Wanna see how Ryan finishes this song? Check out his full class on Studio! Follow along as he writes, records, and produces 3 brand new songs from start to finish, right in front of you, explaining everything he’s doing along the way. studio.com/classes/ryan-tedder/art-of-hitmaking
I took this course a couple years back and learned SO much. Highly recommend for anyone that wants to learn production techniques and track building as songwriting tools… If you’re looking for lyric craft, the Shane McAnally course was fantastic. The two combined… 🤯
I think the most important lesson you can take from this is that even experienced people won't know where their creative projects will go. You learn as you go and your work will improve over time if you push through the difficult challenges.
It happens naturally from what you have been putting in your subconscious. This is how I've been writing for years. I'm just so elated to know someone else does the same thing. Lyrics only tell a story while melody express a feeling and a vibe. Love it.
Your comment convinced me lol This was the third of Ryan Tedder's videos on this channel I just watched in the last hour and I think you're probably right 🤘🏼
Amazing songwriter...chart topper...if I'm able to even get 10 songs my whole career on the charts...for artists....I'll feel...happy I accomplished my dream...I'm 60 ...still trying to get there....
Chart topping doesn't equate to quality remember. Maybe some of the nest artists NEVER had one song EVEN Crack the bottom of the charts so maybe that shouldn't be a goal, if I may say. Just saying.
13:00 This is super important - creating different "pockets" for each section. Rythm-wise like Ryan says where you start - but also where you end (his chorus idea and his verse idea ends the same way which is not optimal). Also the internal rythm pattern (e.g focus on straight, dotted or triplets etc) create different pockets. Also making sure the melodies have their own pockets and don't revolve around the same notes, but Ryan already does this instinctually.
Love this class best money I’ve ever spent on a class read tons of books taken classes from Berkeley online ect And this process is DOPE for pop especially
Watching this again. It's so good. There's a subtle but palpable excitement that I see in Ryan as these little lyrical ideas and phrases start to come together. #madtasty
Have always been curious about how people write music and create, ESPECIALLY Ryan... incredible mind who just cranks out hit after hit. Thanks for this video!!
I’ve loved your music for as long as I’ve heard it. When you and One Republic sing, or any of the others you write for. I thought of Maroon 5 from the go. You write for everyone so I’m sure there are days you’re unsure what will pop out. I really loved you on Songland. It was great to hear your process. I know getting a song out doesn’t work like it used go which is great for all this artists with beautiful music that can just offer it up without “the industry” to be TPTB. BUT, I really miss the variety in music so much. Glad you haven’t stopped making your music.
I think something that’s stood out to me about his process is by having the melodies be easily singable to a lot of people like he stated, makes it easier to understand where the kind of guide the peaks of the song. What I mean by this is like the verse kinda stays in a similar range but as he gets to the pre chorus and chorus, there is more variety in his range and in the complexity it may have. It’s a good composing technique allowing the song to build and have a flow moving the line up and down instead of having the melodic ideas stay stagnant the whole time which seems to be a problem for some people from what I’ve noticed over time. I just think it’s funny how he said he can’t explain how he comes up with the melodies but when you actually think about how each section flows together and how to build up the song over time, that can be helpful in making these great melodies he has. Keeping it singable, having the melody always leading forward to the main section, adding more variety at the chorus, keep it more stagnant or in the same range at the verse, using melodic repetition in the verse, etc. Hope this helps someone if they were curious and didn’t know what’s going on lol. That’s my understanding of what he’s doing even tho he said he couldn’t really explain it.
For everyone who is struggling: the true talent in this is that this guy probably plays, sings, hums and creates melodies from a young age continiously, all his life... After so many hours of just writing and composing and creating, you eventually get good at it! It will flow out of you, it will come naturally. I have the same with piano, and it helps me write good songs at lightning speed. We sometimes have singers or rappers in the studio, and when recording/writing, you just feel that these guy have the same talent as in this video... it just clicks....thanks Ryan to show this amazing work flow!
Thanks for sharing this. Ryan is the bomb. It’s not the specific substance of what he showed- it’s the method. Play around, then edit. Melodies are like friends- you spend time hanging out, and good conversation can arise. Sit around singing melodies- the ones you make friends with stick around, and they introduce you to their friends- and that’s when it gets interesting! Another friend gave me this : ART= always rolling tape What Ryan is doing is making friends with melodies, but tracking everything. Then edit!! Part of what makes Ryan stellar is that he’s not just scatting melodies, he’s also dribbling lyrics. Good editing= genius!
I’m hearing Alicia Keys “No One”. This was always my problem with writing, obviously we all used chords others have but the second I recognise a similar song I can’t get the vocal hook out of my head and I feel like I’m stealing. But the Ryan comes up hooks is exactly how do. Only I gave up in the end, he didn’t and succeeded 😂
Question for Ryan (I hope he sees this): When I come up with a melody, the moment I hear a part that sounds like another song, I get frustrated and give up. How do you keep moving forward with a melodic idea when you start hearing melodies from other songs?
Push through it just let it come out, this song was sounding like "Girls Like You" by Maroon 5 but you just keep pushing your idea further until you like it
Like Any Language Music Is also a language with 7 notes (in a song). There can be same notes put together at various instances by different artists. Just it should not sound exact copy of something. For E.g in English Language The Word John can be used by many people to name themselves. There is not a single John in this world. There are so many people. with same name. So if you are having a similar notation in a song for a bar say (Cm, A, G, F) its not an issue.
Bitte mehr Videos davon🎶💫🙌Mir gefällt wie Ryan Tedder arbeitet. Er hat schon gute Ideen in welche Richtung ein Song gehen soll, er hat es ja auch gelernt. Schön zu sehen wie Songs entstehen und gemacht werden, wie er diese zusammen bastelt. Er hat von Anfang an schon eine gute Basis für einen Song geschaffen, seine Arbeitsweise gefällt mir. Ich denke man kann von ihm eine Menge lernen. Er ist sehr Talentiert und seine Arbeitsweise mit anderen Künstlern sehr Produktiv weil er sich auf diese direkt einstellen kann, wie ein Song werden soll auch Ideen von anderen integriert. Aber ich denke bei der Online Class ist die Zeit einfach zu kurz und als Anfänger sollte man mit einem Musikprogramm umgehen können. Ärgerlich ist auch wenn man sich nicht alles leisten kann, was für die Produktion gebraucht wird. Welches Musikprogramm hat Ryan Tedder? Ich würde das Video über den Song Waves🎶🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙂auch gerne sehen, wie dieser entstanden ist, weil dieser Song schon interessanter ist, meiner Meinung nach. Ich würde beide Songs veröffentlichen🎶💫🙌Ich wäre auch gerne bei der Online Class dabei gewesen wenn mein Englisch nicht so schlecht wäre. Schade😔Eine Meinung
You didn’t happen to write Stay The Night by James Blunt did you Ryan? Whole video I kept getting reminded of it. Can’t pin it down, but there’s a resemblance. Anyhow; struggling songwriters/producers, singing is a big key factor to understanding production as well. It relieves stress too. Go for it
Many people commenting about how this instantly jammed song melodic ideas sounding like songs from other artists should understand that he is showing how a songwriter can derive idea for a melody from an exercise such as this. This is a tutorial for heaven's sake 😊. He is showing one of a work flow to get the songwriting process going on and not bad that he is slamming some nice hooks and melodies in the process. Really appreciate 👏 for the video.
The Spector of every songwriter, ‘ is this something already out there?’ Even McCartney asked people if they had heard the melody of Yesterday having woken with it in his head.
I think he used AutoTune Live and CLA Vocals for this (it's what I see in his plugin), but maybe that in combination with the Universal Audio realtime plugins (not sure if he uses this)
Its like a genius tries to tell you its easy just follow these steps, but in reality he is incredibly knowledgeable and creates melodies not based on a formula but on his knowledge. So if you want to be like him…. Nah you cant bro
I thought its a u 87ai but looked it up and its a U67 very nice mic. I think they are like 10k apparently its the only one he records with for like his whole career
Wanna see how Ryan finishes this song? Check out his full class on Studio! Follow along as he writes, records, and produces 3 brand new songs from start to finish, right in front of you, explaining everything he’s doing along the way. studio.com/classes/ryan-tedder/art-of-hitmaking
The second melody can be used as a bridge and with the ending with 1st melody
I took this course a couple years back and learned SO much. Highly recommend for anyone that wants to learn production techniques and track building as songwriting tools…
If you’re looking for lyric craft, the Shane McAnally course was fantastic. The two combined… 🤯
Nice work.I get 'Hey soul sister' vibes from Train
Does he also show how to mix the vocals? they sound so good
I think the most important lesson you can take from this is that even experienced people won't know where their creative projects will go. You learn as you go and your work will improve over time if you push through the difficult challenges.
It happens naturally from what you have been putting in your subconscious. This is how I've been writing for years. I'm just so elated to know someone else does the same thing. Lyrics only tell a story while melody express a feeling and a vibe. Love it.
Best songwriting class I ever took! Highly recommend it to anyone of any level. It levels up your game like crazy
What other songwriting class have u done?
$500 is crazy thoo
@@iamwhoiam506 how much did u spend on it
@@limon.9575apparently its on sale for $300 😂
Your comment convinced me lol
This was the third of Ryan Tedder's videos on this channel I just watched in the last hour and I think you're probably right 🤘🏼
Amazing songwriter...chart topper...if I'm able to even get 10 songs my whole career on the charts...for artists....I'll feel...happy I accomplished my dream...I'm 60 ...still trying to get there....
He passed amazing in 2008
Wheres ur music
Keep pushing on !
Chart topping doesn't equate to quality remember. Maybe some of the nest artists NEVER had one song EVEN Crack the bottom of the charts so maybe that shouldn't be a goal, if I may say. Just saying.
better get started homie
13:00 This is super important - creating different "pockets" for each section. Rythm-wise like Ryan says where you start - but also where you end (his chorus idea and his verse idea ends the same way which is not optimal). Also the internal rythm pattern (e.g focus on straight, dotted or triplets etc) create different pockets. Also making sure the melodies have their own pockets and don't revolve around the same notes, but Ryan already does this instinctually.
This definitely sold me on Studio. This 20 minute video has more info then a lot of other things I’ve seen in the past
The level of experience and talent that he has is insane
Love this class best money I’ve ever spent on a class read tons of books taken classes from
Berkeley online ect
And this process is DOPE for pop especially
Watching this again. It's so good. There's a subtle but palpable excitement that I see in Ryan as these little lyrical ideas and phrases start to come together. #madtasty
definitely one of best investments i’ve made in myself. take the class!!!!
effortlessly creates an instant hit! amazing to watch
I wanna see bro's vocal chain- sounds great
I love to see a GOAT working and being authentic!!
Have always been curious about how people write music and create, ESPECIALLY Ryan... incredible mind who just cranks out hit after hit. Thanks for this video!!
They recycle the same melodies over and over and can barely play the instruments they own. This guy is doing very basic things with his music.
2 mins in with gibberish I feel like it’s a hit 😂🙌 He’s amazing
Thank you so much for sharing your process!
always so good to see this genius working!!❤️🥰
I’ve loved your music for as long as I’ve heard it. When you and One Republic sing, or any of the others you write for. I thought of Maroon 5 from the go. You write for everyone so I’m sure there are days you’re unsure what will pop out. I really loved you on Songland. It was great to hear your process. I know getting a song out doesn’t work like it used go which is great for all this artists with beautiful music that can just offer it up without “the industry” to be TPTB. BUT, I really miss the variety in music so much. Glad you haven’t stopped making your music.
Thanks so much for sharing this process. Really love seeing you work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think something that’s stood out to me about his process is by having the melodies be easily singable to a lot of people like he stated, makes it easier to understand where the kind of guide the peaks of the song. What I mean by this is like the verse kinda stays in a similar range but as he gets to the pre chorus and chorus, there is more variety in his range and in the complexity it may have. It’s a good composing technique allowing the song to build and have a flow moving the line up and down instead of having the melodic ideas stay stagnant the whole time which seems to be a problem for some people from what I’ve noticed over time.
I just think it’s funny how he said he can’t explain how he comes up with the melodies but when you actually think about how each section flows together and how to build up the song over time, that can be helpful in making these great melodies he has.
Keeping it singable, having the melody always leading forward to the main section, adding more variety at the chorus, keep it more stagnant or in the same range at the verse, using melodic repetition in the verse, etc.
Hope this helps someone if they were curious and didn’t know what’s going on lol. That’s my understanding of what he’s doing even tho he said he couldn’t really explain it.
Best songwriting production course I ever did was Ryan Tedder's!! : )
I'd like to see these tracks composed into a final take and a mix.
This comment in underrated.
Just buy the Masterclass then :)
For everyone who is struggling: the true talent in this is that this guy probably plays, sings, hums and creates melodies from a young age continiously, all his life... After so many hours of just writing and composing and creating, you eventually get good at it! It will flow out of you, it will come naturally. I have the same with piano, and it helps me write good songs at lightning speed. We sometimes have singers or rappers in the studio, and when recording/writing, you just feel that these guy have the same talent as in this video... it just clicks....thanks Ryan to show this amazing work flow!
Every Melody he was just trying was 🔥 📛 👨🚒 🚒 🧯
this is amazing. Sounds like a maroon 5 pitch
Yep, his prechorus already borrows the "Girls Like You" melody.
@YosefRosenfield he's written multiple maroon 5 songs
this demo is a mix of Girls Like You and Count On Me by Bruno Mars.
@@NoWokeComedyI hear Maroon 5 & Jason Mraz.
definitely some Hey, Soul Sister influence there, too.
this part right there opened my eyes
Thanks for sharing this. Ryan is the bomb. It’s not the specific substance of what he showed- it’s the method.
Play around, then edit. Melodies are like friends- you spend time hanging out, and good conversation can arise.
Sit around singing melodies- the ones you make friends with stick around, and they introduce you to their friends- and that’s when it gets interesting!
Another friend gave me this :
ART= always rolling tape
What Ryan is doing is making friends with melodies, but tracking everything. Then edit!!
Part of what makes Ryan stellar is that he’s not just scatting melodies, he’s also dribbling lyrics.
Good editing= genius!
I love that!! I will now work with that mindset
this man just made a hit for fun 💀😂😂🔥
I always wanted to see the magic of making music. Thank you, Ryan, so much, I love you.
Such a sweet comment, I hope you have a good day!
@All Kings Fall - Motivation 🫠thank you
One word...TALENT!
This is incredible.
A big smile. Very interesting to listen to. It is science..for sure..🙂 .
Lot of work too.
Appreciate you man 🙏🏾❤️ i learned from u alot. 🙏🏾
This mam is really legendary... i just listened to his last release... mirage
Thanks for sharing this!
He might not have had the lyrics but that tra k was pretty well foamed.. spit ballin! Lol!
the end result of this song was pretty dope!
I’m hearing Alicia Keys “No One”. This was always my problem with writing, obviously we all used chords others have but the second I recognise a similar song I can’t get the vocal hook out of my head and I feel like I’m stealing. But the Ryan comes up hooks is exactly how do. Only I gave up in the end, he didn’t and succeeded 😂
This actually reminds me of “I’m Yours” by Jason Mraz
@@andreafedericopieri First thing I thought was “I need a girl like you” by Maroon 5. Maybe more the Chorus.
@@andreafedericopieri definitely, the upstroke focused strum is very similar.
The verse reminds me of a Gavin Degraw song . I know Ryan wrote with him on few songs.
I wish we were in the studio it would be finished by now
My favorite line was "I don't mind your Macho baby" 😂
Lol
😂😂😂
I loved you on That's My Jam!!!! omg
Question for Ryan (I hope he sees this):
When I come up with a melody, the moment I hear a part that sounds like another song, I get frustrated and give up. How do you keep moving forward with a melodic idea when you start hearing melodies from other songs?
Keep developing that idea, and if it still sounds like the other thing, scrap it. You always have more melodies in you!
Push through it just let it come out, this song was sounding like "Girls Like You" by Maroon 5 but you just keep pushing your idea further until you like it
There will almost always be fragments of other people's melodies in your melodies.
Like Any Language Music Is also a language with 7 notes (in a song). There can be same notes put together at various instances by different artists. Just it should not sound exact copy of something. For E.g in English Language The Word John can be used by many people to name themselves. There is not a single John in this world. There are so many people. with same name. So if you are having a similar notation in a song for a bar say (Cm, A, G, F) its not an issue.
I can't wait to work with him.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
very cool
Bitte mehr Videos davon🎶💫🙌Mir gefällt wie Ryan Tedder arbeitet. Er hat schon gute Ideen in welche Richtung ein Song gehen soll, er hat es ja auch gelernt. Schön zu sehen wie Songs entstehen und gemacht werden, wie er diese zusammen bastelt. Er hat von Anfang an schon eine gute Basis für einen Song geschaffen, seine Arbeitsweise gefällt mir. Ich denke man kann von ihm eine Menge lernen. Er ist sehr Talentiert und seine Arbeitsweise mit anderen Künstlern sehr Produktiv weil er sich auf diese direkt einstellen kann, wie ein Song werden soll auch Ideen von anderen integriert. Aber ich denke bei der Online Class ist die Zeit einfach zu kurz und als Anfänger sollte man mit einem Musikprogramm umgehen können. Ärgerlich ist auch wenn man sich nicht alles leisten kann, was für die Produktion gebraucht wird. Welches Musikprogramm hat Ryan Tedder? Ich würde das Video über den Song Waves🎶🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙂auch gerne sehen, wie dieser entstanden ist, weil dieser Song schon interessanter ist, meiner Meinung nach. Ich würde beide Songs veröffentlichen🎶💫🙌Ich wäre auch gerne bei der Online Class dabei gewesen wenn mein Englisch nicht so schlecht wäre. Schade😔Eine Meinung
Ну ты и молодец
You didn’t happen to write Stay The Night by James Blunt did you Ryan? Whole video I kept getting reminded of it. Can’t pin it down, but there’s a resemblance. Anyhow; struggling songwriters/producers, singing is a big key factor to understanding production as well. It relieves stress too. Go for it
Do you not get sick of trying to topline 1564s all the time? (the 'axis' chord progression)
1564…every pop song ever written. This is Girls Like You, I’m Yours, and Hey Soul Sister all rolled into one amalgamation…melodically and chordally.
Jason Mraz, Maroon 5, etc. It all sounds the same. Where is the surprise? Don't get me wrong. I respect Ryan Tedder immensely.
Emotionless shopping mall music = $$$
its genius but predictable and boring to me
This.
@@CharlieBravo887he’s trying to write something good (obviously) but that’s extremely difficult
I think I just watched a genius at work! 👌
This was sick
"But I don't mind your macho baby" Love that. 4:27
Nice work
Just fucking WOW, Ryan! Kudos, man! Lots of love~
Many people commenting about how this instantly jammed song melodic ideas sounding like songs from other artists should understand that he is showing how a songwriter can derive idea for a melody from an exercise such as this.
This is a tutorial for heaven's sake 😊.
He is showing one of a work flow to get the songwriting process going on and not bad that he is slamming some nice hooks and melodies in the process.
Really appreciate 👏 for the video.
Ryan's pre here is the same as the Girls Like You chorus from Maroon 5
But also kinda like I’m yours
@@FedoraRose Yeah, it's all I V vi IV chord progression.
The Spector of every songwriter, ‘ is this something already out there?’
Even McCartney asked people if they had heard the melody of Yesterday having woken with it in his head.
Anywhere we can find his starting vocal fx?
a lil late but cla-vocals by waves and the preset face to face dry. And then just autotune
How the hell his just recorded vocals sound like it's the actual song?
Quality mic an his plug ins 🤗
CLA VOCALLLLLLS
The Best! Thanks Ryan! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 Portugal!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Might not take a month obviously but i will let you know when I have confidence in the lyrics
Ryan Tedder is such an Inspiration ♥
Vocal chain please ? Specifically what’s the double plug in
What is the “AT Live” plugin right before CLA Vocals?
Auto tune
@@davidtrig I cant believe I didn’t piece that together lol
That's amazing!!
🎼🎧🎶🎼🎶🎧
Fantastic!
Thank you! Cheers!
Would be cool for you all to do a jazzy blues song
man you produce exactly like i do, maybe i should take this music thing more seriously hahah, good insight here!
Love this. Great video.
Please release this song for OneRepublic!!!!
Way too low quality a song.
Legend! Slightly underrated maybe…
How you make good melodies: "I just freestyle and my brain spits out perfect melodies, thank you all for watching"
Great video Ryan!!! Just one question, what plugins did you use for your vocals?
I think he used AutoTune Live and CLA Vocals for this (it's what I see in his plugin), but maybe that in combination with the Universal Audio realtime plugins (not sure if he uses this)
wow interesting and inspiring
anyone knows if he teaches how to mix these vocals? they sound great
whats the make of that boom arm stand
Lyrics please.
braboaaaaao!!!!!!
Did he finished this song? Where can I find it?
I've never heard of someone be able to write melodies like that. Ryan and I share the same gift!
That’s the way I write as well!
@@zackjasper4230 from what I've gathered we are very rare
@@jakestagg that’s so sick!!
Hmm it’s fairly standard for us songwriters
@@roberthchapman well I guess that means we’re doing something right!
Me encanta grac
Nice
Jason Mraz (in a different key, different tempo and lyrics). Still good to learn from!
Bellisimo vrac
Is it a sad love song or a happy song knowing the singer has moved on?
Pitch this melody to Jason Mraz-he'll sound fantastic on it! :D :)
Its like a genius tries to tell you its easy just follow these steps, but in reality he is incredibly knowledgeable and creates melodies not based on a formula but on his knowledge. So if you want to be like him…. Nah you cant bro
Yeah you can... But to have his timbre and his tenor vocal range, You gotta have from birth.
@@RobRuffMusic i agree you can have his timbre and vocal range, but not his imagination. Agreed?
Any one can create melody’s it’s all In the music you listen to , you just have to pull it out of you
what is the music software used in the video?
pretty sure it's Pro Tools
@@musicophileph thanks for the answer
somehow I keep thinking of "hey soul sister"
What is the program he is using ?
That is Pro Tools
Anyone know what that mic is?
I thought its a u 87ai but looked it up and its a U67 very nice mic. I think they are like 10k apparently its the only one he records with for like his whole career
how can I microton effect. Sound is perfect. How can I make effects in microfon recording
“If I shift this anymore to the right, no pun intended, it’s gonna feel more country” 😂😂😂
I wonder how he picks the track his going to use.
Mind if I change the words but the tune stuck definitely
Did you noticed that almost everytime he comes up with a phrase he just duplicates it again?!
Me just sitting here hoping this becomes a OneRepublic song.
Wow
WHAT IS THIS SONG
check out the full class on Studio to find out!!