Apostrophe, Overnight Sensation, Dynamo Hum. So lucky to have seen him 4 times, once in Seattle at the Paramount, once in Tucson, and twice in LA.🙏🙏🙏🤍Om Swastyastu!!!🕉 RIP
In the fall of 1982, I went to live with my dad - I was 13. He loved music and played it constantly. One night he put “Just Another Band from L.A.” on the turntable & I was immediately hooked on that Album & Frank’s music from that day forward. I hit my Zappa AND Black Sabbath phases at that same time.
As a Zappa fan of well over 50 years, I've heard everything, and a LOT of the "not legally released" recordings, so I'm not going to dislike the posthumous releases. I'm so glad at the recent output of studio outtakes, rehearsals, etc. The live output is also amazing! ALL (or most of) the Roxy performances, the Halloween performances, etc. Recently my favorite is Funky Nothingness! Just guys playing, jamming, and creating! I LOVE the album! But all of that amazing music aside, I think there needs to be a You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore sequel! There are a few odd "bootleg" gems, but I think they need to dig deeper, and find more of the odds and ends! (and even release another roadcase!)
First Zappa and Mothers album I bought in 69/70 was We’re only in it for the money which was brilliant followed by Lumpy Gravy & Hot Rats…been a fan ever since.
Just going by the question asked in the title of this video and without bothering to actually watch the video, I was just going to say the same thing. Other than the minute-long arf song (which belongs on another album if you ask me), I think One Size Fits All is the most fitting album to get acquainted with Zappa, whether one is a musician or not.
I'm a geezer-81 y/o-who heard Freak Out the day it hit the stores. Seems like a good place to start. But then there's Hot Rats...Apostrophe...One Size...oh, hell, pick one & listen!
I heard the Yellow Snow album first, later I fell in love with Joe's Garage because of the guitar tones. I even created a highly customized guitar to get them.
I don't have Make A Jazz Noise Here, but I agree about the 2 others. I would also recommend Sheik Yerbouti as a Zappa-listening starting point, about as catchy as Zappa gets.
To me a good introduction is the mixture of "Them or Us" - something for everybody. My favourite album is the hilarious "We're only in it for the money".
Billy the Mountain. My intro was from fellow hammond B 3 player Vinnie Sussino from Brooklyn. He turned me onto Billy the mountain. A whole new structure/inrto to me about rock music alternatives to AM radio.
I do recognize that the ‘88 band was extremely proficient but I’m not excited about singling out certain bands; I feel an understanding for all eras of his musical career. My first album was We’re Only In It For The Money, and then Overnight Sensation. But I would recommend One Size Fits All or Hot Rats.
I started with Roxy & Elsewhere and I think many aspects of his music are there. It was amazing, better than Hot Rats which was the first I listened and It didn't caught me. I would recommend different albuns for different kind of listeners, but in general Roxy is a great introduction.
I guess it's nice to be comfortable with the conclusions you arrive at regarding art, (something that's to a large degree subjective). In my experience Zappa's 80's bands delivered clinical somewhat rote copies of earlier compositions and played too loud for the room when on tour, (at least during the six or seven shows I attended). The abbreviated and reggae treatments that some compositions got seemed formulaic and corny, at times almost like a marching band covering rock tunes. The Bobby Brown and Dancing Fool and I Don't Wanna Get Drafted stuff isn't what I'd send up in a Zappa time capsule. Some great compositions came from that period, but no albums from the 80's have the top to bottom compositional brilliance or the inventive quality of Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka, Sleep Dirt, or Grand Wazoo. The Frank Zappa album you should listen to first is probably the one that you have the best chance of connecting with. A classical music listener may want to go w/ Yellow Shark or Orchestral Favorites. Jazz listeners may prefer Grand Wazoo or Jean Luc Ponty plays the music of Frank Zappa. For Doo wop fifties listeners it's obviously Ruben and the Jets. Loud rock audiences, the Over-Nite Sensation, Bongo Fury, One Size Fits All period.
Impossible to answer , it all depends when and where you listened to certain albums . All excellent but some easier to get into , but that dies t mean they are the best .
For me it's Apostrophe, for someone who is interested but unexposed. Sheik Yerbouti, if you're not offended by the kind of songs you can't play at work. And if you are, then maybe FZ isn't the music for you...? As an Austinite I've gotta love Bongo Fury. Then there's Joe's Garage, Shut up and play your Guitar, and so many worth a listen though maybe not for first exposure. And the Mothers did some very fun records too, though the quality is a little uneven.
@@AdamsMusicBox Perhaps in terms of the way conservatory wunderkinds flocked to him as time went on. But my take on the quality of the music on Freak Out made me pause when I read your comment. Except (IMHO), for Help I'm A Rock and The Return of the Son of the Monster Magnet, (although one cannot help but suspect that these would be FZ's favorites from that album), the fact that Freak Out was made by a 25/26 year old kid making his first album in 1965/66 defies explanation. I mean where did this guy come from? I'm not sure when you came to this music, or if you're familiar with Freak Out. If not I recommend You Didn't Try to Call Me, Any Way the Wind Blows, I'm Not Satisfied & You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here (at least). The phrase ..."sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of the parts" comes to mind. When it comes to the question of how someone might start their FZ journey, I'll respond with the two I started with ...Freak Out & Hot Rats. I recommend the original vinyl versions as opposed to the 1987 remakes (although that could simply be a matter of what I became familiar with). Hope this didn't seem too adversarial Adam. You're comments seem quite insightful to me ...great content!
@@arttursh8324 I hear you and Freak Out was great. Zappa loved things played perfect the first time and that's why his bands got progressively more professional over the years. Even then he often said he preferred the Synclavier to human musicians because it didn't complain and did what it was told.
His early bands and players were much looser and more open to Frank's humour and experimentation even although he wasn't happy, or so he said, about their overall ability. His last band, for me, were rehearsed to death. A wet dream for people who like statistics...could play 300 songs and rehearsed 25 hours a day for 6 months etc etc.
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Live at the Roxy. No question about it for me.
Check out Roxy by Proxy, too.
That era was beyond amazing!!!
Either "Freak Out" or "One Size Fits All" maybe Joe's Garage.
A good place to start is Overnight sensation, apostrophe. These albums are 1973 and 1974. 👍
Apostrophe, Overnight Sensation, Dynamo Hum. So lucky to have seen him 4 times, once in Seattle at the Paramount, once in Tucson, and twice in LA.🙏🙏🙏🤍Om Swastyastu!!!🕉 RIP
In the fall of 1982, I went to live with my dad - I was 13.
He loved music and played it constantly. One night he put “Just Another Band from L.A.” on the turntable & I was immediately hooked on that Album & Frank’s music from that day forward.
I hit my Zappa AND Black Sabbath phases at that same time.
The first Zappa album I heard was Apostrophe. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't heard any Zappa music.
It's very accessible. I'd also follow it up with Overnight Sensation and Sheik Yerbouti.
RIP sir , your music changed my life ,
As a Zappa fan of well over 50 years, I've heard everything, and a LOT of the "not legally released" recordings, so I'm not going to dislike the posthumous releases. I'm so glad at the recent output of studio outtakes, rehearsals, etc. The live output is also amazing! ALL (or most of) the Roxy performances, the Halloween performances, etc. Recently my favorite is Funky Nothingness! Just guys playing, jamming, and creating! I LOVE the album! But all of that amazing music aside, I think there needs to be a You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore sequel! There are a few odd "bootleg" gems, but I think they need to dig deeper, and find more of the odds and ends! (and even release another roadcase!)
First Zappa and Mothers album I bought in 69/70 was We’re only in it for the money which was brilliant followed by Lumpy Gravy & Hot Rats…been a fan ever since.
One Size Fits All
Just going by the question asked in the title of this video and without bothering to actually watch the video, I was just going to say the same thing. Other than the minute-long arf song (which belongs on another album if you ask me), I think One Size Fits All is the most fitting album to get acquainted with Zappa, whether one is a musician or not.
My advise would be freak out.
His first album.
Not main stream and will give you a taste things to come.
Well Said!
Good points
I'm a geezer-81 y/o-who heard Freak Out the day it hit the stores. Seems like a good place to start. But then there's Hot Rats...Apostrophe...One Size...oh, hell, pick one & listen!
One Size Fits All, Hot Rats, Zoot Allures would be great starters
Lather. Its got something for everyone and includes The Adventures of Gregory Peccary.
I heard the Yellow Snow album first, later I fell in love with Joe's Garage because of the guitar tones. I even created a highly customized guitar to get them.
I don't have Make A Jazz Noise Here, but I agree about the 2 others. I would also recommend Sheik Yerbouti as a Zappa-listening starting point, about as catchy as Zappa gets.
Sheik Yerbouti. The drums on Rat Tomago together with Zappa's riffs. Thats it. Maybe Mc Laughlins Extrapolation is comparable in quality.
Apostrophe
To me a good introduction is the mixture of "Them or Us" - something for everybody.
My favourite album is the hilarious "We're only in it for the money".
Joes garage.
Billy the Mountain. My intro was from fellow hammond B 3 player Vinnie Sussino from Brooklyn. He turned me onto Billy the mountain. A whole new structure/inrto to me about rock music alternatives to AM radio.
Roxy and elsewhere would have to be my top pick. Apostrophe and anybody/anything during that time period IMO were the best yrs.
Thing fish rarely gets a mention and its a classic
I do recognize that the ‘88 band was extremely proficient but I’m not excited about singling out certain bands; I feel an understanding for all eras of his musical career. My first album was We’re Only In It For The Money, and then Overnight Sensation. But I would recommend One Size Fits All or Hot Rats.
I started with Roxy & Elsewhere and I think many aspects of his music are there. It was amazing, better than Hot Rats which was the first I listened and It didn't caught me.
I would recommend different albuns for different kind of listeners, but in general Roxy is a great introduction.
Overnite Sensation
I guess it's nice to be comfortable with the conclusions you arrive at regarding art, (something that's to a large degree subjective). In my experience Zappa's 80's bands delivered clinical somewhat rote copies of earlier compositions and played too loud for the room when on tour, (at least during the six or seven shows I attended). The abbreviated and reggae treatments that some compositions got seemed formulaic and corny, at times almost like a marching band covering rock tunes. The Bobby Brown and Dancing Fool and I Don't Wanna Get Drafted stuff isn't what I'd send up in a Zappa time capsule. Some great compositions came from that period, but no albums from the 80's have the top to bottom compositional brilliance or the inventive quality of Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka, Sleep Dirt, or Grand Wazoo. The Frank Zappa album you should listen to first is probably the one that you have the best chance of connecting with. A classical music listener may want to go w/ Yellow Shark or Orchestral Favorites. Jazz listeners may prefer Grand Wazoo or Jean Luc Ponty plays the music of Frank Zappa. For Doo wop fifties listeners it's obviously Ruben and the Jets. Loud rock audiences, the Over-Nite Sensation, Bongo Fury, One Size Fits All period.
Impossible to answer , it all depends when and where you listened to certain albums . All excellent but some easier to get into , but that dies t mean they are the best .
Joe's Garage 1-3
Start off with Freak Out and then simply follow the instructions. You may find the eighties a bit sterile and humourless but it's still Frank!
For me it's Apostrophe, for someone who is interested but unexposed.
Sheik Yerbouti, if you're not offended by the kind of songs you can't play at work. And if you are, then maybe FZ isn't the music for you...?
As an Austinite I've gotta love Bongo Fury.
Then there's Joe's Garage, Shut up and play your Guitar, and so many worth a listen though maybe not for first exposure.
And the Mothers did some very fun records too, though the quality is a little uneven.
Loved the Flo and Eddie years
Live at Filmore East 71…great fun.
Hot Rats , maybe
Apostrophe
Asked in an interview did he like his earlier music? “Not much.”
OK, but I do! :)
Adam's Music Box- You said that FZ's first band was his worst band. Does it follow that you think Freak Out is his worst album?
His first band was his worst from the point of view of music technique, his last band was the best in that sense
@@AdamsMusicBox Perhaps in terms of the way conservatory wunderkinds flocked to him as time went on. But my take on the quality of the music on Freak Out made me pause when I read your comment. Except (IMHO), for Help I'm A Rock and The Return of the Son of the Monster Magnet, (although one cannot help but suspect that these would be FZ's favorites from that album), the fact that Freak Out was made by a 25/26 year old kid making his first album in 1965/66 defies explanation. I mean where did this guy come from? I'm not sure when you came to this music, or if you're familiar with Freak Out. If not I recommend You Didn't Try to Call Me, Any Way the Wind Blows, I'm Not Satisfied & You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here (at least). The phrase ..."sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of the parts" comes to mind. When it comes to the question of how someone might start their FZ journey, I'll respond with the two I started with ...Freak Out & Hot Rats. I recommend the original vinyl versions as opposed to the 1987 remakes (although that could simply be a matter of what I became familiar with). Hope this didn't seem too adversarial Adam. You're comments seem quite insightful to me ...great content!
@@arttursh8324 I hear you and Freak Out was great. Zappa loved things played perfect the first time and that's why his bands got progressively more professional over the years. Even then he often said he preferred the Synclavier to human musicians because it didn't complain and did what it was told.
@@AdamsMusicBox ...& wouldn't decide it hated the bass DSP.
His early bands and players were much looser and more open to Frank's humour and experimentation even although he wasn't happy, or so he said, about their overall ability. His last band, for me, were rehearsed to death. A wet dream for people who like statistics...could play 300 songs and rehearsed 25 hours a day for 6 months etc etc.
Apostrophe