roseychicka2298 In Romans 14 Paul states that he is "convinced and fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself."
Jesus says that nothing that goes into a man can defile him.
If you are not upholding Levitical laws then where do these food laws come from?
SDA teach not to eat meat, red meat in particular but even the priests ate red meat. Where does the "no red meat" law come from?
The Levitical laws say that one cannot eat most bugs or rodents- can you eat chickens that eat bugs and rodents?
The law is to convict people of sin, those living by the Spirit are not ruled by Law.
Unless you repent of your lawlessness and begin to walk in obedience to the Creator I fear you will hear those dreaded words 'I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.' So many who think they can live in rebellion to His instructions and then enter His kingdom will find themselves too late lamenting not humbling themselves and taking the advice of those who understand perhaps better than they do, but rather choosing to walk after the desires of their flesh not willing to submit themselves to His instructions. Right now it is not too late though. Don't wait. He is gracious to forgive when we decide to walk in obedience to His wonderful and perfect law.
@@roseychicka2298 in the light of God's Word ''" when you eat as the Creator created us to then you get the benefits of those blessings of health ''" may I ask, how do you expect this in the fallen world ? were there not some adjustments to original diet and creation after the fall? e.g. green herbs of the field added to our diet, clean animals eating to Noah, animals becoming meat eaters due to death etc.? the only way to be saved is through faith in the Name of Jesus Christ ... 1 Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Let Him control your apetite - and not only for food or drink, let Him instill temperance in all things and do not head advice of the world in anything.but trust the Lord that any affliction is for our good. There is many false prophets out there and ''health message'' of the world is not the only false and twisted one!
@@roseychicka2298 our loving Heavenly Father gives us sustenance daily, every breath He gives us even before we ask .... let us accept all His gifts even unpleasant ones with thanks, acknowledge His goodness and righteousness and offer ourselves back to Him to be used of Him for His purposes as we don't know how to do good