I came to check out how you found out the coin was fake from your other video where you broke the seal and drilled it. Thanks for providing the link. Subscriptions kinda work out to help not miss a video. 😊👍🏽
If I can't run the code, I won't spend money to buy the coin. period. I understand what your saying, but I won't send money to anyone if i can't verify the coin first.
No I always wondered how the RFID worked on those slabs. Good to know that you can use an app to verify maybe it's time for me to go through my collection of Morgan's.
I honestly couldn’t tell which were which face down or face up. What I did notice once you said which one were which that on the real ones the barcode was flush to the bottom, and on the fake ones the barcode had a little space at the bottom. Now I don’t know if that was coincidence but it’s what I noticed. Thank you for pointing out the difference in label color and the embossed on the bottom of the slab. It gives me something else to look for. Great video, thank you. 👍
#1 appeared to have fake wear to me. #3 looked too shiny to me, as if it was new or in very good condition, and I figured no one would pay alot of money for a graded coin without due diligence.
At first, they all looked legit except for #3, the reason for it was because the cartwheel luster on it was too crisp if that makes sense. But after you turned it, the label on #1 and #3 looked fake, and the fact that #3 was CC kinda suspect because they’re usually faked more often
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That security feature is pretty recent, but there were other tell-tale signs of this being fake besides that. I pointed out many of them in this video.
Another thing I learned was that the 1881 cc would not have the word MORGAN since it was the only silver dollar at the time… the only morgans with that word would be the 1921’s because there were other silver dollars being the peace dollar in that year. Also a pcgs should be on the lower right corner on a real one. thanks for this info… Its so helpful to collectors!… to counterfeit is death.
Got it right. Doesn't make me feel good, since I have a gold bar and a coin I think might be fake. Bar was bought at a local coin shop, the coin at SGB (large CDN online dealer). Hope to have them checked out at some point, no one around here as the tools to properly check it.
#1 & #3 based on the way the labels look. Edit: yes, the edges you caught. I could see the label didn’t go under the plastic. Like it’s a sticker after the fact. That’s what prompted me at the beginning to say 1 & 3.
Side by side I could tell which were the fake slabs, but if I just saw one by itself, I might not think anything of it... might be time to go revisit all the slabs I've bought!
Psa does the same thing with their cards there will always always be a little psa logo in the bottom right corner if its not there its fake. This is literally one of the best security features and i have never seen a fake slab with it on a holder. Since its into the plastic its very hard to replicate. But i have a real good trained eye at spotting counterfeit items.
Such a sad shame that people go the distance to rip people off! If they took that negative energy to do something positive, maybe they would succeed. They damn sure got close to getting away with the scam, really sad that someone paid for the lesson tho.
1 and 3? I answered before he said anything but I guessed on the color of the coins not the PCGS! I was going to erase it and only guess 4 but then he said what was fake
looking at the holders only 2 of them are embossed with pcgs in the bottom corner. although I thought pcgs did a gold shield with gold coins. I'm going to go with the Stone MT and the CC are fakes
I don't like the look of #1 and #3. The stickers don't fit in their slot in the slab well. They also lack detailing of the pcgs logo and gold shield as part of the plastic slab mold, despite the fact that they have the shield label on the back sticker.
Pirate stacker made a video 2days ago about fakes and yes if u search on pcgs website and If the last numbers dont come out it then there fake.. yes I totally agree with silver seeker about fakes and slabs alot of fakes out there glad I watched this video and learned about numismatics..
I guessed correctly but I just got lucky😂. I have the PCGS app and scan the slabs with the bar code and the NFC tag. Thanks for the informative video. I definitely learned a few things.
i don't buy slabs cause of the those who would fake them. raw coins are cheaper and easier to test. sad the collectors have test everything these days.
Completely random guess. Coin 4 I really couldn’t see. And was the most obvious choice, therefore making it a non-choice. So it was either 1 and 2, 1 and 3 or 2 and 3. So I choose the only every other one available to me.
The counterfeiters will continue to improve their crap regardless of videos like this my friend. I think it's important to show people what to look for so that they can protect themselves.
@@SilverSeeker I understand the point. I get why educating folks is important. But I also understand that agencies like Law Enforcement run into the same issues. Educating the public on their methods of finding evidence and processing it educates criminals on it as well and they then can figure out how to avoid it. At some point the only way to detect a fake coin will be on a machine that can read metal content and quality. Each video I have seen means the folks in China and elsewhere ALSO see it and can deal with that issue. One video I saw on this subject the only the way the host could definitively show the coin was fake WAS the machine. Magnetic test passed, weight check passed, size test passed. Visual check passed. I didn't see him try a ping test though. While your video is fine to educate folks now. You can help people today and in the next few weeks and maybe months. All that has really been accomplished in long term is you have sped up the process of getting to high quality mass produced fake coins into the market.
It feels like we're not that far away from there being serious problems, like in the magic community you have to worry about replaced cards, fake labels, and even fake cards getting real grades because of untrained graders. And that's on top of the extreme variance in the grading itself, where you can just resubmit cards and depending on the time of day, get a different grade.
Great info !
Good content. Keeping your community educated. Thanks to your subscriber who shared these fakes.
Thanks for the great Video!
Very Helpful!
Very cool video! Thanks for the knowledge!
Great information thanks.
Great video Seeker, thanks for the info.
great knowledge that you passed along, thank you
Great info, thanks Seeker! 👍
Good video thanks for the info.
Thanks to both of yall for this. Keep learning
Thanks for the info very interesting
Thanks for the info
This was a great helpful video thank you do more!
Great video! Thanks for doing this.
Awesome video ! 👍
Thanks to you and to your subscriber both for the good education. I'm new to this and it's excellent to learn how to spot the important details.
Excellent video!
Thanks for the education
Very interesting video and I learnt a lot from this! Much appreciated. Great Video!
Great video
Really like the info good to know sense I’m still a rookie at this, especially when it comes slabbed coins. And your giveaway looks awesome!
Great video.
Thank You Sir.
Cool video man! I liked guessing which 2 were the fakes.
Very interesting your video I liked so much, there's any change NGC has similar to detect fake coins?
I came to check out how you found out the coin was fake from your other video where you broke the seal and drilled it.
Thanks for providing the link. Subscriptions kinda work out to help not miss a video. 😊👍🏽
I absolutely could not tell from looking at the backs. Thanks for the education!
I knew by the gold shield on the back thanks for sharing
A great educational video for us all. Thanks for sharing this one with us!
This is why you cover the barcodes when you post slabs for sale. People will grab the code off of a real one and create counterfeit
If I can't run the code, I won't spend money to buy the coin. period. I understand what your saying, but I won't send money to anyone if i can't verify the coin first.
@@philmckracken1354 agreed. If I see someone selling a coin and the cert information is covered I’m moving on.
@@philmckracken1354 This is quite a quandary. Kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Very True ! Perfect ! You Nail it !
Very informative for us, very unfortunate for buyer.
Let's get with that GAW! You'll make it very quick!
No I always wondered how the RFID worked on those slabs. Good to know that you can use an app to verify maybe it's time for me to go through my collection of Morgan's.
Sorry about the buyers losses, but I enjoy watching videos like this to learn more. Thanks
Best place to learn
As always it's been a pleasure
I honestly couldn’t tell which were which face down or face up. What I did notice once you said which one were which that on the real ones the barcode was flush to the bottom, and on the fake ones the barcode had a little space at the bottom.
Now I don’t know if that was coincidence but it’s what I noticed.
Thank you for pointing out the difference in label color and the embossed on the bottom of the slab. It gives me something else to look for.
Great video, thank you. 👍
#1 appeared to have fake wear to me. #3 looked too shiny to me, as if it was new or in very good condition, and I figured no one would pay alot of money for a graded coin without due diligence.
At first, they all looked legit except for #3, the reason for it was because the cartwheel luster on it was too crisp if that makes sense. But after you turned it, the label on #1 and #3 looked fake, and the fact that #3 was CC kinda suspect because they’re usually faked more often
I got the CC right but figured either the other Morgan or the gold w didn’t even think about out the Stone Mountain as one of the fakes
Thank you SD bullion I can't believe that I'm the winner I really needed this for me and my family and I'm going to put it all the good use once again thank you so much SD bullion!!!!! For everyone thinking that this was a scam, or just a ploy to get people to check ✔ out their channel 🤔 let me tell you it's completely real and I'll be posting pictures and videos showing everyone how real it was. After everything is all said and done I'm going to collect around $20,000.00 in cold Hard Cash 💸
I'm going to put half in my checking account and the other $10,000.00 I'm going to put into pure GOLD coins or bars i can't decide what exactly I'm going to do.
The cert numbers for the 2 fakes were good initially- PCGS removed the certs after the counterfeits started being reported...
the "PCGS" logo is missing in the lower right corner in the plastic slab. That's how I spotted it.
I guessed right before video even started
Where do you get the pvm scanner
I got the coins right. the fake coins looked off, The slabs fooled me.Thanks for the video.
I look for flaws on coins on pcgs and ngc sites then look 4 them on the coin for sale
Hey, I got it right before you flipped them. Cool.
O may be the center two.
I couldn’t tell at first but I did notice the real ones do have the PCGs Logo in the plastic on the real ones
How about if it was graded before the PCGS tags came out. When was that particular security feature first used?
That security feature is pretty recent, but there were other tell-tale signs of this being fake besides that. I pointed out many of them in this video.
Another thing I learned was that the 1881 cc would not have the word MORGAN since it was the only silver dollar at the time… the only morgans with that word would be the 1921’s because there were other silver dollars being the peace dollar in that year. Also a pcgs should be on the lower right corner on a real one. thanks for this info… Its so helpful to collectors!… to counterfeit is death.
Guess 1&3 , don't have a clue, 3 looks too clean,
Also the real cases have PCGS on the plastic cases at the bottom right.
Stone Mountain has to one of them so many fakes out there
Got it right. Doesn't make me feel good, since I have a gold bar and a coin I think might be fake. Bar was bought at a local coin shop, the coin at SGB (large CDN online dealer). Hope to have them checked out at some point, no one around here as the tools to properly check it.
Too many crooks in collectibles!
Even the Serial Number is the same on genuine Holder ! This is the Way they Do it now !
2 and 3 at first and then when you flipped them over, 1 and 3
#1 & #3 based on the way the labels look. Edit: yes, the edges you caught. I could see the label didn’t go under the plastic. Like it’s a sticker after the fact. That’s what prompted me at the beginning to say 1 & 3.
Great info. Sadly we have to be that careful...
Are all the modern PCGS rated coins including a nfc tag? Do you have to pay extra for that or is that part of the service?
Honestly I could tell from the reverse as the silicon coin holder that touches the coin on the fake ones look like plastic and not silicon rubber.
Side by side I could tell which were the fake slabs, but if I just saw one by itself, I might not think anything of it... might be time to go revisit all the slabs I've bought!
Ones out to the sides.
1 & 3. They don’t have the pcgs logo and chip logo on the bottom front corners.
Psa does the same thing with their cards there will always always be a little psa logo in the bottom right corner if its not there its fake. This is literally one of the best security features and i have never seen a fake slab with it on a holder. Since its into the plastic its very hard to replicate. But i have a real good trained eye at spotting counterfeit items.
I am guessing 2 and 4
I picked the right ones by their look on the reverse.
Such a sad shame that people go the distance to rip people off! If they took that negative energy to do something positive, maybe they would succeed. They damn sure got close to getting away with the scam, really sad that someone paid for the lesson tho.
Surprised someone would fake a stone mountain
Where and how much is your pro mini
Plus I don’t think pcgs puts the name of the coin on the labels
Good Call LOL!
I think 2 and 3
1 and 3? I answered before he said anything but I guessed on the color of the coins not the PCGS! I was going to erase it and only guess 4 but then he said what was fake
The coins themselves weren't right.
Yet another reason to avoid slabbed coins. Buy the coin, not the plastic!
I can't see the coins on this small phone.
I'm going to assume by the holders 1 & 3
Hello Silver Seeker
1and 2 I guessed before you turned them over I was half right
It is really easy to identify cuz I have seen a lot of fake PCGS coins in China.
Now 1&3
looking at the holders only 2 of them are embossed with pcgs in the bottom corner. although I thought pcgs did a gold shield with gold coins. I'm going to go with the Stone MT and the CC are fakes
They also don't put the word morgan on any of the morgans other than 1921.
3 and 4 after the flip 1 and 3
I don't like the look of #1 and #3. The stickers don't fit in their slot in the slab well. They also lack detailing of the pcgs logo and gold shield as part of the plastic slab mold, despite the fact that they have the shield label on the back sticker.
Pirate stacker made a video 2days ago about fakes and yes if u search on pcgs website and If the last numbers dont come out it then there fake.. yes I totally agree with silver seeker about fakes and slabs alot of fakes out there glad I watched this video and learned about numismatics..
My is guess is #2 and #4 are fake because of the color of PGCS logo and the coins looks too good
Can't see close
I guessed correctly but I just got lucky😂. I have the PCGS app and scan the slabs with the bar code and the NFC tag. Thanks for the informative video. I definitely learned a few things.
I wouldn't even consider stacking without having a Sigma. There's just WAY too many fakes out there, especially on Ebay.
i don't buy slabs cause of the those who would fake them.
raw coins are cheaper and easier to test.
sad the collectors have test everything these days.
1 and 3
Completely random guess. Coin 4 I really couldn’t see. And was the most obvious choice, therefore making it a non-choice. So it was either 1 and 2, 1 and 3 or 2 and 3. So I choose the only every other one available to me.
While it is awesome that you are sharing this, it is also an educational guide for the counterfeiters to "get it right" next time.
The counterfeiters will continue to improve their crap regardless of videos like this my friend. I think it's important to show people what to look for so that they can protect themselves.
@@SilverSeeker I understand the point. I get why educating folks is important. But I also understand that agencies like Law Enforcement run into the same issues. Educating the public on their methods of finding evidence and processing it educates criminals on it as well and they then can figure out how to avoid it. At some point the only way to detect a fake coin will be on a machine that can read metal content and quality. Each video I have seen means the folks in China and elsewhere ALSO see it and can deal with that issue. One video I saw on this subject the only the way the host could definitively show the coin was fake WAS the machine. Magnetic test passed, weight check passed, size test passed. Visual check passed. I didn't see him try a ping test though. While your video is fine to educate folks now. You can help people today and in the next few weeks and maybe months. All that has really been accomplished in long term is you have sped up the process of getting to high quality mass produced fake coins into the market.
It feels like we're not that far away from there being serious problems, like in the magic community you have to worry about replaced cards, fake labels, and even fake cards getting real grades because of untrained graders. And that's on top of the extreme variance in the grading itself, where you can just resubmit cards and depending on the time of day, get a different grade.
2 and 1 are tack?
1 and 4. My guess.
I had a couped of fakes I bought off Amazon returned them
1 an 3 I think 🤔
I found my 4O% silver half dollars I have 120 of which 100 are AU with rainbow toning I think over 70 can grade ms68 1966-1970