Hey guys! Welcome back to another video, this time about the history of the alphabet! Make sure to leave a like and subscribe if you enjoyed and let me know what other type of content you'd like to see next on the channel! P.S., another language comparison is coming within the next few days, don't worry... :)
great vid. when you're finding maps, try specifying the time you want when you enter your search terms. the map you used for the Latins was about 1300 km and 2000 yrs away from what you wanted
Amazing video, topics like this one are always fascinating. If I could give a tip on esthetics I feel like a dark grey background isn't the best choice, maybe a lighter and different color would fit better
0:56 That isn't the Nabataean script. It's displaying that way on Omniglot (not a reliable source) because you haven't installed a font that can support it; try Noto Sans Nabataean. 1:24 There were more than 2 ancient scripts before the Proto-Sinaitic script. Besides Sumero-Akkadian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs, there was also Egyptian hieratic, Cretan hieroglyphs, Proto-Elamite script and Linear Elamite (before the Elamites adopted cuneiform), among others. 3:30 Whether or not Brahmi scripts derive (partially) from Aramaic script is hotly contested, and there's no strong consensus. It's worth noting that not all alphabetic scripts derive from the influence of Phoenician or Aramaic. The South Arabian script, the forerunner of the Ethiopic script used today for languages like Amharic, was derived from an independent branch of Proto-Sinaitic writing that traveled south into the Arabian Peninsula, rather than being diffused via Phoenician or Aramaic-based scripts. The same might be true for Libyco-Berber script, ancestor of the Tifinagh and Neo-Tifinagh alphabets; it's debated whether the script was based directly on Phoenician, or a separate western development of Proto-Sinaitic.
Hey, thanks for the thoughtful comment! Unfortunately, it's common to oversee these things, and I'll make sure to keep a lookout on the future. By the way, I do understand that not all alphabets come from a single source, but it's mind-blowing to see that most do. In the end, I named alphabets that are independent of any outside influence.
The chinese script "hanzu" is mostly the same as the kanji. The only difference is how you read it (as in if you were to say it out, how would you say it) and with how you write it. Mandarin itself isn't actually an alphabet, but it uses hanzu. Other countries that sometimes use hanzu are Vietnamese or Korean. These sometimes use Hanzu depending on how much language you know.
it's actually pronounced Hànzi it's almost the same Kanji but not completely because Chinese Hànzi made it's way to Japan a looong time ago and after that China has been simplifying their characters to increase literacy rates while Japan did the same with their own direction. Because of this you could see Kanji characters not used in Hànzi and vice versa. But most of them are the same, it's only the simplified characters of both languages
@@Jnw_nyySome parts of kanji have also been slightly simplified. The traditional hanzi is currently only widely used in Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, but there is still a 1% difference in hanzi in these regions.
Georgian doesn't relate to any other language in the world. it has its OWN language group called "Kartvelian" or "Kartuli", which translates to "Georgian" in Georgian. We have 3 alphabets and the one we use the most, called Mkhedruli, is influenced a bit by Greek, but our other 2 alphabets, Nuskhuri and Asomtavruli are both COMPLETELY on their own, not related to any other language, so it was created by Georgians themselves and it is therefore also one of the oldest in the world. The oldest Georgian writings that have been found have dated back to as far as 3000-3500 years, the oldest of which has been found in Grakliani Hill.
You said it has its own language group which means it is related to other languages. If it is a language isolated it can’t be in a group. Georgian is related to Ming relian, Laz and Svan
@@ikhebdieishetnietgoeddathe4057 It has its own language and it's related to GEORGIAN languages, it literally isn't related to any other language, those other languages, Laz, Svan and Mingrelian all write in the Georgian script, are Georgians and speak a Georgian language. They all originate in Georgia. So the Georgian languages do not sound like any other language and aren't related.
So.. cyrilic script was created from latin and greek ketters by Saint Cyril (pronpunced with an "S" sound) you didnt mention ite origin and i hoped you would refrence it so it would have encouraged you by learning its souce to then pronounce the name if the script correclty too. Very intereting research. Keep learning.
Georgian is part of no other alphabetic or language families, it is on its own. it clearly takes some inspiration from Greek as this script was made by a Georgian monk serving in an orthodox church in Romania. before this Mkhedruli alphabet there were Asomtavruli and Khutsuri which originated in Georgia and allegedly is one of the oldest since it has been "revived" by the first king of Georgia Pharnavaz.
I think the video still misses a few more images. I mean it's fine thar you talked about how the evolution took place but it would nit be bad to see more concrete examples of letters. The video had a lot of empty parts with plenty of time for more images.
@PolyglotMouse look I would suggest you to make like "subscriber's conlangs" or something like that xD. But it would be better for you to make like a showcase on Toki Pona
Hangeul came from the 'Phags-pa script. They repurposed the letters for different sounds. Also, 'Phags-pa came from Tibetan, which means it a descendant of Brahmi and Aramaic. The idea that it is completely independent of 'Phags-pa is just part of the Korean version of the typical cultural origin story/ propaganda that can be found in all cultures. King Sejong is a nation hero figure. It serves national interests to teach people that he was a super genius who invented an independent alphabet instead of admitting that he used a short lived Yuan Dynasty writing system that no one really knows about anymore.
You showed the wrong Maldivian script. The script in the picture, Dhives Akuru, is not derived from Arabic numerals and is an Brahmic script thus also related to Thai, Latin, Arabic, Greek etc. (all of them have Egyptian hieroglyphics as ancestor) The Maldivian script based on Arabic numerals that you’re talking about is called Thaana and replaced Dhives Akuru Also Bopomofo is created rather than evolved but it is still not independent. All Boponofo characters are based on Chinese characters. ㄅ is based on 勹, ㄆ is based on 攵etc. It has a parent system and therefore is not independent.
@@PolyglotMouse among interesting ones there's also the Yezidi script and tens if not hundreds of scripts from east Asia. Also a couple of modern African scripts like N'ko. So yeah, there's enough content for a sequel. Good luck!
The first one was hardest for me. Making a video about alphabets on a language channel and you don't know the word "Cyrillic".... Not a mortal sin but cringe
Wait, when did he mention the Cyrillic alphabet? Anyways, I agree. Even if the content of the video itself is good, it's the smaller areas that can ruin all. If you get the basic facts and pronunciations wrong, the reliability and seriousness of the larger information gets lost
Although he only mentions them in passing, they are derived from Greek. Some claim them to be from Etruscan or even Latin but I lean more towards them being from an older Greek source.
@@weepingscorpion8739 I wouldn't claim any origin theory. If it came from older greek, then the question would be: What happened between the phasing out of the older script and the first rune finds (600 years if I'm not wrong). Etruscan is, compared to the difference to runes, insignificantly different from greek. It was used longer and closer to Germania so that makes it more likely. The negau helmet B and the meldorf fibula are given great significance by some people but I think these isolated finds are for the most part irrelevant especially if their value derives from far reaching theories about what the writing says. Runes don't look very latin to me and some historicans claim that the adoption of runes was an active decision against rome. To me that makes sense. Germanics had close contact with rome and there is little reason for runes to be so different if they came from latin. So my guess would be that they came from Etruscan but we don't know. I don't look into this very often so let me know if I made mistakes. ᚺᛖᚠ ᛖ ᚷᚱᛖᛁᛏ ᛞᛖᛁ
@@christopherstein2024 The first runes are from the around year 25 AD; this was announced just last year. There are many hypotheses but one appealing one is that they come from Greek but through some intermediary Celtic alphabets like Lepontic. The problem here is that we have so little material, likely because these symbols were written on perishables like wood. Jackson Crawford here on RUclips has talked about this a lot in his videos.
@@weepingscorpion8739 Wow, I didn't know about Lepontic. There are so many matches (both shape and sound wise) that it seems very unlikely that this isn't one of the closest ancestors. Since you can form a new alphabet with letters from different ancestor alphabets it's hard to definite a clear origin. There is a chart on wikipedia and it also names runes as coming from greek over etruscan and it seems lepontic would be a link. Going through the ancestors it's a very straight fowards path from egypt along the eastern mediterranian to the north over the alps. Honestly I don't know why one would even suggest that the origin could be latin except for the timing. The (potentially) oldest rune find from last year is the Svingerud Runestone dated 0-250 CE. However we have the danish rune knife from 150 CE discovered this year. I don't know how they date these but we haven't really entered the 1st century yet. They make many discoveries these days and I'd hope we'll find writing from around 300 BCE that fills the gap in our life time!
Great video topic, but not great video... Too much blank screen with literally nothing in it. Maybe fill it up with all the relevant pics of the topic, or learn from all those Sam O'Nella-esque channels and put your "Polyglot Mouse" character in the video
Thanks for the tips! I've never actually thought about animating my character, that's sounds like a great idea. And as for the blank screen, that's because I rushed making the video as I only had a day due to studying for exams, but I'll make sure everything is filled in the future
اصل اللغات وام اللغات هي اللغة العربية اولا : يجب ان نفرق بين الكتابة وبين اللغة فلا يوجد لغة سامية فعليا اللغة السامية هو مصطلح تم وضعه عن اللغة العربية القديمة لإخفائها من قبل المستشرقين واسمحوا لي ان اشارككم مقالين الاول: مقتطفات من القرار التاسع عشر في مجمع اللغة العربية الافتراضي • السامية مصطلح ابتدعه مستشرق يهودي اسمه شلوترز عام 1781 حيث أطلقه على اللغة العربية القديمة. • ويهمنا من كلام شلوتزر ما يلي: "من المتوسط إلى الفرات، ومن بلاد النهرين إلى شبه جزيرة العرب تسود كما هو معروف لغة واحده وعليه فالسوريون والبابليون والعبريون والعرب كانوا أمة واحدة، والفينيقيون (الحاميون) أيضًا تكلموا بهذه اللغة التي أود أن أدعوها ساميَّة" • أثبت البحث المقارن أن جميع اللغات السامية هي لهجات عربية قديمة لم تزل معظم خصائصها اللغوية موجودة إلى اليوم في لهجات الجزيرة العربية، ولا سيما في جنوبها الغربي، وهناك شبه إجماع لدى معظم العلماء أن جنوب غرب الجزيرة العربية هو مهاجر جميع الأقوام التي أطلق عليها الشعوب السامية. (تاريخ اللغة العبرية لرابين ص 26) • الناظر في اللغة السامية الأم كما تم تصورها وإعادة بنائها في كتب بروكلمان ونولدكه ورايت وموسكاتي وغيرهم (وهي الكتب المرجعية للبحث في اللغات السامية) يجد أنها لا شيء إلا العربية. • التسمية التي ينبغي أن نطلقها على تلك اللغات أو اللهجات هي اللغات أو اللهجات العروبية، وهي التسمية الأقرب إلى روح العلم والفكر المجرد من الأهواء والمآرب. وما بدعة السامية إلا لإبعاد الاسم الحقيقي للشعوب المهاجرة من جزيرة العرب، وهي شعوب عربية خالصة، اضطرها الجفاف الذي ضرب الجزيرة العربية قبل الميلاد بنحو 2000سنة إلى الهجرة باتجاه أماكن ذات موارد طبيعية دائمة. • تنبه كثير من علماء العربية إلى هذا نذكر منهم الخليل بن أحمد الفراهيدي المتوفى 175 هـ وفي معرض كلامه عن كنعان بن سام ذكر ما نصه: "إليه ينسب الكنعانيون وكانوا يتكلمون بلغة تقارب العربية" (معجم العين للخليل 1/205). ومن ذلك ما ذكره ابن حزم: "فمن تدبر العربية والعبرانية السريانية أيقن أن اختلافها إنما هو من نحو ما ذكرنا من تبديل ألفاظ الناس على طول الأزمان واختلاف البلدان ومجاورة الأمم، وأنها لغة واحدة في الأصل" (الإحكام في اصول الأحكام لابن حزم 1/31). ثانيا : كل الابجديات الأولى مثل الفينيقية والكتابات القديمة هي كتابات ولهجات للغة العربية المنطوقة واخر الدراسات توكد هذا وتضيف ان السنسكريتية والهيروغليفية والامازيغية اصلهم عربي ايضا واسمح لي بمشاركتك بالمقال التالي: اكد الدكتور جاسر أبو صفية ان اللغة العربية هي (ام اللغات) التي اتسعت وانتشرت في الارض شرقا وغربا واصبح لها تأثيرها عبر العصور فأخذت عنها بعض الامم مفردات وحروفا . و ان مقام اللغة العربية تاريخاً ومضموناً لا يمكن اختصاره ببعض الصفحات لما لها من أصالة وقدم يعود الى آلاف السنين ..حيث أن اللغة العربية هي سابقة جميع لغات العالم مبينا انها تعني كلام العرب على اختلاف شعوبهم وقبائلهم التي خرجت من جزيرة العرب قبل كتابة التاريخ بقرون طويلة والتي كان آخرها خروجهم يحملون الدين الإسلامي ولغة القرآن الكريم . وهذه الشعوب هي الأنباط والحبشيون والقبطيون والسريانيون والعبرانيون بالإضافة إلى الأكديين والبابليين والأشوريين والعمونيين، والأراميين، والعيلاميين، والسومريين. و العديد من لغويي العالم تناولوا العربية كلغة اصيلة معتبرين انها أم اللغات فالباحث الفرنسي بيير روسي ذكر صراحة أن اللغة العربية هي أم اللغات، والباحث الهندي كرامت حسين الكنتوري أكد بأدلة كثيرة أن اللغة العربية هي الأصل.. وقال الباحث الباكستاني محمد أحمد مظهر أن العربية هي التي تقدم للدارسين اوجه التشابه والاختلاف بين السنسكريتية واليونانية واللاتينية .. وقال ان الباحث الألماني ماكس موللر اشار إلى أن أقدم اللغات تلك التي تكون أغنى من غيرها بالترادف والمشترك اللفظي، وقدم أمثلة من العربية على ذلك .. وقال يسبيرسن.. إن أفضل لغة تلك التي تستطيع التعبير عن المعاني الكثيرة بألفاظ قليلة حيث من المعروف أن الاختصار سمة من سمات العربية، وهو ما يعرف بجوامع الكلم.. وقال أرنست رينان في كتابه /تاريخ اللغات السامية/ أنه لم يمض على فتح الأندلس أكثر من خمسين سنة حتى اضطر رجال الكنيسة الى ترجمة صلواتهم بالعربية . واضاف ابو صفية ان الأستاذ بجامعة اوكسفورد دافيد صمويل مرجليوث قال ان اللغة العربية أقدم من كل تاريخ ، كما ان المستشرق الأمريكي وليم ورل قال إن اللغة العربية لم تتقهقر فيما مضى أمام أي لغة أخرى من اللغات التي احتكت بها . استاذ اللغة العربية الدكتور نبيل الجنابي قال ان اللغة العربية عاصرت البشرية وتعايشت معها منذ ان تكلم الانسان حتى اليوم.. إضافة : * اللغة العربية كانت تكتب قديما بالخط المسند اليمني وحديثا وجد انه كتب به في عام 5000 ق . م وهذا الخط وجد مكتوبا به الاف النقوش ووجد ايضا جنبا الى جنب مع الهيروغليفية في الحضارة الفرعونية على تابوت في منطقة سقارة في المقابر الملكية وهو موجود حاليا في متحف القاهرة وعند تحليل الرموز فان اسم صاحب التابوت هو ( زيد) ويقال انه تاجر يمني .. * معجم الفردوس يحتوي على 25000 كلمة في اللغة الانجليزية اصلها عربي ... مع خالص احترامي وتقديري
قرأت كل شيء، جزء مني يتفق تماما مع ما قلته بالطبع لأن النص يحتوي على أشياء منطقية لكن جزء مني يظهر لي شيء ما... و طبعا قلت الفكر الذي تحمله بما أنك عربي جعلك ترى كل شيء من جهة واحدة "العربية اصل جميع اللغات" ما الذي يجعل اللغة العربية (التي هي من احدث اللغات السامية) أصل اللغات من جميع اللغات التي ربما عددها بالآلاف أو عشرات الآلاف؟ كفى تعظيم و تفخيم اللغة العربية، صحيح أن الشعوب القديمة في شبه الجزيرة العربية، الشام، بلاد الرافدين و بلاد الحبشة كانو يتحدثون بنفس اللغة تقريبا لكن مع لهجات مختلفة (المستشرقين و علماء اللغويات اطلقوا على هذه اللغة اسم "Proto-Semitic" أي لغة سامية أولية/بدائية) لكن اللهجات تتطور و تتفرع و تصبح لغات قائمة بذاتها و احد الاسباب ربما لقلة اتصال نفس متحدثي اللغة و يمكننا اعطاء مثال باللغات الرومانسية/اللاتينية، الفرنسية الايطالية و الاسبانية إلى آخره... طبعا نحن كعرب لن يكون لنا احساس ثقة بعلماء اللغويات و تاريخ اللغات، الذين جزء منهم غربيين و أنت تعلم من المؤثرين على كل شيء في عالمنا المعاصر، لكن لو كانت العربية كانت أصل اللغات، لماذا لو قارنت أي لغة (غير "سامية") جاءت في بالك مع العربية القديمة أو حتى العربية الحديثة هل تظن أن هناك تشابه بهم؟ هل تظن أن الأنبياء من المنظور الاسلامي و اليهودي تحدثوا العربية؟
@@Bellarej350 لمزيد من التفاصيل يمكنك منابعة الدكتور احمد داوود والدكتور محمد بهجت القبيسي فهم متخصصين بهذا المجال ...علما اني ذكرت كلام اهل الاختصاص من غير العرب ايضا
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Hey guys! Welcome back to another video, this time about the history of the alphabet! Make sure to leave a like and subscribe if you enjoyed and let me know what other type of content you'd like to see next on the channel! P.S., another language comparison is coming within the next few days, don't worry... :)
Wait Cyrillic can be pronounce ( ker • ril • ik )?
I thought it was ( ser • ril • ik )
6:49 wrong century and map
exactly what I thought!
There is no alfabet called Sanskri but Sankrit language uses Devnagari script. It was developed from Dhamma script to Brahmi to Devnagari.
Yup, I mentioned this later, thanks for clarifying
You're going to blow up big time. Keep grinding them out!
That's the plan! I appreciate all of the support! Every comment means a lot
Great video and great mention of Georgian which I sometimes find missing in videos of world orthographies
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it 😊
great vid. when you're finding maps, try specifying the time you want when you enter your search terms. the map you used for the Latins was about 1300 km and 2000 yrs away from what you wanted
Sounds good thanks for the tip!
Amazing video, topics like this one are always fascinating. If I could give a tip on esthetics I feel like a dark grey background isn't the best choice, maybe a lighter and different color would fit better
Yeah, I've heard that before, and I'll look into it. What color are you thinking?
@@PolyglotMouse I like the gray
0:56 That isn't the Nabataean script. It's displaying that way on Omniglot (not a reliable source) because you haven't installed a font that can support it; try Noto Sans Nabataean.
1:24 There were more than 2 ancient scripts before the Proto-Sinaitic script. Besides Sumero-Akkadian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs, there was also Egyptian hieratic, Cretan hieroglyphs, Proto-Elamite script and Linear Elamite (before the Elamites adopted cuneiform), among others.
3:30 Whether or not Brahmi scripts derive (partially) from Aramaic script is hotly contested, and there's no strong consensus.
It's worth noting that not all alphabetic scripts derive from the influence of Phoenician or Aramaic. The South Arabian script, the forerunner of the Ethiopic script used today for languages like Amharic, was derived from an independent branch of Proto-Sinaitic writing that traveled south into the Arabian Peninsula, rather than being diffused via Phoenician or Aramaic-based scripts. The same might be true for Libyco-Berber script, ancestor of the Tifinagh and Neo-Tifinagh alphabets; it's debated whether the script was based directly on Phoenician, or a separate western development of Proto-Sinaitic.
Hey, thanks for the thoughtful comment! Unfortunately, it's common to oversee these things, and I'll make sure to keep a lookout on the future. By the way, I do understand that not all alphabets come from a single source, but it's mind-blowing to see that most do. In the end, I named alphabets that are independent of any outside influence.
The chinese script "hanzu" is mostly the same as the kanji. The only difference is how you read it (as in if you were to say it out, how would you say it) and with how you write it. Mandarin itself isn't actually an alphabet, but it uses hanzu. Other countries that sometimes use hanzu are Vietnamese or Korean. These sometimes use Hanzu depending on how much language you know.
it's actually pronounced Hànzi it's almost the same Kanji but not completely because Chinese Hànzi made it's way to Japan a looong time ago and after that China has been simplifying their characters to increase literacy rates while Japan did the same with their own direction. Because of this you could see Kanji characters not used in Hànzi and vice versa. But most of them are the same, it's only the simplified characters of both languages
@@Jnw_nyySome parts of kanji have also been slightly simplified. The traditional hanzi is currently only widely used in Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, but there is still a 1% difference in hanzi in these regions.
yea i was confused when he said "mandarin" and "kanji"
Koreans use Hanja and the Vietnamese use Chữ Nôm
6:52 BIG mistake here: Look up when the Latin Empire existed. That is a couple millennia too late hahaha
Good video overall!
Thanks for the comment, how could I not realize Italy was not in the map?
Brahmi from Aramaic and Greek
what about european runes (norse, slavic, etc.) and american heiroglyphs (mayan, incan, aztec, etc.)?
I'll definitely have to make a sequel. This was mainly alphabets that descended from Proto-Sinaitic with a few others
runes are descended from latin script iirc
I hate how Latin removed the names for the letters in the alphabet. It would be so cool to still have the alphabet betas.
Same here!
Georgian doesn't relate to any other language in the world. it has its OWN language group called "Kartvelian" or "Kartuli", which translates to "Georgian" in Georgian. We have 3 alphabets and the one we use the most, called Mkhedruli, is influenced a bit by Greek, but our other 2 alphabets, Nuskhuri and Asomtavruli are both COMPLETELY on their own, not related to any other language, so it was created by Georgians themselves and it is therefore also one of the oldest in the world. The oldest Georgian writings that have been found have dated back to as far as 3000-3500 years, the oldest of which has been found in Grakliani Hill.
Hey, thanks for the interesting comment! Would they really be the oldest in the world, though? Hieroglyphics date back farther
@@PolyglotMouse No no lol I said one of the oldest, the oldest is a stretch
You said it has its own language group which means it is related to other languages. If it is a language isolated it can’t be in a group. Georgian is related to Ming relian, Laz and Svan
@@ikhebdieishetnietgoeddathe4057 It has its own language and it's related to GEORGIAN languages, it literally isn't related to any other language, those other languages, Laz, Svan and Mingrelian all write in the Georgian script, are Georgians and speak a Georgian language. They all originate in Georgia. So the Georgian languages do not sound like any other language and aren't related.
Kartvelian and kartuli aren't the same , kartvelian is used for the whole language family while kartuli is only Georgian
"writing systems, like Mandarin"
man hanzu is so cool.
Minor blunder
In my defense, I did say character based 🫠
@@PolyglotMouseand the fact that mandarin uses hanzi or hanzu?
So.. cyrilic script was created from latin and greek ketters by Saint Cyril (pronpunced with an "S" sound) you didnt mention ite origin and i hoped you would refrence it so it would have encouraged you by learning its souce to then pronounce the name if the script correclty too. Very intereting research. Keep learning.
I’d love a video about fictional scripts, like the Galach alphabet and the Chakobsa abjad from Dune
New language channel 👀
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Georgian is part of no other alphabetic or language families, it is on its own. it clearly takes some inspiration from Greek as this script was made by a Georgian monk serving in an orthodox church in Romania. before this Mkhedruli alphabet there were Asomtavruli and Khutsuri which originated in Georgia and allegedly is one of the oldest since it has been "revived" by the first king of Georgia Pharnavaz.
Thanks for letting me know!
Great video It seems that the Phoenicians were not only sea masters, but wait 5:00 did you just pronounce the letter "Aleph" as ALEP!!! 😵💫
2:25 sigma😭🙏🔥🔥
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1000 subs? This is so underrated
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12:05 Doctor's alphabet 💀
Japanese hiragana and katakana are also independently created alphabets
Yup, should've included them
They're derived from kanji though
@@kuutti256 Which is the same thing as Chinese Characters (infact, kanji is a corrouption of "Chinese Characters" in chinese...)
@@PolyglotMousenot really and they are syllabaries. The Hiragana and Katakana characters evolved from cursive Chinese characters
I think the video still misses a few more images. I mean it's fine thar you talked about how the evolution took place but it would nit be bad to see more concrete examples of letters. The video had a lot of empty parts with plenty of time for more images.
Yeah, I should've put more images but I wanted to publish this video soon. Thanks for the comment!
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The old Fen TV logo and Theta are both related😂😂😂
A conlang video would hit
I agree
It happens to be on my list! Specifically, what conlang video would you like to see?
@PolyglotMouse look I would suggest you to make like "subscriber's conlangs" or something like that xD. But it would be better for you to make like a showcase on Toki Pona
@@ceohadenough894YES TO THE FIRST IDEA
@@PolyglotMouse something fascinating, like Loglan or Ithkuil or the phonetics of Quenya
2:26/2:25🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿😎😎😎😎
banger video
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Hangeul came from the 'Phags-pa script. They repurposed the letters for different sounds. Also, 'Phags-pa came from Tibetan, which means it a descendant of Brahmi and Aramaic. The idea that it is completely independent of 'Phags-pa is just part of the Korean version of the typical cultural origin story/ propaganda that can be found in all cultures. King Sejong is a nation hero figure. It serves national interests to teach people that he was a super genius who invented an independent alphabet instead of admitting that he used a short lived Yuan Dynasty writing system that no one really knows about anymore.
제발 인터넷 어딘가에서 주워들은 이상한 정보 가지고 진짜인마냥 적지좀 마
@@TYMCCK That is very presumptive. Please do some research before commenting.
The Phonetic Alphabet of the... "Phonicians" ahahahah
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Inventors of food and language the great Levant.
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Latin letter old Fen TV symbol
IPA:voiceless bilabial trill
Transliterated as "px"
Example:pxen(not fenen)
how will you pronounce this?
Don't forget Tifinagh!
He briefly mentioned Tiffinagh at some point
You showed the wrong Maldivian script. The script in the picture, Dhives Akuru, is not derived from Arabic numerals and is an Brahmic script thus also related to Thai, Latin, Arabic, Greek etc. (all of them have Egyptian hieroglyphics as ancestor) The Maldivian script based on Arabic numerals that you’re talking about is called Thaana and replaced Dhives Akuru
Also Bopomofo is created rather than evolved but it is still not independent. All Boponofo characters are based on Chinese characters. ㄅ is based on 勹, ㄆ is based on 攵etc. It has a parent system and therefore is not independent.
A nice video! Slightly sad that you forgot the Armenian script tho
How could I forget!? I love Armenian. If I ever make a sequel, I'll have to add it
@@PolyglotMouse among interesting ones there's also the Yezidi script and tens if not hundreds of scripts from east Asia. Also a couple of modern African scripts like N'ko. So yeah, there's enough content for a sequel. Good luck!
As an Egyptian you’re welcome
Fen TV logo(2004)
English letter Q(666)
Greek letter Theta(4000 BC)
All related
Abkhaz Ha is the closest shape to Fen TV logo
Cyrillic - sər'rlik
Canaanite - 'kaynənite
Nabataean - nabə'tayən
Makes it hard to take this seriously.
The first one was hardest for me. Making a video about alphabets on a language channel and you don't know the word "Cyrillic".... Not a mortal sin but cringe
Wait, when did he mention the Cyrillic alphabet?
Anyways, I agree. Even if the content of the video itself is good, it's the smaller areas that can ruin all. If you get the basic facts and pronunciations wrong, the reliability and seriousness of the larger information gets lost
@@cerebrummaximus3762 first few sentences
Where are the runes? ᛒᚲ
Although he only mentions them in passing, they are derived from Greek. Some claim them to be from Etruscan or even Latin but I lean more towards them being from an older Greek source.
@@weepingscorpion8739 I wouldn't claim any origin theory.
If it came from older greek, then the question would be: What happened between the phasing out of the older script and the first rune finds (600 years if I'm not wrong). Etruscan is, compared to the difference to runes, insignificantly different from greek. It was used longer and closer to Germania so that makes it more likely. The negau helmet B and the meldorf fibula are given great significance by some people but I think these isolated finds are for the most part irrelevant especially if their value derives from far reaching theories about what the writing says.
Runes don't look very latin to me and some historicans claim that the adoption of runes was an active decision against rome. To me that makes sense. Germanics had close contact with rome and there is little reason for runes to be so different if they came from latin.
So my guess would be that they came from Etruscan but we don't know. I don't look into this very often so let me know if I made mistakes.
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@@christopherstein2024 The first runes are from the around year 25 AD; this was announced just last year. There are many hypotheses but one appealing one is that they come from Greek but through some intermediary Celtic alphabets like Lepontic. The problem here is that we have so little material, likely because these symbols were written on perishables like wood. Jackson Crawford here on RUclips has talked about this a lot in his videos.
@@weepingscorpion8739 Wow, I didn't know about Lepontic. There are so many matches (both shape and sound wise) that it seems very unlikely that this isn't one of the closest ancestors. Since you can form a new alphabet with letters from different ancestor alphabets it's hard to definite a clear origin. There is a chart on wikipedia and it also names runes as coming from greek over etruscan and it seems lepontic would be a link. Going through the ancestors it's a very straight fowards path from egypt along the eastern mediterranian to the north over the alps.
Honestly I don't know why one would even suggest that the origin could be latin except for the timing. The (potentially) oldest rune find from last year is the Svingerud Runestone dated 0-250 CE. However we have the danish rune knife from 150 CE discovered this year. I don't know how they date these but we haven't really entered the 1st century yet. They make many discoveries these days and I'd hope we'll find writing from around 300 BCE that fills the gap in our life time!
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Great video topic, but not great video...
Too much blank screen with literally nothing in it. Maybe fill it up with all the relevant pics of the topic, or learn from all those Sam O'Nella-esque channels and put your "Polyglot Mouse" character in the video
Thanks for the tips! I've never actually thought about animating my character, that's sounds like a great idea. And as for the blank screen, that's because I rushed making the video as I only had a day due to studying for exams, but I'll make sure everything is filled in the future
Earliest abjad was Ugaritic. Well before Egyptian
So youre telling me the greeks invented SIGMA?!
there's no way that there are people that don't know that sigma is a Greek letter...
Why no mention of the Armenian or Cherokee alphabets? The title is a lie!
Cherokee uses a syllabary, not an alphabet.
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اصل اللغات وام اللغات هي اللغة العربية
اولا : يجب ان نفرق بين الكتابة وبين اللغة فلا يوجد لغة سامية فعليا اللغة السامية هو مصطلح تم وضعه عن اللغة العربية القديمة لإخفائها من قبل المستشرقين واسمحوا لي ان اشارككم مقالين الاول:
مقتطفات من القرار التاسع عشر في مجمع اللغة العربية الافتراضي
• السامية مصطلح ابتدعه مستشرق يهودي اسمه شلوترز عام 1781 حيث أطلقه على اللغة العربية القديمة.
• ويهمنا من كلام شلوتزر ما يلي: "من المتوسط إلى الفرات، ومن بلاد النهرين إلى شبه جزيرة العرب تسود كما هو معروف لغة واحده وعليه فالسوريون والبابليون والعبريون والعرب كانوا أمة واحدة، والفينيقيون (الحاميون) أيضًا تكلموا بهذه اللغة التي أود أن أدعوها ساميَّة"
• أثبت البحث المقارن أن جميع اللغات السامية هي لهجات عربية قديمة لم تزل معظم خصائصها اللغوية موجودة إلى اليوم في لهجات الجزيرة العربية، ولا سيما في جنوبها الغربي، وهناك شبه إجماع لدى معظم العلماء أن جنوب غرب الجزيرة العربية هو مهاجر جميع الأقوام التي أطلق عليها الشعوب السامية. (تاريخ اللغة العبرية لرابين ص 26)
• الناظر في اللغة السامية الأم كما تم تصورها وإعادة بنائها في كتب بروكلمان ونولدكه ورايت وموسكاتي وغيرهم (وهي الكتب المرجعية للبحث في اللغات السامية) يجد أنها لا شيء إلا العربية.
• التسمية التي ينبغي أن نطلقها على تلك اللغات أو اللهجات هي اللغات أو اللهجات العروبية، وهي التسمية الأقرب إلى روح العلم والفكر المجرد من الأهواء والمآرب. وما بدعة السامية إلا لإبعاد الاسم الحقيقي للشعوب المهاجرة من جزيرة العرب، وهي شعوب عربية خالصة، اضطرها الجفاف الذي ضرب الجزيرة العربية قبل الميلاد بنحو 2000سنة إلى الهجرة باتجاه أماكن ذات موارد طبيعية دائمة.
• تنبه كثير من علماء العربية إلى هذا نذكر منهم الخليل بن أحمد الفراهيدي المتوفى 175 هـ وفي معرض كلامه عن كنعان بن سام ذكر ما نصه: "إليه ينسب الكنعانيون وكانوا يتكلمون بلغة تقارب العربية" (معجم العين للخليل 1/205). ومن ذلك ما ذكره ابن حزم: "فمن تدبر العربية والعبرانية السريانية أيقن أن اختلافها إنما هو من نحو ما ذكرنا من تبديل ألفاظ الناس على طول الأزمان واختلاف البلدان ومجاورة الأمم، وأنها لغة واحدة في الأصل" (الإحكام في اصول الأحكام لابن حزم 1/31).
ثانيا : كل الابجديات الأولى مثل الفينيقية والكتابات القديمة هي كتابات ولهجات للغة العربية المنطوقة واخر الدراسات توكد هذا وتضيف ان السنسكريتية والهيروغليفية والامازيغية اصلهم عربي
ايضا واسمح لي بمشاركتك بالمقال التالي:
اكد الدكتور جاسر أبو صفية ان اللغة العربية هي (ام اللغات) التي اتسعت وانتشرت في الارض شرقا وغربا واصبح لها تأثيرها عبر العصور فأخذت عنها بعض الامم مفردات وحروفا . و ان مقام اللغة العربية تاريخاً ومضموناً لا يمكن اختصاره ببعض الصفحات لما لها من أصالة وقدم يعود الى آلاف السنين ..حيث أن اللغة العربية هي سابقة جميع لغات العالم مبينا انها تعني كلام العرب على اختلاف شعوبهم وقبائلهم التي خرجت من جزيرة العرب قبل كتابة التاريخ بقرون طويلة والتي كان آخرها خروجهم يحملون الدين الإسلامي ولغة القرآن الكريم .
وهذه الشعوب هي الأنباط والحبشيون والقبطيون والسريانيون والعبرانيون بالإضافة إلى الأكديين والبابليين والأشوريين والعمونيين، والأراميين، والعيلاميين، والسومريين. و العديد من لغويي العالم تناولوا العربية كلغة اصيلة معتبرين انها أم اللغات
فالباحث الفرنسي بيير روسي ذكر صراحة أن اللغة العربية هي أم اللغات، والباحث الهندي كرامت حسين الكنتوري أكد بأدلة كثيرة أن اللغة العربية هي الأصل..
وقال الباحث الباكستاني محمد أحمد مظهر أن العربية هي التي تقدم للدارسين اوجه التشابه والاختلاف بين السنسكريتية واليونانية واللاتينية ..
وقال ان الباحث الألماني ماكس موللر اشار إلى أن أقدم اللغات تلك التي تكون أغنى من غيرها بالترادف والمشترك اللفظي، وقدم أمثلة من العربية على ذلك
.. وقال يسبيرسن.. إن أفضل لغة تلك التي تستطيع التعبير عن المعاني الكثيرة بألفاظ قليلة حيث من المعروف أن الاختصار سمة من سمات العربية، وهو ما يعرف بجوامع الكلم..
وقال أرنست رينان في كتابه /تاريخ اللغات السامية/ أنه لم يمض على فتح الأندلس أكثر من خمسين سنة حتى اضطر رجال الكنيسة الى ترجمة صلواتهم بالعربية . واضاف ابو صفية ان الأستاذ بجامعة اوكسفورد دافيد صمويل مرجليوث قال ان اللغة العربية أقدم من كل تاريخ ، كما ان المستشرق الأمريكي وليم ورل قال إن اللغة العربية لم تتقهقر فيما مضى أمام أي لغة أخرى من اللغات التي احتكت بها .
استاذ اللغة العربية الدكتور نبيل الجنابي قال ان اللغة العربية عاصرت البشرية وتعايشت معها منذ ان تكلم الانسان حتى اليوم..
إضافة : * اللغة العربية كانت تكتب قديما بالخط المسند اليمني وحديثا وجد انه كتب به في عام 5000 ق . م وهذا الخط وجد مكتوبا به الاف النقوش ووجد ايضا جنبا الى جنب مع الهيروغليفية في الحضارة الفرعونية على تابوت في منطقة سقارة في المقابر الملكية وهو موجود حاليا في متحف القاهرة وعند تحليل الرموز فان اسم صاحب التابوت هو ( زيد) ويقال انه تاجر يمني ..
* معجم الفردوس يحتوي على 25000 كلمة في اللغة الانجليزية اصلها عربي
... مع خالص احترامي وتقديري
قرأت كل شيء، جزء مني يتفق تماما مع ما قلته بالطبع لأن النص يحتوي على أشياء منطقية لكن جزء مني يظهر لي شيء ما... و طبعا قلت الفكر الذي تحمله بما أنك عربي جعلك ترى كل شيء من جهة واحدة "العربية اصل جميع اللغات" ما الذي يجعل اللغة العربية (التي هي من احدث اللغات السامية) أصل اللغات من جميع اللغات التي ربما عددها بالآلاف أو عشرات الآلاف؟ كفى تعظيم و تفخيم اللغة العربية، صحيح أن الشعوب القديمة في شبه الجزيرة العربية، الشام، بلاد الرافدين و بلاد الحبشة كانو يتحدثون بنفس اللغة تقريبا لكن مع لهجات مختلفة (المستشرقين و علماء اللغويات اطلقوا على هذه اللغة اسم "Proto-Semitic" أي لغة سامية أولية/بدائية) لكن اللهجات تتطور و تتفرع و تصبح لغات قائمة بذاتها و احد الاسباب ربما لقلة اتصال نفس متحدثي اللغة و يمكننا اعطاء مثال باللغات الرومانسية/اللاتينية، الفرنسية الايطالية و الاسبانية إلى آخره... طبعا نحن كعرب لن يكون لنا احساس ثقة بعلماء اللغويات و تاريخ اللغات، الذين جزء منهم غربيين و أنت تعلم من المؤثرين على كل شيء في عالمنا المعاصر، لكن لو كانت العربية كانت أصل اللغات، لماذا لو قارنت أي لغة (غير "سامية") جاءت في بالك مع العربية القديمة أو حتى العربية الحديثة هل تظن أن هناك تشابه بهم؟ هل تظن أن الأنبياء من المنظور الاسلامي و اليهودي تحدثوا العربية؟
Hebrew is the first language in the world. There are literally evidences that Hebrew is AT LEAST older than Arabic.
@@Bellarej350 لمزيد من التفاصيل يمكنك منابعة الدكتور احمد داوود والدكتور محمد بهجت القبيسي فهم متخصصين بهذا المجال ...علما اني ذكرت كلام اهل الاختصاص من غير العرب ايضا
@@achilles7607 كما قلت سابقا يجب التفريق اولا بين اللغة (المنطوقة) وبين الكتابة الرموز ....العبرية هي لهجة من لهجات العربية القديمة
@@intelmoe10 العبرية لهجة من لهجات الآرامية
DevnAgari, not DevaNgari
My bad, I'll watch my pronunciation next time
The way he pronounced cyrillic made me cringe
No hate just letting you know the first c is pronounced as an s