NOTE: Arena run for the 14700K was actually recorded with DLSS on quality, I completely forgot to turn it off, This did not change the results at all. Join the discord server ( discord.gg/6Utxzsa9wc ) that is run by RUclipsr Klemintime @klemintime1452 (I highly recommend you check out his channel!), there is a big community active that is always willing to help you out with any pc or performance related issues. Personally I'm very active in this discord so join up if you need any help with Tarkov or other related PC issues.
Thanks for the heads up and the comparison video. Just for clarification; did you find that the14700K running on *DDR4 @ 4000MT/s + CL18* yields better results than a setup with *DDR5* like the *32GB 6000 CL28 kit* chosen for the AMD 9800X3D, which running at its largely accepted _optimal/ sweet spot_ of speed (*_6000+ CL30/28_*) in 1:1 mode? Serious question as I (along with many others who are or may soon be kitting out a new 9800X3D system). If so, I may need to revisit/retool my ram selection for a current 14700K build running DDR5. I am sincerely hoping that the DDR4 4000 CL18 kit proves superior than it current DDR5 setup at 6600 CL32. Thanks again for the great content.
@@StSNC332 Thanks for checking it out! I sadly do not have data for a 14700k ddr4 4000C18 vs ddr5 6000C28, Based on other games I would say these are close in performance for tarkov since on ddr4 you can get away with gear 1 as you can't do that with ddr5 even at 6000. To beat ddr4 4000C18 you'll probably need atleast ddr5 7000+ if I had to guess for tarkov. For a while 6000C30 has been the sweetspot for the 7800X3D so that was my goal when buying ram, I saw this 6000C28 kit and it looked nice so I went with that, In this video it was in 1:1 mode and fclk was at 2000. I would check out pyurologie here on Ytube, he has many videos regarding RAM in Tarkov.
@@wildgg Thank you for such a speedy response. I did not have a full enough understanding of how this specific game seems to favor higher frequency DDR4 kits for Intel CPUs rather than sub-7000 DDR5 kits. That clears up my questioning of why the ram kits for these CPUs are not matched. I picked up the same kit(DDR5 6000 CL28) to test on both the 7800X3D and 9800X3D, and its good to see that kit doing well(really wish they decided to make a 64GB kit that was not 8000MT/s for users to stay in 1:1 mode). I have some more digging to do in order to find the optimal CPU and Ram kit combo for MSFS 2024 in 4K. Thank you!
Would love to see a benchmark using variable optics, especially on maps like streets, lighthouse and shoreline. Looking different directions etc, just to see what sort of performance these CPUs get when doing what usually tanks my FPS rn
Then go search it up 😅. This video is for those wanna see the FPS gap from these 2 chips. To also see if it's worth spending another 1k from switching from Intel to AMD.
I jumped to AMD from this setup you're running and I bet it doubled my fps and got rid of a lot of the jittery frame in frame stuff - zoomed ADS. However, like anything I've ever experienced with AMD, it has been terrible otherwise. I bet I've reinstalled windows twice, the bloatware AMD pushes is trash, and it's in general extremely finicky compared to any Intel chip I've ever had. There was a lot of new tech tied up with the release of these chips tho. I helped build a clone of my PC for a friend, and that 7800x3d shit the bed without an OC at idle one day. The RMA process was fine, but they never contacted me to inform me the chip was bad. I had to check back in 2 weeks later after hearing nothing to find out they were out of the 78's and it would be some time before they had replacements... After I nudged them about doing something or refunding they upgraded it to a 7950x3d. Which is cool and all, but if I'd stayed Intel I would have had a lot more uptime and a lot less headache. So, make sure you're making the right move. It's expensive, and I'm probably going to jump back here shortly. I've got a used 9600k with a 3060ti that I would rely on 10x over this setup if it wasn't for tarky. There's nothing but misinformation from people who have no real world experience or are being paid to cherry pick and promote. Intel is right back where they need to be in my opinion. I also never see anyone bench tarky in a way that even begins to show what actual gameplay is like... You almost need to watch twitch streams to see anything close to relevant...
I think you could add 10% on top of my intel w ddr4 numbers at best. The streamer axel_tv has a fast ddr5 ram kit and doesn't come close to the 9800x3d numbers. If you go to axel_tv's twitch page to his latest vod, at 01:55:00 you can see his streets performance with ddr5 7800.
@wildgg thanks for the info! Looking to upgrade from 3080ti to 4080 super but this time not go with Intel since last I heard the new intels fry themselves 🤣
@@wildgg man i got those numbers on my 1080sup and 13600k you mb need put ddr 5 for this pocessor and try again. Course test need make over 14900 for fair. bla bla bla amd piar,but same turbo bust circus like intel on last micron before 2nm is not real.
13700k ddr5 6400 cl32. I tested the fps in the same street locations as in the video. And i got 10 fps more than i7-14700K with ddr4. btw the performance of 9800x3d is amazing.
As you can see in the video the difference is quite big and it's up to you to decide if that jump is worth it. When it comes to: is this upgrade worth it? I would say that is up to you and not me, it comes down to if you're happy with the performance you currently getting and if you have the money to spend. The 'is it worth it' question is really only for you to answer imo. I can say it's worth it because I had the money to spend but others might not have the money to spend on these parts, hopefully that made sense lol.. Here's another video of mine showing gameplay of the 9800X3D: ruclips.net/video/UNk6Rbixg9o/видео.htmlsi=Qim9TtLe1-0QvzR2 Hopefully this helped.
Streets testing in this video was done in Offline with no ai, did you test in offline aswell without ai? If you tested in PvP your fps kinda makes sense because the zombie events tanks fps.
I am on a 10850k with 3080 buddy has a 12700k 3080. Both same resolution he pulls way more fps. Other buddy with a 7800x3d and 4070ti super destroys both us. Tarkov LOVES amd's x3d cpu's. I would bet a intel rig with 4090 would pull less fps then a 9800x3d with a 4070ti in tarkov.
@@gzarrillo Meh its unstable and unreliable it run too hot its not even close to be comparable with the x3d v cache gaming CPU and the new Intel line is not better than the 12 gen sooo yeah the facts are the facts !Go watch hardware unboxed benchmarks and stats !
I know and I'm sorry but due to the zombie event I felt like it would not be a fair representation especially considering I did not have footage of the 14700K during the zombie event.
you trolling or what? why ram on 14700k is 4000? its decreasing the performance DRASTICALLY, you must have done it intentionally since the STANDARD setting is 4800 and you can even go as high as 8000+, you manipulate showing different ram speeds ffs
I did not have a DDR5 board for lga1700 but that doesn't mean the test made no sense as ddr4 4000c18 gear 1 is very capable. A decent DDR5 kit is round 7-10% faster.
Will go down as one of the greats for sure. Hopefully the price of the 7800X3D can go back down closer to 300, that will make it an awesome CPU for the money.
From my experience with Tarkov Intel does scale nicely with faster ram but it's not that extreme. I highly doubt a 13700k even with 8000mhz ram isn't going to come close to a 7800/9800X3D.
You need to shove 1.65v into a hynix a-die, manually set the timings and sub-timings, test it all in karhu for 24h to make sure its stable. + Lock all the cores And possibly only then intel chips can compete in 1% and 0.1% low against 7800x3d in tarkov. In this configuration, Intel can indeed win in some games. But this level of overclocking is something only two people on RUclips mess around with, and neither of them have tested Tarkov 14900k vs 7800x3d. So we cannot know for sure. But we can know for sure that any Intel XMP speed is not good enough to compete with 7800x3d And I'm talking about the old X3D. The 9800X3D is a whole different story that does not look good for intel
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NOTE: Arena run for the 14700K was actually recorded with DLSS on quality, I completely forgot to turn it off, This did not change the results at all.
Join the discord server ( discord.gg/6Utxzsa9wc ) that is run by RUclipsr Klemintime @klemintime1452 (I highly recommend you check out his channel!), there is a big community active that is always willing to help you out with any pc or performance related issues. Personally I'm very active in this discord so join up if you need any help with Tarkov or other related PC issues.
Thanks for the heads up and the comparison video. Just for clarification; did you find that the14700K running on *DDR4 @ 4000MT/s + CL18* yields better results than a setup with *DDR5* like the *32GB 6000 CL28 kit* chosen for the AMD 9800X3D, which running at its largely accepted _optimal/ sweet spot_ of speed (*_6000+ CL30/28_*) in 1:1 mode? Serious question as I (along with many others who are or may soon be kitting out a new 9800X3D system). If so, I may need to revisit/retool my ram selection for a current 14700K build running DDR5. I am sincerely hoping that the DDR4 4000 CL18 kit proves superior than it current DDR5 setup at 6600 CL32. Thanks again for the great content.
@@StSNC332 Thanks for checking it out!
I sadly do not have data for a 14700k ddr4 4000C18 vs ddr5 6000C28, Based on other games I would say these are close in performance for tarkov since on ddr4 you can get away with gear 1 as you can't do that with ddr5 even at 6000. To beat ddr4 4000C18 you'll probably need atleast ddr5 7000+ if I had to guess for tarkov.
For a while 6000C30 has been the sweetspot for the 7800X3D so that was my goal when buying ram, I saw this 6000C28 kit and it looked nice so I went with that, In this video it was in 1:1 mode and fclk was at 2000.
I would check out pyurologie here on Ytube, he has many videos regarding RAM in Tarkov.
@@wildgg Thank you for such a speedy response. I did not have a full enough understanding of how this specific game seems to favor higher frequency DDR4 kits for Intel CPUs rather than sub-7000 DDR5 kits. That clears up my questioning of why the ram kits for these CPUs are not matched. I picked up the same kit(DDR5 6000 CL28) to test on both the 7800X3D and 9800X3D, and its good to see that kit doing well(really wish they decided to make a 64GB kit that was not 8000MT/s for users to stay in 1:1 mode). I have some more digging to do in order to find the optimal CPU and Ram kit combo for MSFS 2024 in 4K. Thank you!
Would love to see a benchmark using variable optics, especially on maps like streets, lighthouse and shoreline. Looking different directions etc, just to see what sort of performance these CPUs get when doing what usually tanks my FPS rn
Added to the list!
100% shoreline looking towards resort threw a optic TANKS fps.
7800x3d vs 9800x3d? That is the real benchmark people need
Then go search it up 😅. This video is for those wanna see the FPS gap from these 2 chips. To also see if it's worth spending another 1k from switching from Intel to AMD.
already been done multiple times now
it's 0-20% gooder in most games
Hardware Unboxed just posted theirs.
This is crazy, just ordered 9800x3d switching from ryzen 9 7900x
Nice! Will be a good upgrade!
Don't forget to update bios before switching and re-install of chipset drivers after!
I actually ordered new motherboard, even though my current has am5 socket and updated chipset. But wanted better quality haha
Same here
Still on a 10850k and 3080 1440p and lately have felt lacking in tarkov. I knew tarkov was cpu dependent but holly crap.
OC your RAM
I jumped to AMD from this setup you're running and I bet it doubled my fps and got rid of a lot of the jittery frame in frame stuff - zoomed ADS. However, like anything I've ever experienced with AMD, it has been terrible otherwise. I bet I've reinstalled windows twice, the bloatware AMD pushes is trash, and it's in general extremely finicky compared to any Intel chip I've ever had. There was a lot of new tech tied up with the release of these chips tho. I helped build a clone of my PC for a friend, and that 7800x3d shit the bed without an OC at idle one day. The RMA process was fine, but they never contacted me to inform me the chip was bad. I had to check back in 2 weeks later after hearing nothing to find out they were out of the 78's and it would be some time before they had replacements... After I nudged them about doing something or refunding they upgraded it to a 7950x3d. Which is cool and all, but if I'd stayed Intel I would have had a lot more uptime and a lot less headache. So, make sure you're making the right move. It's expensive, and I'm probably going to jump back here shortly. I've got a used 9600k with a 3060ti that I would rely on 10x over this setup if it wasn't for tarky. There's nothing but misinformation from people who have no real world experience or are being paid to cherry pick and promote. Intel is right back where they need to be in my opinion. I also never see anyone bench tarky in a way that even begins to show what actual gameplay is like... You almost need to watch twitch streams to see anything close to relevant...
If play many time Tarkov, need only x3d CPU!
Could the huge discrepancy be because ddr4 vs ddr5?
I think you could add 10% on top of my intel w ddr4 numbers at best.
The streamer axel_tv has a fast ddr5 ram kit and doesn't come close to the 9800x3d numbers.
If you go to axel_tv's twitch page to his latest vod, at 01:55:00 you can see his streets performance with ddr5 7800.
@wildgg thanks for the info! Looking to upgrade from 3080ti to 4080 super but this time not go with Intel since last I heard the new intels fry themselves 🤣
yes it could MOST DEFINITELY be the contributor, it is. Tarkov LOVES fast ram.
he'd easily earn 30-40fps more if he ran ddr5.
@@AGENTEN-ry6lr 30-40 is the biggest cope, where are these tarkov performance videos at with that much fps with ddr5? ah right no where.
@@wildgg man i got those numbers on my 1080sup and 13600k you mb need put ddr 5 for this pocessor and try again. Course test need make over 14900 for fair. bla bla bla amd piar,but same turbo bust circus like intel on last micron before 2nm is not real.
13700k ddr5 6400 cl32. I tested the fps in the same street locations as in the video. And i got 10 fps more than i7-14700K with ddr4.
btw the performance of 9800x3d is amazing.
I currently have a 14700k, do you think its worth it swithing to the 9800x3d, my gpu is a RTX 4080S and i havw 64GB ddr5 at 6000mts
As you can see in the video the difference is quite big and it's up to you to decide if that jump is worth it.
When it comes to: is this upgrade worth it? I would say that is up to you and not me, it comes down to if you're happy with the performance you currently getting and if you have the money to spend.
The 'is it worth it' question is really only for you to answer imo. I can say it's worth it because I had the money to spend but others might not have the money to spend on these parts, hopefully that made sense lol..
Here's another video of mine showing gameplay of the 9800X3D: ruclips.net/video/UNk6Rbixg9o/видео.htmlsi=Qim9TtLe1-0QvzR2
Hopefully this helped.
@wildgg yea, thanks man, thankfully money is not an issue for me right now, and those cpu seems really nice
@@wildgg think you could do a test with 9800x3d o. Pve mode solo on lighthouse? Playing as a pmc
@@Matthew.G79 This is on my list but I'm not sure when I have time for it.
@@wildgg alright
Can you do a 9800x3d benchmark on streets? (Online)
I have a 4070 ti super and a 14900kf and I can’t get over 60fps in streets. How do you get that much?
Streets testing in this video was done in Offline with no ai, did you test in offline aswell without ai?
If you tested in PvP your fps kinda makes sense because the zombie events tanks fps.
Your GPU doesn't matter much in Tarkov but this game loves the x3d v cache CPU's forget about Intel for gaming it was the best in 2019 RIP!
I am on a 10850k with 3080 buddy has a 12700k 3080. Both same resolution he pulls way more fps. Other buddy with a 7800x3d and 4070ti super destroys both us. Tarkov LOVES amd's x3d cpu's. I would bet a intel rig with 4090 would pull less fps then a 9800x3d with a 4070ti in tarkov.
@@davidlefranc6240 ok. But hes playing on a similar setup and gerring a lot more fps. And Intel in other games is a beast.
@@gzarrillo Meh its unstable and unreliable it run too hot its not even close to be comparable with the x3d v cache gaming CPU and the new Intel line is not better than the 12 gen sooo yeah the facts are the facts !Go watch hardware unboxed benchmarks and stats !
Ouch. GPU upgrade worth of performance difference in this thing
wtf this ram for 14700k xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD usless test
Thanks! I liked your comparison video as well.
Love play Tarkov? Then only AMD CPU X3D no options! 😁
Not having Streets online is rather disappointing.
I know and I'm sorry but due to the zombie event I felt like it would not be a fair representation especially considering I did not have footage of the 14700K during the zombie event.
you trolling or what? why ram on 14700k is 4000? its decreasing the performance DRASTICALLY, you must have done it intentionally since the STANDARD setting is 4800 and you can even go as high as 8000+, you manipulate showing different ram speeds ffs
No sense... ddr5 Vs ddr4
I did not have a DDR5 board for lga1700 but that doesn't mean the test made no sense as ddr4 4000c18 gear 1 is very capable. A decent DDR5 kit is round 7-10% faster.
Danke fürs Video, aber die Schrift muss kleiner sein.
No problem, thank for checking it out!
I will rework the overlay if that's what you meant!
u didnt have expo enabled on the intel system bro
Correct, I had XMP enabled.
test 4k
Font too small
100%. I was dealing with some bugs regarding the overlay so I reverted to my old one, will create a better one asap!
7800x3d is still king
More like prince
Will go down as one of the greats for sure. Hopefully the price of the 7800X3D can go back down closer to 300, that will make it an awesome CPU for the money.
Thank you. But for the love of God, turn at least Xmp on with the Intel System. lol
It is on.. it's ddr4 4000 C18.
holy moly first!
Intel needs fast DDR5 with good timings, i have 13700k with 7600mhz RAM and get almost the same fps as you with 9800x3d.
no you don't lol
no ahahah
🤣🤡Stop the cope Intel fanboi!
From my experience with Tarkov Intel does scale nicely with faster ram but it's not that extreme.
I highly doubt a 13700k even with 8000mhz ram isn't going to come close to a 7800/9800X3D.
You need to shove 1.65v into a hynix a-die, manually set the timings and sub-timings, test it all in karhu for 24h to make sure its stable. + Lock all the cores
And possibly only then intel chips can compete in 1% and 0.1% low against 7800x3d in tarkov. In this configuration, Intel can indeed win in some games.
But this level of overclocking is something only two people on RUclips mess around with, and neither of them have tested Tarkov 14900k vs 7800x3d.
So we cannot know for sure. But we can know for sure that any Intel XMP speed is not good enough to compete with 7800x3d
And I'm talking about the old X3D. The 9800X3D is a whole different story that does not look good for intel
Pls do rust for god sake
I'm not a rust player at all sorry, I wouldn't know how to test that game correctly.