From the nearly the start Fiona was written as someone who did everything she could to take care of her siblings but her own relationships were a mess. She chose losers over nice stable boyfriends. She chose Jimmy/Steve over the nice cop who helped her out a few times. She that one time slept with a married man (although she may not have known it at the time) and ran when his wife tried to confront her. Fiona was a stable influence on her siblings for most of her series run but her own relationships were almost always unstable because as Frank once told her "you always chose pussies".
I get it's fiction, but, I mean, it makes total sense. Fiona grew up with the worst possible image of a man in Frank, and, sadly, we humans tend to repeat the patterns we see
As fictional as this is, fiona grew up with zero guidance from any adult to teach her about boundaries and what would be better for her. It's a miracle she could raise that many kids on her own.
That's typically how it happens in the real world girls choose losers and have their little fun phase if you know what I mean and once they're done throwing it to everyone who they want to throw it to then they settle down with the man they know they're supposed to be with once they have had their fun
Yeah, she becomes pretty deplorable after this. I think this might have been the last season I watched because I was just like, "Ya know, these guys bring this on themselves." Even Debs having that baby was pretty bullshit, she tricked that guy into thinking that there was almost no way she could get pregnant.
He was a good guy, but she should have never dated him in the first place. It was clear from the beginning she was never into him. She even thought having sex with him was a chore.
So THAT'S why he's being punished by public humiliation? I didn't get to this season yet. Out of all of my assumptions ❌He Scammed Fiona ❌He forced her to do something ❌He got away with something bad he did to her ❌He ruined her chance at life ❌He SA her and scammed her. He's there for cheating.....he cheated on the girl who slept with someone's husband KNOWINGLY and cheated on a guy. Had an open relationship with another guy And she's punishing this guy. For cheating? .... .... .... .... .... I hate this show again.
@@Gr4ymatter I know it's Shameless. That's why I made those assumptions. This was like the equivalent of that white lady who won miss Japan being cancelled in Japan for 'adultry'...in _japan_
@@Gr4ymatter I was REALLY hoping that he was her hiring manager who fired her or didn't hired her over an extremely petty reason at least (or no reason at all because it be like that) No it's because he cheated on her 🙄 why am I sympathizing with a cheater? 😒 They're not supposed to make me support a freaking cheater!
"Does a paintball gun hurt?" I would compare it to letting a pro golfer tee off at the driving range while you stand....maybe 2 feet in front of where they are driving from.
Gotta love how Fiona cheats on a guy (twice), plays the victim card when she gets caught, cheats on another guy (who she married btw), plays the victim card again, and when she gets cheated on she also has to play the victim card.
I hated this scene so much because of that. Fiona is a serial cheater, we see it time and time again. Everyone hyping the Gallaghers up for this assault when it's basically Fi's MO. Also, she did not even seem to like Ford that much (understandably, he is unsufferable).
Iam glad someone finally pointed that out. I also have no sympathy for her. and title of the vid should be. The gallagers get revenge on ford for pulling a fiona LOL
If I was there and Ford asked for help, I’d be shouting ‘no way, dude. If you’re up there like this you must’ve done something to deserve it. Take your punishment like a good asshole.’ 😆
male Friend of mine whose girlfriend was a cheater got his revenge is such a sweet and legal way. she was gonna move into his condo or something together with him paying most of it. Well he found out about the cheating when he found her and another man in their bed out cold. He took the pictures as proof and then started to turn everything over in her name to which it was a 2 year non breakable lease or some thing like that not sure what exactly. He made sure to pay the bills for the next few months while having cameras everywhere set up without his Girlfriend knowing again since it was still his name on the lease he could do that. Once he had enough he took down the cameras transferred her name to the lease and then went off on a business trip for a few months with it really was a business trip. A month later he got the phone call he was waiting for with the cheater telling him off about everything to which he replied that since she sent so much time at the Condo with her boy toy then she could just pay the rent and everything. and then hung up. Needless to say that the boy toy left and she was stuck paying the bills for 2 years. By the time the years were up the woman wasn't the same anymore as her entire savings had been drained and she had to take out a loan for the condo. Then she had to pay even more for not keeping the Condo up the the requirements set. Plus some other things. The guy never did have to use the photos and video as well as he never posted them as well to get his revenge saying that there are other way to ruin someone without shaming them. He did keep a back up just in case the cheater would come for him about the condo.
Fearless Fiona, Lightning Lip, Invincible Ian, Deadly Debbie, Killer Carl, Lefty Liam, Furious Frank, Ferocious Franny, Fisticuffs Freddie, Menacing Mickey, Takedown Tammi, Vicious Veronica, and Kickass Kevin. Mickey counts since he married Ian in season ten. Sammi doesn't count for a couple of reasons. 1: She is *NOT* a Gallagher by name. 2: She screwed Ian and Mickey over in season five. Sammi's a traitor!!!
Liar, yes…….but a cheater? I never saw it that way. If he was sleeping with the wife it seems her coming to the house would have been a different confrontation. Instead she was just kind of like ugh your girlfriend is here late.
I’m not this far into the series(first time watching), but I’m past the part where Fiona hooks up with her ex-crush from High school,who is married . (Season 2 ep 3)Now I watch this! Is it ok that I don’t have sympathy for Fiona?
Just being able to make a billboard sized pillory and nobody said anything for hours, even after the guy was locked in it says a lot. Especially with how nobody says a word about a chick shooting him with a paintball gun.
What’s crazy is they justify physical assault of a man that kept asking to be acknowledged by his partner who he kept bending over backwards to serve. Shouldnt have cheated on the physical, emotional abuser with selfish tendencies? She Shouldn’t have laughed in his face the one time he asked he to talk to him about his one problem. American shameless sucks, add more unrealistic situations because you can’t handle decent writing I guess.
Shameless has some pretty bad writing sometimes. Like the whole her and ford bowling date thing all told us he was gonna cheat at some point. The whole Lip is a stud writing was ridiculous too.
Love this family so much. This show just demonstrates how evil capitalism is, with the suffering it perpetuates through generations. Imagine what each of these children could accomplish if they had safety, security, and their basics needs met.
@ssgoko88 yeah Europe is doing so great recently with the Ukraine and Russia war, the UK collapsing, Germany going far right again, France with constant rioting and protest bans, Sweden with an immigration crisis. I can keep going but you get the point
@@RueRyuzaki6 collapsing? No we're just run by a bunch of c**ts, just like you. But with free healthcare. As for the rest of Europe. Yes, I'd pretty much prefer to live anywhere in the EU than in the US. The Nordic countries particularly are about as close to a Utopia as anywhere. (zero homelessness etc..). FYI. Ukraine isn't part of the EU. Putin would not cope with starting a second war, let alone one against the whole EU. Thinking about it, I might prefer seatle to spain. I much prefer rain too scorching. Although the *free healthcare & national pensions makes it a toss-up. But I live in the UK, so I get all of that here anyway.
@@RueRyuzaki6ah yes because having basic human rights, dignity and means to survive clearly makes a place a utopia… i’m in the UK and while it’s not ideal in ways i’m much happier here than i would be in america that’s for fucking certain. although despite us having some more resources and social services there’s still plenty of families in dire situations over here too- can’t eat, can’t heat the house, sleeping on the floor… poverty is a problem literally everywhere, some countries more than others. in an ideal world nobody would have to live in situations where they can’t even afford the minimal essentials like food or heating, *that’s not a utopia, just a place where basic needs are met.*
It got so political for no reason, they ruined the show for their politics views… I watch tv and movies to escape reality, they could’ve kept Ian Gay, they could’ve kept Debbie as a lesbian, but they brought the 2020 elections, they made Debbie a confused person, they made Ian into a LGBT statement. Even Carl’s military service got ruined for helping a trans person. Is like damn man, I’m trying to go to a world of fiction and get away from the hatred and nonsense of the world.
@@xivmercenary wasnt the show very serious about growing poor and misunderstood, thats political. I just dont see why a show is terrible cor having a voice, maybe the quality of the message wasnt there anymore ?
@@bomnitoperro9422 wasn’t a fan of them bringing in Covid and elections, i personally like the imagine shows/movies/book take place in a different universe, just my personal preference
Why are Americans so deterministic? The environment can influence, sure! But humans also have behaviors that can be changed, and genetic influences, which boils down to: the innate and the self are the stronger mechanisms, when determining someone's life. As the environment can only go so far to curb or exacerbate human behavior.
Never thought I’d see the day Debs cared about anyone but herself
Deb always cared about all of them. She was always the last to receive help, the one to put up with and support others and who needed love the most
Deb was literally the most caring out of all them at the beginning
@@Oddbisketumm you must not have watched the same show then.. In the later seasons she's a complete piece of trash to everyone
@@Oddbisket what show did you watch?
Fr
“She has to sell her apartment building cuz she doesn’t have money for lunch” the writing of this show is so funny
The last time Debs was a real OG.
she literally missed Ian's wedding to distract a homophobic Russian lady from kicking them out and lent lip money for an RV so he could have privacy.
@@chaosspy6723i may not like Debs but she did that and it was a good thing to do. Selfless even
@@Sharp5hooterBG and she welded the door open when that lady locked herself in the apartment building fiona owned
@@chaosspy6723this lady was Polish and she wasn't homophobic, her husband was
@chleb5778 then why did they only distract her?
I still love how fionas siblings stood up for her, even though the series was kinda trash in the later seasons
It got trash when she left but she did everything for them at a very young age the least they could do is help her out
@@squirrellboy21nah the last two seasons (10 and 11) are still funny and comforting. They beat out out seasons 8 and 9.
@@romeostruedudewhere does it start to being mediocre then to stop there ?
I hate how they ended it it was so disappointing French to live forever nothing could have killed him
Fiona stood up to them a million times
The best scene ever thank you Deb for helping your big sister out from the situation.
Eh, this doesn’t excuse what she became later.
Finally, a punishment that fits the crime.
From the nearly the start Fiona was written as someone who did everything she could to take care of her siblings but her own relationships were a mess. She chose losers over nice stable boyfriends. She chose Jimmy/Steve over the nice cop who helped her out a few times. She that one time slept with a married man (although she may not have known it at the time) and ran when his wife tried to confront her. Fiona was a stable influence on her siblings for most of her series run but her own relationships were almost always unstable because as Frank once told her "you always chose pussies".
I get it's fiction, but, I mean, it makes total sense. Fiona grew up with the worst possible image of a man in Frank, and, sadly, we humans tend to repeat the patterns we see
As fictional as this is, fiona grew up with zero guidance from any adult to teach her about boundaries and what would be better for her. It's a miracle she could raise that many kids on her own.
That's typically how it happens in the real world girls choose losers and have their little fun phase if you know what I mean and once they're done throwing it to everyone who they want to throw it to then they settle down with the man they know they're supposed to be with once they have had their fun
❤❤❤@@nalublackwater9729
Fiona knew he was married, and she didn’t want to sleep with a married man but eventually gave in and did it.
The single time ive ever not hated debbie
Yeah, she becomes pretty deplorable after this. I think this might have been the last season I watched because I was just like, "Ya know, these guys bring this on themselves." Even Debs having that baby was pretty bullshit, she tricked that guy into thinking that there was almost no way she could get pregnant.
Same. She was the worst character in the entire series.
What about the time she chased down Peppa to serve her court papers?
They made her happy again
Debs gets her redemption!!,
“If you wanna katniss everdeen this shit” ✋😂
Edit: MY FUGLY AUTOCORRECT
Katniss. Not Katina.
@@batbabe1507 oh whoops my autocorrect
this season was the peak of the show, i fucking love Shameless
I think Fiona's only descent boyfriend was her boss and she end up cheating on him with his brother lol she sucks
He was a good guy, but she should have never dated him in the first place. It was clear from the beginning she was never into him. She even thought having sex with him was a chore.
Her husband was also very decent and good man and she screwed him over
She obviously didn't love him though
I liked jimmy or Steve lol depending on how u spin it 😂
@@riomckinley3486 if u have to spin it….then is it truly worth it?
That'll for sure teach Ford to not cheat again hahaha
i dont get it tho bc fiona was a serial cheater
So THAT'S why he's being punished by public humiliation?
I didn't get to this season yet.
Out of all of my assumptions
❌He Scammed Fiona
❌He forced her to do something
❌He got away with something bad he did to her
❌He ruined her chance at life
❌He SA her and scammed her.
He's there for cheating.....he cheated on the girl who slept with someone's husband KNOWINGLY and cheated on a guy. Had an open relationship with another guy
And she's punishing this guy.
For cheating?
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I hate this show again.
@@cxireen2193 Yeah, I get that is a harsh reaction to cheating, but then again they are Gallaghers.
@@Gr4ymatter I know it's Shameless. That's why I made those assumptions.
This was like the equivalent of that white lady who won miss Japan being cancelled in Japan for 'adultry'...in _japan_
@@Gr4ymatter I was REALLY hoping that he was her hiring manager who fired her or didn't hired her over an extremely petty reason at least (or no reason at all because it be like that)
No it's because he cheated on her 🙄 why am I sympathizing with a cheater? 😒 They're not supposed to make me support a freaking cheater!
They might be fuck ups, but no one hurts a Gallagher, without a world of hurt. I kind of like that.
Gallaghers aren't special
"Does a paintball gun hurt?" I would compare it to letting a pro golfer tee off at the driving range while you stand....maybe 2 feet in front of where they are driving from.
Even better Lip going "Not if you deserve it" in the background
Gotta love how Fiona cheats on a guy (twice), plays the victim card when she gets caught, cheats on another guy (who she married btw), plays the victim card again, and when she gets cheated on she also has to play the victim card.
That's a great point! She wrongs people all the time, yet falls apart the moment someone wrongs her.
😂😂😂
@@smithynoir9980yeah but she didn’t hide a family like Ford did
I hated this scene so much because of that. Fiona is a serial cheater, we see it time and time again. Everyone hyping the Gallaghers up for this assault when it's basically Fi's MO. Also, she did not even seem to like Ford that much (understandably, he is unsufferable).
Iam glad someone finally pointed that out. I also have no sympathy for her. and title of the vid should be. The gallagers get revenge on ford for pulling a fiona LOL
Ever since debs found out about jimmy, she always cared about fiona and her relationships
Debby’s best moments
Debbie was a fucking G for doing this!!
VERY uncommon Deb W
Debbie was so worried and careful in this
If I was there and Ford asked for help, I’d be shouting ‘no way, dude. If you’re up there like this you must’ve done something to deserve it. Take your punishment like a good asshole.’ 😆
Best Prank ever. Well done, Debbie
Well he's not going to be able to sit down for a month 🤣🤣🤣🤣
ironic Fiona cheated on her cop boyfriend with his brother
mike wasn't a cop
ACAB
Fiona is the queen of self-sabotage.
I don't watch this show but this makes me want to 😂
That's how I got roped into binging this
Imagine walking down the street ,you notice 3 people putting ski masks on and limber-ing up. 😮
Ford totally deserved that.
Well, this show gives me ideas on how to deal with a cheater. I don't have a boyfriend, but just in case he does cheat on me, ive gotten ideas😂
male Friend of mine whose girlfriend was a cheater got his revenge is such a sweet and legal way. she was gonna move into his condo or something together with him paying most of it. Well he found out about the cheating when he found her and another man in their bed out cold. He took the pictures as proof and then started to turn everything over in her name to which it was a 2 year non breakable lease or some thing like that not sure what exactly. He made sure to pay the bills for the next few months while having cameras everywhere set up without his Girlfriend knowing again since it was still his name on the lease he could do that. Once he had enough he took down the cameras transferred her name to the lease and then went off on a business trip for a few months with it really was a business trip.
A month later he got the phone call he was waiting for with the cheater telling him off about everything to which he replied that since she sent so much time at the Condo with her boy toy then she could just pay the rent and everything. and then hung up.
Needless to say that the boy toy left and she was stuck paying the bills for 2 years. By the time the years were up the woman wasn't the same anymore as her entire savings had been drained and she had to take out a loan for the condo. Then she had to pay even more for not keeping the Condo up the the requirements set. Plus some other things.
The guy never did have to use the photos and video as well as he never posted them as well to get his revenge saying that there are other way to ruin someone without shaming them. He did keep a back up just in case the cheater would come for him about the condo.
yeah thats illegal, grow up
@@johnnyringo2695 Damn, it was just a joke. Of course I actually won't do that, so I know it's illegal
@@johnnyringo2695 damn must have struck a nerve... I wonder why
@@matelko333lmao johnny’s the a hole who’d be up there
Karma's a beast 😂😂😂
But Fiona isn't getting hurt...?
“Not if you deserve it”
Fearless Fiona, Lightning Lip, Invincible Ian, Deadly Debbie, Killer Carl, Lefty Liam, Furious Frank, Ferocious Franny, Fisticuffs Freddie, Menacing Mickey, Takedown Tammi, Vicious Veronica, and Kickass Kevin. Mickey counts since he married Ian in season ten. Sammi doesn't count for a couple of reasons. 1: She is *NOT* a Gallagher by name. 2: She screwed Ian and Mickey over in season five. Sammi's a traitor!!!
What about tami? She and lip have a high chance of getting married in future..
@@50.sadiatasnim97 Ok, then how about Terrible Tami?
@@nicholascole3296 Oohh!! Alright.. I guess you don't like tami..😂 It’s fine..
@@50.sadiatasnim97 Yeah, I can do better. How about Tough Tami? 🤣
@@50.sadiatasnim97 Oh no, wait. How's Takedown Tammi?
This was Debbie’s last good scene in the show.
Loved this show
But doesn’t Fiona cheat like all the time??
Yea.
she can give it, but can't take it when it's thrown back at her.
she also gave coke to the black kid
She cheated on two guys.
Yeah, she made me mad with that.
@@johnnyringo2695she didn’t that was an accident she wasn’t in the room (still her fault why you have Coke around a child)
It's safe to say that karma come back to her both times
Liar, yes…….but a cheater? I never saw it that way. If he was sleeping with the wife it seems her coming to the house would have been a different confrontation. Instead she was just kind of like ugh your girlfriend is here late.
All that not to show the paint balls hitting the guy boooooo
Dude was dating Fiona but was also married with a kid.
I love how debs is 2 types of rapist yet she still feel superior to others
I’m not this far into the series(first time watching), but I’m past the part where Fiona hooks up with her ex-crush from High school,who is married . (Season 2 ep 3)Now I watch this! Is it ok that I don’t have sympathy for Fiona?
Don't underestimate the Gallaghers ford
the amount of times fionea has cheated on people its shocking she gets upset when it happens to her
My favorite moment in the show 😎😎😎
Yeah because thats totally worth going to jail for literally kidnapping and assault
Lip looks like a young danial bryan
Just being able to make a billboard sized pillory and nobody said anything for hours, even after the guy was locked in it says a lot. Especially with how nobody says a word about a chick shooting him with a paintball gun.
What’s crazy is they justify physical assault of a man that kept asking to be acknowledged by his partner who he kept bending over backwards to serve.
Shouldnt have cheated on the physical, emotional abuser with selfish tendencies?
She Shouldn’t have laughed in his face the one time he asked he to talk to him about his one problem.
American shameless sucks, add more unrealistic situations because you can’t handle decent writing I guess.
What season is this from
What goes around comes around fiona
was he even cheating?
Soooo yeeee he was straight up lying to her. Sleeping with her. And when she followed him finding out he had a wife and son I think
@@greenendergaming2014yeah he was
He lied to Fiona that patty was his mom and that’s the name of his wife
He said he’s getting a divorce soon
@@Heeem13 yeah but he wasnt cheat thou he was staying for his kid
Married but not cheating
It's a shame too. Cause I liked how Ford and Fiona went together. The names I mean. Double F's. In your balls, Ford.
Fiona is a terrible gf cheats all the time
If thats what men get doing that to women what kind of punishment do women get when they do the same thing to men?
Equal for all.
I LOVE IT!! XDDDD
Woah woah woah he did not cheat on fiona he was going through a divorce and didnt tell her she overreacted
Shameless has some pretty bad writing sometimes. Like the whole her and ford bowling date thing all told us he was gonna cheat at some point. The whole Lip is a stud writing was ridiculous too.
What the hell happened to the dog?
Became hot dog 😄😋
What ep is this nd what season
How the hell did she even get him up there? It's implied he was unconscious so hows a teenager gonna lift that guy up onto a billboard
She said in the clip before they put the masks on that they had a pully.
Debbie could have been such an iconic family-protective feminist comedy relief like in this scene but instead they made her sooo annoying
NEVER mess or cross the Gallaghers! You'll regret it every time!
Love this family so much. This show just demonstrates how evil capitalism is, with the suffering it perpetuates through generations. Imagine what each of these children could accomplish if they had safety, security, and their basics needs met.
"Imagine what would happen if they lived in a utopia"
@@RueRyuzaki6...or you know, europe
@ssgoko88 yeah Europe is doing so great recently with the Ukraine and Russia war, the UK collapsing, Germany going far right again, France with constant rioting and protest bans, Sweden with an immigration crisis. I can keep going but you get the point
@@RueRyuzaki6 collapsing? No we're just run by a bunch of c**ts, just like you. But with free healthcare.
As for the rest of Europe. Yes, I'd pretty much prefer to live anywhere in the EU than in the US. The Nordic countries particularly are about as close to a Utopia as anywhere. (zero homelessness etc..).
FYI. Ukraine isn't part of the EU. Putin would not cope with starting a second war, let alone one against the whole EU.
Thinking about it, I might prefer seatle to spain. I much prefer rain too scorching.
Although the *free healthcare & national pensions makes it a toss-up.
But I live in the UK, so I get all of that here anyway.
@@RueRyuzaki6ah yes because having basic human rights, dignity and means to survive clearly makes a place a utopia… i’m in the UK and while it’s not ideal in ways i’m much happier here than i would be in america that’s for fucking certain. although despite us having some more resources and social services there’s still plenty of families in dire situations over here too- can’t eat, can’t heat the house, sleeping on the floor… poverty is a problem literally everywhere, some countries more than others. in an ideal world nobody would have to live in situations where they can’t even afford the minimal essentials like food or heating, *that’s not a utopia, just a place where basic needs are met.*
The only time Debbie actually did something good. But 1 episode later she became the worst character again.
This show sucked after season 4
I think it was still good until season 7ish, but i still really enjoyed the later seasons. I get what u mean tho
@@saysomethingaldcsbiggestfa792why was bad ?
It got so political for no reason, they ruined the show for their politics views… I watch tv and movies to escape reality, they could’ve kept Ian Gay, they could’ve kept Debbie as a lesbian, but they brought the 2020 elections, they made Debbie a confused person, they made Ian into a LGBT statement. Even Carl’s military service got ruined for helping a trans person. Is like damn man, I’m trying to go to a world of fiction and get away from the hatred and nonsense of the world.
@@xivmercenary wasnt the show very serious about growing poor and misunderstood, thats political. I just dont see why a show is terrible cor having a voice, maybe the quality of the message wasnt there anymore ?
@@bomnitoperro9422 wasn’t a fan of them bringing in Covid and elections, i personally like the imagine shows/movies/book take place in a different universe, just my personal preference
This show is satire right? It’s gotta be
stop crying
@@johnnyringo2695 blow me
😂😂
Why are Americans so deterministic? The environment can influence, sure! But humans also have behaviors that can be changed, and genetic influences, which boils down to: the innate and the self are the stronger mechanisms, when determining someone's life. As the environment can only go so far to curb or exacerbate human behavior.
Being shot in the butt with a paint gun yikes especially if it went in between lol yikes
so funy mabn
Rare non-Debbie L
1980
I quit watching Shame/ess after Emmy left.
This show ent downhill hard after season 4
Debbie is NOT a popular character LOL
I'm glad i stopped watching this show after the first episode.
What's so appealing about terrible people with high and mighty attitudes?
It's a show that's called Shameless; what did you expect?
@@Shiningstar24682
Shameless behavior minus the high and mighty attitude.......obviously.
Been reading long?
Didn’t know there was an American version of Shameless, looks pretty lame. Typically clean cut American even when trying to portray scummy people.