Is this the best deal in emulation right now?
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I've been told that the Powkiddy X55 is a great value for what it can handle (N64, DS and PSP emulation). But my experience raises some questions...
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It's crazy seeing how far some of these handhelds have come since just a few years ago
i was getting tired of emulation devices capping out at psx bc the psp could handle all of it.
I dunno on one hand I agree but also this thing should be more powerful than an Ouya that came out a decade ago. Seems about the same based on the emulation.
@@dirediredude Did anyone use the Ouya for emulation? I always thought it was a completely different market. And tbh I think you get way more bang for your buck with better screens and overall ease of use. Especially because their technically cheaper now
@@chilidogs083 yeah that's basically what it became shortly after it launched. Their "marketplace" was pretty slim and after a year or two development slowed down a lot but turns out it was a solid emulation box. Retroarch came with it and you could run everything up to N64/PlayStation without much issue.
@@jennyholiday88PSP could not handle N64 emulation, I remember it was a lot of trouble. Not sure if someone has made a good N64 emulator for PSP after its heyday as a technical showcase but definitely the ports of daedelus64 were so slow.
The surfshark ad was too real 😢
Sup wood good to see ya here
Also hopefully you got your discord account back
@beatemups felt that burn
I immediately thought of you lol
He told me it actually happened? #wulffdendad
This was my first physical emulation device that wasn't a PC and I love it so far. I've mainly been using it for GBA, DS, and the occasional simple PSP titles like Patapon. It just feels better to me to play handheld games with a handheld instead of on my PC. I can't explain it. Maybe it's nostalgic or something.
Same
Makes sense. Some games just click in your hands. Lots of puzzle/rythem games i feel play great natively on handheld.
Zero latency on handheld. I can't play rhythm games on TV
Why not use phone with ds4 controller?
@@daorkykid biggest thing is battery life of my phone is precious, and for the price, this gives me a dedicated device for my retro games. I've considered a separate phone with controller, but the price here is just tough to argue with
I love how he shows the lag and everything unlike other youtubers that obly show the good stuff
After thinking about it a bit, having L3 (left stick click) as the cursor press button makes a ton of sense when you consider that using R3 would cause the cursor to move, and make it insanely difficult to either click and drag, or draw.
It also avoids accidentally clicking if pressing too hard when trying to scroll in those heat of the moments of CoD. I think it'd still be weird but it may be more optimal.
Maybe R2 (or R1 if switched) like the Steamdeck would be more intuitive though
When they do come out with clamshell emulators, I hope they allow us to use the bottom screen for efficient music apps while playing single-screen games up top.
That is brilliant! I hope so too.
Any word? I'm holding out on a good clamshell device
Dual screen emulator handhelds arent going to be a thing for a while or ever, there's just not much reasons to make one as its only for a niche crowd
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You want well designed software and a usable piece of hardware? /s
But honestly, you'll probably have to wait for a custom firmware to make it work correctly anyway
I mean the retroid pocket flip exists but iirc bob gave it a scathing review and it was either at the start of or in the middle of the bob retroid hate arc
My dream machine would be the X55 design, 405M hardware, and RP 2S joysticks
I love how the first game shown is Perfect Dark.
A digital masterpiece that will forever stand the test of time. And having it set in the year 2023 makes it so nostalgic.
I just pulled the trigger on the X55 today. First time buying an emu device. I chose this one because what I really wanted was "Access to the GBA library on my Switch" and this is about the closest thing I could find under $100. I like the large screen (eyes are getting old), and I like the larger, horizontal form factor (more comfortable to hold for extended times). This video tells me I think I made the right choice! Not interested in the cheaper vertical layouts, and don't need to run N64 or any 3D games at all, really.
I picked this up after the glowing Retro Game Corps review and been bummed it doesn't seem to be as enjoyable for a lot of other reviewers. That said, this is my first retro gaming handheld and I've been enjoying it a lot. JELOS has ran really nicely and I love the big screen. Obviously it's not pixel perfect, but the smaller screens just feel so cramped for me regardless of intended aspect ratio. I also wanted the horizontal form factor and two analog sticks which I wouldn't have gotten with MM+. I will probably upgrade to something more powerful at some point, but in terms of dipping my toes in the hobby and spending a little more for a few specific features I wanted I'm quite happy with the purchase.
“Imagine if your phone started playing music every time you unlock it”
Oh man I used to have Wii music set up on my phone for some apps and the home screen I missed those days
When he said this it made me think about all the old bootups and their music. I believe even the PS4 had some themes with music built in. Still would be nice to give the option to turn it off easily though
Vertical could be cool, DS and Arcade emulation would be great
They'd have to get the stacking correct, though. So many DS emulators just smash the two screens together, and no. That's wrong. The gap between the two screens was accounted for in many games, and smashing the two screens together makes them look awful.
I could watch Bob talk about retro handhelds ALL DAY BABY‼️
I totally agree on the sweet spots. It is mostly an insignificant half-step in the area between the sweet spots. Great review.
3:20 that shut up got me lol
i personally like the sound, especially if its customizable
I would like to see more MAME tests. Rarely people test MAME on these devices.
i wish mame wasnt an ass to set up and get roms
You should revisit the RG35XX with the newer custom firmwares they've added psp emulation as well as dreamcast. (not sure how controls work yet) but some psp games might be doable if your desperate enough.
I don't really know what else there is to say about it that Retro Game Corp didn't already say in his video on the topic. It runs now those systems..sorta.
The only psp games the 35xx can run are PSP minis and maybe a few 2d platformers and they drain the battery. The new retroid pocket 2s is the best value "under $100"
I use to use a DS Lite with an R4 card for DS. Now, I just use my Retroid Pocket 2+ for DS, and it works like a dream. I use the Drastic emulator, turn it sideways to get the vertical dual screen and control it with a $20 wireless controller that I connect directly to my 2+ using the controller’s wireless usb-c receiver dongle.
Nice setup! Which controller do you use and what do you think of it?
Man, I remember buying my gpd XD and was so excited to receive it. It was 250 then, now I’m considering upgrading to one of these beauties.
Your dog was terrified during ad recording, hope that you will grant him some awesome snacks for his hard work :)
I think 4:3 screens make the most sense for dedicated emulation handhelds. Every single console up through Dreamcast, Gamecube, & PS2 was designed for 4:3. Even the DS has 4:3 screens. Unfortunately all the game boys have weird unique aspect ratios, but the GB/GBC screen at a nearly-square 10:9 is much better suited to 4:3 than it is to 16:9. GBA is a little wider than 4:3, so it can go either way. PSP and Wii are the first systems you'd really wanna have widescreen for. At that point, I'd probably just get the 4:3 system and try to run widescreen stuff on my phone
This is why I get so nervous when wanting to buy one of these products. I just watched retro gaming Corps video on this system and he got a lot of those games to work just fine without doing anything I believe but in this video they run like crap. These systems seem so hit and miss.
I have one. Feels cheap, but works well. Nice screen, speakers sound well and get loud and it performs well overall for the price. I recommend updating the stock JELOS to the latest, at minimum fixes the slow boot issue OOB. I've played DC/Saturn w/o issue, N64 is hit and miss, mostly hit. Its been my daily driver since I bought it about 4 weeks ago. Mainly because of its 5 in screen and its lightweight and ergo feel. paid under $100 shipped which included the case and screen protector. no regrets with it so far other than its cheap feel.
Did it include memory card with games? It seems its more costly if u want 20 000 games included with external memory card
Its weird how the PSPGO that I gave some work over 10 years ago still performs better than these more expensive devices.
Performs better for what systems ?
Totally agree with the $100 price point observation. Puts you in a strange spot where most/some things work. I want things to either work or not.
I'm just here for the embedded ads, they are so good!
I got the RG505P for $115 via Anbernic's sale recently.
I think the Retroid Pocket 2S is the one to get under $100
Probably. I just wish it had a bigger screen...
It’s so strange we don’t have clamshells. Back when I used my Odin more, I used to use a GameSir X2 on it so that I could hold the console vertically and play DS that way lol
I really want a system where the screen rotates 90 degrees for DS and TATE mode. There are so many great SHMUPS, pinball, and Android games that need a tall screen to work right.
I bought it recently and I can say - it has some quirks, but overall a great device. Even a few PSP are playable, incredible!
7:48 The best DS and 3DS emulation for me is on the original Surface duo. Two big beautiful Screensaver, and Effortless emulation of the console.
I’d love to do just that but the used prices for those phones is insane
@@stevenneaves8079 yeah $300+ without a controller. may as well get a 3DS. The Duo plays PS2 though.
I just wanted a device to stream everything (except maybe NES, SNES, GB, GBA) from my PC.
I wanted something to play anywhere in my house and this device was perfect for local streaming. Obviously every emulator runs like butter, because it’s actually running on my desktop PC.
My network only adds about 1 to 4ms of latency, and I estimate that encoding and decoding adds another 7 ms, that means that latency doesn’t even add up to 1 frame (at 60 fps, which is what the X55 is capable of displaying).
The X55 has a lot of things going against it but mostly the rising competition of T618 chips at around the $100-$150 price point. Also waiting 5 weeks from it to get from China when ordering direct had me in the mean time buying the Miyoomini plus, the anbernic 353m, the data frog sf2000, and watching all of these retro handheld review channels. TheFOMO is strong.
I just modded a wii it plays all the way up to wii games as well as gcn from roms (legally ripped from my own disks of course) Im working out DS emulation rn
I can't put into words how much I dislike asymmetrical joystick placement. I say that as someone who has played his launch day switch lite daily until the Steam Deck was released.
I personally think that a DSi(or even 3DS, but that isnt directly the same hardware as its slightly emulated) is a better option for DS emulation as you dont need a cart for either
3DS is great, but has gotten expensive nowadays...
I followed the trend and hacked a DSI XL and it's awesome. Definitely better than searching for an R4 without potential timebomb issues. The lack of a game boy port would be an issue but you can emulate those too.
I think an actual ds is the best option. It's cheaper, easier and obviously authentic with zero compatibility issues.
You know if all social media platforms would just play the advertisements you make Bob I wouldn't even have an ad blocker Love it!
I thought this was going to be a great sub $100 handheld but the lack of features that are standard on many handhelds around the $100 mark makes it less appealing.
When Retro Game Corps reviewed this a month ago, he recommended turning the CPU governor to "performance". Hope that helps~
And frameskip on games Like GTA Libery/Vice Stories
@@MrBlazingninja and they are still unplayable with that, especially liberty city stories
I completely agree. For pre-PS1 games I got myself a miyoo mini and RP4pro for everything else.
Now I’m thinking about getting an additional Retroid 2s. The 3x4 screen is ideal for Nintendo consoles + it comes in indigo color, like my GBA.
Believe it or not, that dog was 100% CGI, what a time to be alive 🤯
I just want to get a 3ds but HOLY CRAP!!! Talk about Expensive... I kick myself everyday for getting rid of my 3ds back in the day... I did not know anything about the modding community back then like I do now.
The background music is still 100% less annoying than the Switch button noise YOU CAN NOT TURN OFF WITHOUT MUTING THE SWITCH!
I’m ordering the 256 g version today on the website you can also get a carry case for it - this version of the device comes with 30,000 games!
3:50
I installed a plugin just to play music on my steam Deck home screen.
Not sure why your mistaking the lack of this for a convenience, people really want to play music on their handhelds home screens to add personality and theming.
We didn't leave it behind out of dislike. Nobody asked for Nintendo to disable music on the 3DS, it was the best part of having 3DS themes and I have no idea why you would even dislike it unless you couldn't change the music.
*Anbernic and retroid takes note of his ideas*
im really constipated right now and listing to ur reviews really helps thx bahb
listening
"Thats cute..." - me while playing my steam deck
I think is great for ps1 emulation, all the others at this price point have way smaller screen or no stack shoulders button, or non analog at all.
Your dog is defiantly trolling you :)
Good news DS is now fully working on Miyoo Mini Plus.
The latest garlic OS plus the latest drastic is great.
Don't think PSP will ever be able to be done, but the fact that DS was able to be done is amazing.
How don’t he have 1mill yet I been watching him for awhile he always have high quality videos
With the RG35XX if you install Koriki OS on it you can run ds, n64, psp, dreamcast. Most of the time its not great but ds is mostly ok as long as it does not need a touch screen and for psp as long as it doesnt need the 2 joysticks. I havent tested dreamcast much. Overall Koriki os emulates existing systems better and with more options and adds some new systems and a higher (optional) clock speed.
Whatever sponsers are paying, they should double it for how great the ad quality is. Bob is the only content creators that I don’t skip fast forward through the ads
Its crazy how the PSP came out in like, 2004, and here we are all the way in 2023/2024, and theres handhelds like the Powkiddy X55 that really arent that much stronger than it, and struggle so much on PSP/PS1 games. Not saying the PSP is a strong contender, but if youre making these handhelds in 2024, you need to have them at least be stronger than a $50 PSP off Ebay.
I for one miss when game consoles had character, so I'm all for music in the ui
came for the info, and the video immediately opens with megaman legends music
I'm waiting for devices that just have a square screen, so that content can be both landscape or portrait, and it will be displayed with the least rescaling as possible either way. Honestly, I'm waiting for phone camera image sensors to become square, so that no matter how you're holding your phone you can get the perfect photo framing for whatever format you want. TikTok portrait, RUclips landscape, or Instagram square.
The Nontendo podcast made me fall in love with you! Now I come for your advice on the best handheld emulator. I trust no other opinions.
Update. Got one myself. It's great! However if you plan to game stream. Skip it, bad wifi and wifi dongles even driver free dongles, do not work sadly.
You really should get the 2S and compare it to the 2+. the difference is quite impressive performance wise.
would love to see an update on the x55 w jelos losing support and rocknix taking over
nice using wood's traumatic hack experience as an ad lol but that really is the best advertisement for the VPN service
How you gonna place an advert during the sponsor lmao
For DS emulation, I would like to see a feature that lets you hold a button to "peek" at the secondary screen just so you can input commands and then releasing it snaps back to your main screen where the action takes place. I usually don't need to look at both screens at once for extended periods of time.
be so opttimal for most ds pokemon games fr
Been playing Melee with my Pixel Fold, its insane how smooth the emulation is with Bluetooth controller connected. Almost no delay noticed to me. (Although I'm a casual player lol)
I absolutely love emulation, and I love dogs 🐕 too. Awesome Segway Mr. Wulff!
Most chinese handhelds other than the RG35XX or MM+ are not worth it. These two handhelds, on the other hand, are perfect in what they do, while all others come with compromises. I'd like something as perfect as possible in what it does.
To cover my 64 bit+ emulation gap I'm using a Galaxy S22 + PS5 Dual Sense controller + phone clamp, and it's one of the best and most ergonomic handhelds I've ever had, and still reasonably portable.
Would be awesome with a two screen emulator device say running Android: you have other content like a music player or say the strategy guide on the second screen while you're playing. Or if you're like my son you can have the RUclips play through on one screen and your game on the other.
I've been wanting a portable retro gaming device that can play all the 6th generation of gaming consoles for 20+ years ever since I discovered emulation and the existence of the GP32.
The sweet spot for me is a device that can run God of War for PS2 at 60fps at 1x resolution with no noticeable slowdown for under $150. O
ther than laptops and an Xperia Play I only owned for a year before accidentally losing it, I did buy the OG RG350 and then a V90 just to learn the devices and tie me over till I get my third and final device, and the X55 does come close!
I been waiing for a long vertical screen device for long for DS emulation, I think the perfect moment for it would be when Citra 3DS emulation is at least very good so you can have such device for NDS and also 3DS games, well worth it.
if I can find a retro handheld that has the premium quality of the Analogue Pocket but actually shipped shortly after purchasing, I'd be so happy
Just picked up an OG Switch for modding today for $100. Probably won't look back for a while. Ill still watch your vids about these tho
speaking of new designs and dual screen devices - i didn’t realize until you said this but i’d KILL for a PSP Go clone that can emulate and stream. I loved that device.
I would love to see some sort of guide that sort of establishes "as of current date, and investment of x will get you y systems emulated well" and just break down the sweet spots along with what they run well. Along with that, somewhat establish the hierarchy of difficulty to run for the 3D emulated platforms. I'm beginning to lose track of which emulators need the most horsepower, especially when it comes to N64, PS2, Dreamcast, and Gamecube/Wii. Even establishing "if you want to run this emulator for 90% of games, expect to spend around x" would be helpful for knowing what to expect.
Hey after the ad you did on the RED MAGIC 8S PRO i got it. It's awesome, could you do a video on emulating games on it?
Ever since the a20 powkiddy I can’t trust powkiddy unless Bob makes a review
Why what happened
powkiddy rarely makes any improvements
This really does make it seem like a 50 dollar hacked PSP can do more but cheaper
That doggo is the cutest.. lol. I love your video's I wish there were more.
I don't know what counts as a front end but both the Wii and the steam big picture mode used to have "music"
My guyyyy thanks so much for using the megaman legends soundtrack, warms my heart and soul.
I love hearing Megaman Legends music in your videos. Thanks for keeping it around man.
Perfect timing, I was just getting that emulation itch the other day.
I had the Miyoo mini, the mini +, the rg35xx, the 353m and now the Retroid pocket 3+ with the custom grip. When you ahve hands on the bigger side you cant confortably use the mini or the xx for og periods, and teh X55 I found it at 70 USD free shipping on aly this past promo weekend. In the end you are correct! 65 is the sweetspot for under PSP, but this X55 is perfect for people with bigger hands. So recoemnded if you can find it on the 70ish pricepoint. Otherwise... is up to confort.
the surfshark commercial was prime
I had no idea Moist Critical talked to his dog.
You are so right about the DS emulation and considering the performance on the PSP, it may be the sad commercial reality of handheld game emulation that a used Vita and a used 2DS XL (or even and DS consoles) are still either a lot more portable, have better screen resolution, have unique features or are cheaper than emulators to play DS and PSP generation games. When it comes to Vita and 3DS, well, that just makes the industry defunct.
For the music part, these OS were made to be a DYI arcade solution, and and they wanted to emulate some arcade where they had music playing when not in use. They just left it on by default here
It’s the dial up noises for me
For people with small screens you can easily play DS games, this is because most DS games have only one dedicated screen you're playing on, all you have to do is a set a dedicated button to switch between screens, you don't need a huge screen, though I would say a touchscreen is absolutely necessary.
The rg35xx new cfw, koriki, can play a couple of nds, n64, dreamcast and psp. As far as the psp goes, it can play need for speed most wanted pretty good. Majority of the 2D games are playable as long as the games do not require an analog stick or touch screen 😅
It blows my mind that he and his dog sound alike. My dog sounds nothing like me.
Since its Linux I think it would be cool to see it being used like a small Linux computer.
Ok, but hear me out: What if your phone played the pause menu music from Goldeneye when you unlocked it?
imagine if this had the 405m screen
If you dont plan on travelling with it just get a used mini PC like an HP Mini for $60 to $80 bucks and just run everything.
this is the best device ergonomicly. too, way more comfortable then my pocket 3+
I wonder how these emulation devices stack up against a PSP loaded with roms. 🤔
I think that would make an interesting video
They stack up greatly
Hey, Bob! I'd be interested to see you talk about emulation on non -portable computers such as raspberry pi.