Alexandr Dugin and John David Ebert in Conversation
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Alexandr Dugin and I discuss Russian identity, Ukraine, Heidegger, Spengler, Plato, Aristotle and Slavoj Zizek, as well as popular culture .
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Nicely done. Noomakhia is a great topic.
J D Ebert talks to A Dugin ... I would have expected nothing less :-) Well done JDE.. Perhaps we'll now got some real background to all this
Yes, that's exactly right.
I was not expecting this at all! This was a very fascinating conversation. Hope to see more of this in future
There will be. Definitely.
Didn’t expect this
I didn't either.
Very brave of you to give prof. Dugin a chance to expound his views on this conflict. Interesting.
Dugin says in 2014: "kill ukrainians, kill kill kill, mast be dead". He is crazy (schizophrenia)
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Thank you, Mr. Redundancy - his political background was precisely WHY I said it was "brave" of John to host him at this "delicate time" . Also, he is not schizophrenic, but his ideas are pretty extreme and (for the most part) not my cup of tea. I am actually a (sort of) Eurasianist myself, but Dugin is more of a "neo-Sovietist" .
@@Danko_Sekulic yea, you make sence. He is more of neo-fashizm
@@namename1801 You have not idea what you talk about. He said Neo Sovietism not fascism. Which is essentially a Russian universalism. If someone would want to create some kind of “Nationalistic” Euro Asianism, it would simply be deviation of Western or Anglo Saxon liberalism. Like all those new post French Revolution monarchies are.
@@theman3923 yeah, we know this fairytales like "its not a war, it's special operation".
This is a big achievement John. Congrats.
Thanks!
Two living legends right here!!
Yes. Been waiting for this.
Thank you both sincerely!
You're welcome!
This is going to be a treat!
Pynchon is definitely the epitome of that spirit of pragmaticism that Mr. Dugin describes!
Absolutely! The dissolved or liquid state of the subject-object divide and the reliance on relationship for definition allows for so much mystery and paranoia to creep in. Pynchon has a love of ambiguity in common with the Russians. I always thought Vaslav Tchicherine, the Soviet agent in GR was a great character, scavenging and hunting for his mythical half-brother to kill...
Thank you for having this conversation. So many people misunderstand Dugin, due to the false characterization of his thought.
Bad ass. Would love to hear Dugin’s take on Peter Kingsley
Does ebert discuss kingsley? This is my first introduction to ebert.
@@fryingwiththeantidote2486 not to my knowledge, just feel like there is a lot of resonance between AD and PK.
I agree: Prof. Dugin is a gem, a total treasure.
great conversation!
Glad you liked it. More with Dugin to come.
@@johnebert5627 Iḿ looking forward to that.
JDE swinging in the big leagues here and more than holding his own. I always knew that he's a world-class intellect, he's definitely earned this spot. Respect to both public intellects from opposite marginal steppes decaying modernity. This proves that you'll never have clear perspective in the belly of the beast; this is why I have always lived in the provinces. Some of your most clear-eyed, no BS thinkers live here in America's heartland. Anyway, thanks JDE and congratulations.
Thanks, as always, Kyle for your support and enthusiasm.
can you name a few no bs thinkers you're referring to from that region you're referring?
I wish the Noohmakia series was translated.
Makes me want to learn Russian just to translate it. I've heard people used to self-learn languages by translating works.
Dugin himself has several learning techniques based on readings. As a Russian speaker from the west, want to translate him myself one day.
@@prostoname5338 do you mind elaborating, I'm interested to learn what his learning techniques are, thank you!
@@GlobalTheatreSkitsoanalysis for sure, firstly, he advices to read books by translating almost every word. Personally, I learned English that way. However, that technic requires knowing alphabet. It works for Russians, because Latin letters are known worldwide. So, that’s not a challenge to start. Although, if you want to learn Russian, it might be quite challenging. Learn alphabet and just dive into language fully, films, videos, books, songs. At first, you would not understand anything, but true dedication will make difference in a short period.
Michael Millerman has an online course called "Introduction to Noomakhia". It's just an introduction but it's multiple hours and it's the best you're gonna get in english at this point in time
Dugin also has lectures in English about it (his lectures in serbia, uploaded by Key West Sicilian)
Sad to see the attempted murder of Dugin. Tragic & immoral is the murder of his daughter. The madness continues to thrive as desolation stakes a claim on the human heart.
So sad. Apologies to Dugin from the US, our out of control CIA is the enemy of the world. Our founding fathers would be outraged at what we have become.
I agree with Dugin that Russia is approaching a peak in understanding of something important. I think relative to the purpose of human existence. I have found the Russians I have met to be more advanced in respect for humanity, in a very beautiful way, in my opinion. I always enjoy learning about and from other cultures.
Dugin is a true genius
It's all bla bla bla bs.
1:21:06 Dugin on how he enjoys Troma movies. The possibility of Dugin having seen Zac Amico on screen is insane to me.
The fact you are watching this is just as wild. I enjoy your clips
If we should talk about pseudomorphosis, we need to talk about how you are transforming into Spengler himself John, please if you ever make a lot of money with a book don't do what Oswald did and just indulge in gluttony and sword collecting, we'll need more books from you
Thank you!
HOLY SHIT thanks for this vid!
You're quite welcome!
That was epic! i had to look up Sibyl. I like Dugins take on using Apollo/Dionysius/Sybil to study the point of view of a civilization. Someone already confirmed Dugins movie reference as Troma films. I also love B-movies as being unconstrained by convention. Well done John! :)
Cybele not Sybil. She is equivalent to the Greek goddess Rhea. And thanks, Don, as always!
Read the Sibillene Oracles. Maybe not exactly what he's thinking of, but definitely mystical and trippy.
Watching now!! This channel never disappoints.
I'm so glad you like it!
Dugin himself! Big John David deliver again.
I aim to please!
I liked this amazing podcast including the wonderful Russian accent 😃
Yes that's true. Historical revisionism. Everyone knows that Vladimir I the first was a dyed-in-the-wool Ukrainian and that Ukraine's history goes back 1000 years. Everyone knows that Kiev was the thriving capital city of Christian Eastern Europe when Moscow was a few log cabins strewn along a river. Everyone knows that Ukraine is winning the war and that Putin has had five heart attacks, two strokes and is dying of three different types of cancer. Everyone knows that has isolated and not able to think rationally. Everyone knows that Zelenskyy is a war hero lives a simple life in his battle fatigues among his soldiers, while corrupt Putin is a billionaire. That is our western truth.
Seriously? Historical revisionism? The only type of historical scholarship is historical revisionism. Ask any historian.
That's the thesis of Dugin in a nutshell. Civilization has its own history and therefore its own truth. History is the only truth. And somehow we all have to learn to live with each other without trying to conquer and cancel each other.
Impressive interview. I wish I could leave a more substantial comment but my brain is struggling to comprehend all that I just heard.
OK,. mind blown now.by 1:20. Dugin's characterization of American Pragmatism as not caring about subject or object..this is a startling original mind. Furthermore, I can't wrap my head around the fact that a mind like Dugin advises the Kremlin. And that a brilliant singular mind like Ebert's can grow in a desert.
Dugin has been totally misrepresented and slandered in the mainstream. I remember reading his Wikipedia page many years ago, describing him as a fascist and (having listened to him) thinking there is a reason they are vilifying him. I think he is the most important thinker of our time, mainly because he is the most articulate and coherent critic of Liberalism (that thing that oppresses us now). He is a very serious and earnest thinker - the odd segue Mr Ebert attempted to exit the Ukraine conversation highlighted this (and I think showed up a cultural difference). Stick with him.
(Not sure about the 'advising the Kremlin' notion being a myth, more than actuality, unless somebody can tell me otherwise?).
John is a terrific interviewer!
1:21:55
I think Dugin was talking about Troma here. Really surprising to hear about his taste in pop culture. Wish Ebert had been able to get more out of him on this topic.
I'll get to that in the next conversation.
@@johnebert5627 Looking forward to it my dude 👍
Great stuff John, real heavy weight
Thanks!
Wow! Thanks! 💚🇧🇷
You're welcome.
Thank you. Dugan is so likable on many levels. Now do Biden's philosophic advisor and let's compare. LOL
Hahaha I love how they both get the necessary commentary on Ukraine over with so they just talk about philosophy
Yeah we kinda had to get that out of the way.
Dude this is the greatest thing I've ever fucking seen! When dugin goes into how he loves b-movies I started cackling 🤣🤣🤣 dugin has definitely found the soul of the north american
I love the guy. He is truly AWESOME!
He ain't kidding about Troma films either. They did delightful trash like The Toxic Avenger
I've always thought that there were two Logoi in America. The Saxon Puritanism of the northern colonies. And the Anglican High Church aristocracy of the South. We are an amalgamation of Anglo-Saxon Protestantism coopted by the French Enlightenment.
in awe that Dugin talking about Takashi Miike. Really unexpected.
Oh yeah baby! Oh yeah!
Yup!
I think Dugin is right about Pragmatism. It's freeing. It's the perfect tool for breaking westerners out of scientism.
Mr. Ebert, I would love to get your take on Hegel's Philosophy of History in comparison to Spengler's own historiography. Where they diverge, where they connect.
For Spengler, Dasein (Being) is first and Wachsein (waking being) is secondary. For Hegel, it is the opposite. In Hegelian terms: The Begriff (concept) is dominant in history. However, Hegel does acknowledge the importance of culture (Sittlichkeit in his terms) but not as profoundly thought through as Spengler. Spengler sees Hegel as a typical Faustian author because he integrates world history into his scheme. But Spengler is not as Eurocentric as Hegel. Spengler had much more intuitions regarding cultural differences and especially the ensoulment of people, which is visible in eg philosophy but also deeper, more social, related to non-rational ‘form languages’, eg architecture. Spenglers philosophy of history is more encompassing. Yet Hegels categories are further developed. Dasein/Wachsein is rather simplistic compared to Hegels notion of freedom or Geist.
I am going to incorporate that into one of my school's classes on The Philosophy of Civilizations.
@@johnebert5627 Much obliged. I think that would be great. It's something I've been thinking about for a while now. Particularly the aspect of what seems to be Hegel's extremely linear historiography. And of course since reading Spengler 4-5 years ago, I think his more cyclical theory of analysis is far superior than anyone else I've read on the subject.
With Hegel however, I do see a great deal of value even amongst the linear or 'progressive' view of history as a whole. Although again I lean much toward the cyclical view.
I realize that they aren't necessarily approaching the topic in the same way either. I feel like Spengler is more preoccupied with the process, so to speak, of the civilization more broadly. At the same time I do see Hegel's dialectics applicable within Spengler's theory of history too.
@@jellevanbaardewijk7253 Thank you for the input as well. I'm currently reading the Philosophy of Right after finishing his Philosophy of History and much of the very terminology from your comment has already popped up a number of times.
@@johnebert5627 Again, thank you Mr Ebert for the response. Always enjoy your hard hitting interpretations.
Dugin has very interesting ideas and a well structured analysis of history. I’m not yet sure what my conclusions are, but feel trouble is fast coming to the world from several angles. Not sure what impact mutually assured destruction will have on this process.
I learnt some more from this exchange, thank you.
OK, now Dugin is getting to the heart of the matter, i.e. the fundamental difference between Plato and Aristotle. This aligns with my own studies and conclusions, that modernists are anti-Plato.
Plato at 45 min.
It's true modernists are anti-Platonic. But modernists are also anti-Aristotlian( they distort Aristotle). The Renaissance Interpretation considered Aristotle as different from Plato. But the "neo-platonists" didn't consider Aristotle as irreconcilable from Plato. For eg. Aristotle also uses the word "another world"( but he phrases it in a different way. He names it "sublunary world" in his Physics for the domain that is subject to change. This can also be seen in Thomas's account. In the Middle Ages they believed in that everything above the moon was not subject to change. They also believed thay there was four elements: air, fire, water and earth. It was a different world). Many modern thinkers, reinterpret ancient Philosophers acc. to their own pre-existing views( I think "modern" means "just now", according to etymology account I was able find. Modernity is deviation, a very big one)
Yes, I agree.
@@apricus3155 Agreed. Aristotle was a Platonist. His teachings were distorted for a materialist worldview. Interesting that the Protestant worldview, so quick to embrace the new and reject the old, to reject nature in favor of the mechanical, is coming undone right before our eyes. You can't have infinite material growth on a finite planet.
This man is a treasure. I stayed clued to the screen till the very end catching every word.
thats amazing!!!
It would be interesting if Zizek and Dugin went head to head with each other because they both seem not to have an affinity towards each other but on a different basis.
Zizek isn’t too interesting - his ideas are predictable since they merely echo Lacan and Lacanian theory
I like the noose description of exception if makes Steiner safe.
00:00 - Ukraine
22:00 - What is NOOMAKHIA?
60 minutes will not show their semi-recent Dugin interview. So I posted this on their channel. LOL
Alexandr Dugin watches Troma! This is huge!!
That's what I thought he was saying and I came to the comments to see if anyone else caught it! Wonder if he's seen The Toxic Avenger.
I looked Troma up after the interview. It's hilarious that he likes their stuff!
Ukraine officially was declared an independent country on 24 August 1991, after the Union Soviet colapse.
Very interesting interview. I have also been very interested in Dugin's thought, and his personality for several years now. I will write in to this comment some of the thoughts I've had regarding his work and personality over the years.
There is a kind of a mystical text on the internet by Dugin called "Nouse, supi" ("Rise, raccoon dog") which has been published only in Finnish as far as I know. It caught my attention and had some very profound insights into the mystical North, connecting it with sleep paralysis, nostalgia, mythical Hyperborea, and many other things. Reading it, it felt like Dugin really had some great insight into the Finnish soul. I have not read his book The History and Worldview of the Finno-Ugric Civilization, but I am very interested in what he has to say there.
Mr. Dugin is of course a somewhat controversial figure in Finland due to his book Foundations of Geopolitics for the Russian military, where he outlined a plan to make Finland part of Russia again. Because of this book and especially the short section concerning Finland, Mr. Dugin is feared by many people, he is seen as dangerous, even his ideas are seen as dangerous, and, it is suggested he has this agenda of imperial conquest whether he openly admits it or not. It would be great if Dugin's idea of dialogue between the peoples would happen, so that all countries and peoples could understand each others perspectives and wars could be avoided. Unfortunately the Finns, or rather those international globalists who wield such incredible influence on the mind of the Finnish people through their mass communications systems, don't seem to be interested in understanding the Russian position, and so they resort to cheap propaganda, name-calling, accusations of people who want to understand Russia of being fifth column, working for the enemy, etc.
One very interesting idea Dugin had was the Fourth Political Theory, I think it is an open question, which is calling people to participate intellectually in creating this 4th political theory. When it comes to the people being the subject of the revolution, or the movement let's say, this is great, absolutely. It's the people, not the elites, not the special interest groups, not the globalists, but the people, who grow from the land and are a part of the land, the people are part of the living space, and it is time for this living space and the people it produces to wake up and reclaim their land, from this "liberal" ideological system, which of course has turned into its own opposite, as hegelian dialectics predict would happen, all thought-forms always turn into their own opposites in the dialectical process of history, so it's natural liberalism has become anti-liberalism which wants to shut people into their homes and turn the whole planet into a kind of prison, with constant surveillance of movement, surveillance of the use of funds, and so forth and so on.
Dugin's answer to the rotten liberal ideological system, as exemplified by the Anglo-American Sea-Empire, is to unite the scattered remnants of the two failed ideologies, fascism and communism. From this pseudo-alchemical process the new synthesis of the fourth political theory will emerge, against liberalism, and what it represents to Dugin: that is extreme individualism, anti-traditionalism, and indeed in some Christian sense The Anti-Christ, Satan, Sodom, The Tower of Babel, and so on. In the idealized Russian imagination, Russia stands for traditional humanity and against the child trannies, pride parades, post-birth abortions and other abominations, cyborgs, human-animal hybrids and so on. However, in this era of conspiracy theories and paranoia, Dugin can also become the subject of conspiracy theories, for example relating to his connection with Thelema, Alisteir Crowley and the world of the occult. Is Dugin some kind of a warlock?
It is all very fascinating, but I would say the fourth political theory, which must now emerge, should rather be a synthesis of all the three former ideologies, including liberalism. Liberalism can not be seen as all bad, but the positive kernel of this ideology must be understood and embraced, liberalism can not be thought of only as a ideological-geopolitical empire of the 20th and the 21st centuries, but especially people in the west and Europe need to go back to their roots, when liberalism really got going in the 1700s and 1800s when nationalism, liberalism and democracy started to form. I think this great period of change we've entered can be compared with the Renaissance, the Reformation, or the Enlightenment. Dugin would probably say that the Enlightenment was a mistake, a horrible departure from tradition which led to the catastrophe of modernity, but I think we must see it as a necessary misstep, something which we learned from, something which was necessary for the evolution of human consciousness. Yes, but it is necessary that the prodigal son be lost first, so that he can return to his fathers house. Without the fall, there is no redemption, and thus if this enlightenment, liberalism, democracy was a fall, then it still was a necessary fall and a necessary step in the dialectic, the meaning of which must also be understood and integrated, not rejected. If modernity was a nightmare, then all the more we need to try to understand its meaning when we finally wake up.
I think, that this New Awakened Civilization which will arise from the ashes of the old order, must start as a purely intellectual, or spiritual movement, and it indeed already has started, as the "golden chain" of philosophy has been re-discovered, the dialectical and mystical traditions of thought which have been buried underground, or in the marginal, are making a comeback. It seems many people are becoming interested in mysticism, and in dialectical thinkers like Hegel, Jung, and Steiner. Europe is coming alive again, the Spirit is coming alive again, under oppression it grows stronger, in the darkness it shines all the brighter. As we learn to understand each other's cultures from the inside, for example as Finns we should also learn about Russian poetry, literature, philosophy, to understand their point of view from the inside, not just make these war propaganda caricatures how Russians are always war-like, deceiving, conquering and plundering criminals and an eternal threat. This real Russian threat can only be neutralized through dialogue, friendship, and genuine diplomacy, but it is the globalists who don't want peoples to come to peace. It is true that Russia is more authoritarian, but then in East Asia there are even more authoritarian and despotic societies, and the west simply can not try and force its individualism on them. However, if this dialogue between peoples is allowed to happen, then the best ideas will win eventually, if the process of the dialectic is allowed to play out without censorship and manipulation attempts by forces who do not care about truth, but only about power over others. The proponents of individualism must speak too, let all viewpoints be heard and considered. The east and the west, the north and the south, all of human peoples and civilizations should come to a serious dialogue, and a serious dialectical process with each other for the good of humanity.
Dugin says he does not like Zizek, but I think the Dugin-Zizek debate would be an extremely interesting super-event. We saw Zizek vs Peterson, and clearly Zizek defeated the Canadian thinker, but we also saw Dugin debate Bernard Henri Levy and come out as the victor. So now that the semi-finals are over, it's time for Dugin and Zizek to debate. They are the only two public philosophers of the 21st century with truly global interest and impact. Their public debate could be the Socratic dialogue which catalyzes the thinking process of mankind, and awakens wisdom from her slumber, it could even unite the far left and the far right against the neo-liberal capitalist hegemony and possibly even bring peace between the east and the west.
I wish more Finns are open-minded like you.
I totally agree with you.
You raise some good points. I have to find out about this Zizek.
Zizek is too scared to debate Dugin, but he's currently got his minions attempting to organize a "debate" between him and Nick Land right now
Julius Evola - Revolt Against the Modern World; Ride the Tiger; Metaphysics of Power; The Bow and the Club; Recognitions; The Fall of Spirituality; The Hermetic Tradition.
1:23:23 Dugin on Zizek
Bring Jorjani and Mr Land with you next time you visit Dugin, Eggbert!
Yes, do this!
imagine
You should get Nick Land on here, that would be great. Or discuss his ideas
Rather he should have Land and Dugin on together to talk
@@elon_bust lol wtf are you doing here?
Part 2 coming soon?
Dugin confirmed he is a big fan of The Bee Movie with Jerry Seinfeld
what he said on southern chinese matriarchal culture is interesting, especially me being from a people that originated in south china
What a coup John getting this interview. Dugin sees what we've known for years.
Indeed!
Fascinating conversation, John. Great work getting such an esteemed guest on the program. You have mentioned before that you have a book of Spengler's essays from which you draw a lot of your own thought. I was wondering, what is the name of this book? It's details? Publisher, etc. I am looking for a good edition.
.+Отче наш, Иже еси на небесех. Да святится имя Твое. Да приидет царствие Твое, да будет воля Твоя, яко на небеси и на земли. Хлеб наш насущный даждь нам днесь. И остави нам долги наша, якоже и мы оставляем должником нашим. И не введи нас во искушение. Но избави нас от лукаваго.
Яко Твое есть Царство, и сила, и слава Отца, и Сына, и Святаго Духа ныне и присно и во веки веков. Аминь.
Good stuff.
thanks
"Putin vs. Putin" John David Ebert has already covered this phenomenon of living avatars in his book "Dead Celebrities/Living Icons"
I look forward to defeating this man. Its going to be quite fun.
Also his dissimulation game is spot on.
Reminds me of John Howard Griffin's works in America.
BRAVO DUGIN !!
"all right". that's a proper opening line
Ok this is epic
It truly is. We're planning more talks. Stay tuned.
@@johnebert5627 Dugin says: "kill ukrainians, kill kill kill, mast be dead". He is crazy (schizophrenia)
Hello John by coincidence I saw this video of the final duel scene in the good the bad and the ugly a few days after watching your conversation with Alexander Dugin ruclips.net/video/00IhBagFmZ8/видео.html
Clint Eastwood ( Blondie) incarnates very well the Apollonian logos ( aloof, calm); Ellie Wallach ( Tuco) is perfectly dyonisian ( double dealing, chaotic but lovable); Lee Van Cleef ( angel eyes) is the sybillian logos in its cold materialistic glory.
As the critic points out, when the three men position themselves for the duel Angel Eyes implicitly trusts Blondie but never takes his eyes off from Tuco. During the duel, the dyonisian logos keeps nervously looking back and forth at the two men, while the sybillian logos is more scared of the appolonian trancendence.
By the way your patreon is not working ( at least it does not work for me). Any other way I can pay you your guru dakshina ( traditional fee paid by the disciple to his guru )?
I've resisted this KEEV-not-Kiev thing until now but if Dugin calls it KEEV, then it's good enough for me.
Watch this at 1.25x speed .
Great to have Mr. Dugin but I think he would be far smarter than he is actually. Or maybe Dugin doesnt explain well this topics, seems confusing when explains history. But it is great to listen to Mr. Dugin.
First. This should be interesting
Where can I find Dugins lectures?
where are those lectures from dugin in belgrade that you mentioned?
who has a link to the 8 part NOOMAKHIA lecture series read by Alexander Dugin in Belgrade, Serbia (Spring 2018) referred to here? seems the you tube links have been removed.
Key West Sicilian uploaded them
So this history he talks about, was that prior to or after Olga of Kyiv? I was under the impression Russia was influenced by Vikings!
1:28:33 World trash movie lover and Tarkovsky hater announces
ruZZia's "Apocalyptic mission"...can this get even better?
Yes- his English + Slavoj Zizek's sneezing, a dream freak show!
Russia is an agrommerate of 85 Federal regions, some of then have their own language, some left after 1991.
Can't believe Dugin possibly enjoys the Toxic Avenger from Troma entertainment.
The day you gave Dugin a platform was the day I unsubscribed from your Substack. I imagine many other Europeans that follow your content feel the same way.
Don't bet on it.
oh shut up already. crybully.
And nothing of value was lost.
Typical
Russian special brain-destroying operation
10:35 Slavs were not Rurikids, thus not heirs of Russia.
Get Dugin and Zizek to talk
Zizek has called Dugin “unmentionable” - for my money Dugin is the more relevant philosopher
Zizek is not a philosopher. There are no ideas to explore for Dugin. So insted of Dugin and Zizek talking you can go watch Dugin alone. Dugin has red Lacan. So what can Zizek bring to the table
@@haobinlu Pretty sure Zizek’s wrote his dissertation on Lacan
@@noobslayeru yes so why not read Lacan instead of talking with Zizek?
@@haobinlu because watching dugin and Zizek would be interesting
I like Dugin's irony
Dugins favourite director is Takeshi?
I respect his philosophy a lot more after that haha.
no way? Takeshi from Takeshi's castle ?
@@hansfrankfurter2903 Takeshi Kitano. yeah; honestly his films are great. Hana-bi is hands down the most heart wrenching romance out there.
timestamp for mention of Zizek?
1:23:14
Anyone know what seat Dugin has?
GT Racing gamer chair
They just banned all his books from Amazon.
What da???
Talk about a crossover
"Special military operation " is not an an invasion - Prof Eosphor Philosopher Alexandr Dugin
Schizophrenia by Dugin
because it is not by definition
@@haobinlu “Words do not have meaning” - HaobinLu, Dugin fanboy
@@billykotsos4642 I am not, you live in your own world. Made me a Dugin fanboy and is happy about it.
@@billykotsos4642 also I did not say they have no meaning. If you do not live in an imaginary world, your whole worldview would fall apart. that is why you always construct it around yourself, wich you demonstrated. Also I would gice you too much credit, saying that you construct a virtual world around yourself. It is being architected for you. You are just a midless working drone.
Its sad to hear Professor Dugin found Tarkovsky pretentious
Yeah it was, a little.
29:00 - a method of unbiased cultural investigation...
bound by distinctions within a 2400 year old greek vocabulary. Because it goes without saying that greek is the best vocabulary, and the surviving records of several thousand athenians (those few preserved by accident or by church or elitie purpose through the millenia) are the best way to articulate and properly measure dasein.
That being said, im all for a history lesson (we all seem to be losing on that front) and admire this project. But claiming the lesson is bigger than the teacher is a lie.
Unless you do magic (or magic tricks, say the atheists) like Christ, to convince some more simple you are bigger than human, and so is your lesson. Thats some kind of logic. But also a different conversation.
RIP Darya Dugina
Very interesting that he said he never answers that question about Putin. There could be many (good) reasons for this, but I am supposing that if he does not talk of this, he does not feed the wild, almost fantastic notions that the West produce to slander Dugin. We have to ask ourselves why he is so vilified and conclude that this is because his critique of its current tendency is so good it must be perverted in some way.
@@oldpersonalaccount The US State and deep State is the key proponent of Liberalism, Modernity and Transhumanism and this quote is about geo-politics. The US is militarily and philosophically occupied by this tendency, as is the UK. His quote makes sense if you wish to tackle that problem politically and in practical terms. Not certain about it myself, but given it is also the policy of the CIA and the British deep state to dismantle tradition, industry, and culture in the West, maybe his point is that we may as well accelerate it to make this deviance reveal itself (I am speculating) - what is the rest of the quote and chapter about? Have you read the book? I know Wikipedia leverage that quote.
@@oldpersonalaccount No, it does not fit with what I said. I am afraid you didn't read me properly (I said, 'I am not certain'). What I believe and what the deep state (which exists regardless of my beliefs) does are two different things. I was trying to interpret him with you (engaging, collaboratively) by suggesting a reading - you then put words in my mouth. I did not mention 'neo-liberal' and do not know what this 'hell fodder' concept is and thank you for what you thought I was going to say.
Have you read his philosophy? I have engaged with that and have not read so much of his geo-politics.
@@oldpersonalaccount Read other people's comments and consider what they are saying , not what you want to project. Conversation is impossible when this occurs.
As somebody who lives in a country that has had a 100 year deluge of Amercian culture, debt and corporations wash out what was once English culture and society and not yet 1 per cent change due to Russian infiltration or influence, yes, I will read with great interest.
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22:00 if you want to by pass the irrelevant discussion of the Russian invasion.
Noomachia is fascinating.
Truly! Hopefully some English translations of the work in its entirety will trickle out as Dugin's popularity in the West and more broadly in the English speaking world continues to rise.