The Death of an Officer's Wife | Full Episode + Post Mortem

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @InnocentPotato-pd7wi
    @InnocentPotato-pd7wi 26 дней назад +112

    A big red flag is when someone isolates you from your friends and family!

    • @Stephanie-we5ep
      @Stephanie-we5ep 10 дней назад +4

      @@InnocentPotato-pd7wi Fun fact; when you're wearing rose coloured glasses red flags just look like
      flags.

  • @pavanes244
    @pavanes244 Месяц назад +422

    Doctor who wrote suicide has to have her license revoked

    • @vincedidiana5781
      @vincedidiana5781 Месяц назад +73

      She’ll never admit it, but she saw it was an officer’s spouse and said, “Yep, suicide!” Lazy work

    • @pavanes244
      @pavanes244 Месяц назад

      @@vincedidiana5781 should always indicate some doubt and accept other possibilities. Science is not 100% accurate all the time.

    • @Douglas_Hamilton
      @Douglas_Hamilton 29 дней назад +11

      🎯

    • @newyorkcity76
      @newyorkcity76 27 дней назад +7

      Medical examiner have no knowledge how she died

    • @atomtron1066
      @atomtron1066 27 дней назад +21

      When you go out of your way to protect the Devil, you get the stink of EVIL on you.

  • @sheilahawkins8861
    @sheilahawkins8861 Месяц назад +363

    I was in a DV marriage, and when i went to work, i packed two uniforms and underware, I never went back . Leave those things you can replace. Once you leave, you are free, never return. it's a trap, When you start packing or fighting for things you can replace, you're making problems for yourself.
    RIL ❤

    • @e.a.4926
      @e.a.4926 Месяц назад +28

      Genuine question, why do women stay in these relationships when they have an out, like this lady did? Her family tried to help her. She was in her mid 40s. I just can't comprehend it. She didn't even have kids with him. I am trying so hard to understand.

    • @sheilahawkins8861
      @sheilahawkins8861 Месяц назад +16

      @e.a.4926
      I don't understand either, I loved my husband, I loved me more, and I refuse to be anyone punching bag. I don't care who he is or where he comes from.

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 Месяц назад +23

      There is no material thing worth dying for. So glad you got out and hope you're having an amazing life

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 Месяц назад

      ​@@e.a.4926learn about narcissist abuse and trauma bond. It's akin to Stockholm syndrome.
      Many have no income, small children and no help. Police will no help, except a restraining which is completely useless and makes things worse, abusive people rarely spend more than a couple days in jail which just makes them angrier and more violent. When your abuser has power it's worse......it helped me to study the psychology of abuse and trauma. It's so easy to say "leave" if it that easy, everyone would do it..

    • @LaurieValdez-zk3dy
      @LaurieValdez-zk3dy Месяц назад +17

      It's not worth your life.
      Material items mean nothing.

  • @YSBAJDPN
    @YSBAJDPN Месяц назад +354

    No gun residue test on victim is inexcusable

    • @jenniferburton1395
      @jenniferburton1395 26 дней назад +28

      Agreed and why no fingerprint test on the gun? I’m no genius here but shouldn’t that be protocol???

    • @michelle3215
      @michelle3215 25 дней назад +7

      No it’s a coverup

    • @YSBAJDPN
      @YSBAJDPN 25 дней назад +2

      @ could be :/

    • @Hashslingingslasherrrrrr
      @Hashslingingslasherrrrrr 24 дня назад

      @@michelle3215attempted coverup

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr 23 дня назад +4

      ​@@jenniferburton1395guns are nearly impossible to get prints from unless nobody else has ever handled the gun but with it being his gun they'd find both their prints on it if she loaded it and put 1 in the head of the gun a trigger usually isn't big enough to get enough points of interest to positively identify a print if she never touched the mag or the slide his prints would be the only ones on it the grips aren't smooth enough to get prints from

  • @Janadu
    @Janadu 29 дней назад +99

    Don't blame alcohol for this one. This was toxic from the start. Big time control issues with this dude. That was the first of many red flags. Alcohol only made a bad situation worse.

    • @JimiJames-xq3kc
      @JimiJames-xq3kc 27 дней назад +10

      With a mix of pain killers.
      Deadly.

    • @3naturalBionutrition
      @3naturalBionutrition 23 дня назад +1

      And she stayed. Accountability has to be issued to the female for engaging in this relationship and staying.

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr 23 дня назад

      ​@@JimiJames-xq3kcI drink on painkillers (1 being fentanyl) and tranquilizers daily it's never been deadly or even dangerous for anybody unless my heart finally gets me and they give my kidneys to someone I guess if I renew my license I should take organ donor off it I'm sure 1 of my prescriptions makes me ineligible to donate or get used organs

    • @brendas6461
      @brendas6461 22 дня назад +4

      Sounds like maybe you have not been exposed to the dynamics and cycle of domestic abuse. Lucky you.

    • @MadMomma-kj9ks
      @MadMomma-kj9ks День назад

      one red flag is the spouse is a cop......

  • @cupcake1406
    @cupcake1406 Месяц назад +97

    Why wasn't Amanda's hands checked for gun shot residue?

    • @Athena-qi1ll
      @Athena-qi1ll 23 дня назад +4

      Me too. The entire postmortem report us suspicious, to be honest

    • @edbrake2723
      @edbrake2723 День назад

      Blue Wall. If her hands were clear, with her being husband present . . . well, go figure.

  • @AmandaCadorna
    @AmandaCadorna 29 дней назад +253

    I was almost killed by a man named Seth at the age of 17. I've never forgotten all the beatings. It's one of the most surreal and awful things a person can go through. For me, I had disassociate from my body each time. I've been traumatized since and I'm 54. It never leaves you. You made the smart and right decision here. Great advice.

    • @chriscarter1177
      @chriscarter1177 28 дней назад +21

      I'm sorry to see this and truly hope it gets easier for ya.

    • @carolyndavison6095
      @carolyndavison6095 28 дней назад +17

      You did the right thing in leaving. Please seek some professional help to fully enjoy your life as it is now. You deserve happiness and dealing with trauma should help you live a happy life.🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

    • @melraelee
      @melraelee 27 дней назад +11

      What a coincidence, both your names being the same. I'm glad the coincidence stops there, and that you got away before he killed you. Thank you for sharing your story, and may God, who loves you so deeply just as you are, heal your trauma and bring you true peace. Jesus died to give you that, and to give you eternal life, and you have only to accept it.

    • @shantellwright6424
      @shantellwright6424 27 дней назад +7

      I’m so very sorry that happened to you❤

    • @twontwon2807
      @twontwon2807 27 дней назад +7

      Sending you loving vibrations and prayers for peace and comfort. 🙏🏽💖💐

  • @Truecrimerevealed96
    @Truecrimerevealed96 Месяц назад +243

    Amanda’s sisters are so brave to speak up and share her story. Hopefully, this episode brings awareness to the silent struggles of domestic abuse victims who can’t escape. It shows how hard it is to walk away, even when lives are at risk.

    • @earthrooster1969
      @earthrooster1969 29 дней назад +15

      So true! Also it's becoming very obvious that when DV starts, it just escalates till it reaches a point of no return.

    • @juicyjules7409
      @juicyjules7409 28 дней назад

      Yes 😇😇😇

    • @hopek59
      @hopek59 27 дней назад +2

      Vengeance is mine, says the Lord Seth will be held accountable

    • @hopek59
      @hopek59 27 дней назад +1

      They windup out in the ocean and trees

    • @hopek59
      @hopek59 27 дней назад

      Sweet action but more litter into our environment

  • @kellyfinleybrown9313
    @kellyfinleybrown9313 Месяц назад +203

    Can't stand an abuser.

  • @ruthmelicharles5062
    @ruthmelicharles5062 29 дней назад +212

    I've come to realise that when we are lonely as women, we become vulnerable. When we are vulnerable, we fall for the wrong men. Those like Seth.
    Sometimes, staying single will keep us alive and at peace. RIP Amanda.
    That lawyer 😡😡 .

    • @Junichild
      @Junichild 28 дней назад +27

      Statistically, the home is the most dangerous place for a woman if she shares it with a male partner. So knowing that you can live alone and be fine is a very valuable thing for a woman.

    • @jgator6694
      @jgator6694 28 дней назад +11

      Yep. I am happy single and that won’t change.

    • @carolbeehave
      @carolbeehave 28 дней назад +9

      Bless you. Truer words were never spoken.ive been in your shoes. You never ever really recover. You can't trust.❤

    • @edyiesweet2364
      @edyiesweet2364 28 дней назад +2

      @@carolbeehavenever! Sadly😢

    • @BillyBob-i3f
      @BillyBob-i3f 27 дней назад +4

      You ladies just haven’t experienced a suave and debonair gentleman such as myself

  • @j.g.c.2494
    @j.g.c.2494 Месяц назад +212

    there was nothing attractive about him from the start. he was sick, broke, unemployed & embroiled in a custody case, living with his parents, etc. two broken people found each other. BOOM!

    • @virginiawilkinson5038
      @virginiawilkinson5038 29 дней назад +31

      Plus all the alcohol!!

    • @chriscarter1177
      @chriscarter1177 28 дней назад

      ​@@virginiawilkinson5038and pills!!

    • @handiable
      @handiable 28 дней назад +20

      There were a lot of red flags with this man. You hit it on the spot.

    • @j.g.c.2494
      @j.g.c.2494 28 дней назад +2

      @@handiable thanks!!!

    • @suzziezhills
      @suzziezhills 26 дней назад +3

      So true.

  • @funwithFred
    @funwithFred Месяц назад +283

    WHAT POLICE DEPT WOULDN'T DUST FOR GUNPOWDER OR CHECK THE GUN FOR FINGERPRINTS ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +36

      A corrupt one Sir!

    • @stfuplsok
      @stfuplsok 29 дней назад +21

      GEORGIA POLICE DEPARTMENT!!!

    • @kimthomas8717
      @kimthomas8717 29 дней назад +19

      Yep corrupt and looking out for their own 😡

    • @StofStuiver
      @StofStuiver 28 дней назад +3

      It starts there indeed.
      Pretty hard to make a case if they dont do their job.
      As is however, there is no evidence of him doing it.

    • @sarat6723
      @sarat6723 28 дней назад +6

      This is saying it all
      They do that with every crime seen
      But not their own officers- for this they should get recognition

  • @carolhurley4086
    @carolhurley4086 Месяц назад +235

    The victim isn't here to defend herself. That lawyer is disgusting. the medical examiner needs glasses.

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +22

      The M E need's charging and dismissed.

    • @j.g.c.2494
      @j.g.c.2494 Месяц назад +15

      the show says she was a first class M.E..........in georgia??????? no way.

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr 23 дня назад +2

      A defense attorney has to use all the evidence he has no matter who's dead or extremely messed up that's their job and the medical examiner spent 9 months going over the evidence and like all medical personnel do made their best educated guess

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr 23 дня назад

      ​charged with what and dismissed on what grounds

    • @davidwoermansr
      @davidwoermansr 23 дня назад

      ​@@j.g.c.2494the state ME

  • @vivalaleta
    @vivalaleta Месяц назад +315

    That guy sure loved his daughter though.
    Nah, chump, he hated paying child support.

    • @krissypeters1517
      @krissypeters1517 Месяц назад +57

      Not loved his daughter - wanted control of his daughter like this loser tried to control the women in his pathetic life

    • @rrsiiipineal
      @rrsiiipineal 28 дней назад +8

      That part!

    • @keepitsimple4629
      @keepitsimple4629 28 дней назад +11

      vivalaleta, it's so ironic that his daughter, who he married the victim, to get custody of, ended up testifying truthfully to his downfall.

    • @vivalaleta
      @vivalaleta 28 дней назад +6

      @@keepitsimple4629 Yes but too bad she lied about it later on.

    • @nievespinero
      @nievespinero 26 дней назад +1

      I'm sure the jury watched the first interrogation and made their conclusions 🙏​@vivalaleta

  • @rebeccab.463
    @rebeccab.463 Месяц назад +262

    Why give his attorney this much air time to gaslight the murdered woman?

    • @Kinlui1022
      @Kinlui1022 29 дней назад +20

      I hate to be profiling but since they do it all the time anyway. These defense attorneys all had a smirking smug on their damn faces, men or women.

    • @Douglas_Hamilton
      @Douglas_Hamilton 29 дней назад +7

      I think it's fair journalism to let both sides have the same airtime. Eventually this bad cop was convicted so whatever the attorney says doesn't matter.

    • @nononoisaidnope
      @nononoisaidnope 28 дней назад +1

      Not 177 people liking this because no one here has any idea what gas lighting is 😅 you can't gaslight a dead person. I'm sure he did when she was alive, but the point here is the misuse of mental health terms.
      if you're misusing it here, you're misusing it in other situations which does a HUGE disservice to the people who truly experience this. No one believes us or wants to help when it's really going on.

    • @CellHam
      @CellHam 28 дней назад +5

      ​@@nononoisaidnopeGet over it and move on😢

    • @One.DeSanctis.
      @One.DeSanctis. 28 дней назад

      ​@nononoisaidnope
      If academic terms enter the popular vernacular, then they will be used incorrectly.
      Of course, one cannot gaslight a dead person. Once there is no cognitive process there can be no obfuscation.

  • @Aaa0483
    @Aaa0483 Месяц назад +300

    NEVER TELL YOUR ABUSER YOUR PLAN.
    RIP

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 Месяц назад +34

      Never act like you have a plan....if possible, slowly sneak out anything important, birth certificates, legal papers, a few clothes and bare essentials and whatever money you can. Wait until it's safe and take kids and pets if you can and GO....preferably have a safe place to go to first

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@mightymouse1005
      Great advice

    • @dakalodk
      @dakalodk Месяц назад +1

      There is never a plan . Its just attention seeking

    • @j_cara
      @j_cara 29 дней назад +5

      @@mightymouse1005Good advice, thank you 🤍

    • @Aaa0483
      @Aaa0483 29 дней назад +2

      @@dakalodk why?

  • @mamacoco7122
    @mamacoco7122 Месяц назад +238

    The little girl snitching on her deadbeat dad.. then in court she was told to say she can't remember.. Turning an innocent child into a liar..

    • @toolrammsteindeftones
      @toolrammsteindeftones Месяц назад +34

      I feel for this poor girl living in that environment.

    • @leannewilliams9400
      @leannewilliams9400 29 дней назад +8

      I haven't watched it all but kids aren't stupid more often than not they start to see the truth

    • @StofStuiver
      @StofStuiver 28 дней назад +3

      She was coached. Already at the first interview. So very good that she nuanced what she had said previously.

    • @sarahwall3528
      @sarahwall3528 28 дней назад +8

      @@StofStuivershe shouldn’t have had to give evidence in court, in front of her father. She should have given evidence in another room on camera, or behind a screen where she couldn’t see her father. Imagine how she will feel for the rest of her life having publicly betrayed her mother.

    • @StofStuiver
      @StofStuiver 28 дней назад

      @@sarahwall3528 No
      My post was about being coached at initial stage, where accusations were spoken against the father.
      There is also in law, 'right to face the accuser' that is important in the basics of our system.
      There is also an ethical problem with family testifiying.
      'betrayed her mother', but oddly not a word on betraying her father. That didnt even cross your mind, i take it.

  • @extracelestial9527
    @extracelestial9527 28 дней назад +58

    To the family of the victim: I'm so sorry for the horrible loss.
    I escaped a severely abusive marriage to a cop 11 years ago, and I am still in counseling and suffering from anxiety and PTSD.
    This perpetrator reminds me of my ex, so I can't watch this.
    I just want the sister to know that yes, she was most definitely too afraid to leave. They say things and do things that keep you in fear. She wanted to tell you and your family. She just didn't want to endanger you. I hid these things, too. She loved you so much, she didn't tell you.

    • @Teapot333
      @Teapot333 24 дня назад +1

      I'm so sorry you had to go through this hell. I too was a victim

    • @BooBoosPalace
      @BooBoosPalace День назад

      ​@@Teapot333...as was I. ❤❤❤

  • @MrSirlulzalot
    @MrSirlulzalot 27 дней назад +22

    Who else thinks the cello? music on the intro is great?
    It would be hard to make it any more simple, but man, it catches my attention every time.

    • @seajduff
      @seajduff 4 дня назад

      Never put anything pass anyone 😢

    • @atxchaser
      @atxchaser 4 дня назад

      The previous intro was soft.

  • @donnamathis1331
    @donnamathis1331 Месяц назад +63

    They're assuming she drank all of the mini bottles VOLUNTARILY. He may have been MAKING her drink them.

  • @jrcampbell8070
    @jrcampbell8070 Месяц назад +36

    I thought it was mandatory to check for gun residue especially concerning a so call self harming with a cop involved

  • @janicescott6569
    @janicescott6569 Месяц назад +143

    The daughter had to of had a horrific life going home from school to dad and step mom being alcoholic’s and fighting all night. Totally selfish. He never should of had custody. IMO.

    • @trinigrl09
      @trinigrl09 Месяц назад +30

      He probably only wanted custody to avoid paying child support to her mother. If he could marry Amanda just to prevent the daughter's mother from getting custody, I wouldn't put it past Seth.

    • @carynmartin6053
      @carynmartin6053 Месяц назад +1

      Same thing happened to my daughter and son years ago. Their father died young, at his own hand a few years ago. Karma is real!

    • @susanwright7108
      @susanwright7108 Месяц назад +1

      yes and a long life of it. I hope she gets good care and a loving, healthy family.

    • @stfuplsok
      @stfuplsok 29 дней назад +1

      HAVE* had
      should *HAVE NOT "of".

    • @MsColl90
      @MsColl90 27 дней назад +2

      Are you well? This isn’t two equals fighting. Her father was an abuser.

  • @TheEC35
    @TheEC35 27 дней назад +22

    Anyone watching this, if you are going through an abusive relationship this is your sign to leave NOW!

  • @thetransparentjerseygirl
    @thetransparentjerseygirl Месяц назад +72

    Abuse isn't love....I'm a dv survivor and listening and seeing these women's stories I realize how easily I could've been killed..😥 ..IM THANKFUL I MADE IT OUT ALIVE!

    • @ReallyISeeYou
      @ReallyISeeYou Месяц назад +5

      I am thankful you did, too. Too many of these tough narratives. ❤

    • @mightymouse1005
      @mightymouse1005 Месяц назад +4

      People need to learn, jealousy isn't love, wanting to control, kn9w everything someone is doing, expecting someone to call/text multiple times a day, wanting someone to NOT spend time with friends and family and keep them isolated. NONE of that is love, temper tantrum, anger and abuse is not acceptable and "I just love you too much....im just jealous.....you make me do it etc are gaslighting and a lie....

    • @vincedidiana5781
      @vincedidiana5781 Месяц назад

      Men who abuse women are the quintessential cowards. Tough guys

    • @fionabryant7923
      @fionabryant7923 Месяц назад +7

      Me too, bless you. Romance is overrated, friendship is everything. But nothing is foolproof..been off men for years...learn, girls. Trust yr gut

    • @fayecox9401
      @fayecox9401 28 дней назад +1

      So glad your ok ❤

  • @aym280
    @aym280 Месяц назад +95

    Who was the head of the police? Why didn't the police take a GSR test of Amanda's hands, esp when the man said she executed herself? That medical examiner and GBI should all be retrained.

    • @spikenomoon
      @spikenomoon Месяц назад +7

      Especially since the sheriff said something wasn’t right when he saw her.

  • @juliemason2551
    @juliemason2551 Месяц назад +111

    My absolute favourite intro to a true crime show EVER. And believe me. I’ve been watching crime shows for years.

    • @sharonsmith3687
      @sharonsmith3687 Месяц назад +4

      💯💞💞

    • @frankloyal8297
      @frankloyal8297 Месяц назад +4

      Me to 🥰

    • @anugillsten5996
      @anugillsten5996 Месяц назад +12

      I started/begun seeing/watching american(english) so i have learn much your language and love to watch crimecases,Netflix and RUclips are the best❤🎉

    • @Harrybrown4570
      @Harrybrown4570 Месяц назад

      She married a cop? Your 50 times more likely to suffer an assault from a cop than you are a real citizen with no crime history all cops have a history of violence

    • @CatskillsGrrl
      @CatskillsGrrl Месяц назад +14

      The music theme? Agreed. The best. It’s the strings. So Bernard Herrmann.

  • @MatlaSllays
    @MatlaSllays Месяц назад +122

    Every county needs a Sheriff Sills!

    • @twistedsister6293
      @twistedsister6293 Месяц назад +8

      Every country too

    • @hawaiibound.
      @hawaiibound. Месяц назад

      Take a screenshot of this list of RUclips channels, and subscribe to each one of them. Watch their content so that you'll be better informed of what is truly happening in this country when it comes to the police.
      * Audit Archive
      *The Civil Rights Lawyer
      * Shields of Shame
      * US - Corrupt Cops

    • @youuuknooow7699
      @youuuknooow7699 27 дней назад +1

      Not!

  • @MusaA
    @MusaA Месяц назад +99

    Imagine how this violent crooked cop treated ordinary citizens!?

    • @lisayork2624
      @lisayork2624 Месяц назад +7

      Good thing is he only worked for 1 year

    • @hawaiibound.
      @hawaiibound. Месяц назад +15

      ​@@lisayork2624one year is long enough to destroy a lot of people's lives.

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +3

      ​@hawaiibound. True

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@lisayork2624 definitely

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +11

      Great comment and terrifyingly true unfortunately. A psychopath with a uniform, a gun, a badge, and power! With the illusion of decency. Terrifying

  • @loua1519
    @loua1519 27 дней назад +24

    I believe his "deep love" for his daughter is code for control over her mother.

    • @fannycrumplebuns538
      @fannycrumplebuns538 22 дня назад +2

      Good point ... he seems to want only to cause pain.

    • @robertshepherd8543
      @robertshepherd8543 20 дней назад

      Amanda knew if he lost custody of his daughter, he would shoot Amanda.

    • @user56gghtf
      @user56gghtf 15 дней назад +2

      Agreed

  • @sheripatterson8112
    @sheripatterson8112 29 дней назад +24

    If anyone degrades you or puts their hands on you/cop or not, get out immediately and get the restraining order.

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace 28 дней назад

      And who is going to enforce that restraining order, friend

  • @TherealChasity
    @TherealChasity Месяц назад +37

    We're not talking about what a "GOOD" police officer you were. We're talking about what a "GOOD" husband you were!

  • @Theaddora
    @Theaddora Месяц назад +109

    I think that guy only worked a few months of their entire relationship.

    • @janicescott6569
      @janicescott6569 Месяц назад +24

      His parents should of quit enabling him long ago.

    • @countrylivers
      @countrylivers Месяц назад +18

      @@janicescott6569But they Raised that monster…..so there’s that also🤷‍♀️🥴

    • @alaskakathryn1
      @alaskakathryn1 Месяц назад +16

      He's a bum. His mommy and daddy made him that way.

    • @stfuplsok
      @stfuplsok 29 дней назад +3

      @@janicescott6569 should *HAVE

    • @3naturalBionutrition
      @3naturalBionutrition 23 дня назад +2

      He said she couldn't have a phone and she accepted it. Wow

  • @freeburlington1
    @freeburlington1 27 дней назад +30

    Wait, they suspected him immediately but didn’t residue her hands to help confirm she didn’t shoot the gun?! 🤦‍♀️

  • @markcullinane4438
    @markcullinane4438 Месяц назад +33

    Good thing the sheriff didn't buy his bullsh*t

  • @lisayork2624
    @lisayork2624 Месяц назад +32

    Seth sounds like he’s allergic to work

    • @Camlor9202
      @Camlor9202 29 дней назад

      Massive sense of entitlement nurtured by wealthy over indulgent parents. He was probably allergic and dismissive of earning an honest days pay. Hard work averse for sure.

  • @Williamb612
    @Williamb612 Месяц назад +77

    Always a mix of the usual suspects: child custody, life insurance, a lover, serious financial issues, intense jealousy.
    Usual means: poison, suicide, bizarre accident, framing someone else

  • @Greeneyesengage
    @Greeneyesengage Месяц назад +54

    Attorney knows nothing….. it’s his job to defend that loser….. that’s what he’s paid for….. he knows his client is a scumbag…..and wants to make sure he can come up with lies for his client….. I actually hate lawyers like that.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 29 дней назад +5

      I went to law school. I did business, company and property law...I haven't got the emotional capacity for criminal or family law.

  • @Danuta-ci4dy
    @Danuta-ci4dy Месяц назад +102

    Why would a grown woman go to live with a jobless grown man who depended on his parents to support them 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️??

    • @motheryuba57
      @motheryuba57 Месяц назад +25

      He had cancer and needed care and she probably had a big heart and felt compassion for him. Seems like a very womanly attitude.

    • @Skipbo000
      @Skipbo000 Месяц назад +15

      Right……. In the end regardless of who we are, we end up where we end up as a result of many of our own decisions made along the way… horrific what he did, yes. But common sense that she shouldn’t be there in the first place should have kicked in a few decisions ago.
      This is not "victim-blaming." This is about taking responsibility for your life and learning from other's mistakes. We do this in other areas too. When smokers get cancer, the overwhelming response in the medical community as the person is lying in a hospital bed, devastated about to die, "we tried to tell you and you didn't listen."
      By the end of the day WE are responsible for our own lives. Very rare do events happen out of the blue in a vacuum for no reason at all.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 29 дней назад +29

      Co-dependency. If he had cancer, he should be focusing on getting better not dating! I have a lot of illnesses. I've been single for over 10 years. If roles were reversed what man would take on a very ill woman living with her parents. None.

    • @Verawnique
      @Verawnique 29 дней назад +22

      @@marleyhill34 You hit the nail on the head. It's all about codependency. And this is what narcissists depend on and thrive on.

    • @magdaseguin
      @magdaseguin 29 дней назад

      It was not co-dependency there were réd flags from the start. He isolated her from her family and got married in secret for his own agenda...custody of his daughter. I doubt he even loved her

  • @ramel79
    @ramel79 Месяц назад +24

    I made it a firm policy: if we frequently fight someone got to go. It defeats the purpose of being together!!

  • @tiktokmashupss7991
    @tiktokmashupss7991 Месяц назад +28

    Maybe someone caught this and I didn't hear it but the use of the word execute gave me a chill as well as in his interrogation when he was describing what he said to her in the moment he started to say I'm sorry but then interrupted himself and said like why would you do that or something. He did it

    • @TheGooglyminotaur
      @TheGooglyminotaur Месяц назад +2

      You’re right! It was there. When he was talking about hugging her. Real piece of work.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 29 дней назад +3

      yeah I caught that "I'm so..."....This guy is a dumb f. The fact that his parents where housing him and bankrolling him is an eww. Screams come be co-dependent with me. I left home at 18 because I didn't want to be dependent on my parents and I needed to get away from their dysfunctional and controlling thinking. Now at 43...I'd rather be homeless than move back in with them. I've changed but they haven't and I don't need that drama as I was diagnosed at 42 with autism.

  • @bvtgamer5707
    @bvtgamer5707 Месяц назад +24

    Was he a cop though? Just barely gets sworn in and miraculously falls down the stairs and gets put on leave? Lmfao sounds like he wanted the title but didn't actually want to work at all. Was used to his mommy and daddy carrying him what a jacka$$

  • @CathAlexandra
    @CathAlexandra Месяц назад +20

    Pretty wife, beautiful home - what an idiot.

  • @debidriscoll8108
    @debidriscoll8108 25 дней назад +5

    They probably didn't do a proper investigation because he's a cop

  • @astt5761
    @astt5761 29 дней назад +20

    That poor little daughter and props to the sheriff

  • @arthurcacarlsamsteph4
    @arthurcacarlsamsteph4 Месяц назад +25

    I don’t know why, but every time someone is interrogated and starts talking about their 'wife of eight years, whom I love, shes the love of my life blahblah' they always end up being the suspect.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 29 дней назад +4

      I could never be so calm and coherent..I'd be an emotional wreck or gone straight into cognitive dissonance and being unable to talk so freely....everyone who's ever experienced a true loss can spot these people a mile away..they are too calm and too coherent and they talk too much. You see this at an accident scene, the person goes into shock and the first responders have to keep talking to them to make sure that they are responding....even if they are not serious injured...their brain has shut down in terms of executive functioning and processing. Hardened criminals know to say "I want a lawyer" and "no comment." These other people go for the big dramatic show with too much talking and volunteer information that no one asked for.

    • @virginiawilkinson5038
      @virginiawilkinson5038 29 дней назад +1

      That is a "tell".

  • @BrendaEaster-c8k
    @BrendaEaster-c8k Месяц назад +48

    I thought that they screen for psychopathy when people apply for a law enforcement job???? I think, but am not sure, that sociopaths can lie very effectively. This guy was all about power. The sociopath is afraid of being weak and when they feel love, they consider themselves trapped. That rapid involvement is very typical of these possessive men. Beware of someone showing this control and wanting rapid involvement.

    • @Truthteller1s
      @Truthteller1s Месяц назад +2

      You nailed it!

    • @daryldixon3685
      @daryldixon3685 Месяц назад +5

      They do their best with the tests they have but some slip through the cracks!

    • @virg0_lem0nade
      @virg0_lem0nade Месяц назад +6

      LOL you really thought that??? 😂😂😂😂 You actually thought that people who choose to be cops are of sound mind? HAHAHHAHAA

    • @Lyssa72
      @Lyssa72 Месяц назад

      @@daryldixon3685or they don’t do a thorough check. Look at the cop from my county in Va - Washington County, Va. He was a psychopath Austin Lee Edwards that drove to Ca and murdered a family and kidnapped the 15 yr old young girl

    • @latinaalma1947
      @latinaalma1947 Месяц назад +2

      It should be standard proceure for this...I was a professor of psychology training psychologists. A psychologist and only a licensed PhD psychologist can and should screen using the MMPI a valid and reliable personality test it can prevent a police bad hire.

  • @leeprimeau7912
    @leeprimeau7912 29 дней назад +11

    That man was a big spoiled baby who was used to getting his way no matter what… very dangerous man to have a badge.

  • @terrifuentes4323
    @terrifuentes4323 29 дней назад +11

    I don’t know how defense attorneys sleep at night when they KNOW full well their client is a guilty POS. Of course I understand you better have a good one if you need one, but I just don’t get it.

  • @beakt
    @beakt Месяц назад +16

    15:20 It's so weird when guilty people say "I have no reason to lie to you!" as if that's persuasive. In a situation where they have every reason to lie if they did it!

    • @atxchaser
      @atxchaser 4 дня назад +1

      Or someone who starts speaking with " can I be honest with you?" Like aren't you always or just in this case? 😂

  • @TheMobileGeriatrician
    @TheMobileGeriatrician Месяц назад +11

    How does 48 hours not have more than 3 pics of these people? Looking at the same photos over and over.

  • @shadaewilliams2130
    @shadaewilliams2130 27 дней назад +7

    Didn't test the victim for gunshot residue?? Wow

  • @alexaapoe
    @alexaapoe Месяц назад +46

    The only way to end domestic abuse is to empower women from birth.

    • @eyesopen66
      @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +10

      Women raise these horrible men!

    • @Douglas_Hamilton
      @Douglas_Hamilton 29 дней назад +10

      @@eyesopen66 So does men.

    • @StofStuiver
      @StofStuiver 28 дней назад +5

      empower women?
      LOL

    • @StofStuiver
      @StofStuiver 28 дней назад

      @@Douglas_Hamilton actually no. Statistics show that single male parents do on par with couples parenting. Single women perform much less.

    • @mwahha6965
      @mwahha6965 28 дней назад +9

      What about raising our sons (and daughters) not to be abusive? I get what you’re saying but it takes an abuser to abuse, and that’s on them (male or female)

  • @suzyq9109
    @suzyq9109 16 дней назад +3

    Gosh I just left the ex partner who is a police officer. He had narcissistic traits and alcohol problems and I know if I ever did anything to report him or ruin his job he’d ruin my life. Leaving an abusive relationship is SO dangerous hence why people stay because they lose control of you. She may have been turning to alcohol to cope with his behaviors.

  • @roshellelud2623
    @roshellelud2623 Месяц назад +11

    My biggest shock is that growing up, we learned, harm basically only comes from an enemy or incident. Not from a person who loves another? Its cruel, it is most disturbing. Saying slavery is cruelty, well relationship deaths are first.

  • @Williamb612
    @Williamb612 Месяц назад +48

    The old wife suicide routine...if you are going to polish someone off a suicide staging almost never works

    • @Harrybrown4570
      @Harrybrown4570 Месяц назад +4

      But it works more often with police they have qualified immunity

    • @Harrybrown4570
      @Harrybrown4570 Месяц назад +6

      They install a God complex on them at the academy along with the belief they are heroes and above reproach (Narcissist) the first sign of psychopathy

    • @evalunloca
      @evalunloca Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Harrybrown4570oh be quiet

    • @evalunloca
      @evalunloca Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Harrybrown4570not true at all. There's good and bad cops just like there's good and bad ppl. U just have antisocial personality disorder

    • @ReallyISeeYou
      @ReallyISeeYou Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Harrybrown4570Not for murdering a spouse.

  • @racheltonner2509
    @racheltonner2509 27 дней назад +7

    Most people who commit suicide don't do it in front of someone.

  • @sandymartin642
    @sandymartin642 Месяц назад +7

    I'm so confused. First of all, YES, I totally believe he had her write that note and killed her after she passed out. So that's premeditated. So if he was planning on killing her, why would he leave her body in that position, leave the chamber out of the gun, and leave the gun at her feet? It doesn't make since. Or was he so intoxicated he just forgot to fix everything. Does anyone understand

    • @verjanhamilton6287
      @verjanhamilton6287 28 дней назад

      I think he forced her to drink as well. Can't believe they didn't check her and him, the shower etc.

    • @jjm8224
      @jjm8224 26 дней назад

      Exactly what I was thinking. Why would he stage the body so stupidly? Maybe he is just that dumb.

  • @edwardwong654
    @edwardwong654 9 дней назад +2

    When my ex-gf and I broke up, one of the first men she dated was an NYPD. She did not get into details but she said DO NOT DATE COPS. Of course that is a generalization but for whatever the cause, it is usually not good. I know many good cops, but not on a dating level.

    • @devianadkar7969
      @devianadkar7969 8 дней назад

      You are generalising. I mean she could say not to date men of your race either. That does not mean something is inherently wrong with a group.

  • @jamesmagnus8973
    @jamesmagnus8973 Месяц назад +53

    Never, ever even date a cop.
    Any cop, for any reason, never!

    • @toolrammsteindeftones
      @toolrammsteindeftones Месяц назад +1

      Yeah we see this with cops alot

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 29 дней назад +4

      Cop, Military, Firefighters, certain doctors like surgeons, pilots, lawyers, CEOs, media jobs, sales, religious leaders, chefs and civil servants....A lot of them have God complexes and their professions recruit more adulterers, sociopaths, psychopaths and narcissists. Their jobs are also high-stress and competitive and they bring that aspect of their work home and use it on their families and friends. They also have a lot of opportunities to be "away" for work or spending a lot of time alone with the opposite sex.
      I dated Only a few times a lawyer but I went to law school but never became a lawyer. I know how lawyers operate. I kept my cards very close to my chest while dealing with him. Made friends with his next girlfriend and OMG...he would try to triangulate her and me. Then he dumped her for a 17 year old...he was 67.....So at one point he was telling me ( we mutually agreed to stop dating), the ex-girlfriend who he dumped and the 17-year-old that he loved us. Lol!
      I never believed him as I've got quite an avoidant attachment style and my father taught me to at least have some sort of rational reasoning instead of using my emotions.....The other lady and girl I think never had a father figure or husband in their life so looked up to this sociopathic narcissistic lawyer. Never pander to or enable a man. The world and society won't and other men for sure won't. If they don't feel competent and confident in the world and against other men, they will take it out on women and children.

    • @Blazesnooze49
      @Blazesnooze49 29 дней назад +1

      Engineers are the best mates

    • @4eversteena
      @4eversteena 29 дней назад +2

      ​@@Blazesnooze49🤔 My adulterous biological father was an engineer!

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 28 дней назад +1

      @@4eversteena yeah my abusive former husband was an engineer.

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo 27 дней назад +4

    I know he was sick when they met, but living with his mother, parents paying his way through life, daddy buying him a house, cutting off Amanda's family, not wanting her to have a cell phone/car, doing drugs and lots of alcohol - all red flags. I think that creep was used to always getting his way and valued his (false) reputation as a good cop and family man, but didn't actually care about living up to it. He was a horrible human being, and not just to his wife, but also his little girl. There's no telling how he treated the public as a cop, but I'd bet it wasn't good.
    Thankfully, justice was survived in spite of the horrible medical examiner's abysmal failure. The excellent sheriff and prosecutor obviously made all the difference. To think that monster could be loose today is horrifying.

  • @eyesopen66
    @eyesopen66 Месяц назад +12

    What did those monsters do to that beautiful little girl? Poor thing...

  • @OrinKay
    @OrinKay 29 дней назад +6

    PLEASE! STOP USING BALOONS IN ANY KIND OF GATHERINGS , HAPPY OR SAD. THESE ITEMS BRING A LOT OF PROBLEMS TO MANY KINDS OF ANIMALS INCLUDING SHOCKING & DEATH.😢😢😢

  • @h8rainzombiegirl
    @h8rainzombiegirl Месяц назад +29

    I watch 48 hours every day.

  • @keepitsimple4629
    @keepitsimple4629 28 дней назад +6

    How can an ME in their right mind think she shot herself in the head, but the gun ended up below her feet, her hands were neatly folded by her sides, and the gun was chambered AFTER her death?

    • @berenc7619
      @berenc7619 26 дней назад +1

      I suspect there was bribery going in between the sheriff' and ME .

  • @MoneikeReynolds
    @MoneikeReynolds Месяц назад +10

    So he’s a good officer but not a good husband!! I didn’t hear him claim that

  • @jaysteve4442
    @jaysteve4442 Месяц назад +14

    Why would they buy 20 shooter size of the alcohol instead of buying a bottle?
    Terrible for that little girl who had to testify. She knew her dad did it but was scared to say it. Of course

    • @motheryuba57
      @motheryuba57 Месяц назад +2

      The show also said he was giving her pain killers for hours? Did he force her to consume the alcohol or was she an alcoholic? They had years of domestic violence. She was so close to getting out of the marriage.

    • @jaysteve4442
      @jaysteve4442 29 дней назад +3

      @@motheryuba57 I think she was also an alcoholic. Sounds like she didn’t have anything else to do. Just sit in the house & wait on him to get home & yell at her /beat her. Then he was home everyday on leave, drinking & popping pills. She probably joined in to numb her reality. Then became an alcoholic herself. Very sad.

    • @verjanhamilton6287
      @verjanhamilton6287 28 дней назад

      Easy to hide.

  • @maryannebphillips9124
    @maryannebphillips9124 29 дней назад +15

    I cannot imagine why a person would stay in that situation.
    Why agree to quit your job and live with a person who refuses to keep a job.

    • @ruthmelicharles5062
      @ruthmelicharles5062 29 дней назад +3

      Maybe she was desperate for love.

    • @3naturalBionutrition
      @3naturalBionutrition 23 дня назад

      ​@ruthmelicharles5062 that's called a bad decision and Accountability must be placed on her

  • @flightlessdrone5734
    @flightlessdrone5734 29 дней назад +6

    Seth - "if my parents are taking care of me and buying me houses and sh!t, why the fkk did I join the police department?--- let me fall down these steps real quick..." 😆😂

  • @monicamclaughlin9993
    @monicamclaughlin9993 Месяц назад +18

    I truly don’t understand why we would stay in a situation where we think we might be unalived… if I’m at the point where i think I’m going to lose my life, I’m leaving immediately

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 29 дней назад +3

      Cognitive dissonance and your brain is re-wired to think that you have to stay. I have mental health conditions and I am a domestic abuse survivor. took me 9 months and 2 attempts to leave...and I wasn't isolated or financially dependent and no kids were involved. Now every day I have to spend re-wiring my brain back to rational, functional. stable and adaptive.

    • @caitlynm924
      @caitlynm924 26 дней назад +1

      @@marleyhill34thank you for explaining how this happens ❤

    • @Catz1in2025
      @Catz1in2025 9 дней назад

      Surviving an abuse relationship for 29 years myself, I can tell you the amount of manipulation in such a relationship is huge. That is why I waited for 29 years to leave.

  • @debidriscoll8108
    @debidriscoll8108 25 дней назад +4

    I bet she wrote that letter with a gun point at her

  • @Lalaloveseveryone
    @Lalaloveseveryone 25 дней назад +3

    Wait, he was able to get custody of his child, and he didn't even have a job? All he had to do was get married? And that was good enough for a court of law? 😐

  • @lonestarbellepk
    @lonestarbellepk 28 дней назад +11

    Women who criticize and judge women like Amanda for "why don't you just leave" show their stupidity. Women who are being physically, emotionally and financially controlled are feeling trapped and in fear. Why not help her instead judging.

    • @vse7727
      @vse7727 25 дней назад

      Amen

    • @3naturalBionutrition
      @3naturalBionutrition 23 дня назад +2

      You can't criticize a woman who went to live with a sick jobless man who lives with his parents and has a kid and doesn't let her have a phone or go places. And she stayed.
      Stop it

    • @annamarielewis7078
      @annamarielewis7078 20 дней назад

      Women need to get it together. Fix yourself. Don’t expect anyone else to fix you.

    • @annamarielewis7078
      @annamarielewis7078 20 дней назад +2

      @@3naturalBionutritionI think I love you😂

  • @atomtron1066
    @atomtron1066 27 дней назад +6

    First Thing I would say as someone questioning him
    "SO you were so horrible to your wife that she only saw Suicide as a way to get out of this relationship?!?"

  • @kathycromwell7247
    @kathycromwell7247 21 день назад +3

    She’s afraid of him his own daughter is afraid of… he should never be near her

  • @chikkinnuggits
    @chikkinnuggits Месяц назад +12

    The type of person whose parents buy him a house probably shouldn't be a cop (unless they won the lottery)

    • @Verawnique
      @Verawnique 29 дней назад +1

      Everyone around him was an enabler...parents, the poor wife. It's all so sad....

  • @catherineturley
    @catherineturley Месяц назад +8

    they both seem crazy. that poor little girl. i can't believe kids have to grow up like that

  • @jammaqual6352
    @jammaqual6352 28 дней назад +6

    Youd think with all that suspicions, its common sense to check her hand for gun residue and the gun for prints. Verify his story if it matches where the blood was on his pants and gun residue. Tf

  • @Ms.Laterholmes5253
    @Ms.Laterholmes5253 9 дней назад +1

    I love the sheriff good for him for being so bold and understanding that he’s just not part of the boys club and picking up on clues.

  • @48hours.TrueCrime
    @48hours.TrueCrime Месяц назад +25

    Many people get engrossed in True Crime, and some studies suggest it can influence our thinking, making us more aware of human behavior but also sometimes inducing unnecessary anxiety.

    • @caitlynm924
      @caitlynm924 26 дней назад +1

      i do think it’s very important to know how prevalent domestic violence is and how often it results in death. we should be a little anxious about this.

    • @annamarielewis7078
      @annamarielewis7078 20 дней назад +1

      I agree with the anxiety part.

  • @audravonreaden.5631
    @audravonreaden.5631 Месяц назад +33

    Please stop sending those balloons in air. Find another way to send your messages. Please.

    • @mariecoyle3247
      @mariecoyle3247 Месяц назад +6

      Agree. Pollution and a danger to wildlife and livestock.

  • @simonaivancic
    @simonaivancic 29 дней назад +4

    Meeting people online is such a Russian roulette.
    Do not do it.

  • @Panwere36
    @Panwere36 Месяц назад +7

    The call to his boss (now ex-chief of police) is a bigger tell

  • @vc5243
    @vc5243 Месяц назад +11

    The gun was never dusted for prints??

  • @shelleyboom5594
    @shelleyboom5594 27 дней назад +4

    The medical examiner should face charges, among others.

  • @Newseason8
    @Newseason8 24 дня назад +3

    When a woman is tired of an abusive situation, she will pull a Tina Turner! Tina Turner was so sick of Ike's beatings, that she waited until he fell asleep after the last time he beat her, then ran for her life with only the clothes on her back, and she never looked back! The only thing she wanted from Ike in divorce court was to keep her last name Turner, so the Judge granted her request. When you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, you'll leave with only the clothes on your back, with kid(s) in tow if you have any! Stay safe and stay blessed!

  • @patricia-fz8et
    @patricia-fz8et Месяц назад +6

    Drive thru liquor store....drinking and driving is supposed to be illegal, not make it easier for people

  • @Katinka6413
    @Katinka6413 27 дней назад +3

    He said he hugged her after she supposedly shot herself... I wonder why he wouldn't just say so unless he had something to hide! He claimed he didn't touch her!

  • @Ladee4Justice
    @Ladee4Justice Месяц назад +6

    22:34. Called his boss instead of 911? 🤔 Hmmmm

  • @TheEC35
    @TheEC35 27 дней назад +5

    Canton, MA. Learn from this. This is how you investigate and don’t coverup for corrupt cops.

    • @linnysezmo323
      @linnysezmo323 26 дней назад +2

      Yes! This is referring to the Karen Read case, right?

    • @TheEC35
      @TheEC35 25 дней назад +2

      @@linnysezmo323 yes! And we can’t forget Sandra Birchmore.

  • @OneIroNauT_1
    @OneIroNauT_1 22 дня назад +2

    Imagine letting all this go on in front of your 7-8 year old daughter. Fn insane.

  • @AnasCreativeCorner
    @AnasCreativeCorner 29 дней назад +3

    This was a toxic household. Low vibrational adults. May she rest in peace, but Amanda should not have told the little girl her father would "shoot her dead". That's not a conversation you have with a child, who has already had the misfortune of witnessing two useless individuals who could not get their lives together.

  • @morriselliott7004
    @morriselliott7004 25 дней назад +3

    This POS punk didn't have pot to pi$$ in that wasn't paid for by his parents. I don't understand why women, after decades of info have been put out about domestic violence and abusers put themselves in this situation. She had a clear chance to get the hell out when he was arrested and chose to stay. What woman in this day and age would go without a car or cellphone or a job for a scumbag? I simply don't get it

  • @patricialynn6280
    @patricialynn6280 28 дней назад +4

    Thankfully there were some honest people with integrity on this case and justice was served and the family received some closure and the few dishonest ones didnt get their way.

  • @renaestevenson1361
    @renaestevenson1361 22 дня назад +2

    This Coroner got it wrong..."Suicide."??? In fact, this Coroner's work (overall and along with previous other findings) should be re-evaluated. Not okay and it shows VERY MUCH SO. Rest in Peace, Amanda. I am SO relieved your husband (whatever his name is) was found guilty.

  • @joanalmarghani661
    @joanalmarghani661 26 дней назад +4

    Would love to hear first wifes story

  • @MilleyGirl
    @MilleyGirl 28 дней назад +2

    Thank you to Amanda's sisters for raising awareness about domestic violence. As someone who is a survivor and is passionate about raising awareness with your want to clarify something many victims say, which is not true. Choking is what happens when something is lodged inside your airway. Strangulation is when tbe airway is restricted from the outside. If anyone has ever put their hands or another object around your neck and restricted your airway, you were strangled. Strangulation and stalking (monitoring, as it was stated in this espisode) are predictors of death. Please if you've ever been strangled, see a doctor as soon as possible, theres almost always injuries seen on the inside, and most importantly, get help from someone you trust and your local DV shelter.

  • @earthrooster1969
    @earthrooster1969 29 дней назад +3

    33:05 how unfair for a little kid to witness the violence perpetrated by her own father..
    The sick father who got custody of her be marrying the lady who was being tortured..
    This abuse leaves lifelong scars, if not generational...

  • @Orangeshebert
    @Orangeshebert 29 дней назад +2

    Holy cow this was disturbing. Thank goodness for the investigatior’s perseverance and the jury’s intelligence.

  • @GritsandGraceSF
    @GritsandGraceSF 28 дней назад +3

    She wouldn't fight if she was passed out, now would she?

  • @JulieRushworth-k4w
    @JulieRushworth-k4w 27 дней назад +4

    That poor poor child, traumatised for life. Two toxic people leading to death