What a absolutely horrendous person he is, as if Geoff hasn't been through enough lost his only son, putting all his energy into fighting for justice for him and now he has to deal with this.
Exactly!! And it proves that roger is a wrongful character If Liam was here he be so angry But again Liam would be here if Liam was not around that roger
Why would Liam waive his HIPPA rights to let the doctors discuss his medical care with Roger if Roger wasn’t part of his team if he was just a “friend” the drs wouldn’t have had permission to send him emails on Liam’s care or to discuss medications or anything else with Roger if Liam himself hadn’t given that permission…I don’t know a lot about the law but I do know about HIPPA in the medical field and they can’t just discuss care with just anyone Liam would’ve had to give permission for his treatment ( care) to be to be discussed with Roger
He’s trying to quiet everyone , but thankfully Harsh and Brian continue with the facts the truth and continue fighting for Liam rip and all his family . Nobody is going to believe a word Nores says . He’s probably broke now that Liam is gone 💔
Suing Geoff and then acting like he cares about Bear? Rodger is trying to buy out his freedom. That little boy needs his dad not money from a guy who helped take him. If this lawsuit is in Fla like I said Geoff will win this and can probably mention everything else. Liam please give your dad strength and continue protect your baby 🙏🤍
It was all planned. Harsh/Brian H. I will say it again: my gut feeling is that Liam was killed in the Hyatt hotel, where we saw him happily signing autographs with his fans. Kate went home knowing he was about to be unalived; that's why she took his money and cards-to use them quickly before the cards could be stopped! After he was unalived at the Hyatt hotel, he was then taken to the sh*t hole Casa Sur Palermo, his head placed on that umbrella stand, still wearing the same clothes remember ?The Casa Sur Palermo was in on it. They got Brett, who would never normally go to such a low-life hotel, to tell the lies of what he had seen! (Even though he changed his story three times.) I think the hotel got paid off; Brett got paid off; Roger got paid off; Kate got paid off; and Brian Paise got paid off! The so-called ladies of the night got Liam's Rolex watch! TMZ got paid off too! As for the suing of Liam's father, it’s all about deflecting what really happened-to try and stop the media insults against Roger! Simon Cowell was also in on it; the crying on Geoff's shoulder at the funeral was all fake! Liam knew something, and I believe he was about to tell the world! So his music company sacked him, knowing about the death clause. It was a win-win for everyone-the reason Liam was taken dead to that hotel, or was murdered inside the hotel, wearing the same clothes from the Hyatt hotel, was because the Hyatt hotel was a good five-star hotel and would never have anything to do with dodgy stuff! I also believe Maya and her mum and dad were involved, and it was her father, the lawyer, who organized for Roger to sue Liam's poor grieving father! It's a ring of silence now! I hope and pray that Liam's family can get justice-I really do-but with so many in on it, it's going to be very difficult to prove! And now this suing business to deflect; we are all so very angry. Thank you, Harsh and Brian, so much for trying to get justice for Liam and his family. ❤😢
@@CC-ub8uk well said. But it needs to go to a full blown murder case. Roger supplied drugs to Liam and drink( that’s neglect ) proof in video and text messages from Liam to Roger. As Brian H says , RN may get away with it, Brian P and the other hotel worker that got drugs for Liam will serve time. They did wrong but Roger got and paid for drugs too for Liam. Neglected him, but the first charge as been dropped against RN( abandonment before death) 5-15 years jail sentence. To Manslaughter 1-5 years, As Brian H states he won’t serve the full time, maybe 6- 8 months if that, such a corrupt country. We want justice first Liam. 1000s of fans worldwide want to see Justice done, god bless Geoff and Karen , his sisters, And Bear. Let’s hope the book is fully thrown at RN for Liams murder, scam bag.
You're on it 😮😮 Brian 😢😢 you've been through all this shit before 😢you know exactly what they're capable of them money hungry scumbags 😢😢 thanks Brian lad & of course harsh ❤❤
Between the letters/emails from the psychologist & the Hotel, both of them lead us to believe that Dodgy Roger was indeed in charge of Liam’s welfare. He calls himself Liam’s manager to the hotel & Lula is the assistant. So he’s pushed everyone out & put everyone who is appointed by Roger in the circle to look after Liam. He can’t get around those emails & I believe that’s the evidence the judge used to charge him. This really looks worse for Dodgy Roger in my opinion. He is absolutely disgusting for doing this!
And until this started I never knew anything about Kate. Since starting to review videos etc, I agree with Brian that there was something between Roger and Kate, I've sensed that from the beginning.
I am a nurse, and on No circumstances can you send medical details, or medication history to anyone, other then the patient, or the named carer who has written permission to do so! It's patient confidentiality.
@HARSH REALITY Just be careful you don’t get sued by Roger’s legal team. A woman said on Facebook that she believed that Madeline McCann was not missing and the McCanns had something to do with Madeline’s ‘disappearance’ . She stated that she beloved Madeline was de@d. The McCannes successfully sued the woman . The woman lost her house and had to sell her possessions . She was distraught. It had the desired effect of shutting people up. It’s only years later that people stated what they really believed about Madeline’s parents involvement . Also Harsh , It’s a good idea to say ‘I believe ‘ . If you believe something in English law , then that’s your personal perception and view on things and is allowed under English law . Also the word ‘allegedly ‘ is good to use , rather than to say ‘It appears ‘ I hope you don’t mind me suggesting this .🙂
Makes me wonder if Kate was in on a plan with the weasel, in public they make it look like they hate each other, any money the weasel makes, Kate gets a portion when the deal is done?
Rogers to do list: Get rid of the Doctor ✅️ Get rid of the Body Guard ✅️ Get rid of the Record Label ✅️ Get rid of the Accountant ✅️ Get rid of the Girlfriend ✅️
It all proved that Roger was isolating Liam and contradicting things Roger has said in the tmz interview, plus texts between the hotel and Roger. What sort of slimeball sues the grieving father of his "friend"
I'm with you Brian. I don't like Kate either. After watching her for the past 2 years, she was never there for Liam. Always about herself. Very immature
Ooir Geoff, not only losing a child under such horrible circumstances only to then be sued it's enough to send someone over the edge! He feels no shame doing that to Liams dad let the man greive in peace. Thank you Harsh and Brian for having these discussions to enlighten us all here ❤ xoxo
OH MY GOD! The body guard’s revelations! That shows with no doubt Nores was engineering Liam’s demise! What an absolute scummy wicked POS! And it has the gall to sue Geoff Payne!!!!! And it wants a JURY trail! So Geoff will have to be in the USA away from home and family, he will put him through that when the man is grieving his son! How can any court or jury find in Nores favour?! I pray it is in the US and not an Argentinan court😮
Is the Florida courts one of the states that would allow a TV trial? Like the likes of what happened with Depp and Heard? Definitely wouldn’t want that at all but wonder if Roger would like that type of attention.
I have been side eyeing a certain person that went to Liam’s funeral. He also appeared on a podcast where his only regret was not keeping the 1D name. Nothing happens without the upper people giving them the ok. Just like Diddy winning his lawsuit against a certain company, then all his vile antics gets exposed. This is just my opinion and not based in fact. Justice 4 Liam 🕊️
Yes I too noticed that certain person too. Sickening to watch offer his condolences to Liam's parents and also no acknowledgement from 1D, And the podcast his one regret not owning the name. Wouldn't be surprised if he arranged NH concert to coincide with Liam being sent to Argentina about his record deal. IMO
I also thought it was strange in that video how they go to say give me the money and Lula corrects Roger and Kate like 5 or 6 times to say it’s my money not the money
@@christinajollands7767 the courts are closed in Argentina until the end of January, Just hope she speaks out. It’s funny that Roger as thrown her under the bus before she has been interviewed, She should speak out, just hope she does.
Yes something happened at Gonzales, it makes the most sense. Casa sur was the stage to explain his death. 100% Roger was doing something dodgy with Liam’s money! And this proves he was pushing to take over Liam’s finances, I suspect Roger was planning on using Liams money for a dodgy deal and Liam found out. There could have been a fight that got out of control, when Roger rang Geoff to tell him Liam died he said ‘There was an accident, or there has been an accident’ yeah an accidental death caused by Roger!
How low can you go Roger? Oh, you just went there! BIG mistake. Justice for Liam and his family we wont forget or forgive. One way or another the truth will come out.
@@REALHARSH don’t worry about your lives being too long, you , Brian H and Rabbit are getting to the bottom of these seedy goings on , RN needs to go down for what we now know. Justice for Liam , I feel so sorry for Geoff and Liams family , as if they are not going through enough, Geoff should sue, RN, TMZ. Hotel . That may fuck Roger up . 🙃
Harsh and Brian I have so much respect for you guys ❤ everyone is so grateful to you 2 keeping up the pressure on these murders- we will keep at this until the truth finally somewhere along the lines comes out - we all need to keep helping and especially for little Bear and Liam’s Dad and family and everyone who loves Liam - boycott Argentina in every way possible- 100% pre-meditated murder against Liam - Justice for Liam ❤️
@REALHARSH In 2017, Macri appointed Laura Bruniard as the judge of the National Court in Criminal/ Correctional Law. Laura Bruniard is obviously appreciative of Macri, and Macri is friends with Roger... essentially, Judge Bruniard is a little too close and associated with someone who did took part in Liam's murder and should be punished.
I agree Brian that Gonzo and Brian are the ones that were steering Liam to the business side Gonzo made sure to say in an interview that he couldn't leave America at thet time. I don't think Niall would ever be involved with anything to harm Liam. Thats not to say the record company's weren't involved.
It was well publicised that Liam was at Niall’s concert via social media , yet no other trips to places were . I believe that it was a ruse used by Liam that he was there especially to support Niall. Also , Liam could have flown over to Argentina and stayed for a day or two and then flown back to the UK . He didn’t need to stay in Argentina for 2 weeks just to see Niall in concert . I believe that Liam was in Argentina for another reason .
I noticed that when Kate left and was showing off her ticket which actually documents -1 Direction Business class!! Remember also that there were NO photos of Liam with any fans outside the casa Sur Palermo hotel Only one fan called Diana said she spoke with him at that hotel! But strangely when she done that video about talking to him, I recognised her as a fan at the Hyatt hotel! Other photos that were allegedly taken at the Casa Sur hotel are all blurred and photoshopped!!
Brilliant live Harsh with Brian, I noted , that Roger has hidden from Liams doctors, Liam full health issues. And got rid of the body guard. ( very iffy) I also think Roger is broke and is suing Geoff to get money for himself. All lies about giving it to bear Liams son. Roger was trying to send Liam mad maybe so he could get money off Liam, just my opinion, I think Roger was in on Liams murder. Kate can’t speak out until the courts open in Argentina. Roger as done this before Kates statement , maybe to silence her as she will be sued too. Just MO. I think Roger and hotel have murdered him. For greed. Brian is right, we won’t let it go until Roger is in jail for murder. Justice for Liam a trusting soul, Bless you Liam, RIP😢
Roger’s family are multi billionaires . When you are that wealthy you have political connections. I read that Roger’s family have political connections in Argentina and the US. It’s also not be chance that Roger was born in the US . My motto is ‘when money talks , justice walks’ .
@ so wrong, if so why was he after Liam money. ??? If very rich, maybe like Brian H says, the music industry are in on it too, So very evil if this be the case,
That's why I'm going keep saying that Roger did this to Liam Payne and there's a letter that Harsh read there's proof that the bodyguard had good intentions to Liam Payne
Go back to my post Harsh ages ago when I said anyone related to LIam will benefit including ex's.... bingo!!! WHAT A DISGRACE TO ALL INVOLVED... NO ONE WILL TELL ME THIS WAS NOT PLANNED - MAKING MY BLOOD BOIL...
I don't understand how the witness in a nearby room alludes to hearing this bloodcurdling scream coming from Liam's room and excessive banging and shouting/coming and going to his room in the time between the Roger leaving him and the 'fall.' Clearly he got beaten or something suss was going down so why did noone go to his aid? If I was in the room nearby I would have gone to check all is OK or at least called down to reception to report all that!! not that the hotel would have done anything! All stinks!
@yvieneale7930 Yeah. The commotion from Liam's room stemmed probably from ... that he was beaten or he fought for life, while shouting, and asking for help, trying to evade from the criminals, but there were 2, or 4 men who were there ... Those were probably the ones who smashed his laptop to destroy valuable information, and pushed his head on the TV, etc , but nobody can prove those incidents, unless somebody would eventually come out in the open and testify in Court.
I think Roger besides wanting to destroy Liam was also extremely envious of him. Because Liam was everything that Roger isn’t, being so talented, handsome, kind, funny, charismatic,loved by many… In Kandis Starr channelling on his attack when they were beating him words came out “ not his pretty face”- meaning don’t hit him in the face so there won’t be suspicion of the beating. And I bet these words would come from Roger!!
I agree with Harvey about Kate, she comes over as so superficial, all about looks and clothes and showing off. But the most telling thing is she left him when he needed her most. I am so confused now about what to believe happened to Liam, we cannot ignore his mental health and drugs struggles, clearly he was being used by vultures! I feel so sad for Liam’s family.!
And why didn't she immediately fly to Argentina when she heard of his death ? If you love someone you would have flown there to find out what happened. She already knew
@ Yes, any person would be want to be there asap! Absolutely she knew, I believe she left Argentina BECAUSE Liam died. Something happened at Gonzales house with Roger, I believe he was stealing money from Liam or using his name to obtain some deal and Liam found out and there was a fight or it was deliberate murder. Kate has been silent throughout, she may have legal advice which tells her not to speak as it is an on-going case but she is for sure involved because her behaviour makes no sense.
Now I dislike Roger even more! Not only he is doing this to a man who lost his son, but he brings Bear's name into it, I mean, the kid lost his father, which is really inconsiderate of him! I understand the fact that he wants his name clear and public opinion shifting, but doesn't help!
@@mrsquixote5well that tarot reader was a scam.... because in this case Liam's Bodyguard was looking out for him trying to stop him from drinking and taking drugs.
When was Joni Proni liam bodyguard he is Albania and said in a article and interview if I was still there Liam would not be dead and was a victim of the music industry if I was still with him we have not heard his name before I don’t think? I put a link below. I saw this month ago as my husband is Albanian and translated some of it for me when he was talking to the interviewer.
Brian,Harsh.❤ liam was absolutely in a good place as we all seen,earlier in the day when he shared with all his fans she was eating breakfast at around lunchtime,he did seem to be looking around, & out of the window 😢😢 like he was expecting something bad was going to happen that dreadful day 😢😢then a bit later he was very happily letting his fans take photos 😊😊whom he really loved his fans ❤ so please God don't give up on poor liam 😢to get justice for him 😢😢
That girl Katie has the mind of a teenager not mature not real career just sponging of a man she was therefore a paid for employee then. They said on someone’s site she was a call girl I read. All this posing dancing showing off there is something wrong with people who do this social media it won’t last your looks will fade and you will get very old one day but the mentality of these types of people is very immature for 25 year old
The reasons people distrust Roger and have doubted his him being a genuine and innocent person have nothing to do with Geoff, and everything to do with Roger himself and his behaviour as far as has become public knowledge. This now is the final straw, him suing will now lose him any respect he had left , it’s absolutely heartless to do this to Liams Dad!
Liam resigned from 4 companies on 16th October, Hampton Records Ltd, Hampton Publishing Ltd, Hampton Music Limited and Long Play Touring LLP, Alan McEvoy still Direcotor of last one. I also had a feeling that someone involved with polo was also at the Casasur but hasn't yet been identified.
Love you two on here - The Mighty Duo let rip - thank you!! sorry got the verbals today!!! I'm from E17 lol... like Brian!!! We need a weekly with you two - I'd pay a subscription cos you both talk sense and down to earth!!! :) :) You both remind me of steptoe and son.. so funny!!!❤ I don't see why you can't run vids to break down the inconsistencies in this document because there will be in our fight for not only Liam but now Geoff - what a disgrace!!!
Your guest addressing her being such a transparent immature materialistic fake “ slush bag “ was well overdue. I let out a cheers in the air in agreement. Also I’ve always wondered if a bodyguard wasn’t possibly having an affair with Kate .
Nobody saw him between 12-16 where was he? First we heard he was ordering whisky at 15th apparently but we didn't see him just body double ctv and the only real photo we have of him is when he looked unalived on the sofa
It was said that Liam fired the bodyguard as the man was trying hard to avoid Liam to drink and maybe do d*rugs, even locking him in a room, from which he escaped, at his mansion in Florida. That was what I read in the first period after Liam's death
@@v.albornoz6181 well that was one terrible mistake Liam made by firing his Bodyguard....the man was looking out for him he did wrong by firing him.....this whole thing is just crazy 🤦🏻
Yes I think this may be a likely scenario. I feel if it was truly planned, it was a bit of a mess hence why all these questions now. So I think potentially the same.
I guess this is the time for Liam's family to start speaking out his mother, Sisters, Cheryl and Kate. They all need to break their silence come and help Geoff fight for Justice. Because it looks like evil Roger Nores is now coming after the family imagine sueing Geoff and even bringing Liam's son into this was low of him. Am surprised Cheryl hasn't said anything she should put him in his place like how dare Roger drag her son Bear into this. I guess this was the reason why Liam's family didn't invite him to Liam's funeral they knew he was a shady human being.
Hi Harsh, it came out after Liam tragically died, that Liam was having a episode in wellington and the body guard locked Liam into his bedroom to keep him safe and Liam got a hose pipe or something and climbed down the balcony and then Liam immediately sacked the bodyguard. ❤
The issue with this narrative is that there were no balconies at that estate. So there was no place for liam to climb down. One of my moods on X found aerial photos of the estate, and there are no balconies. There is a facade in front of a window that makes it look like there is a balcony, but there is no balcony floor. Hence, I think that was a false narrative.
I remember Liam posting the video of him saying they told me that I had to leave my room and go down by the pool or something similar- he clearly said send help
What a absolutely horrendous person he is, as if Geoff hasn't been through enough lost his only son, putting all his energy into fighting for justice for him and now he has to deal with this.
Yes it's so sad , disrespectful and just plain disgusting
Exactly!! And it proves that roger is a wrongful character
If Liam was here he be so angry
But again Liam would be here if Liam was not around that roger
Remember everyone looks good and with it before they relapse. That’s why it’s called relapse
Suing his Father is an absolute disgrace
lowest of the low
Definitely 💯 agree 👍
Roger is sick in the head to even think about suing Geoff. How cruel can one be. Absolutely vile human.
Roger, you will get your Karma
Poor Geoff, hasn't he suffered enough with all of this?
So glad he wasn’t at the funeral!
@@kazzawright8158 Geoff is the best. This poor man is going through torture along with the family.
It’s absolutely evil 👿 watching Nores is doing .
Why would Liam waive his HIPPA rights to let the doctors discuss his medical care with Roger if Roger wasn’t part of his team if he was just a “friend” the drs wouldn’t have had permission to send him emails on Liam’s care or to discuss medications or anything else with Roger if Liam himself hadn’t given that permission…I don’t know a lot about the law but I do know about HIPPA in the medical field and they can’t just discuss care with just anyone Liam would’ve had to give permission for his treatment ( care) to be to be discussed with Roger
Exactly
I don't believe Liam waived any HIPAA rights I believe these psychiatrists are getting paid to talk
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about Liam
That’s right
Roger trying to sue Geoff seems to be a threat to others to not speak out.
What...
Others like who
Please explain
@nycpark5088 have you been following this story? Welcome.
He’s trying to quiet everyone , but thankfully Harsh and Brian continue with the facts the truth and continue fighting for Liam rip and all his family . Nobody is going to believe a word Nores says . He’s probably broke now that Liam is gone 💔
Suing Geoff and then acting like he cares about Bear? Rodger is trying to buy out his freedom. That little boy needs his dad not money from a guy who helped take him. If this lawsuit is in Fla like I said Geoff will win this and can probably mention everything else. Liam please give your dad strength and continue protect your baby 🙏🤍
The bodyguard and Kate seriously need to be questioned..
Entirely agree with you x
Both will keep their mouth’s shut .
Yes I agree. I feel like they're hiding something
But in Argentina Liam had no bodyguard with him
It was all planned. Harsh/Brian H.
I will say it again: my gut feeling is that Liam was killed in the Hyatt hotel, where we saw him happily signing autographs with his fans. Kate went home knowing he was about to be unalived; that's why she took his money and cards-to use them quickly before the cards could be stopped! After he was unalived at the Hyatt hotel, he was then taken to the sh*t hole Casa Sur Palermo, his head placed on that umbrella stand, still wearing the same clothes remember ?The Casa Sur Palermo was in on it. They got Brett, who would never normally go to such a low-life hotel, to tell the lies of what he had seen! (Even though he changed his story three times.) I think the hotel got paid off; Brett got paid off; Roger got paid off; Kate got paid off; and Brian Paise got paid off! The so-called ladies of the night got Liam's Rolex watch! TMZ got paid off too! As for the suing of Liam's father, it’s all about deflecting what really happened-to try and stop the media insults against Roger! Simon Cowell was also in on it; the crying on Geoff's shoulder at the funeral was all fake! Liam knew something, and I believe he was about to tell the world! So his music company sacked him, knowing about the death clause. It was a win-win for everyone-the reason Liam was taken dead to that hotel, or was murdered inside the hotel, wearing the same clothes from the Hyatt hotel, was because the Hyatt hotel was a good five-star hotel and would never have anything to do with dodgy stuff!
I also believe Maya and her mum and dad were involved, and it was her father, the lawyer, who organized for Roger to sue Liam's poor grieving father! It's a ring of silence now! I hope and pray that Liam's family can get justice-I really do-but with so many in on it, it's going to be very difficult to prove! And now this suing business to deflect; we are all so very angry.
Thank you, Harsh and Brian, so much for trying to get justice for Liam and his family. ❤😢
Geoff needs to sue TMZ, the hotel and Roger
@@CC-ub8uk well said. But it needs to go to a full blown murder case.
Roger supplied drugs to Liam and drink( that’s neglect ) proof in video and text messages from Liam to Roger.
As Brian H says , RN may get away with it, Brian P and the other hotel worker that got drugs for Liam will serve time.
They did wrong but Roger got and paid for drugs too for Liam. Neglected him, but the first charge as been dropped against RN( abandonment before death) 5-15 years jail sentence. To Manslaughter 1-5 years, As Brian H states he won’t serve the full time, maybe 6- 8 months if that, such a corrupt country.
We want justice first Liam.
1000s of fans worldwide want to see Justice done, god bless Geoff and Karen , his sisters, And Bear.
Let’s hope the book is fully thrown at RN for Liams murder, scam bag.
@@CC-ub8uk well said,
I agree
Me too deffo😢 😢 @sherri5470
You're on it 😮😮 Brian 😢😢 you've been through all this shit before 😢you know exactly what they're capable of them money hungry scumbags 😢😢 thanks Brian lad & of course harsh ❤❤
Between the letters/emails from the psychologist & the Hotel, both of them lead us to believe that Dodgy Roger was indeed in charge of Liam’s welfare.
He calls himself Liam’s manager to the hotel & Lula is the assistant.
So he’s pushed everyone out & put everyone who is appointed by Roger in the circle to look after Liam.
He can’t get around those emails & I believe that’s the evidence the judge used to charge him.
This really looks worse for Dodgy Roger in my opinion.
He is absolutely disgusting for doing this!
A manager and carer when it suited him . Poor Liam will he ever get to rest in peace 😢
I agree with Brian , Kate gives me a bad vibe too !
Me too
True, I don't believe on her!
And until this started I never knew anything about Kate. Since starting to review videos etc, I agree with Brian that there was something between Roger and Kate, I've sensed that from the beginning.
She is involved!!
@@wildheartxxx135 I think so too
I am a nurse, and on No circumstances can you send medical details, or medication history to anyone, other then the patient, or the named carer who has written permission to do so!
It's patient confidentiality.
True
“The bird with the see though leg “😂😂 cracks me up every time he says it. Love Bryan and his rants. Love it
And the claw hand 😂
@ 😂🤣😂 yeah and that 🤣🙌
*WE CANNOT STAND ROHELLIO KEEP UP. THE PRESSURE* 🙏🏽🎯👍🏽
Hi Again Dear SandraJSalim🤗💛(I 'saw' You on HARSH'S 'Live' which happened earlier👍)
@@helena20000hey 🤗
Same 😢😢 i hate that man 😢 despise him 💯 he definitely knows a lot more 😢😢 than he's letting on 😮😮 for sure 😮 in my opinion 🤔 anyway 😢😢😢
@HARSH REALITY Just be careful you don’t get sued by Roger’s legal team. A woman said on Facebook that she believed that Madeline McCann was not missing and the McCanns had something to do with Madeline’s ‘disappearance’ . She stated that she beloved Madeline was de@d. The McCannes successfully sued the woman . The woman lost her house and had to sell her possessions . She was distraught. It had the desired effect of shutting people up. It’s only years later that people stated what they really believed about Madeline’s parents involvement .
Also Harsh , It’s a good idea to say ‘I believe ‘ . If you believe something in English law , then that’s your personal perception and view on things and is allowed under English law . Also the word ‘allegedly ‘ is good to use , rather than to say ‘It appears ‘ I hope you don’t mind me suggesting this .🙂
Definitely hes just trying to change the perspective and improve his reputation but that's all going spiral anyhow
Right Brian!!! She definitely is not grieving
Cierto a esa chica no se le a visto ni un poquito de luto x Liam es muy cruel la vida es injusta como hay personas tan frías totalmente
Kate is involved!! She is the part of that setup!!
kate is involved in this
Makes me wonder if Kate was in on a plan with the weasel, in public they make it look like they hate each other, any money the weasel makes, Kate gets a portion when the deal is done?
Rogers to do list: Get rid of the Doctor ✅️ Get rid of the Body Guard ✅️ Get rid of the Record Label ✅️ Get rid of the Accountant ✅️ Get rid of the Girlfriend ✅️
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ROGER NEEDS TAKING DOWN!!!!!!!
Exactly, I totally agree with you!!
Ever see the Jennifer Garner movie Peppermint? Think it’s high time.
It all proved that Roger was isolating Liam and contradicting things Roger has said in the tmz interview, plus texts between the hotel and Roger. What sort of slimeball sues the grieving father of his "friend"
I'm with you Brian. I don't like Kate either. After watching her for the past 2 years, she was never there for Liam. Always about herself. Very immature
Totally agree. She was always out for herself
Ooir Geoff, not only losing a child under such horrible circumstances only to then be sued it's enough to send someone over the edge! He feels no shame doing that to Liams dad let the man greive in peace. Thank you Harsh and Brian for having these discussions to enlighten us all here ❤ xoxo
Well Done Yet Again To: Our Dear HARSH & Our Dear Brian Harvey👍👏💯%💪🌟(& 1st 'Here'👍)
Take care, Brian Harvey. You and harsh are the best. 👍
OH MY GOD! The body guard’s revelations! That shows with no doubt Nores was engineering Liam’s demise! What an absolute scummy wicked POS! And it has the gall to sue Geoff Payne!!!!! And it wants a JURY trail! So Geoff will have to be in the USA away from home and family, he will put him through that when the man is grieving his son! How can any court or jury find in Nores favour?! I pray it is in the US and not an Argentinan court😮
Is the Florida courts one of the states that would allow a TV trial? Like the likes of what happened with Depp and Heard? Definitely wouldn’t want that at all but wonder if Roger would like that type of attention.
I have been side eyeing a certain person that went to Liam’s funeral. He also appeared on a podcast where his only regret was not keeping the 1D name. Nothing happens without the upper people giving them the ok. Just like Diddy winning his lawsuit against a certain company, then all his vile antics gets exposed. This is just my opinion and not based in fact.
Justice 4 Liam 🕊️
Yes I too noticed that certain person too. Sickening to watch offer his condolences to Liam's parents and also no acknowledgement from 1D, And the podcast his one regret not owning the name. Wouldn't be surprised if he arranged NH concert to coincide with Liam being sent to Argentina about his record deal. IMO
@ I totally agree
We'll done Harsh & Brian 🫶
Kate would've been so irritating to have around all the time
Just like to say Brian is looking so much better,He's doing great ,
Problem a healthy Liam could not be manipulated
This could tip Geoff over the edge, imagine your son has just died and having to deal with all this on top of it...this is just awful 😞
Yeah Brian, that video 'give us the money' , look how Kate and Roger are looking at each other ! I immediately noticed that .
Yes, me too!
I also thought it was strange in that video how they go to say give me the money and Lula corrects Roger and Kate like 5 or 6 times to say it’s my money not the money
Why would he risk not getting his visa after you have been clean. He only needed a few days before he was to leave.
But by emailing Roger the doctor showed Roger was involved
Absolutely
LIAM WAS CONTROLLED BY ROGER!!!!!!!!!
Yes he was!!
i thought that Kate was supposed to be talking to the Argentinian police!what happened to that????
@@christinajollands7767 the courts are closed in Argentina until the end of January,
Just hope she speaks out.
It’s funny that Roger as thrown her under the bus before she has been interviewed,
She should speak out, just hope she does.
Yes something happened at Gonzales, it makes the most sense. Casa sur was the stage to explain his death. 100% Roger was doing something dodgy with Liam’s money! And this proves he was pushing to take over Liam’s finances, I suspect Roger was planning on using Liams money for a dodgy deal and Liam found out. There could have been a fight that got out of control, when Roger rang Geoff to tell him Liam died he said ‘There was an accident, or there has been an accident’ yeah an accidental death caused by Roger!
Roger is trying to intimidate Geoff Ala he is proving is that he is guilty .
Good morning. Missed the live - watching now. Caught your live last night - this is horrific for the family
It sounds like they were trying to put him in a conservator ship.
Totally agree!
They were!!
How low can you go Roger? Oh, you just went there! BIG mistake. Justice for Liam and his family we wont forget or forgive. One way or another the truth will come out.
Loved the live this morning you and Brian really are the dream team could watch lives with you both all day 😂
Thank you 🙏
Too right, EXACTLY ⭐
@@REALHARSH don’t worry about your lives being too long, you , Brian H and Rabbit are getting to the bottom of these seedy goings on , RN needs to go down for what we now know. Justice for Liam , I feel so sorry for Geoff and Liams family , as if they are not going through enough, Geoff should sue, RN, TMZ. Hotel . That may fuck Roger up . 🙃
Absolutely love Brian ❤ Thank you, Harsh and Brian! ❤❤
What is Rogers history as far as court appearances because apparently he's suing his brother about something at the moment ?
You took the words out of my mouth, you've got the greiving of 35 grand a month off to a tee Brian.
Right that's all she's grieving
Harsh and Brian I have so much respect for you guys ❤ everyone is so grateful to you 2 keeping up the pressure on these murders- we will keep at this until the truth finally somewhere along the lines comes out - we all need to keep helping and especially for little Bear and Liam’s Dad and family and everyone who loves Liam - boycott Argentina in every way possible- 100% pre-meditated murder against Liam - Justice for Liam ❤️
Justiça ⚖ Para Liam ⚖ ⚖ ⚖
Wow that letter that states why the bodyguard was fired….WOW
Finally 1 thing that makes sense.
It was a pre planned murder!! A setup!!
I love Brian’s rants!! Especially on Plastic Barbie.
They took him off of being director ON THE DAMN DAY THEY UNALIVED HIM. I can’t believe that!!
Premeditated murder. Music Industry. Get him to Argentina. It is all connected. Thank you to Harsh and Brian. Makes sense and we all see it. My God.
@REALHARSH
In 2017, Macri appointed Laura Bruniard as the judge of the National Court in Criminal/ Correctional Law.
Laura Bruniard is obviously appreciative of Macri, and Macri is friends with Roger... essentially, Judge Bruniard is a little too close and associated with someone who did took part in Liam's murder and should be punished.
They are all paid off, all pre planned even before Liam arrived to Argentina!!
Roger did not want Geoff to be told anything from the bodyguard
I agree Brian that Gonzo and Brian are the ones that were steering Liam to the business side Gonzo made sure to say in an interview that he couldn't leave America at thet time. I don't think Niall would ever be involved with anything to harm Liam. Thats not to say the record company's weren't involved.
It was well publicised that Liam was at Niall’s concert via social media , yet no other trips to places were . I believe that it was a ruse used by Liam that he was there especially to support Niall. Also , Liam could have flown over to Argentina and stayed for a day or two and then flown back to the UK . He didn’t need to stay in Argentina for 2 weeks just to see Niall in concert . I believe that Liam was in Argentina for another reason .
I noticed that when Kate left and was showing off her ticket which actually documents -1 Direction Business class!! Remember also that there were NO photos of Liam with any fans outside the casa Sur Palermo hotel
Only one fan called Diana said she spoke with him at that hotel! But strangely when she done that video about talking to him, I recognised her as a fan at the Hyatt hotel! Other photos that were allegedly taken at the Casa Sur hotel are all blurred and photoshopped!!
Brilliant live Harsh with Brian,
I noted , that Roger has hidden from Liams doctors, Liam full health issues. And got rid of the body guard. ( very iffy)
I also think Roger is broke and is suing Geoff to get money for himself. All lies about giving it to bear Liams son.
Roger was trying to send Liam mad maybe so he could get money off Liam, just my opinion, I think Roger was in on Liams murder.
Kate can’t speak out until the courts open in Argentina.
Roger as done this before Kates statement , maybe to silence her as she will be sued too. Just MO.
I think Roger and hotel have murdered him. For greed.
Brian is right, we won’t let it go until Roger is in jail for murder. Justice for Liam a trusting soul,
Bless you Liam, RIP😢
This makes sense about Kate and the courts being closed
Roger’s family are multi billionaires . When you are that wealthy you have political connections. I read that Roger’s family have political connections in Argentina and the US. It’s also not be chance that Roger was born in the US . My motto is ‘when money talks , justice walks’ .
@ so wrong, if so why was he after Liam money. ??? If very rich, maybe like Brian H says, the music industry are in on it too,
So very evil if this be the case,
That's why I'm going keep saying that Roger did this to Liam Payne and there's a letter that Harsh read there's proof that the bodyguard had good intentions to Liam Payne
Go back to my post Harsh ages ago when I said anyone related to LIam will benefit including ex's.... bingo!!! WHAT A DISGRACE TO ALL INVOLVED... NO ONE WILL TELL ME THIS WAS NOT PLANNED - MAKING MY BLOOD BOIL...
Hy Harsh and Brian.This was great Live.Thank you for everything you do for Liam.Greetings from Germany 🙂🍀
I found out today Gonz is paying all of Rogers legal costs..Why?..What has suing Liam Payne got to do with Gonz?..Very fishy.
Liam and Kate stayed at Gonzales place .. before the hotel
This fn lawsuit will be dismissed. Roger knows that Geoff is unwrapping Roger's wrong doings
I don't understand how the witness in a nearby room alludes to hearing this bloodcurdling scream coming from Liam's room and excessive banging and shouting/coming and going to his room in the time between the Roger leaving him and the 'fall.' Clearly he got beaten or something suss was going down so why did noone go to his aid? If I was in the room nearby I would have gone to check all is OK or at least called down to reception to report all that!! not that the hotel would have done anything! All stinks!
Doug Jones that's his name he was the one across from Liam's room and did a interview
Justiça ⚖ Para Liam Payne 😢😢😢😢
@@NovapagePage-or5hz and yet like many other on site 'witnesses' has since vanished... bizarre!
@yvieneale7930
Yeah. The commotion from Liam's room stemmed probably from ... that he was beaten or he fought for life, while shouting, and asking for help, trying to evade from the criminals, but there were 2, or 4 men who were there ...
Those were probably the ones who smashed his laptop to destroy valuable information, and pushed his head on the TV, etc , but nobody can prove those incidents, unless somebody would eventually come out in the open and testify in Court.
Maybe Roger didn't like that the bodyguard was in touch with Geoff.
That's my thoughts
Roger wanted to totally isolate Liam to destroy him and set him up!!
Liam was lured to Argentina to be unalived there!! It was all pre planned!!!
I think Roger besides wanting to destroy Liam was also extremely envious of him. Because Liam was everything that Roger isn’t, being so talented, handsome, kind, funny, charismatic,loved by many… In Kandis Starr channelling on his attack when they were beating him words came out “ not his pretty face”- meaning don’t hit him in the face so there won’t be suspicion of the beating. And I bet these words would come from Roger!!
I know he was beaten! 💔😥
I agree with Harvey about Kate, she comes over as so superficial, all about looks and clothes and showing off. But the most telling thing is she left him when he needed her most. I am so confused now about what to believe happened to Liam, we cannot ignore his mental health and drugs struggles, clearly he was being used by vultures! I feel so sad for Liam’s family.!
I agree. She never loved Liam. All her actions were fake towards him
Kate elutazásával kapcsolatban nekem a süllyedő hajóról való menekülés jut eszembe... 😱
😢😢😢😢
And why didn't she immediately fly to Argentina when she heard of his death ? If you love someone you would have flown there to find out what happened. She already knew
@ Yes, any person would be want to be there asap! Absolutely she knew, I believe she left Argentina BECAUSE Liam died. Something happened at Gonzales house with Roger, I believe he was stealing money from Liam or using his name to obtain some deal and Liam found out and there was a fight or it was deliberate murder. Kate has been silent throughout, she may have legal advice which tells her not to speak as it is an on-going case but she is for sure involved because her behaviour makes no sense.
Roger has slandered liams good name from the start.
Now I dislike Roger even more! Not only he is doing this to a man who lost his son, but he brings Bear's name into it, I mean, the kid lost his father, which is really inconsiderate of him! I understand the fact that he wants his name clear and public opinion shifting, but doesn't help!
Love you two together. How low can Roger go this is discusting.
Justice for Liam and his family 😢
Yes something happened at Gonzales, it makes the most sense. Casa sur was the stage to explain his death.
Someone mentioned Gonz is basically untouchable so it definitely makes sense Liam was unalived there
Security guards sacking really suspicious
A tarot reader I watch has read that Liam's personal security is part of the team and has a direct hand in the foul play... allegedly
@@mrsquixote5well that tarot reader was a scam.... because in this case Liam's Bodyguard was looking out for him trying to stop him from drinking and taking drugs.
@@UcheOnuorah-iy7ls I'm not sure exactly which security was being talked about in the tarot. Liam had changed his security a lot between 2023-2024
When was Joni Proni liam bodyguard he is Albania and said in a article and interview if I was still there Liam would not be dead and was a victim of the music industry if I was still with him we have not heard his name before I don’t think? I put a link below. I saw this month ago as my husband is Albanian and translated some of it for me when he was talking to the interviewer.
If Roger wasn’t responsible for Liam why did he keep harping on about the many times he checked on Liam on that last day?
Do they think we’re bloody stupid, Nores was there 3 times checking on Liam . Just leave Geoff alone , there going through enough 😢
Brian,Harsh.❤ liam was absolutely in a good place as we all seen,earlier in the day when he shared with all his fans she was eating breakfast at around lunchtime,he did seem to be looking around, & out of the window 😢😢 like he was expecting something bad was going to happen that dreadful day 😢😢then a bit later he was very happily letting his fans take photos 😊😊whom he really loved his fans ❤ so please God don't give up on poor liam 😢to get justice for him 😢😢
Justiça ⚖ Para Liam Payne 💔💔😭😭🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
25 injuries because Liam was beaten to death. Who did Rog get to harm our beloved Liam?
That girl Katie has the mind of a teenager not mature not real career just sponging of a man she was therefore a paid for employee then. They said on someone’s site she was a call girl I read. All this posing dancing showing off there is something wrong with people who do this social media it won’t last your looks will fade and you will get very old one day but the mentality of these types of people is very immature for 25 year old
Agree
Agree 👍
Looks like the bodyguard did try to look after Liam to even go to check out this place he must have had his doubts about Roger
The reasons people distrust Roger and have doubted his him being a genuine and innocent person have nothing to do with Geoff, and everything to do with Roger himself and his behaviour as far as has become public knowledge. This now is the final straw, him suing will now lose him any respect he had left , it’s absolutely heartless to do this to Liams Dad!
So enjoy listening to you 2 together
I missed the live and watching this video now. Harsh and Brian are always speaking the truth and making sense about this case! I love them together ❤
Same here!
It’s easy to prove someone just has to get body guards statement
Wicked live guys,this is going to cause mayhem with all of liams fans far & wide...
I think it's absolutely disgusting what he is doing.. unbelievable
Good work pieces are coming together for sure great video harsh n Brian
Liam resigned from 4 companies on 16th October, Hampton Records Ltd, Hampton Publishing Ltd, Hampton Music Limited and Long Play Touring LLP, Alan McEvoy still Direcotor of last one. I also had a feeling that someone involved with polo was also at the Casasur but hasn't yet been identified.
Love you two on here - The Mighty Duo let rip - thank you!! sorry got the verbals today!!! I'm from E17 lol... like Brian!!! We need a weekly with you two - I'd pay a subscription cos you both talk sense and down to earth!!! :) :) You both remind me of steptoe and son.. so funny!!!❤ I don't see why you can't run vids to break down the inconsistencies in this document because there will be in our fight for not only Liam but now Geoff - what a disgrace!!!
Liam would be turning in his grave at this 😢
😥💔
roger will say anything to get out of trouble
Your guest addressing her being such a transparent immature materialistic fake “ slush bag “ was well overdue. I let out a cheers in the air in agreement. Also I’ve always wondered if a bodyguard wasn’t possibly having an affair with Kate .
I read somewhere aswell that Liams room was originally on the 1st floor and Roger moved him to the 3rd floor.
Nobody saw him between 12-16 where was he? First we heard he was ordering whisky at 15th apparently but we didn't see him just body double ctv and the only real photo we have of him is when he looked unalived on the sofa
Kidnap surely
I think he was killed earlier that’s why not seen ie I think it was 14th October, then they staged everything!!
I hope the bodyguard is able to speak out on Geoff’s behalf and shed some light 🔦
We need the ex. Body guard to speak up and tell why he was told to go let go off or what happened did he leave on his own volition
Summons him to court
Love Brian Harvey... So straight up!!
Fantastic live thankyou both so much ❤😊
Our pleasure!
What Dr. would send personal medical information to a 3rd party, say they weren't comfortable treating him nor "had the time"???
Why hasn't the former bodyguard not come forward to say who fired him,and why❤
It was said that Liam fired the bodyguard as the man was trying hard to avoid Liam to drink and maybe do d*rugs, even locking him in a room, from which he escaped, at his mansion in Florida. That was what I read in the first period after Liam's death
@@v.albornoz6181 well that was one terrible mistake Liam made by firing his Bodyguard....the man was looking out for him he did wrong by firing him.....this whole thing is just crazy 🤦🏻
But, why did the body guard not push against that and insist staying on to protect Liam? Does not sit right to me.
Yes Brian i was saying that before. Kate and Roger always looking at each other big smiles, saw it in another video to that i sent to Harsh
So many people are benefiting off of him. Follow the money
Or was Liam refusing to give Roger that power and Roger attacked him .
Yes I think this may be a likely scenario. I feel if it was truly planned, it was a bit of a mess hence why all these questions now. So I think potentially the same.
I guess this is the time for Liam's family to start speaking out his mother, Sisters, Cheryl and Kate. They all need to break their silence come and help Geoff fight for Justice.
Because it looks like evil Roger Nores is now coming after the family imagine sueing Geoff and even bringing Liam's son into this was low of him. Am surprised Cheryl hasn't said anything she should put him in his place like how dare Roger drag her son Bear into this.
I guess this was the reason why Liam's family didn't invite him to Liam's funeral they knew he was a shady human being.
Another great live from both of you. Cmon folks smash the like button! 😊
Thank you 🙏
If Roger was such a good friend wouldn't he want the bodyguard about to take pressure off himself.
Hi Harsh, it came out after Liam tragically died, that Liam was having a episode in wellington and the body guard locked Liam into his bedroom to keep him safe and Liam got a hose pipe or something and climbed down the balcony and then Liam immediately sacked the bodyguard. ❤
The issue with this narrative is that there were no balconies at that estate. So there was no place for liam to climb down. One of my moods on X found aerial photos of the estate, and there are no balconies. There is a facade in front of a window that makes it look like there is a balcony, but there is no balcony floor. Hence, I think that was a false narrative.
It was just something I read in the papers shortly after Liam passed and re checked it tonight. Maybe he just climbed down from the window.
I agree with Brian
I can’t never understand the audacity of this man.. the suing of a grieving family! The audacity. Ok nuff said.
What i cannot get over is the 1D plane ticket surely you would have to book well in advance to get it.
Yes I've always thought that. It was her excuse to show it I reckon.
It was Liam's One Direction to Argentina 💔 and Kate had on plane 1D place - sounds creepy as hell to me
I remember Liam posting the video of him saying they told me that I had to leave my room and go down by the pool or something similar- he clearly said send help