And never used. Seriously...a CRITICAL knockdown into a HOLD UP with the four-person All-Out Attack ignored with the 1MORE triggering a ShowTime ignored in for a Baton Pass just to do 3k damage when less than 500 was needed. I get that this is Merciless so that OP wanted to show off, but seriously there was too much mechanics-ignoring showboating interwoven with time-waster moves. (Like, really, using One-Shot Kill that is resisted to deal 55 dmg instead of simply swapping Noir out for Panther or Skull temporarily?)
@@pyrrhusnikos242 Showtimes are inherently random when they show up, and can do really varying amounts of damage. I wanted to use this video for the guide I wrote, so doing it without Showtimes meant that no matter how few Showtimes an individual got, they could still complete the fight before Lavenza uses Megidolaon. And how much damage Haru does with OSK is almost irrelevant, you're using that move to get a crit and Baton Pass to Joker, whose damage will trump everyone else
bainz They aren't random actually. There are queues which cause them to almost always happen (Enemy low, enemy defense down, Joker low, ally incapacitated, etc. etc.)
haha I probably should have taken it, but I had already committed to completing the fight without Showtimes at that point. I'll make a Crow specific video at some point to make up for it much later edit: it is here ruclips.net/video/nVxVUaLVPSw/видео.html
For those of you who didn’t catch it: yes, Thermopylae can only be used during when Joker is ambushed. However, if you have the skill Vitality of the Trees, then you can use any of those ambushed-exclusive moves in normal combat. So basically your party gets a full Heat Riser without wasting multiple turns, maxing Yusuke, or relying on Futaba’s RNG.
Bit late but if you have the orpheus f dlc you get to use a skill that boosts all of your stats and heal you for 50% hp without needing to be surrounded.
I don’t know what was funnier to me: Haru getting spawn killed barely after finishing being revived, or the game absolutely spamming Showtimes in the second half of the battle.
My stomach dropped when Haru missed one shot kill. Seriously, I lost to Lavenza twice on hard because of Haru and Sumire failing to crit, even though I had the passive crit bonus and brave step.
I managed to beat her first try by seriously overpreparing, but still _almost_ lost when it came down to Joker having to perform an unboosted crit with Sword Dance after Noir and Violet had already failed.
I followed this video step by step but somehow i managed to skip phase 4 entirely and beat her with Hassou Tobi from Yoshitsune just like in 5:13 it was on Merciless as well so i dunno what i did right but hey i'll take it lol thanks for the video dude!
2:26 I've actually never seen the save animation (since I play casually on normal) does every character do the slow down or is that a reference too violet's backstory(trying to stay spoiler free).
On my first playthrough I thought Lavenza is a little cutie and she doesnt get enought screentime. On my second playthrough I was happy to see her again ... then I fought her (still doing it and stopped counting). Now all I can say is: "I hate her, I hate her, I HATE HER; I HATE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next playthrough I'll accept Yaldabaoth's offer, so that the little bitch may rot in quarantine velvet room for all eternity.
Thanks for more detailed information about the phases. I always stuck in the 2nd phase. Turns out she's testing my knowledge with the game mechanics, eh?
This is the same line up and strategy i use the only change is that i use Akechi instead of Makoto bc of his trait and debilitate, even the same loadout for Sumire and for Haru i go with OSK, heat riser and Mapsyodine the rest is gun boost and amp and psy boost and amp, nice video bro even most of people think Okami breaks the game there are a lot of strategies for her even on Merciless also Satanael is OP with black viper and intense focus
As someone that also did it on merciless, is actually not thaaaaat hard, its just that the requirements are VERY tight. For first phase i personally went with Ryuji for his party wide charge, Sumire with her party wide crit+, Akechi for his debilitate and with Joker i kept rotating between Attis for his party wide Heat Rise (only works if you give him the trait to be able to use abilities that require an ambush at any time), a healer persona, Yoshitsune for damage and any other persona with high luck stat with any ability that has a high chance of criting. The first phase is just bursting her down, keep in mind that after you do around 5000dmg, her next phase begins. Here you will need a technical hit each turn, so for that, i swapped Akechi for Haru just before the phase started and used status effects on Lavenza, any works tbh but i went for those that are affected by Psi attacks (if you struggle with the RNG and have the DLCs, Raoul's Phantom Show is almost 100% chance of hitting a sleep status effect, but really, any works), do that until she gets her new dialogue. On the next phase, she will require a crit each turn, this is where Sumire's buff really shine, now spam Haru's One shot kill and any high crit chance ability with Joker that you have and you should be fine. After that you get to lavenza's last phase where you'll really need to burst her down because she starts to hit HARD, haru quickly becomes useless here as Lavenza in this phase is inmune to status effects AND gun damage, so swapping her out for anyone will is the best choice (unless you somehow managed to make her a magic user, in that case, yea she can do damage with Psi attacks), and from then on is bursting her down while surviving.
That'd be interesting, kinda like FF7R Hard mode, no items. The toughest part would be not being able to heal/remove ailments with whoever you want. I might try it at some point!
How the fuck do you do that much damage. I can only do 800 with baton pass concentrate thermophlr and severe neutral hitting elemental attack with magic ability. You do fucking 3000
Oh, no you def don't have to. My strat for this fight was just based around party members Baton Passing to Joker, so Linked Bloodline was effective here. Linked Bloodline based on my testing gives a 40% boost but weirdly only affects single-target skills after a Baton Pass. But Mighty Gaze is better in general, cuz it's always 20%
@@perm1thurple581 Yeah I prefer the manga names for P3 and P5 but the one I don't like using is Souji Seta, I think Yu Narukami it's better and it's been used in every spin off so far so it's the one most people use too lol
My biggest question is what accessory should I give Joker? You mention in the guide what to give the others but not Joker. At least not for the non-solo part.
Does ali dance and evade skills stack?? I heard ali dance and angelic grace dont stack anymore so I was wondering if it was the case for evade skills too
Some personas have it naturally, so start save scumming the strengthen. Theres also a chance some personas can get itemized during an alarm and create the boosts
Noir: Revives
Lavenza: N O
9:50
Sorry Haru, no screen time for you
Wandering Typhlosion All for Lavanza!
Sadness
It must have felt very bad
9:54 Noire didn't even finish the revive animation and gets killed again LMAO
That’s what we call spawn camping
spawncamping.mp4
Ah yes NOIRE it’s noir btw
@@AName-g5o foad-camping fun all year round!
Lavenza was determined to take the chainsaw to Haru. She was almost ignoring everyone else
Haru took too much screen time. So she decided to remover her
Lavenza wanted to show that their is something better than a fricking battle axe
@@Zant582 pretty much
I guess Lavenza has something against waitresses
@@JustChill_1031 you mean the outfit cause she's not a waitress and yes this is 1 year old late and?
Everyone, every 5 seconds: "It's Showtime!"
And never used. Seriously...a CRITICAL knockdown into a HOLD UP with the four-person All-Out Attack ignored with the 1MORE triggering a ShowTime ignored in for a Baton Pass just to do 3k damage when less than 500 was needed. I get that this is Merciless so that OP wanted to show off, but seriously there was too much mechanics-ignoring showboating interwoven with time-waster moves. (Like, really, using One-Shot Kill that is resisted to deal 55 dmg instead of simply swapping Noir out for Panther or Skull temporarily?)
@@pyrrhusnikos242 Showtimes are inherently random when they show up, and can do really varying amounts of damage. I wanted to use this video for the guide I wrote, so doing it without Showtimes meant that no matter how few Showtimes an individual got, they could still complete the fight before Lavenza uses Megidolaon. And how much damage Haru does with OSK is almost irrelevant, you're using that move to get a crit and Baton Pass to Joker, whose damage will trump everyone else
Pyrrhus Nikos d e d
bainz ah that explains it, didn’t realize this was a guide but ah well. I’m just dumb.
bainz They aren't random actually. There are queues which cause them to almost always happen (Enemy low, enemy defense down, Joker low, ally incapacitated, etc. etc.)
9:51 - 9:53 Quite painful, getting spawnkilled. Poor Haru.
Something died inside of me when you skiped the very last Akechi showtime...
haha I probably should have taken it, but I had already committed to completing the fight without Showtimes at that point. I'll make a Crow specific video at some point to make up for it
much later edit: it is here ruclips.net/video/nVxVUaLVPSw/видео.html
9:52 LOL
Damn, Kasumi really just looks like P3 Femc in that Gekkoukan uniform.
Nah, she's def Mitsuru's little sister
They look similiar lol
That is Clearly FEMC
For those of you who didn’t catch it: yes, Thermopylae can only be used during when Joker is ambushed. However, if you have the skill Vitality of the Trees, then you can use any of those ambushed-exclusive moves in normal combat. So basically your party gets a full Heat Riser without wasting multiple turns, maxing Yusuke, or relying on Futaba’s RNG.
Bit late but if you have the orpheus f dlc you get to use a skill that boosts all of your stats and heal you for 50% hp without needing to be surrounded.
@@bearbones7913i thought cadenza just gave evasion?
@@shadex0437Sorry i think I was talking about Neo Cadenza thats from Orpheus F i believe
@@bearbones7913yes
Akechi: *LETS DO THIS JO-*
Akira: N O
9:54 My...Lungs...Are...Failing...
>1299 damage
>perhaps I went too far
HEE HO POWAH
@Alvasei so it's the same type of persona as jack frost.
9:01 is no one gonna talk about this timing
I’m confused?
Same here?
真 the music
Damn thats perfect :D
Holy shit its me
11:25 Akechi: LETS S L A U G H T E R ‘EM
Ok haru is revi-------aaaaaand its gone
9:51 this made me laugh a lot
Finally someone who didn't use Myriad Truths! Thank you!
All will be revealed
yeah that ability sucks the fun out of everything, talk about pay to win personas
@@marcosv.r5261 well atlus has to make the purchase worthwhile somehow
@@yomama4240 honestly just have Maria to fully heal you...
F o r t h e M y r i a d T r u t h s ! 1 ! 1
I don’t know what was funnier to me: Haru getting spawn killed barely after finishing being revived, or the game absolutely spamming Showtimes in the second half of the battle.
You could see the pause of “oh thank god” when Kasumi saved joker
My stomach dropped when Haru missed one shot kill. Seriously, I lost to Lavenza twice on hard because of Haru and Sumire failing to crit, even though I had the passive crit bonus and brave step.
I managed to beat her first try by seriously overpreparing, but still _almost_ lost when it came down to Joker having to perform an unboosted crit with Sword Dance after Noir and Violet had already failed.
9:54: Lavenza be like "I don't recall ever saying you could get back up!"
5:15
"Wha- Wha- Wha- Wha- Wha- Wha- Wha- What?
Dammit it's GER all over again
When you get separated, only it’s 8 times instead of two.
When u think about it diavolo getting hassou tobi'd is canon
This must be the power of requiem!
Kore ga requiem da
2:30
That’s very ironic if you know what I mean
Akechi: *THEY'RE WIDE OPEN! LET'S SLAUGHTER EM!*
Joker: No!
Rivers in the desert dosent make sense for this battle because there not giving hope like they do by beatimg shido its just a freindly competition.
Well, to me the song gives the vibe of confronting an absurdly powerful opponent, with Shido it just happened to be a really personal fight
Lavenza has power near a god.
Im hoping a Showtime at the end tough 😞 but still good to watch 👍👍
2:26 lazanza: die joker violet be like:NO NO DON'T TOUCH HIM THERE THIS IS HIS NO NO SQUARE
More like- “THIS IS MY NONO SQUARE”
the most exciting moment of the fight is then Haru misses at phase three
5:15 when joker goes for the romance route with lavenza later that night.
I actually mistook Yusuke for Minato with the SEES outfit on.
I followed this video step by step but somehow i managed to skip phase 4 entirely and beat her with Hassou Tobi from Yoshitsune just like in 5:13
it was on Merciless as well so i dunno what i did right but hey i'll take it lol thanks for the video dude!
You probably got a crit during Hassou Tobi
the game is begging you to use showtime attacks
you really just went with an uno reverse card when she took your buffs and heat risered
That Hatsu no tobi 8x critical hit my feelings
2:27 why is it so funny she tried the chainsaw like Lavenza you were gonna kill him for real that woulda been the end of the world
Ikr
damn
imagine finishing this fight with Crow's Showtime
Show em who is the boss
I did this when i first beat her, no joke
And I lost without getting past phase 1. To be fair I more or less just went in and looked how it would go.
6:38 that’s a satisfying sound af
9:52
Lavenza: hAhA, no
0:51 Haru's turn...... Kasumi casually contorting her leg up to steal Haru's screen time xD
I Love The Dynamic Screen
11:19 is anyone mentioning the greatest synced up baton pass ever?
9:50 was unironically hilarious
"she can't all out attack she's only one person-" OH SHIT
2:26 I've actually never seen the save animation (since I play casually on normal) does every character do the slow down or is that a reference too violet's backstory(trying to stay spoiler free).
Every character has their own saving Joker animation, and they all slow down
10:25 As Futaba would say “The RNG gods smile upons today”
I’m in shock you didn’t finish with that Akechi Showtime. Kinda hurt.
Gotta love it when nobody lands a crit during phase 3 and Lavenza ends the fight next turn
Joker: Yoshitsune!
Lavenza: what what what what what what what
On my first playthrough I thought Lavenza is a little cutie and she doesnt get enought screentime. On my second playthrough I was happy to see her again ... then I fought her (still doing it and stopped counting). Now all I can say is: "I hate her, I hate her, I HATE HER; I HATE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next playthrough I'll accept Yaldabaoth's offer, so that the little bitch may rot in quarantine velvet room for all eternity.
9:52 "oh you're going to keep fighting? that's cute."
9:54
Noir: Thank you
Lavenza: Are u sure about that?
Thanks for more detailed information about the phases. I always stuck in the 2nd phase. Turns out she's testing my knowledge with the game mechanics, eh?
I can't even pass the first Palace in vanilla P5 on Merciless
It gets so much easier after Kamoshidas
You need to take advantage of technical damage
Tbh thats the hardest dungeon on merciless.
You have barely any good personas and no reliable ways to restore sp
This is the same line up and strategy i use the only change is that i use Akechi instead of Makoto bc of his trait and debilitate, even the same loadout for Sumire and for Haru i go with OSK, heat riser and Mapsyodine the rest is gun boost and amp and psy boost and amp, nice video bro even most of people think Okami breaks the game there are a lot of strategies for her even on Merciless also Satanael is OP with black viper and intense focus
I wonder how long it took you behind the scenes to win this fight
Right? I can't make it 3 turns without her knocking my ass down.
@@YinYangRedBlueMaster which phase do you have trouble with
As someone that also did it on merciless, is actually not thaaaaat hard, its just that the requirements are VERY tight.
For first phase i personally went with Ryuji for his party wide charge, Sumire with her party wide crit+, Akechi for his debilitate and with Joker i kept rotating between Attis for his party wide Heat Rise (only works if you give him the trait to be able to use abilities that require an ambush at any time), a healer persona, Yoshitsune for damage and any other persona with high luck stat with any ability that has a high chance of criting.
The first phase is just bursting her down, keep in mind that after you do around 5000dmg, her next phase begins.
Here you will need a technical hit each turn, so for that, i swapped Akechi for Haru just before the phase started and used status effects on Lavenza, any works tbh but i went for those that are affected by Psi attacks (if you struggle with the RNG and have the DLCs, Raoul's Phantom Show is almost 100% chance of hitting a sleep status effect, but really, any works), do that until she gets her new dialogue.
On the next phase, she will require a crit each turn, this is where Sumire's buff really shine, now spam Haru's One shot kill and any high crit chance ability with Joker that you have and you should be fine.
After that you get to lavenza's last phase where you'll really need to burst her down because she starts to hit HARD, haru quickly becomes useless here as Lavenza in this phase is inmune to status effects AND gun damage, so swapping her out for anyone will is the best choice (unless you somehow managed to make her a magic user, in that case, yea she can do damage with Psi attacks), and from then on is bursting her down while surviving.
@@Yroxcruk666 you expect someone to read this whole article? Lol
i mean people read big guides all the time
Lavenza when she sees yoshitsune: what what what what what what what WHAT
5:13 What What What What What What
Lavenza has a new game plus boss fight neat
Why is Makoto dressed like Futaba's mother?
how about no expendables? i'm curious to see how you'd come up with a strategy for that
That'd be interesting, kinda like FF7R Hard mode, no items. The toughest part would be not being able to heal/remove ailments with whoever you want. I might try it at some point!
@@bainz well if you do try it, good luck! :)
how am i getting recommended this EXACT video while watching the video itself?
time to do another ng+ playthrough to get this build
Violet with Gekoukan uniform looks so good
what are those costumes on makoto and haru??? i need them in my life
They're the Catherine costumes
6:41 that "BLOCK" made me so sad.
i wish she could've gotten hit with all that damage
Thermopylae : that can not be used right now...... why????
The Persona's trait: Vitality of the Tree
How the fuck do you do that much damage. I can only do 800 with baton pass concentrate thermophlr and severe neutral hitting elemental attack with magic ability. You do fucking 3000
a fellow vishnu user? respect
What’s better linked bloodline or mighty gaze because it’s starting to look like I have to remake satanael
Oh, no you def don't have to. My strat for this fight was just based around party members Baton Passing to Joker, so Linked Bloodline was effective here. Linked Bloodline based on my testing gives a 40% boost but weirdly only affects single-target skills after a Baton Pass. But Mighty Gaze is better in general, cuz it's always 20%
Thanks for the reply I’m definitely going to be remake satanael
What fusion was used for arsene to inherit trait will of sword?
9:16
RIP Headphone users
Very impressive. Also, much respect for naming your protag Akira.
Akira is cool, but i prefer Harem Fucker 249
The manga is always canon imo because manga always comes before the anime.
@@perm1thurple581 Yeah I prefer the manga names for P3 and P5 but the one I don't like using is Souji Seta, I think Yu Narukami it's better and it's been used in every spin off so far so it's the one most people use too lol
And I thought the chainsaw was scary before
What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Dat dieback on Haru tho lol
Good job at not showing spoilers
How were you able to use Thermopylae in the beginning? When I use that, it tells me that it can't be used...
Attis' trait lets you use ambush-only skills in normal conditions
It says no dlc but in order to get the accessory Salvation Crown you need dlc
? No, you don't. You get it from Tanaka's Shady Commodities.
Thanks!
9:46
💀💀💀💀Lmfaooo
My biggest question is what accessory should I give Joker? You mention in the guide what to give the others but not Joker. At least not for the non-solo part.
6:10 Perrrr son-nah! Huh?!
Is Makato wearing the outfit that Katherine wears?
1. Yes she is wearing the Catherine outfit
2. It’s “Makoto”
Nvm it’s Katherine my bad
i just read your guide and noticed but how do you get skills like spell/arms master on party members without accesories?
Jazz Club, on days 1/22 and 1/29
@@bainz aah, thx
Well done
Is there a strategy behind not using showtimes bc I have a lot of trouble beating this boss even when maxed out
I get the feeling black viper is not as strong as it should be
I know this is late but I believe Lavenza takes reduced damage from almighty attacks.
Lavenza resists Almighty
5:12
What-What-What-What-What-What-What-What-??? ??? ?? ?
Does ali dance and evade skills stack??
I heard ali dance and angelic grace dont stack anymore so I was wondering if it was the case for evade skills too
I don't believe they stack, but I haven't tested it. You'll either dodge based on Ali Dance or Evade, not both at the same time
Oh so you're basically wasting a slot on yusuke, makoto and sumire?
@@Raydnt69 Well 3x evasion (Evade) is still better than 2x for Ali Dance, but they could be replaced I guess
Nah I'm terrified of Lavenza, I can even do anything against her
I've always wondered what it feels like to be hit with that attack on 5:37?
Why did that final black viper do so much?
How do you get Almighty Boost/Amp without DLC?
Network fusion, its completely RNG so I recomend you save before fusion and if you dont get it just reload your save and fusion again till you get it
Some personas have it naturally, so start save scumming the strengthen.
Theres also a chance some personas can get itemized during an alarm and create the boosts
Imagine she uses diarahan
i was wondering why my arsene did only 3k damage while yours did more than 5k, and just after beating her i realized i was still in normal difficulty
How did you record this? Aren't things after third semester blocked?
You can still use recording software, but the actual ps4’s broadcasting is blocked in the third semester yea.
At this point I just wonder why the velvet sisters don't take on the respective game's final bosses themselves
i didn’t get one showtime during this fight 🧍🏾♂️
Where can you find the pick me up tie and what does she do?
1/15 Home Shopping channel, Insta-Heal
How long did it take you to grind all those max stats