KRAV MAGA TRAINING • How to survive a Knife attack (part 2 of 4)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @johnearl6720
    @johnearl6720 7 лет назад +39

    one of the biggest mistakes of many instructors and senseis is not to explain the reason of each movement when defending. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @igoroliveira5463
    @igoroliveira5463 10 лет назад +24

    This videos are reeealy damn good. This is the best krav maga channel in youtube.

  • @theKravMagaTraining
    @theKravMagaTraining  7 лет назад +15

    *ARE YOU ABLE TO TRANSLATE THIS VIDEO IN YOUR OWN LANGUAGE?*
    *Help us to spread this content: just clic on " ●●● " (over the "Subscribe" botton) and then clic "Add Translations".*
    *You can translate just Title & Description or also the Subtitles. We'll be grateful for every single word translated.*

    • @uno2837
      @uno2837 7 лет назад

      yep

    • @JoseMartinez-ef5us
      @JoseMartinez-ef5us 3 года назад

      I will try in Spanish, but I'm very busy currently. But I will when I have the time to dedicate to it.

  • @LightInTheNight1337
    @LightInTheNight1337 10 лет назад +77

    This is really great. I know you can't learn Krav Maga on the Internet but if you train somewhere like me, these videos can be really helpful. My instructors don't explain nearly as much as you do :) Keep up the good work.

    • @goldsilverandiamonds
      @goldsilverandiamonds 10 лет назад +21

      Get a new instructor, they should. They should also encourage you to ask questions and try out different approaches and ideas based on what you are being taught. This is how you learn.

  • @ElisabettaKohen
    @ElisabettaKohen 9 лет назад

    Ottimo video ragazzi,bravi. Il vostro è il canale più serio per quanto riguarda il KM che io abbia mai conosciuto su youtube, bravi!

  • @Thurgor_Supreme
    @Thurgor_Supreme 10 лет назад +63

    I watch a *LOT* of bullshit on youtube, but this stuff is invaluable. Thank you so much for this channel and the videos you post.

  • @theKravMagaTraining
    @theKravMagaTraining  8 лет назад +116

    *QUESTION:*
    *Often stabbings happen in your own home, as a result of quarrels between husband and wife, or between family members.*
    *Perhaps you think you can run like Usain Bolt, if you are in a corner of your kitchen? A lot of women die this way, and their killers are not ninja warriors, think about it.*

    • @quattro6371
      @quattro6371 8 лет назад +4

      u have to fight

    • @puraolimpiareyesgonzalez2714
      @puraolimpiareyesgonzalez2714 7 лет назад +1

      quattro Este deporte es bien entretenldo . Pura .

    • @echogaybaldfith7466
      @echogaybaldfith7466 7 лет назад +1

      KRAV MAGA TRAINING true

    • @XTrEMeBeARsFaN
      @XTrEMeBeARsFaN 7 лет назад +4

      KRAV MAGA TRAINING
      that's why I think it's a great idea for people to train in a safe realistic fast pace. Almost like the equivalent of slap boxing because the truth is all attacks are improvised and random. I like the videos on this channel for sure. This is a good demonstration of proper movement to control the situation.

    • @sebi669
      @sebi669 7 лет назад

      Thank´s...Respect^^

  • @JLS76AmAu
    @JLS76AmAu 2 года назад +2

    Awesome!! Show us more techniques .

  • @alexyounger5779
    @alexyounger5779 7 лет назад +1

    Very good technique and great teacher. Much more realistic than some of the shit on the internet where you're trying to grab a moving knife.

  • @ApricotData474
    @ApricotData474 7 лет назад

    Awesome demonstration, so pretty much block, wrist control and close the distance, bend arm

  • @TheLogicalBeast
    @TheLogicalBeast 10 лет назад +4

    It would've been nice if you explained at 7:20 what would you do if you can't throw your attacker to the ground (for example he's too big/heavy to carry). Otherwise good tutorial vid, I'm looking forward to part 3. :)

  • @Baseketballify
    @Baseketballify 9 лет назад +1

    This is great stuff. He's essentially performing a 2-on-1, from MMA/wrestling speak. You control the wrist and upper arm, adjacent to the shoulder with both hands, then attack, attack, attack/disarm the knife. Saw that highlighted in another knife defense video. One thing I haven't heard them say in this is be prepared to get stabbed or sliced. This is not the movies. The attacker may slice your arm or stab you and you won't even realize it until after you have disarmed the attacker. I recall in this same video I watched -- don't remember the name of it -- where the guy teaching it said that he got stabbed/slashed 10 times and didn't even realize until after he fought off and disarmed the attacker. I guess that's why the idea is to survive. Nobody ever said you'll get away unscathed.

  • @l.jturner6617
    @l.jturner6617 8 лет назад +22

    7:20
    Could I... perform a belly to back suplex at that point???

  • @Bighnarajsarangi
    @Bighnarajsarangi 6 лет назад +5

    You are requested to give the subtitles in black colour. Because what you are giving cannot be seen in bare eyes

  • @martialarts7547
    @martialarts7547 10 лет назад

    ottime tecniche spiegate molto bene come sempre difesa da coltello pero e molto complessa e richiede anni di pratica

  • @hailstorm711
    @hailstorm711 10 лет назад +2

    Great videos. Keep them coming.

  • @mikevonsinister3489
    @mikevonsinister3489 7 лет назад +6

    good tips. from someone that's been stabbed, it's good to have at least a frame of reference to on. I was lucky enough to disarm the aggressor and hold him until the 5-0 showed up, but he literally just missed the blood pipe in my leg. talk about an adrenaline rush.

  • @antoniodamico2750
    @antoniodamico2750 6 лет назад +2

    Il video è spiegato bene, ma io che lavoro in strada e comunque sono allenato, posso dire che un conto è un allenamento, un conto è la strada e i fattori son molteplici. Altezza, peso, e altro ancora per quanto concerne l'aggressore

  • @sanjaykumarsingh3565
    @sanjaykumarsingh3565 2 года назад +2

    I want to learn krav maga did you teach me?

  • @bonusrege
    @bonusrege 4 месяца назад

    Trzeba dodać, że w tej walce i tak zostaniesz raniony. Możesz tylko ograniczyć swoje straty. Jako żołnierze mieliśmy opatrunki osobiste do tamowania krwotoku.
    Jeśli możesz, zawsze uciekaj z takiej sytuacji.

  • @cieloemeraviglia2602
    @cieloemeraviglia2602 7 лет назад +16

    Quando paro devo usare il goniometro? Provate prima a capire che cos'è una scherma con i coltelli, alla corta distanza, prima di fare la difesa da una coltellata.

  • @JoseMartinez-ef5us
    @JoseMartinez-ef5us 3 года назад +1

    A lot of people are complainers and cry babies. I'd rather get my armed stabbed or cut than my liver or lungs, any day. I've had my right hand severed before, I really know the difference. Great stuff guys, you and your channel are amazing and priceless. May you be found in His favor at your appointed be blessed in His Kingdom! Thank you

  • @sparadial2432
    @sparadial2432 5 лет назад +1

    great videos!!!
    MILLE GRAZIE!!

  • @dawidszczepanski524
    @dawidszczepanski524 10 лет назад +4

    I'm not convinced by the last technique- it seems quite complicated: blocking/couterstricking, grabing the attackers wrist, passing him round the back and throwing...A lot things to do. Are you guys sure this is the most effective way in a scenario like this? I know KravMaga is a creative system- could you propose another solution to the stab/grab by the neck problem?
    I really like the way you teach.

  • @victorxirum5549
    @victorxirum5549 5 лет назад +2

    Exelente video, gracias por compartir sus conocimientos. Saludos

  • @dummkopf178
    @dummkopf178 9 лет назад

    My only critique would be the last technique where he is holding the guys wrist with one hand. I used to think you could actually do that, but really all he has to do is pull his arm away in the opposite direction and the guy won't be able to hold on because he's already extended his arm almost entirely, and the guy with the knife has full range of movement to pull his arm back.

  • @sshadowowe8940
    @sshadowowe8940 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for tutorial

  • @canutereynolds5579
    @canutereynolds5579 2 года назад +2

    Beautiful.

  • @masonlo7603
    @masonlo7603 9 лет назад +1

    Also at 5:00, when you have your attacker in that position take your elbow and hit them where the joint is and thrust their arm up at the same time. This'll create a strain on their arm and if you do it hard enough you could possibly dislocate his arm

    • @masonlo7603
      @masonlo7603 9 лет назад

      ***** You would already have them in an armlock, yes it would work regardless if they have a knife

    • @masonlo7603
      @masonlo7603 9 лет назад

      ***** No, if your face is above his torso, his furthest arm is only going to be able to reach his shoulder blade. Any punches that he lands aren't going to be very powerful because he can't reach you. At most he could get a few groin hits, but they're going to be very weak

    • @masonlo7603
      @masonlo7603 9 лет назад

      ***** I'm pretty sure if you had the guy in an armlock and you dislocated his arm he wouldn't be holding onto the knife anymore.

    • @masonlo7603
      @masonlo7603 9 лет назад

      ***** The whole point of this move is to immobilize their knife hand. Yes, it would work otherwise there would be no reason to have this move. There's always a way to disarm somebody, nobody is invincible

  • @jacopofas
    @jacopofas 10 лет назад +20

    La lezione principale del canale è: mai e dico MAI fare a botte con questo istruttore... Magari gli fai male ma di sicuro non fecondi nessuno per il resto della tua vita! :) scherzi a parte siete forti... Ogni video mostra qualcosa di nuovo... Bravi!

  • @filanninonicola2809
    @filanninonicola2809 5 лет назад +11

    È meglio se non proponiamo soluzioni non possibili, l'aggressore è un nemico e non un compagno d'allenamento che segue degli schemi.
    Con il coltello c'è poco da fare,non parliamone neanche se è alle spalle.
    La pistola poi.......
    Tutti quei giochini ,sfido chi si mette lì a farli.
    Non convinciamo nessuno a farsi ammazzare,una scazzottata è un'altra cosa.

  • @mavlidinhairudinov7229
    @mavlidinhairudinov7229 7 лет назад

    Класс пабедителей не судят. Главное вывести со строя. Четко мне нравится💪👍👍👍

  • @bigguy7367
    @bigguy7367 10 лет назад +2

    Humm question what if your opponent is either way bigger or way smaller than you?

  • @lucasgarcias1815
    @lucasgarcias1815 7 лет назад

    gracias por los datos chicos son unos genios sigan a si salvan muchas vida con esos vídeos que hacen los felicito

  • @playerunknown7211
    @playerunknown7211 5 лет назад +18

    1:32 "at 120°"
    Alr8
    Two days later:Guy attacks me with knife,surges forward
    Me:STOP MAN
    *Measures 120 degrees,bends
    COME ON MAN*
    Guy:

  • @ZXCFede
    @ZXCFede 10 лет назад

    Fortissimi ragazzi! Bravi grazie x le spiegazioni dettagliate! Grazie davvero!

  • @FBI_PSYCO
    @FBI_PSYCO 2 года назад +1

    nice!!video thank you

  • @massteel7483
    @massteel7483 2 года назад +1

    Excelente entrenador 👏👍💪, muy buen cuerpo entrenado y explicado todo 👍👏gracias por compartir su video diga su nombre para mencionar en los comentarios Saludos 🤗 espero 🙏 se encuentre muy bien 👍

  • @danielrafaelmontanacasabla280
    @danielrafaelmontanacasabla280 Год назад +1

    Krav maga training exelent video

  • @lucadionisi6910
    @lucadionisi6910 5 лет назад +2

    Complimenti. Giustamente il video mostra come difendersi, ovvero SOPRAVVIVERE a un attacco di coltello, cercando di limitare i danni. Non significa che si ha la certezza di uscirne incolume. L'istruttore lo ha precisato chiaramente.

  • @eliotquintana9802
    @eliotquintana9802 Год назад +1

    Krav maga techniques with knife attack

  • @joyj.s5269
    @joyj.s5269 7 лет назад +1

    amando essas aulas 😘
    o problema é o professor que de tão gato, tira minha atenção !!

  • @ukaszkubeczko4850
    @ukaszkubeczko4850 5 лет назад

    Hello, and what will the defense be like after your defense hits the side with a knife?

  • @НиколайС-г1ь
    @НиколайС-г1ь Год назад

    Спасибо за видео.

  • @peppercaruso8143
    @peppercaruso8143 5 лет назад

    Hatte heute mein erstes Training. Faust war nen bisschen blutig und an manchen stellen offen, aber kann ich echt jedem weiterempfehlen. Es macht wirklich sehr viel Spaß, wenn man über den Schmerz hinweg guckt 👍

  • @Faithfulperson-o7n
    @Faithfulperson-o7n 6 лет назад

    Grazie mille per tutti i vostri video,volevo chiedere cortesemente riguardo l'ultima parte; quando lo afferr da doetro e lo sollevo pre buttarlo a terra, se non ho la forza di sollevarlo,in che altro modo lo posso buttare a terra?,grazie

  • @Дед-х9ф
    @Дед-х9ф 4 года назад +1

    Хотелось бы, на ваши ролики иметь перевод

  • @SanjShowTime
    @SanjShowTime 6 лет назад +4

    I love Italy....😍

    • @exoneratefate4734
      @exoneratefate4734 5 лет назад

      sAnJ sHoW TiMe but krav maga is an Israeli fighting style... are these people performing the art italian?

  • @NAHTANOJ164
    @NAHTANOJ164 7 лет назад +2

    What do you do if they are using two knives at once?

  • @junpalad8358
    @junpalad8358 9 лет назад

    thanks 4 the idea...8 so OK. very use full.more power.so great

  • @tilakfusion
    @tilakfusion 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice defence

  • @microiceone5181
    @microiceone5181 6 лет назад

    Impressionante ..... quanti anni di allenamento ci vogliono per arrivare al tuo livello??

  • @MrPuertoescondido
    @MrPuertoescondido 7 лет назад

    muy buena postura en mexico krav maga es 360 lo mismo es . paras un golpe y golpear al mismo tiempo

  • @gameo2001
    @gameo2001 9 лет назад

    What if he pulls the knife back and cuts underneath your arm? Or turns his wrist rapidly, wouldn't the knife cut you?

    • @Robert399
      @Robert399 8 лет назад

      +Matthew Anonymous A lot of (proper) knife defences risk arm cuts. There's not a lot you can do about that, but it's better than getting stabbed in the chest. Knife attacks really aren't clean.

  • @jasonchong2541
    @jasonchong2541 4 года назад

    if the opponent is to heavy for me to lift, what can i do ?

  • @eliasescobar7042
    @eliasescobar7042 6 лет назад +1

    Geniio!!! Gracias por el video

  • @XLB1987
    @XLB1987 10 лет назад +1

    These techniques are last ditch efforts so that you may survive long enough to get your weapon out or escape if you have the luxury "maybe". You should not be involved in a knife fight on purpose unless you are cornered and have no more ammo for your pistola.

  • @kutisbayag1309
    @kutisbayag1309 5 лет назад +1

    I stick to one martial arts and technique to avoid confusion. To much techniques can make your mind rattle. I stick to my own country technique. Kali Filipino martial arts

  • @indianskullboygaming5302
    @indianskullboygaming5302 5 лет назад

    Where is the center of karva maga in Bhayandar

  • @mariogalli9505
    @mariogalli9505 6 лет назад

    Non credo che nemmeno allenandomi tutti i giorni riuscirei a calcolare i fondamentali 120 gradi durante un'aggressione... Dite che farmi bloccare chirurgicamente il gomito a quell'apertura è una buona soluzione?

  • @drhkleinert3245
    @drhkleinert3245 5 лет назад +2

    In fact: It is impossible to learn "Anti Knife Self Defense" bec its impossible to learn moves against every attack possible. Maybe you can learn a few moves that give you a small chance, against a few maybe common movements from a knife attacker but bec the knifeman can do nearly EVERY move with his knife (stabs, slashes, many many angles and on different speed, using his other hand for defense, disturbing, clearing, holding, punching etc, and he can kick, knee, headbutt etc) and body. And in reality everything is possible. Maybe its a not serious move with the knife (only threaten, or light stabs/slashes bec the opponent is scared to hurt you badly too, hes uneducated and moves really stupid so a good anti knife training can really help), maybe a fast and hard kick to the lower body can end the situation, or up to a knife attack by a hidden blade you cant see, or against a crazy guy on drugs, or in worst case against a knifeman and his friends/cousins. In a Dojo you only can "play" antiknife moves bec its not cool to get slashed or stabbed by real knifes in a Dojo, and of course you cant give big destroying power in your moves like you will do in a real stressed and dangerous situation. Anti Knife is the most difficult and most full-of-lies segment in Martial Arts and Self Defense. So i say: Before teaching or learning Anti Knife just search the internet about REAL Knife attacks, real knife wounds and then think twice about this theme. But the good news: Less than 0,01 % of all people, incl Martial Art teachers ever had a serious knife attack in their life. If you live an ordinary life its nearly unthinkable to be in a real dangerous situation. To live in a bad hood, a brawlers gang or to be a doorkeeper isnt a normal life.

  • @desenvolvimentoweb6032
    @desenvolvimentoweb6032 4 года назад +1

    Excelente !

  • @roberttegchi8967
    @roberttegchi8967 7 лет назад

    Muy buenos videos

  • @digital6262
    @digital6262 10 лет назад +11

    What a wonderful language

  • @limweichang5579
    @limweichang5579 9 лет назад +1

    So useful!!!

  • @pablomoraga5373
    @pablomoraga5373 6 лет назад

    La posicion de defensa. Es perfecta.
    Ahora bien ; dependerá nuestra posición de defensa. De la postura de ataque, de el oponente.

  • @vaishalitijare8991
    @vaishalitijare8991 6 лет назад

    How defeat our apponent if he grab our body from front with our hand?

  • @yannickassa3077
    @yannickassa3077 5 лет назад +1

    Very efficient

  • @melanyhope6153
    @melanyhope6153 2 года назад

    E se è troppo pesante e non riesco a sollevare per atterrarlo?

  • @hungkiet7535
    @hungkiet7535 5 лет назад

    Trap the hands first is the most importance things in knife defense!

  • @georgesvetoslavov7624
    @georgesvetoslavov7624 6 лет назад

    Remember: Always catch the hand with the knife - "the wrist". Depense, but priority is always to disarm the wrist and to twist the wrist - the attacker to drop the knife or you take it

  • @rololo88
    @rololo88 6 лет назад

    You never run away without injuries or worse if you start a fight against someone with a knife. Never forget you loose 90% of your mental capacities during an agression.

  • @sudirbai
    @sudirbai 10 лет назад

    what if he stabb on the hand you are blocking with?

  • @shujiling213
    @shujiling213 5 лет назад +2

    awesome

  • @JohnnyRouddro
    @JohnnyRouddro 10 лет назад

    why not grab his hand , deliver an aikido twist and get rid of the knife ?

  • @hamadibalde3110
    @hamadibalde3110 6 лет назад

    si è bon formazione 👍👊💪

  • @silviaconcha1735
    @silviaconcha1735 7 лет назад +13

    My problem with all KM techniques is in real life everything happens son fast, what works in the gym doesn´t works in real attacks.

    • @cassiohenrique6815
      @cassiohenrique6815 7 лет назад +16

      Thats why you start with slow, then move up to fast paced training. Train enough and you wont have to think, you body will remember what to do

    • @djvar94
      @djvar94 3 года назад +2

      @@cassiohenrique6815 exactly, it's called muscle memory for your body and reflexes and sharper instincts for your mind. Of course Krav Maga is not a guarantee by any stretch of the imagination, but having some training is far better than none at all and certainly will teach you a lot of very valuable things. In the first place how to actually avoid any fight, dangerous places, people and situations which is enough to save your ass 90% of the times. And it will also teach you how to avoid these kind of attacks should you really have nowhere to escape or run and it's a fight for your life.

    • @rodrigomaluya5206
      @rodrigomaluya5206 3 года назад +1

      @@djvar94 berry nice move ser

    • @rodrigomaluya5206
      @rodrigomaluya5206 3 года назад

      @@djvar94 nice move

    • @rodrigomaluya5206
      @rodrigomaluya5206 3 года назад

      @@djvar94 verry nice move

  • @fabiocortes6566
    @fabiocortes6566 7 лет назад

    bueno y si el ataque es frontal como bloquearlo

  • @lucianoincertiguidotti112
    @lucianoincertiguidotti112 5 лет назад

    Sono un praticante di wuin chun da quasi 30 anni vedere certi vidio e una presa per il culo veramente ridicola

  • @mirella9157
    @mirella9157 2 года назад

    E,se l'attaccò viene dall'alto?

  • @adalidortega6099
    @adalidortega6099 6 лет назад

    Gracias...!!!
    Muy bueno..!!!

  • @wjazdnabanie4621
    @wjazdnabanie4621 4 года назад

    Wow! Respect!

  • @francescoiorio3265
    @francescoiorio3265 6 лет назад

    Grande maestro

  • @Bj-yf3im
    @Bj-yf3im 9 лет назад

    The technique at 2:25 looks like "Hungry Tiger Catches Goat" from Hung Gar Kung Fu. :)

  • @domenicodema6397
    @domenicodema6397 7 лет назад

    Ad una velocità più sostenuta la vedo molto dura, come dite nel video la strada è molto differente.

  • @miguelangelporras9351
    @miguelangelporras9351 6 лет назад

    Traduzcan al español también
    Quiero saber que dicen no se mucho inglés ... Un gran vídeo pero sólo le falta ese detalle.. gracias

    • @brounee2
      @brounee2 5 лет назад

      angelezzo ;3 Pero hablan italiano, es casi lo mismo que el español.

  • @robertoadrianbevacqua4286
    @robertoadrianbevacqua4286 5 лет назад

    Buenisimo.......ahora falta un video q me enseňe no matarlo cuando le saque el cuchillo o por lo menos tratar de no apuňalarlo a el 50 veces

  • @Epotheros
    @Epotheros 5 лет назад

    1:05 is the most important part of the who video series. Being grabbed and then stabbed multiple times is the most likely way someone, especially if they know what they are doing, will attack you.

  • @cuonosposito1585
    @cuonosposito1585 7 лет назад

    nell' ultimo caso il piu difficile come fai a buttarlo a terra se è più grosso e pesante?

  • @Burevestnik9M730
    @Burevestnik9M730 4 года назад

    I think low kick would serve better here if anything.

  • @AM-lk7nj
    @AM-lk7nj 2 года назад

    I want to see this defense in fast motion with no hesitation from attacker

  • @silvanosua7863
    @silvanosua7863 10 лет назад +22

    bel video interessante, siete bravi tutti e due. Pero, da bresciano a bresciano se riesci a non dire 350 ok, ma prova a cambiare con ( avete capito, quindi, dunque) anche le persone che osservano e sentono saranno più contente. OK!!!!

  • @januszenauki9200
    @januszenauki9200 6 лет назад

    Thanx for it

  • @Williams-zn8of
    @Williams-zn8of 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yes.

  • @Cantinespirituel
    @Cantinespirituel 9 месяцев назад +1

    6:19 😂😂😂🙏

  • @robotzful
    @robotzful 10 лет назад

    qualcuno sa se è possibile vedere da qualche parte le tecniche di krav maga in una situazione reale o di combattimento? se si me le linkate per favore?. thx!

  • @florinpaduran7068
    @florinpaduran7068 10 лет назад

    Awesome dude :)

  • @gianlucaariu8408
    @gianlucaariu8408 6 лет назад +5

    Nel 98% dei casi da un coltello non ti salvi...in una situazione reale di strada ci son 1000 fattori da considerare primo fra tutti l'effetto sorpresa. ....chi ti vuole accoltellato lo fa all'improvviso senza darti tempo di prepararti. ...

    • @fabiorusconi8129
      @fabiorusconi8129 6 лет назад +1

      Giusto Gianluca, ma vai a fargliela capire cazzo... magari qualcuno ci crede a ste cose

    • @gio03official
      @gio03official 5 лет назад

      le coltellate non si fermano mai è diversa la cosa, si può sopravvivere rimanendo feriti ma non è possibile fermare l'uomo armato di coltello

    • @nonindispensabileasaperlo1214
      @nonindispensabileasaperlo1214 5 лет назад

      @@gio03official beh hai ragione ma non è detto al 100% qualcuno usando oggetti o aiutandosi da oggetti riesce a ribaltare la situazione

    • @gio03official
      @gio03official 5 лет назад

      @@nonindispensabileasaperlo1214 è difficilissimo fermare una lama anche con un oggetto se non sei a distanza, la lama viaggia più veloce del pugno e impatta prima, l'unica soluzione con chi estrae una lama se non allontanarti è sparargli

  • @igorsouza2260
    @igorsouza2260 10 лет назад

    Come difendere un calcio di turno?
    Grazie!