I think Angela deserves the S tier. She has so much utility and damage. She can block non contact, bypass EVERY damaging effect in the game, get nullify immunity, has access to Armor break, Armor up, fury, regen etc. She's great in battlegrounds, incursions, war(can take biohazard nodes with sig ability), questing.
Let’s go baby finally some love for Luke. If you start using him you’re gonna realize he is only limited by your imagination. He can take so many skill defenders (got a 50 second kill on kingpin lmao), Serpent, and literally every mystic with ease. Enjoy bro, hope you rank him up!
Let's say that his rework made him literally the unstoppable Juggernaut. Check some video of a fight with him they are impressive to watch.@@eeeee2215
Tier list!! Everyone loves the tier list videos. That's a great way to think about it. You didn't say "oh they are stupid for not using my list, you just said "ok, what can I do to make my list better". That is a winning mindset. Love the video my man.
Yo, don't worry about which tier list kabam uses (obviously Vegas) that is due to his community involvement and other top players input. Yours is unique because it's based on YOUR experience and opinion. You have a large following because people respect your opinion. Don't change your tier list style. We already have a community driven one. People are here for YOUR opinion and views and that's what makes this unique. Also.... I need to borrow your dog. Got a crystal opening coming up
Superior Iron Man is insane one place where I liked to play him is Incursions because with buff cornucopia and with any other node that gives him buffs he'll end 900k to 1 million health pulls in one sp2
CMM, Ultron and Falcon all deserve promotions in my opinion. You even love CMM. The group she's in your list when it comes to her awakened ability is head and shoulders above them. She can tank specials and does a massive amount of damage, same for Ultron with HB and Falcon when locked on and counters so much. Ultron also power burns too and has so much utility with his damage, it's surreal how fast my ascended r5 finishes fights and what he can demolish in the process. Besides that, a hell of a great list and I do appreciate what you do for the community 💯
I rely more on your tier lists, Vegas are good, but I feel Kabam uses his because of the whole iluminati thing (I believe some kabam designers are there). Yours feel more personal based on your experience and made for normal players, you dont need a whole crew mixing his opinions in a tier list interfering with your judgment. No need to change anything
I saw a comment about White Tiger and i agree... i think she falls in the same category as Negasonic, she does her match ups super well and outspeeds some top champs in that behalve. Just like Negasonic she is made for the spesific skill/cosmic class shruggin off all the debuffs, stealing their healing and gaining insane power with fat specials. I also think that in the tech class I doom is massively underrated... Insane power control, fat special 2s, only downside to doom i see is no buff control, but not much more so A should be fair... Edit: typo
i think namor should get a promotion to at least a tier possibly even s tier. i view him very similar to titania because once you get lined up for the special 3 the fight is basically over and he has a lot of great utility as well, dmg reflect, healing, and purify counter which makes him really versatile and his damage scales so quickly especially as a 7 star with the furies
@@Riot-6969 disagree as long as you throw an sp3 right before imperious rex and then reach 30 after you can get a fat special 2 with the fury and if you need another special 2 you just heavy and throw it again. overall i would say it takes some skill but the payoff is great and pretty underrated
Hey Lags. You are a very mature young man. Seeing it as a growth opportunity. Anyone else think Shocker is a great 2 way? He’s kind of the tech Domino to me. Great on O. Then on D…almost random BS…and then you get KOed. Or lots of health gone. Prowler can bring the BS. And Red Skull. Tech has become sneaky great with 2 ways. FAM as a 6 star. I didn’t even mention Shuri. P2099 also two way. But shocker. Oh autoblock, punched in face (at least when I fight him). I just put mine on D, let my opponent deal. And he’s known for offense.
I’ve always used your tier list, but I’ll use it lot more after your updates. The dark background with the color-coded lettering is easier to read and looks fantastic. Thanks for your incisive analysis and the hard work you’ve done improving your list.
Not having doom on s+ is a travest. I mean come on he is the best power controller in the game. He is great on defense and good on offence too. He is not complicated(doom cycle is broken) and dosent need to be awakened. He has aged like fine wine. I think that warrants a position on s+
Moleman is easily S tier, many matchups you could make a case for S+ True strike Guaranteed crits Amazing bleeds Debuff shrug Can block unblockable Access to unstoppable and unblockable SP2
I was going to say the same. He is an absolute nuke. If it bleeds it's going to die very quickly. He is probably my most used 7* - easy to understand, easy to use, does big numbers. Gotta be promoted.
I just got 7* superior iron man and dude, he is an absolute god, im incredibly happy with him, he is only rank 1 and he is doing 40k basic attacks. Very very easy to use, a lot of damage, regen, he is also a tank He deserve an S tier, and probably an S+ tier, not joking
I want to say I was stuck thinking who to rank up and first person I thought to check is your tier list. Our game play and mindset are very similar so I highly agree with your opinion and truly appreciate the work you put into the tier list. Thank you.
I’d love to see nova get promoted to A tier. He can nuke plenty of meta relevant defenders like bullseye, photon, attuma, and fam. He’s also a 7* now so nova stocks are only on the rise. The max sig icon should also be added next to him.
AA is not in the S+ tier is a robbery. I know he’s only a 6* I get it, but he still shuts down an absolutely insane amount of nodes, champs, and fights. Doesn’t take much skill, no synergies needed, one dupe and he works. The DOT is still insane.
i agree its just very easy to stop him, poison/bleed immunites are the most common in all of mcoc because it was the first 2 immunties if AA had like Rupture and coldsnap to make a neruo he would be S+ haha or if he was just a 7*
In fairness to the tier list preference, Vega has a whole team working on his, while you're flying solo. For what it's worth I love both of your lists and follow them both closely
Lags without a Doubt id say your Tier List And Vegas Tier list are 2 of the best in Mcoc reason Vegas is so good is because like 10-12 ppl work on it 😅. But there both so well done and thought out.❤
Hey lags as a video idea you should do a video where you rank every of mcoc bc of the 10 year anniversary and you rank it by the champs that came out that year. So the best year would have the best collection of champs and so on
There is a reason for ghosts ban in AW. S+ for sure. One major reason she isn’t used as much is because we just have attackers which are easier to use, but a ghost used right can take like 95% of all fights.
Kabam uses Vega tier list which is made by the best players in the world also by DLL who works for Kabam lol. That means Kabam decide to nerf champions base on the best players in the world. Which is bad for average players like myself and specially for beginners.
@@grossekugeln well I don't care about Battlegrounds or War but anybody in Tier 1 Alliance War, or whatever is top Battlegrounds rankings are. Basically the top 1% of Valiant players.
@@grossekugeln is not about advice. Is it about skill perhaps I wasn't clear. I will give you a few examples. 1. If we base a champion on MSD skill then every champion would be broken then they will be nerf. 2. When the best players in the world were saying Ghost was/is broken Kabam on the forum said "when it comes to the best players in the world Ghost was performing great. But for average player she was performing average". 3. Another example is Hercules for the best players in the world he would be broken but for an average player like myself his not. So we would not have Hercules the way he is today if it was based on the best player in the world he would be nerf.
Hey, I’ve always had an idea for a tier list where each of the tiers are the rank they should be considered to be, rn it could be r3 tier, r2 tier and r1 and below. And when I new rank appears a new tier is added. This would allow for the natural reset of the tier list anytime a new rank comes out where the top gets reset and champs naturally get demoted over time if they aren’t relevant to take to the next rank. But as ranks become more accessible the tier would naturally grow to reflect the types of champions that players could expect to rank up. If you don’t like the idea of a “rolling list” what if the tiers were based on priority to rank up. But that isn’t far offf from what you’re doing now just a different perspective.
I'll be honest I do prefer that other tier list lol but in fairness to you Lags, that's a list made from alot of different peoples inputs. There is room in this game for many different tier list. Even tho I prefer the other. Yours is still incredible. There is more then enough room in this game for many different tier lists. Don't stop man
Hey Lags, you might want to freeze panes for the icon legend at the top so that when users scroll down the classes, we can still see the icons without having to memorise or scroll up again, hope this helps! The tier list is great
First of all, THANK YOU for doing this list. It's highly appreciated and helpful. I have one comment/disagreement. Moleman should be higher. I actually ranked him before NF. He clears so much content so easily. Shrugging debuffs just like Kingpin, but with the ability to have guaranteed crits, so it doesn't matter if the defender bleeds or not, he's still taking then out. This has nothing to do with his recent usage in SoS. He's just a beast and can finish fights faster than some of the Skill champs listed above him easily. Parry, heavy. Parry, heavy...go into frenzy mode and the fight is over.
Hey man, I think you’re sleeping on iron heart. I use her in AW for pretty much every mutant defender. She has so much utility and pretty good damage and burst with the multiple debuffs + sp2. Check out some videos of her, she can seriously take so many matchups because of her utility and easy access to incinerate OR rupture. You’ll always be able to do damage unless they shrug. Anyways, enjoy the tier list as always and hope you have a great day!
Thank you for using the S-F tier rankings. I find the "wordy" tier names that much of the MCOC community uses to be very arbitrary and misleading. You can't accurately gauge the strength of a tier list if even the tier names are getting power crept ("god tier -> beyond god tier -> ultra mega beyond god tier, etc)
Regarding labelling of the tiers - it's really much of a muchness and I personally don't even notice. I felt that the "Old God" etc tiers were fine, but I will say that often when I'd share the ratings with others they'd laugh about the naming structure, and even debate the relative prowess of Titans vs Old Gods :)
I have followed your tier lists for years I am glad you are using S-F tier rankings it makes things a lot easier to understand. Also time to r6 enchantress for me :D
The stark spidey glaze is wild, also funny enough i remember ages ago during the maestro boss challenge u were the only one to use wolv x23 when everyone else took stark spidey
I recently took my 6⭐Superior Iron Man to R3. He's awakened at Sig Lvl 20 as well. Highest I got was 157K Damage with the Special 2. I think he deserves S tier for the insane amount of damage he can do. Plus, he can auto-block and trigger parry AND his heavy attacks give him a buff that allows him to parry non-contact attack.
OG Black Panther is still underrated. He's viable for a lot of stuff, especially at max sig. Have a r5 ascended one and he shreds endgame content. I'd say at least an A tier champ.
Don't forget mano. It's your opinion we respect. Not kabams. Don't feel bad about your list. Also, I went for your advice and got my first package in months. Pulled enchantress and duped beta ray. Pretty solid get! Cheers!! Also. Titan is awful rn
Professor X in B Tier is just criminal. He is one of the absolute best everest content champs and also kind of viable in bgs for evade counter. The damage after few specials is ridiculous
Well, your list is humbling. Apparently, my 7mil roster sucks! 😂 Oh well, I rank the champs I love to use. I appreciate your work on this list. Please keep up the good work
I wish Arcade could get a slight Damage boost to his dot damage and maybe a crit boost on specials hed be such a good duel threat.😊and possibly a defensive boost as well
Luke Cage: tank sp3 Exaustions Power drains champs like (serpent, hyperion) neuter (Sasquatch ,no wrath mode, no unstoppable) SP2 shuts down immortality (serpent, Hercules, immortal hulk
IMO Superior iron man where he is was fine, teenage warhead good where she is, Ghost S+ fashow, Galan wasn't on your list I'd go S on him most def, Moleman I 'd do S tier and that's about it. That was a nice tier list man really enjoyable video, and the changes are cool too. Personally I would prefer the S+ to be named something else since S is already one. Just feels like the S+ champs deserve a "cooler" category name lol
I think HB deserves S+, he has the damage, the debuffs if there are any nodes that require you to apply debuffs, he unblockable sp, he has one of or not the best power control of the tech class, he has regen, he has armors and the bulk. All of that I think he deserves S+
thank you for continuing to improve this. What do you think about adding a graphical representation (bar or pie chart) to show the number of champs in each tier and class? The point you mentioned about quantity and quality made me think this could be a nice ongoing view for us on how each class is progressing. Cheers!
The tier name change from mcoc slang to s-f tier is bittersweet. Its been the names of these tier lists for what feels like forever. It is foing to be much easier for new players to understand. But i think both should be implemented into both. Kinds like 'beyonder tier (s+)" or something along those lines. Just my 2 cents though. :)
Dude, you really needed to ask the chat if ghost deserves to be in a class above all others? Honestly it’s no doubt or question about it. You knew where she belonged. No matter what ghost still gonna do what she do and even if they don’t make her a 7*, she’s guaranteed to have a spot in this game same thing for quake. Ppl still using her as a 5* in war. How does that not make her GOATED in this tier list you have made. All in all it’s pretty fair but GHOST AND QUAKE you did dirty my dude. That needs to be corrected ASAP cause let’s be clear for any of you newbies, if you master ghost play style or quake play style your guaranteed to find a spot in high tier alliances given you have a respectable roster. In all honesty there should be a tier specifically for those two cause no one compares to them and their usability in the game.
Do yourself a huge favor and put silk into s+ immediately. She is top 3 science and it’s not even close. She has dominated every meta since bgs began. I am usually running 30 second fights. Even against onslaught. She deserves top tier IMO
@@Lagacy Always appreciate your input. Make sure to have a her paired with relic and string those hit combos together. BTW. I have spot at r3 as well. He is a better defender, but on O its not even close. Appreciate your input my man!!
Ghost should be s tier, shes broken in some situations, but she isnt that used that commonly in most bg metas or aw anymore. Also i think bullseye should be s+ tier bc of the huge impact hes had
Moondragon does not deserve B tier, she is so underrated. She does massive damage if you know what u are doing with her, and she does it fast. One of the better bullseye countres also
Guardian also deserves the s+ promotion. Just watch andy‘s r3 sig 200, he can nuke so much, against 6* you might not even have to throw sp1. on top the resistances, def deserves s+
Galan disappeared like ghost! He’s added now firmly in S-Tier!
Hypothetically, What Tier will you be placing Count Nefarious in, on the next one? Pulled the 7* so was curious.. Appreciate the list as always 😉
just like Patriot.
I might be crazy but I didn’t see Galan on this list
Yes, I was also wondering why he wasn't there?
Tbh i think everyone leaves out somebody broken or crap in every list lol.
About to comment this lol
me too
Another disappearance! gonna fix that he shouldd be in S tier
I think Angela deserves the S tier. She has so much utility and damage. She can block non contact, bypass EVERY damaging effect in the game, get nullify immunity, has access to Armor break, Armor up, fury, regen etc. She's great in battlegrounds, incursions, war(can take biohazard nodes with sig ability), questing.
Agreed for the multitude of reasons you have listed she is sooooo good
would you ascend Angela as a 6*?
@@TheReal_DeanD yup, she needs high sig
Galan has fallen off so bad lately that he even did fall off Lag's tier list😂
I think he needs the 7* treatment next
@@wideyeoman1018 accident!
Let’s go baby finally some love for Luke.
If you start using him you’re gonna realize he is only limited by your imagination. He can take so many skill defenders (got a 50 second kill on kingpin lmao), Serpent, and literally every mystic with ease.
Enjoy bro, hope you rank him up!
I’m still advocating for White Tiger to get a promotion. She can do some crazy stuff as shown by trappy and fin
Wigra mid
Bro I had left the game, WTF MADE JUGFERNAUT ABOVE DR. DOOM
Pipe down and enjoy the champ
Let's say that his rework made him literally the unstoppable Juggernaut. Check some video of a fight with him they are impressive to watch.@@eeeee2215
@@eeeee2215he got a big boy buff 💪🏼
Tier list!! Everyone loves the tier list videos. That's a great way to think about it. You didn't say "oh they are stupid for not using my list, you just said "ok, what can I do to make my list better". That is a winning mindset. Love the video my man.
As someone with a r5 ascended Ghost who uses her a lot, I'd say she deserves the S+ promotion.
Indeed. It's actually crazy how good she still is. She's my answer to the Hazard Shift nodes in AW.
Yo, don't worry about which tier list kabam uses (obviously Vegas) that is due to his community involvement and other top players input. Yours is unique because it's based on YOUR experience and opinion. You have a large following because people respect your opinion. Don't change your tier list style. We already have a community driven one. People are here for YOUR opinion and views and that's what makes this unique. Also.... I need to borrow your dog. Got a crystal opening coming up
thanks bro!
Superior Iron Man is insane one place where I liked to play him is Incursions because with buff cornucopia and with any other node that gives him buffs he'll end 900k to 1 million health pulls in one sp2
Very much needed improvement for the tierlist imo. Everything looks much cleaner and nicer this way.
CMM, Ultron and Falcon all deserve promotions in my opinion. You even love CMM. The group she's in your list when it comes to her awakened ability is head and shoulders above them. She can tank specials and does a massive amount of damage, same for Ultron with HB and Falcon when locked on and counters so much. Ultron also power burns too and has so much utility with his damage, it's surreal how fast my ascended r5 finishes fights and what he can demolish in the process. Besides that, a hell of a great list and I do appreciate what you do for the community 💯
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I rely more on your tier lists, Vegas are good, but I feel Kabam uses his because of the whole iluminati thing (I believe some kabam designers are there). Yours feel more personal based on your experience and made for normal players, you dont need a whole crew mixing his opinions in a tier list interfering with your judgment. No need to change anything
thanks my G
I saw a comment about White Tiger and i agree... i think she falls in the same category as Negasonic, she does her match ups super well and outspeeds some top champs in that behalve. Just like Negasonic she is made for the spesific skill/cosmic class shruggin off all the debuffs, stealing their healing and gaining insane power with fat specials. I also think that in the tech class I doom is massively underrated... Insane power control, fat special 2s, only downside to doom i see is no buff control, but not much more so A should be fair...
Edit: typo
omega sentinel should be S-Teir. She can counter miss, regen. poison and bleed cause her to heal. A lot of armor up buffs and an underrated defender.
i think namor should get a promotion to at least a tier possibly even s tier. i view him very similar to titania because once you get lined up for the special 3 the fight is basically over and he has a lot of great utility as well, dmg reflect, healing, and purify counter which makes him really versatile and his damage scales so quickly especially as a 7 star with the furies
his rotation is much harder and stressful to pull off than titania tho in my opinion
@@Riot-6969 disagree as long as you throw an sp3 right before imperious rex and then reach 30 after you can get a fat special 2 with the fury and if you need another special 2 you just heavy and throw it again. overall i would say it takes some skill but the payoff is great and pretty underrated
Lol. That’s still playing him wrong, you enter imperious Rex after 15 outrage stacks & 2 bars of power & fight done 🤫
@@H0LLYW00DHenn there’s a ton of ways to play him to be fair
I agree I have my 6 star maxed out and he puts in work.
Hey Lags. You are a very mature young man. Seeing it as a growth opportunity.
Anyone else think Shocker is a great 2 way? He’s kind of the tech Domino to me.
Great on O. Then on D…almost random BS…and then you get KOed. Or lots of health gone.
Prowler can bring the BS. And Red Skull. Tech has become sneaky great with 2 ways. FAM as a 6 star.
I didn’t even mention Shuri. P2099 also two way.
But shocker. Oh autoblock, punched in face (at least when I fight him). I just put mine on D, let my opponent deal.
And he’s known for offense.
I’ve always used your tier list, but I’ll use it lot more after your updates. The dark background with the color-coded lettering is easier to read and looks fantastic. Thanks for your incisive analysis and the hard work you’ve done improving your list.
Not having doom on s+ is a travest. I mean come on he is the best power controller in the game. He is great on defense and good on offence too. He is not complicated(doom cycle is broken) and dosent need to be awakened. He has aged like fine wine. I think that warrants a position on s+
Agreed
if doom was a 7* he would for sure but 6*? He dont cut it
Moleman is easily S tier, many matchups you could make a case for S+
True strike
Guaranteed crits
Amazing bleeds
Debuff shrug
Can block unblockable
Access to unstoppable and unblockable SP2
I was going to say the same. He is an absolute nuke. If it bleeds it's going to die very quickly. He is probably my most used 7* - easy to understand, easy to use, does big numbers. Gotta be promoted.
@@AlexWorrell yeah exactly. Easy to use is important and he's fun to play too
Galan missing?
Justice for the Duck! Howard can work really well in all forms content, from long form to questing to BG. Howard is the Duck for the job.
Punisher 2099 definitely deserves a promotion to A tier
For real, he is great for so many tricky fights, and his damage is actually incredible
Great tier list lags, i think i prefer the old tier names to s tier, a tier etc, bc it felt more unique, and more fun
I have been following your tier list since I started playing this game and I just reached paragon a week ago. thank you 🗣️🗣️
Good work!! 🎉
I just got 7* superior iron man and dude, he is an absolute god, im incredibly happy with him, he is only rank 1 and he is doing 40k basic attacks. Very very easy to use, a lot of damage, regen, he is also a tank
He deserve an S tier, and probably an S+ tier, not joking
I want to say I was stuck thinking who to rank up and first person I thought to check is your tier list. Our game play and mindset are very similar so I highly agree with your opinion and truly appreciate the work you put into the tier list. Thank you.
Punisher 2099 needs to be A tier at least, maybe even S tier
I’d love to see nova get promoted to A tier. He can nuke plenty of meta relevant defenders like bullseye, photon, attuma, and fam. He’s also a 7* now so nova stocks are only on the rise. The max sig icon should also be added next to him.
AA is not in the S+ tier is a robbery. I know he’s only a 6* I get it, but he still shuts down an absolutely insane amount of nodes, champs, and fights. Doesn’t take much skill, no synergies needed, one dupe and he works. The DOT is still insane.
i agree its just very easy to stop him, poison/bleed immunites are the most common in all of mcoc because it was the first 2 immunties if AA had like Rupture and coldsnap to make a neruo he would be S+ haha or if he was just a 7*
@@Lagacy definitely makes sense! Maybe we need a tier for champs that when they work, there’s isn’t anyone better. AA, Red Mags, Doom, etc..
@@sneill13 I promoted him anyway on the new one LOL you helped convince
really like the new simple format🙌🙌🙌
keep up the good content lags🕺
In fairness to the tier list preference, Vega has a whole team working on his, while you're flying solo. For what it's worth I love both of your lists and follow them both closely
Galan is not in the list, but I presume he would have at least be an S tier champ?
Yup
Love the letter changes for the tiers. Simple and straight to the point.
Lags without a Doubt id say your Tier List And Vegas Tier list are 2 of the best in Mcoc reason Vegas is so good is because like 10-12 ppl work on it 😅. But there both so well done and thought out.❤
Hey lags as a video idea you should do a video where you rank every of mcoc bc of the 10 year anniversary and you rank it by the champs that came out that year. So the best year would have the best collection of champs and so on
oooh i like that good idea bro!
There is a reason for ghosts ban in AW. S+ for sure. One major reason she isn’t used as much is because we just have attackers which are easier to use, but a ghost used right can take like 95% of all fights.
Yooo, I've been following you for quite sometime and I really enjoy your tierlists!
Kabam uses Vega tier list which is made by the best players in the world also by DLL who works for Kabam lol.
That means Kabam decide to nerf champions base on the best players in the world. Which is bad for average players like myself and specially for beginners.
I'm sorry, who is the best player in the world again?
Me@@grossekugeln
@@grossekugeln well I don't care about Battlegrounds or War but anybody in Tier 1 Alliance War, or whatever is top Battlegrounds rankings are. Basically the top 1% of Valiant players.
@@rinoxpfitness9084 why would you want advice from someone who's not one of the best at something?
@@grossekugeln is not about advice. Is it about skill perhaps I wasn't clear. I will give you a few examples.
1. If we base a champion on MSD skill then every champion would be broken then they will be nerf.
2. When the best players in the world were saying Ghost was/is broken Kabam on the forum said "when it comes to the best players in the world Ghost was performing great. But for average player she was performing average".
3. Another example is Hercules for the best players in the world he would be broken but for an average player like myself his not. So we would not have Hercules the way he is today if it was based on the best player in the world he would be nerf.
Hey, I’ve always had an idea for a tier list where each of the tiers are the rank they should be considered to be, rn it could be r3 tier, r2 tier and r1 and below. And when I new rank appears a new tier is added. This would allow for the natural reset of the tier list anytime a new rank comes out where the top gets reset and champs naturally get demoted over time if they aren’t relevant to take to the next rank. But as ranks become more accessible the tier would naturally grow to reflect the types of champions that players could expect to rank up.
If you don’t like the idea of a “rolling list” what if the tiers were based on priority to rank up. But that isn’t far offf from what you’re doing now just a different perspective.
Here's some feedback for the next tier list video : You're awesome! And I love your content
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I'll be honest I do prefer that other tier list lol but in fairness to you Lags, that's a list made from alot of different peoples inputs. There is room in this game for many different tier list. Even tho I prefer the other. Yours is still incredible. There is more then enough room in this game for many different tier lists. Don't stop man
thanks bud!!
Hey Lags, you might want to freeze panes for the icon legend at the top so that when users scroll down the classes, we can still see the icons without having to memorise or scroll up again, hope this helps! The tier list is great
Love the “cough cough Silver Sable” remark 😂 Felt the same way about her & SOOOO many other champs this year!
First of all, THANK YOU for doing this list. It's highly appreciated and helpful. I have one comment/disagreement. Moleman should be higher. I actually ranked him before NF. He clears so much content so easily. Shrugging debuffs just like Kingpin, but with the ability to have guaranteed crits, so it doesn't matter if the defender bleeds or not, he's still taking then out. This has nothing to do with his recent usage in SoS. He's just a beast and can finish fights faster than some of the Skill champs listed above him easily. Parry, heavy. Parry, heavy...go into frenzy mode and the fight is over.
promoted!
Lags I’m so glad you do these tier list truly they have single handedly gotten me to valiant and the GC in battlegrounds awesome work brotha 💯
What’s good lags making a video about the situation I hope you support and have a good day 🔥🔥
Patriot being that low is crazy my guy. I guess people haven’t had a chance to use him yet.
Hey man, I think you’re sleeping on iron heart. I use her in AW for pretty much every mutant defender. She has so much utility and pretty good damage and burst with the multiple debuffs + sp2. Check out some videos of her, she can seriously take so many matchups because of her utility and easy access to incinerate OR rupture. You’ll always be able to do damage unless they shrug. Anyways, enjoy the tier list as always and hope you have a great day!
I really think Chee’ilth deserves S tier. The sheer amount of consistent bleed damage output she has is incredible.
Thank you for using the S-F tier rankings. I find the "wordy" tier names that much of the MCOC community uses to be very arbitrary and misleading. You can't accurately gauge the strength of a tier list if even the tier names are getting power crept ("god tier -> beyond god tier -> ultra mega beyond god tier, etc)
tbh i like to watch these videos because i enjoy your content, but ive always used vegas tier list as the standard
Regarding labelling of the tiers - it's really much of a muchness and I personally don't even notice. I felt that the "Old God" etc tiers were fine, but I will say that often when I'd share the ratings with others they'd laugh about the naming structure, and even debate the relative prowess of Titans vs Old Gods :)
I have followed your tier lists for years I am glad you are using S-F tier rankings it makes things a lot easier to understand. Also time to r6 enchantress for me :D
thanks bud!!
Seatin was pushing luke cage before and after the buff. Yall owe that boy seatin a truck of flowers
Which 7* would you rank? Venom with Venom relic or Beta Ray Bill? Both undupped.
both deserve it i feel like venom will be better at that rank and unawakened but bill would be more fun
The stark spidey glaze is wild, also funny enough i remember ages ago during the maestro boss challenge u were the only one to use wolv x23 when everyone else took stark spidey
that sounds like msd not me haha
I recently took my 6⭐Superior Iron Man to R3. He's awakened at Sig Lvl 20 as well.
Highest I got was 157K Damage with the Special 2.
I think he deserves S tier for the insane amount of damage he can do. Plus, he can auto-block and trigger parry AND his heavy attacks give him a buff that allows him to parry non-contact attack.
Who's tier list did Kabam say they use?
OG Black Panther is still underrated. He's viable for a lot of stuff, especially at max sig. Have a r5 ascended one and he shreds endgame content. I'd say at least an A tier champ.
Don't forget mano. It's your opinion we respect. Not kabams. Don't feel bad about your list. Also, I went for your advice and got my first package in months. Pulled enchantress and duped beta ray. Pretty solid get! Cheers!! Also. Titan is awful rn
niceeeeeeeee!
Professor X in B Tier is just criminal. He is one of the absolute best everest content champs and also kind of viable in bgs for evade counter. The damage after few specials is ridiculous
And he is out as a seven star, I dont even have him but still rate him high. Wish I could pull him in near future.
Well, your list is humbling. Apparently, my 7mil roster sucks! 😂
Oh well, I rank the champs I love to use.
I appreciate your work on this list. Please keep up the good work
hey man thats the best way to play the game use the champs YOU LIKE!!
Yeah sauron is Underrated fr. He always comes in clutch when I need him
I wish Arcade could get a slight Damage boost to his dot damage and maybe a crit boost on specials hed be such a good duel threat.😊and possibly a defensive boost as well
Luke Cage: tank sp3
Exaustions Power drains champs like (serpent, hyperion)
neuter (Sasquatch ,no wrath mode, no unstoppable)
SP2 shuts down immortality (serpent, Hercules, immortal hulk
Lags I also forgot to mention, I think Patriot needs the "wants to be awakened" symbol as it allows him to better counter Photon.
IMO Superior iron man where he is was fine, teenage warhead good where she is, Ghost S+ fashow, Galan wasn't on your list I'd go S on him most def, Moleman I 'd do S tier and that's about it. That was a nice tier list man really enjoyable video, and the changes are cool too. Personally I would prefer the S+ to be named something else since S is already one. Just feels like the S+ champs deserve a "cooler" category name lol
You have Superior Iron Man in both A and F tier. I love the respect for Luke Cage.
Chee'ilth is too undervalued IMO. Her utility with GRIT and Clensing with amazing damage for any game mode while also being a great defender!
Gd work bro keep it up 🍻
Hit Monkey is my highest rated champ right now. I maxed him out. The damage he does is INSANE
I think HB deserves S+, he has the damage, the debuffs if there are any nodes that require you to apply debuffs, he unblockable sp, he has one of or not the best power control of the tech class, he has regen, he has armors and the bulk. All of that I think he deserves S+
I think omega sentinel and daredevil Hell’s Kitchen both need a tier upgrade just for the fact of being great photon counters
thank you for continuing to improve this. What do you think about adding a graphical representation (bar or pie chart) to show the number of champs in each tier and class? The point you mentioned about quantity and quality made me think this could be a nice ongoing view for us on how each class is progressing. Cheers!
good idea!
you forgot to add galan
Cassie been carrying the hell out of my mini acc as an accended r4 6*...definitely underrated
The tier name change from mcoc slang to s-f tier is bittersweet. Its been the names of these tier lists for what feels like forever. It is foing to be much easier for new players to understand. But i think both should be implemented into both. Kinds like 'beyonder tier (s+)" or something along those lines. Just my 2 cents though. :)
I just watched the tier list video for that said creator that kabam said they watch 😅
Falcon in B tier? He counters so much nodes and his crits are amazing! Just think he's a bit underrated here :)
Nice update. Suggestion to add Saga tag so if someone is trying to decide they may go for a Saga champ first.
Nice changes. Dust could use recoil friendly icon. Since 3x immune and standard rotation is sp3-sp2-sp1. So often avoid much recoil damage.
good shout
I was so shocked to see Valkyrie only in A tier, even at only 6 star she can cheese a lot of fights
Excellent work, I always reference for rank up advice.
Finally bro those old tier names confused me s and a etc makes more sense and I'm able to gauge their power level.
Woahhhh sinister actually made it to S+ top three mutants🖤
Red skull should be at S+ tier imo.
Dude, you really needed to ask the chat if ghost deserves to be in a class above all others? Honestly it’s no doubt or question about it. You knew where she belonged. No matter what ghost still gonna do what she do and even if they don’t make her a 7*, she’s guaranteed to have a spot in this game same thing for quake. Ppl still using her as a 5* in war. How does that not make her GOATED in this tier list you have made. All in all it’s pretty fair but GHOST AND QUAKE you did dirty my dude.
That needs to be corrected ASAP cause let’s be clear for any of you newbies, if you master ghost play style or quake play style your guaranteed to find a spot in high tier alliances given you have a respectable roster.
In all honesty there should be a tier specifically for those two cause no one compares to them and their usability in the game.
nah dude this isnt 2018 ghost and quake dont see nearly as much play these days and its not even close
Trying to beat Enchantress made me wanna put my phone through a wall.
Any way I could get some advice on rankups? Just got back on after a couple years and wondered your thoughts. Thanks for consistently posting Lag!
If superior Ironman was immune to Power Drain and Burn he would 120% deserve to be in S-Tier
Do yourself a huge favor and put silk into s+ immediately. She is top 3 science and it’s not even close. She has dominated every meta since bgs began. I am usually running 30 second fights. Even against onslaught. She deserves top tier IMO
nah shes overrated in my opinion def doesnt make S+ for me when spot is better (again all my opinion) v\
@@Lagacy Always appreciate your input. Make sure to have a her paired with relic and string those hit combos together. BTW. I have spot at r3 as well. He is a better defender, but on O its not even close. Appreciate your input my man!!
No fans of the Hood in here??? Learn his rotation and He’ll go back to back invisible with great damage.
I mean I’m very happy to see him in Titan offer.
He has his fan club. That’s all I’m sayin.
Ghost should be s tier, shes broken in some situations, but she isnt that used that commonly in most bg metas or aw anymore. Also i think bullseye should be s+ tier bc of the huge impact hes had
Moondragon does not deserve B tier, she is so underrated. She does massive damage if you know what u are doing with her, and she does it fast. One of the better bullseye countres also
Sooo... whose tier list were Kabam referring to then? Anyone knows? ;-)
Vergas
Superior Iron man is a crazy reliable attacker. Got him from the titan and took to r3. Definitely an S worthy champ
Guardian also deserves the s+ promotion. Just watch andy‘s r3 sig 200, he can nuke so much, against 6* you might not even have to throw sp1. on top the resistances, def deserves s+
The thing is guardian has been bad in the last 2 metas and will be bad in the next one too he’s easily shut down
I'm assuming Kabam uses Vegas and the illuminati tier list
Give champs you ‘don’t use’ more love. Maybe base decisions fairly by focusing on content only?