Why are you saying Wonder Woman broke a rule? She grew up as a warrior; killing the enemy to save a friend is literally what she would have been trained to do
TheRichmaster being trained to do something and actually doing it is two different things. Just because you are trained as an assasian and how to shoot a gun doesn't mean you've actually killed someone.
J Tube, Deadpool isn't a superhero, he is an anti hero and he never set any rules for himself. Sorry for seemin like a douche its just you cant use dead pool as an example for superheros lol
Not only is it Okay, but it is morally correct. It is unmoral to allow a villain to take an innocent life without stoping them, and if it takes a bullet to the head--so be it.
It's not deadpool style it's any rational human being I might get not killing petty criminals like thieves but murderers the only one I understand not killing anybody is young teenage Peter Parker because he's a teenager and he knows he couldn't deal with the guilt but it I personally was mature Peter I would kill to save a life not everyone but murderers like cletus you know rare exceptions.
So basically 9 times superheroes killed someone and that 1 time Flash screwed with time. Also, most of the DC heroes in this video (with the exception of Batman) don’t actually have rules against killing people. They just prefer not to
that's an excuse tho. these people are supposed to be the best and if i can live by a moral system that i havent broken, they can definitely do it. they have powers to make it even easier
I'm tired of people acting like heroes are suppose to be squeaky clean and 100% pure morality.... if I had powers and anyone be it darkseid or Lex or even a mugger threatens my family...best be sure they would be dust by the time I'm done with them
@@jose_joestar4228 first off eating anything and not gaining weight is not a power it's good metabolism...and second of all the power that comes close to that is matter ingestion/ infinite digestion....so that means I could eat the threat like glutton from full metal alchemist
Heroes are people too, or aliens with the same moral values, and all of them have a breaking point or have to make difficult decisions just as anyone has done at least once in their life. I can understand that they would never dare to do such thing but when words are not enough and cell bars are unable to contain them... Then I guess all there is left is that you tried.
Batman does not kill the Joker at the end of the killing joke. While it is open to interpretation, the Joker returns in further comics and the script written by Alan Moore says that Batman and the Joker fall onto each other laughing, no mention of him killing the Joker.
The very first person peter parker punched, after receiving his powers, died on his way to the hospital. Thats when spider man discovered hed have to pull his punches. All spider man. No symbiote or man spider involved.
in my honest opinion it's only okay for a superhero to break their own rule especially if it's a no kill rule only when it's necessary only when the situation becomes too dire and there is literally nothing else that can be done like with Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord because that's the only way Superman could be saved it's a tough rule to break but sometimes certain rules need to be broken in order for lives to be saved
I personally like when superheros occasionally cross that rule of never killing because it brings them to a relatable level where you realize that they either just did what they were forced to do in order to save lives or sometimes they make mistakes or can be pushed over the edge and THAT IS OK because it puts them on a level where they feel human, like at the end of the day they aren't that different from you or I, plus I don't understand how a superhero who's saved thousands, millions, the entire world or sometimes even the universe kills one person to stop their murder spree and it's suddenly a bad thing? Like for real, Batman: "here I just killed the guy that's been murdering innocent people for the last 5 years and stopped his ultimate plot to kill a couple million more" The Public & Readers: "OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE HOW COULD YOU YOU AREN'T OUR HERO ANYMORE"
As the saying goes "with great power comes great responsibility", but what alot of ppl (real or characters) tend to forget is that it is a person under that mask and no one is perfect.
I think sometimes you have to forget your rules in order to do the right thing or to save lives , it doesnt matter if you cross that line , the only thing that matters is that you will save milllions of lives
What they said about the killing joke is false the ending is decided by the reader you can believe he was choking the joker or just grabbing his shoulders while he laughed
WW has a great quote to superman "their is a reason I don't have a list of villians as long as batman or you. When I deal with them, I DEAL with them."
Okay, let's stop right here at Batman and The Killing Joke. The entire point of that story is that the ending is ambiguous. The reader/watcher is never actually given an answer, and the impact of it all hinges on never knowing the answer. Therefore, using The Killing Joke as an example of Batman committing murder butchers the whole storyline and leaves a horrible impression on anyone who hasn't read the actual book. Repulsive move, guys.
Canon ending to the killing joke is that they're just laughing, back when it was made it had the intent to seem ambiguous, but nowadays we have full confirmation that Batman didn't kill the Joker back then
I was surprised you never brought up the comic where Superman kills The Joker. He was given this gas that made him think he was killing Doomsday when it was really Lois Lane. That also set off a nuclear bomb in Metropolis. It was later converted into the video game Injustice.
From what I understand, “The Other” is actually one of THREE totems of spider powers. One comes from mutations, one comes from magic, and one comes from other means (hence the term “the other”), but I might not understand very well at all.
Wonder woman doesn't have a no kill rule. She once mentioned that the reason she doesn't have a rogues gallery as long as superman or batman is because she "finishes the job"
• Peter Quill’s emotions took over because Nebula didn’t keep her mouth shut and half of the universe turned to ash • Loki didn’t lie about the Tesseract and Thanos killed him • Gamora didn’t go left and Thanos killed her • Thor didn’t go for the head and Thanos snapped his fingers IMPORTANT: You know his Vision can like make it so when someone tries to punch him their hand goes through him? He could have done that when Thanos took the Mind stone! If even one of these mistakes didn’t happen the universe would probably be okay.
Darth Michael sort of like watching a karate movie where the guy gets kicked in the head 7 times in a row and gets up like nothing happened and fights back. You know he couldn't possibly do that. His brain would be gone so yeah hanging upside down for hours would kill you. (grins)
You either die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. = Every teenager is a hero and every old timer is villain ? What ? goodnight
India Rocks Doomsday ressurected and that doesn't count since he did not actually killed Doomsday. How can you also forgot about Doomsday can ressurect and can prevent that way of dying again?
Which is worse: killing the bad guy or letting him live knowing that he will eventually kill again? (They ALWAYS do!) Sometimes the bad guy just plain needs to die.
Batman knocked down two face and the little boy and when he fallen off he tried to save both but in the process only able to save the Gordon’s boy, so technically speaking: Batman killed Harvey Dent - Two Face
Wonder Woman never has mentioned to have that rule she is an amazon warrior, the only reason she took that rule was due Bats and Sups, but she is willing to do what's required even killing her foes.
Because I have always noticed dc to be more “perfect beings”, I feel like they should never have to cross the line. But Marvel always seemed more human. Humans make mistakes. Humans are emotional, and are driven by those emotions. So I appreciate when Marvel characters overstep boundaries, because in most of the situations, normal people would too.
Why are you saying Wonder Woman broke a rule? She grew up as a warrior; killing the enemy to save a friend is literally what she would have been trained to do
TheRichmaster being trained to do something and actually doing it is two different things. Just because you are trained as an assasian and how to shoot a gun doesn't mean you've actually killed someone.
Derek Hunter sounds like something you pay for a fun time
@@derekhunter5040 it's a assasian a person that kicks ass
WTF Wonder woman has killed plenty of villians and evil creatures.
Michael Kyle Right? You can't convince me that any hero that uses a sword has never killed.
Michael Kyle ya I mean look at deadpool swords=killing people
J Tube, Deadpool isn't a superhero, he is an anti hero and he never set any rules for himself. Sorry for seemin like a douche its just you cant use dead pool as an example for superheros lol
ShadeBlade02 , I know that's what I'm trying to get to
wonder woman never made a rule not to kill people
There's been a number of times Spidey's broke his own rules and went really dark.
the flash too
There's been a number of times Spidey's broke his own rule and went dark.
Lil Uchiha In which comic did he do that?
There was that "Miles Morales" version too where the old Spider-Man kills The Lizard... and then he dies too.
venom
"You either die as a hero or you live long enough to become a villain."
Thor
Captain America broke his language rule
What language rule? :)
@@ladyravendragon2381
No cursing on screen ( Age of Ultron)
Adam Lammert yea, he said a bad language word 😂😂😂
He will just swear at you and you will cry
Adam Lammert yeah 😂
I love it when they’re like “hey Steve, he just said a bad language word”
🤣🤣🤣
Punisher did not break his rule. His rule is to kill those who deserves it. And he thaught that the superheroes deserved it
WolfRex What if I told you that you were right my nigga
WolfRex *thought*
"We wonder if Parker is going to cross the line in his upcoming movie Spiderman Homecoming" well his suit definetly wants him to
Spider man has killed just about all of his girlfriend's
Instant Kill?😂
MINIGUNS ACTIVATE!!!
No Karen just has a lot of anger from a dark place
What if Peter kills Iron man/ Tony Stark somehow, that would be so f*ckn sad
I mean, I think that it's okay for superheroes to kill, but ONLY as a last resort.
Deadpool style
Not only is it Okay, but it is morally correct. It is unmoral to allow a villain to take an innocent life without stoping them, and if it takes a bullet to the head--so be it.
It's not deadpool style it's any rational human being I might get not killing petty criminals like thieves but murderers the only one I understand not killing anybody is young teenage Peter Parker because he's a teenager and he knows he couldn't deal with the guilt but it I personally was mature Peter I would kill to save a life not everyone but murderers like cletus you know rare exceptions.
Person Man Cletus would be difficult. Maybe possible, if I'm not mistaken in the comics deadpool achieved that
I Think superheroes should just KILL KILL KILL!! I love seeing things die
So basically 9 times superheroes killed someone and that 1 time Flash screwed with time. Also, most of the DC heroes in this video (with the exception of Batman) don’t actually have rules against killing people. They just prefer not to
Batman and Spiderman.
@@thomasfplm They said, "with the exception of Batman." And they specified DC.
ive noticed that its mostly dc heroes breaking rules
you are right I noticed that too
Did you you even watch Avengers civil war.... Every single one of them broke the rules 😂🤔
@@reece6258 What did Spiderboi do.
@@Sixty.6 do you mind telling me who 'spiderboi' is
Reece Scrowston the kid, the one with spider powers. Claims he is Spiderman?
Yes, they broke their one rule, but it was going to happen as some point. Most rules get broken at some point.
yeh flash on the cw makes a promise every season and then actually brakes it.
Sheryl Richards so true!
that's an excuse tho. these people are supposed to be the best and if i can live by a moral system that i havent broken, they can definitely do it. they have powers to make it even easier
I have a rule that won't be broken right here ---> I must not live forever. There ya go.
Penelope Views I have broken practically all of my school rules several times
I am not a very well behaved 11 year girl !!!
i love that he said wonder woman is coming in a few months...
Warfare Kittens they probably film these weeks before uploading
Warfare Kittens hahaha savage
OrlandoTheSmurf how do you know he is?
Warfare Kittens love
Warfare Kittens Giggity
This should be called Top 10 Superheroes that's killed😂😂😂😂😂
🔨+⚡️=THOR
Yeah
XxToxic GamerxX Yup I said the same thing
Ez
@Christopher Losoya Shazam doesn't use a hammer
Ya
I'm tired of people acting like heroes are suppose to be squeaky clean and 100% pure morality.... if I had powers and anyone be it darkseid or Lex or even a mugger threatens my family...best be sure they would be dust by the time I'm done with them
MsKillonight what if your super power is you can eat anything you want and not gain weight. Someone threatens your family you gonna have a meal
@@jose_joestar4228 first off eating anything and not gaining weight is not a power it's good metabolism...and second of all the power that comes close to that is matter ingestion/ infinite digestion....so that means I could eat the threat like glutton from full metal alchemist
MsKillonight D
Heroes are people too, or aliens with the same moral values, and all of them have a breaking point or have to make difficult decisions just as anyone has done at least once in their life. I can understand that they would never dare to do such thing but when words are not enough and cell bars are unable to contain them... Then I guess all there is left is that you tried.
MsKillonight thanos would be pleased with you dusting them 😂😂😂
Batman does not kill the Joker at the end of the killing joke. While it is open to interpretation, the Joker returns in further comics and the script written by Alan Moore says that Batman and the Joker fall onto each other laughing, no mention of him killing the Joker.
BeastWing i
yea because Superman killed Joker eventually because joker killed Louis Lane
Lucifer Morningstar Yeah, I mean, if it were me, I would have killed him
Lucifer Morningstar that's in injustice not the main universe
BeastWing there has been more than one joker
If spiderman killed when he turned into a spider that doesn't count because he was being controlled by the spider so that's wrong.
zaki bereia venom* it’s a symbiotic spider..
zaki bereia Your right
symbiote
Still killed before
The very first person peter parker punched, after receiving his powers, died on his way to the hospital. Thats when spider man discovered hed have to pull his punches.
All spider man. No symbiote or man spider involved.
in my honest opinion it's only okay for a superhero to break their own rule especially if it's a no kill rule only when it's necessary only when the situation becomes too dire and there is literally nothing else that can be done like with Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord because that's the only way Superman could be saved it's a tough rule to break but sometimes certain rules need to be broken in order for lives to be saved
Peyton Sawyer
If i'm correct Superman hated that choice that Wonder Women made
If Batman had killed the joker, less lives would have been lost.
I personally like when superheros occasionally cross that rule of never killing because it brings them to a relatable level where you realize that they either just did what they were forced to do in order to save lives or sometimes they make mistakes or can be pushed over the edge and THAT IS OK because it puts them on a level where they feel human, like at the end of the day they aren't that different from you or I, plus I don't understand how a superhero who's saved thousands, millions, the entire world or sometimes even the universe kills one person to stop their murder spree and it's suddenly a bad thing? Like for real,
Batman: "here I just killed the guy that's been murdering innocent people for the last 5 years and stopped his ultimate plot to kill a couple million more"
The Public & Readers: "OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU NOBODY DESERVES TO DIE HOW COULD YOU YOU AREN'T OUR HERO ANYMORE"
donshawnthomas p
Preach child
Why wasn't this vid called, " 10 Times we're super heroes killed"
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Cuz flash
Ikr punisher and wolverine dont have rules sooooo
10 times we are super heroes killed
Because not everyone here killed and what you wrote doesn't make much sense
Anybody else noticed that the guy in the elevator with spidey is Donald Davenport from Lab Rats >>> SO MANY LIKES THANK YOU 🙏
Havoc Games when
Havoc Games yes
Yes
i didn't notice but i knew Ive heard the voice before
Yes
If I had to be one superhero from Marvel and DC. I would pick The Flash from DC and Spider man From Marvel
Jacob Knowlton
Why these picks?
Why not Batman or Deadpool? They are my choices.
Jacob Knowlton, they both are the joker types
KDSI Films yea
Only reason not the flash is because I already have a high metabolism and eat non-stop sooo.
i agree with you 100%
Wonder Woman never had that no kill rule. She is a warrior. Trained to fight and kill. Get it right.
As the saying goes "with great power comes great responsibility", but what alot of ppl (real or characters) tend to forget is that it is a person under that mask and no one is perfect.
I bet ya it's Thor.
Edit: IKNEW IT!
Peter Parker can break his rule just by saying, " I'm Spiderman !!"
🔨⚡️= Thor
Malachi _ ya
Ur smart
Obviously it’s fix it Felix the musical.
Hammer Flash was my guess. That or Mallet Strike.
No ITS electro hammer
spider-man 11:24
Tiny big thx😂😂
Tiny big thx I didin't notice that 🤣😂😁😄😅
Thank you
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Tiny big I like what you do
4:48 "Super strength and magical tools"😂😂😂
Can you guess the superhero villain based off of these emojis 🔨⚡️
*bob the builder?*
What do you mean when Wonder Woman crashes into theaters? it's already in theaters?
LEGENDARY OUTKAST they probably made this a while ago
Luke Simon Heneghan I doubt that
no they posted it the day he posted the comment dumbass
I think sometimes you have to forget your rules in order to do the right thing or to save lives , it doesnt matter if you cross that line , the only thing that matters is that you will save milllions of lives
Anyone realize most of the heros were the justice league
yes that made me mad. I know that there are probably many of the marvel heroes have probably broken their own rules as well. I mean come on.
Selina Weigman right
Honest question, does DC have more defined rules for their heroes? The movies seem to think so is all
Yes.
DC characters have more spoken rules..
& those are pretty well known
I guess thats why they say DC is dark.
So dark! You sure your not from the DC?
Deadpool
Who are you? I'm Batman
What they said about the killing joke is false the ending is decided by the reader you can believe he was choking the joker or just grabbing his shoulders while he laughed
Malik Studios Choking*?
Batman throw the joker off the building in the comics
not in the killing joke
Green Lanterns CGI suit basically killed thousands....too cringy
Killing joke is in continuity so it's obvious he didn't kill the joker other wise he would have been dead 💀 since 1987.
Sweg yo Sweg Well Joker has actually died quite a few times but of course he has been brought to life.
brought back to life.*
There have been indications that there have been multiple jokers
Dominick Warren According to the new 52, 4 jokers have been around
AndrasteX
3 not 4
Ok one of those is bs Wonder Woman kills all the time
WW has a great quote to superman "their is a reason I don't have a list of villians as long as batman or you. When I deal with them, I DEAL with them."
0:38 Thor film
Rules are there to break..
? Why is punisher in their.He aways kills the bad guy.Thats why he is the jugde, jury, and executioner.
Nick Brown he killed the good guy this time. One thing he neva does.
My thing is the Punisher isn't even a superhero like Deadpool he's an antihero
Sierra Adams deadpool is neautral
@@iveros8481 His is an antihero meaning a central character in a story, movie, or drama who lacks conventional heroic attributes.
XxTurtleRASxX most of the times then.
Cuz" I'm batman *
(Like FOR no reason)
Kilujkjiuo
solder ready to comply
Okan Mustafa I'm gonna like because your batman
Bbinayak luitel
sure
I've always said why don't they ever just kill the villains
I think it won't hurt once in a while for superheroes to break their own rules
Okay, let's stop right here at Batman and The Killing Joke. The entire point of that story is that the ending is ambiguous. The reader/watcher is never actually given an answer, and the impact of it all hinges on never knowing the answer. Therefore, using The Killing Joke as an example of Batman committing murder butchers the whole storyline and leaves a horrible impression on anyone who hasn't read the actual book. Repulsive move, guys.
Faithborn Exigency was about to comment the same. 👍
the emoji picture is thor
Thor that's what the answer is
TheGamingSlimeYT no sht
TheGamingSlimeYT I fouuund youuuuuu!!
I found it interesting when superheroes being driven to the edge to do something that they shouldn't do for me it makes it more fresh and different.
What about the infamous injustice?
i knew Batman was on this before i even clicked on it
Daredevil killed so many people in the film
we tend not to talk about that movie even if it was the character's first appearance on the big screen.
batman didn't kill the joker in the killing joke.
yeah see it seemed like he did in the comic but he really just had his hands on his shoulders xD
Logan Butler I thought it was confirmed by Alan Moore that B-Man killed The Joker.
Canon ending to the killing joke is that they're just laughing, back when it was made it had the intent to seem ambiguous, but nowadays we have full confirmation that Batman didn't kill the Joker back then
I was surprised you never brought up the comic where Superman kills The Joker. He was given this gas that made him think he was killing Doomsday when it was really Lois Lane. That also set off a nuclear bomb in Metropolis. It was later converted into the video game Injustice.
What about when Batman locked KG Beast in a room in a sewer and never came back or when he snapped a giant's neck using rope pulled up by the Batwing?
Evan Salamone the older batman killed when he adopted robin he stopped killing
they ended up retconing that so that he told the police a few hours later
That awkward scene when spiderman arrived
Some say rules are ment to be broken
Angel Pena Those people should learn to spell
Angel Pena .....meant*
Angel Pena not grammar rules
Joe P 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Sorry it must've auto corrected. I swore I wrote "meant". Or I just forgot the "a"
Jinx says that from league of legends
From what I understand, “The Other” is actually one of THREE totems of spider powers. One comes from mutations, one comes from magic, and one comes from other means (hence the term “the other”), but I might not understand very well at all.
"While she may not be doing any terrible deeds in her debut film", *Murders half the Imperial German Army* Riiiiiight....
When batman killed in BvS I said WTF my life is lie
Heisnberg that was a dream
Dead shot
nah he also did it in the scene where he chased the lorry and when he saved supermans mum
Well Wonder Woman When The WW Film In 2017. She Killed Like All The Rest Of German Army And A God Called Ares
aries the god of war!!!
adamx66 Ares*
But my zodiac is Aries
Correct
I guessed THOORRRR
Wonder woman doesn't have a no kill rule. She once mentioned that the reason she doesn't have a rogues gallery as long as superman or batman is because she "finishes the job"
Too Much DC superheroes in this video, need more Marvel
the quiz is Thor
New vid
Hundreds of times Batman really did kill someone
Devil's of hell kitchen? did I hear it wrong or am I in denial?
Think about how many innocent people died because the heroes keep letting the villains live
Mutant Spiderman at 12:34 doesn't feel so good Mr. Stark
The Flashpoint comic was made into a movie by the way
NarikoFox yeah a really good one
"break the rules not the law," i guess
🔨⚡ thor
• Peter Quill’s emotions took over because Nebula didn’t keep her mouth shut and half of the universe turned to ash
• Loki didn’t lie about the Tesseract and Thanos killed him
• Gamora didn’t go left and Thanos killed her
• Thor didn’t go for the head and Thanos snapped his fingers
IMPORTANT: You know his Vision can like make it so when someone tries to punch him their hand goes through him? He could have done that when Thanos took the Mind stone!
If even one of these mistakes didn’t happen the universe would probably be okay.
HALO10121 vision could Not fase through thanos beacuse He was stabbed and it removed his abillity to fase
6:31 *Ryan Renolds:* *I said we don't talk about this*
Thor i think
Batman does not kill joker
Darth Michael sort of like watching a karate movie where the guy gets kicked in the head 7 times in a row and gets up like nothing happened and fights back. You know he couldn't possibly do that. His brain would be gone so yeah hanging upside down for hours would kill you. (grins)
Thor
Flash broke the most important rule, ya know creating a time remnant and all that
TheCreeperGuy yea
Superhero: Thor 🔨⚡
Now which superhero is represented? 🌃🕊
RUclips is getting worse it looks like everyone copys others commnets
Interesting
The figure is Thor
You either die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. = Every teenager is a hero and every old timer is villain ? What ? goodnight
Great quote from Harvey Dent
Rules are like bones there BOTH meant to be broken :)
ARKHAM BRICKS bones are not meant to be broken
tell that to time and exercise
*they're
reborn 12 r/wooosh
superman killing doomsday how can they forget that
India Rocks Doomsday ressurected and that doesn't count since he did not actually killed Doomsday. How can you also forgot about Doomsday can ressurect and can prevent that way of dying again?
wait...where is deadpool!!!!!!!! He has multiple comics where he kills everyone!!!!!
BadPiggy deadpool doesn't have a no killing rule
BadPiggy deadpool is an anti-hero and he does not have a killing rule
oh right
BadPiggy well that's to Obvious for Deadpool to be in this...
BadPiggy he doesn't have a rule for that
original spiderman: hi I played spider man
spiderman 2: no I played
every other spiderman: but I played spiderman
Which is worse: killing the bad guy or letting him live knowing that he will eventually kill again? (They ALWAYS do!) Sometimes the bad guy just plain needs to die.
Thor hammer lightning
Joker succeeds at the end of the Dark Night as Batman kills Harvey at the end when he pushes him off the edge
You really need to watch that movie again. You're way off.
Batman knocked down two face and the little boy and when he fallen off he tried to save both but in the process only able to save the Gordon’s boy, so technically speaking: Batman killed Harvey Dent - Two Face
MISTAKENLYMADE my point exactly
What about batman in the dark knight when he killed two face to save James Gordon junior
Brayden Heon he didn't kill two face Gordon did, they just told everyone it was batman because batman could take the hit to his reputation.
Doesn't batman just kill a whole building full of people in batman Vs superman
the one that Ben Affleck batman. He just completely ruined batman. The one in dark knight is much more closer to comic version.
Maybe we're pretending those movies never happened.
Spider-Man broke his rule again in the amazing Spider-Man 2 when he purposefully killed electro by turning his power against him
Super man: "I don't kill...
unless your a random civilians"
Its shazam
Armani Mason i know it’s been 1 year but it’s Thor. I also thought it was Shazam
No its thor
What about Deadpool?
danyer1 danyer2 he's not a hero. He a anti hero like punisher but insane and unkillable.
Dead pool has no rules
Wonder Woman theme is so good
Wonder Woman never has mentioned to have that rule she is an amazon warrior, the only reason she took that rule was due Bats and Sups, but she is willing to do what's required even killing her foes.
I know that movie, it's one of the best Marvel films ever made. My favorite movie is hands down Hammer Lightning.
Because I have always noticed dc to be more “perfect beings”, I feel like they should never have to cross the line. But Marvel always seemed more human. Humans make mistakes. Humans are emotional, and are driven by those emotions. So I appreciate when Marvel characters overstep boundaries, because in most of the situations, normal people would too.