I use to be an atheist mainly for this reasoning mostly along with the bible written by man etc etc. I came to learn I was x wrong on every aspect of my thinking. When Satan began to challenge god's rule . Btw. He didn't challenge his power he challenged his rule. He said he could rule the angels better than god. God could have just snapped his fingers and say be gone with you Lucifer. The only problem with that v would be left on the angels mind with what if Lucifer was right? Also they would serve out of fear and not love. So God said ok Lucifer show me. He gave him control of this world and since the beginning of time war after war. Government after government has failed. The world has become more evil with every passing generation. Well there are millions of angels watching this saga play out and they see that life without God is not good. They also see that Lucifer is failing at his endeavour to rule better than God. The end is near and God is getting ready to take back this world he designed to be inhabited forever.
He might want to take back control of the world a bit quicker, as we are getting very close to extinction through overpopulation and warfare. What exactly is he waiting for? Does disease, famine, war and natural disasters have to get any worse before he'll step in?
@@morganclare4704 Cite the particular writing in which Professor Lewis stated that baptism is salvific and that as a member of the Anglican Church that he wanted to return to before the Henry VIII days??
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@@saltlight3404 its not rational to think that a mind has causal powers or that it is a substance that can create wholly distinct substances from nothing or that a mind can exist without a substance or that two distinct substances can interact.
@@CMVMicSupernatural means it doesn't follow all the laws of physics and chemistry, especially if it created the laws... Also, how is it rational to think that a 3 billion line long code wrote itself?
@@shaunmeyer8822 the laws of nature are descriptive. If something doesnt obey the laws, it simply means the laws do not accurately describe reality. It is not evidence of an immaterial or spiritual realm. Also, a code wasnt written, it was formed as a result of causality. What code are you referring too?
The issue of objective morality and Christian faith in general is nicely and easily presented in the novel called "Adonai" by Arman Isayan, which could be especially helpful for younger people who struggle with the issue of faith
Jeremiah 5:19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, Wherefore doeth the Lord our God all these things unto us? then shalt thou answer them, Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's.
There are people suffering that have done nothing. Why punish person B for sins committed by person A? I was not there when adam was sinning. Humans are born as sinner Adam was not. Not a leveled playing field.
"Have you been persecuted yet for what you believe? If you haven't, maybe they don't know what you believe." Self-important, self-righteous, self-centered schlock.
@@sokuralife what’s your evidence for that statement. There’s a lot of evidence that suggest he does ( listen to Frank ) actually there’s more evidence that he does than he doesnt. Like I said what’s your evidence that He doesn’t?
Health and wealth are still promised in the Bible (Abraham and David became rich, Jesus healed all of those who came to him), but yes, suffering is inevitable as well. If a pastor promotes health and wealth, BUT emphasizes that health and wealth is only possible through Jesus AND ALSO reminds us that suffering and trials can still happen, I think their heart is still in the right place. It's a matter of context and making sure that Jesus is still the priority of the message. What's wrong is when pastors put health and wealth at the forefront and forget about Jesus and the inevitable suffering that sharing the Gospel brings (and even demand tithes to boot).
I'm trying to find a video of FT to send to a friend who recently lost her only child and is asking the above question.... I am dissapointed at how obvious it is that I can't share this video with her. The opening gave me hope, the follow up by Frank made my stomache turn at the thought. Any suggestions would be deeply appreciated.
@@guardian100 Hey Captain Obvious, do you think I should have like..... gone to the viewing too? Or maybe grieved with her? I never thought of that. I don't know what I would have done without your wisdom and deep personal insight into my life. It's almost like you know me. However can I thank you?
Hi, it seems like guardian is just trying to encourage you to be present and not worry about saying the right thing. Because often times, there is nothing to say unless they are asking. When I lost my baby and more recently my brother, the last thing I would’ve wanted was someone to send me a video. What did matter was the people who cared to ask me about them and simply be there with me.
@@Dani-grace So, I guess I should have specified, she is asking me weekly. I am the only believer she knows. But as no one seems able to answer my question, it seems the modern Christian response is no response at all. I too, have experienced deep loss. I am not new to it, that is why my question has nothing to do with that and specifically pertained to recommendations for videos to share with her. I now understand why I am the only person she feels she will get and answer out of. 😂 seriously. Wow. The concern is for everything except where I declared the need.
Like in the Garden of Eden? It was a paradise, and humans ruined it. Sin permeated the earth, and causes much pain and suffering, but people blame God for what ultimately humans caused.
@@genesmith482 So, you’re suggesting that we believe the bible which is just a book that we all should just believe even though there is no evidence that anything in the bible is true.
*First monkey-human embryos reignite debate over hybrid animals* Monkey-human embryos have been created. In April 2021, researchers fertilized eggs extracted from cynomolgus monkeys and grew them in culture. Six days after fertilization, the team injected 132 embryos with human pluripotent stem cells, which can grow into a range of cell types inside and outside an embryo. Wouldn't be possible if 'separate creation' was true, would it?
Like statements we hear everyday from people, we look at the situation or context if we wish to have accurate determination. The quote in question is the last line of an occasion where Jesus was giving the disciples a picture of the (national) unbelief of Israel through the fig tree that would hence bear no more fruit. The disciples were marveled and puzzled so Jesus prophesied that they would take up a mountain and cast it into the sea. Again, this is a picture, not a literal, and it relates to the disciples "upending" Israel's religious establishment through the gospel. Finally He gave the 21:22 statement. The context already limits this statement about prayer to the disciples' relation to Israel and their (upcoming) promulgation of the gospel message to Israel. So it meant that they would have receptive help in all things they asked in relation to their ability to witness to Israel. Can't take quotes from the Bible, a politician, a textbook, or anywhere else without due consideration to the occasion of why something was said.
Yeah so Jesus does protect us and answers our prayers.. he commands his angels over us to guard us in all of our ways so we don’t strike our foot against a stone. He may allow a period of testing of our faith where negative things might happen. But all of the Bible heroes had a happy ending
Set aside some traditional beliefs you have if you want to understand why evil exists. Almost all Christians think that God is in control of everything that happens here on earth, but he isn't: 1 John 5:19: ...the whole world is under the control of the EVIL ONE. God gave authority in the earth to Adam. Adam gave it to Satan, Jesus got it back and gave it to man again. God is on the outside looking in. God can't do anything on the earth unless he has a man's authority to work through. Why do you think he had to send Jesus, a MAN? If he could just do anything, which he can't, why didn't he just flip his finger and solve the sin problem without sending Jesus? And almost all Christians believe that everything that happens to them is God's will. Does God's will always happen on the Earth? No. God doesn't want people to perish and go to hell, but it's happening against his will: 2 Peter 3:8-10: The Lord is ... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Even Jesus said, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." That shows you that God's will is being performed in heaven but not completely on the earth yet. Just think logical, in John 10:10 Jesus said the 'thief' comes to Kill, Steal, and Destroy But I have come to give you Life To The Full! Does "life to the full" sound like the evil of child abuse, rape, murder, kidnapping, cancer, etc.? No way!!! Jesus wants the BEST for us, "Life To The Full!!!" There is a "Doctrine of Demons" and it teaches that God is in control of everything, meaning sickness, disease, and accidents as well. But we can see from the above scriptures that this is not true. Evil exists because God gave authority of this earth to Adam, who, in turn, gave it to the evil one. We, mankind, ultimately, and thanks to Jesus, ended up with that authority. But we still Satan and demons as enemies that we have to use it against. Most Christians don't even know that they have this authority. Satan, demons, man's free will, and physics are causing the pain and suffering! Jesus gave us the authority to be kings and conquerors here on earth, we are to use that authority against evil instead of sitting back and blaming God for these misfortunes. Some people are so confused that they think that these misfortunes are BLESSINGS from God to humble us or teach us something. Wow, that's a totally unbiblical view of God's character. How is that 35 year old man that died of cancer going to put into practice whatever it was that God was, supposedly, teaching him? If you really want it laid out clear, see the book, "When Healing Prayers Aren't Working - Spiritual Warfare for Real."
Well said & amen, Gene Smith ! The Lord blessed me with this realization a few years ago thru anointed Bible preachers, including Andrew Wommack & Pastor Dilkumar. How very timely, since my family & I needed Healing big time. When Jesus moves me to pray, & it seems Impossible ..Lord Jesus reminds me "I already Finished this on the Cross !" So I speak to the mountain, & it moves ! He commanded us to believe & obey .. heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out the demons. He promised to do everything we ask, that His Father might be glorified in the Son. Faithful is He who calls, & He will Do ! I've experienced Thousands of Miracles of healing & rescue .. It has already been bound .. or loosed in Heaven. The only possible barrier is Sin .. someone else's or Mine. All the more reason to keep myself close to our Savior, & Pure .. to fall on my knees & repent my smallest deviance, or wavering unbelief .. which He is faithful & just to forgive & cleanse, + Heal. He then leads me out Again, to do battle with the enemies of Life & Godliness .. the Real adversaries of our soul & body, our Life & Peace .. here & hereafter. I believe we are called to share in his Glory & Virtue: we've a responsibility to uphold & defend His Righteousness, Mercy, & Truth. Jesus, as Captain of the Lord's Army, enlists Us with Timothy to be His comrades in arms .. You & I are commissioned, not as mere citizens of His Kingdom of Right & Good, but as Guardians of the Realm .. over our brothers' & sisters' Well Being, at Jesus' behest: not in our own care & power, but by the Blood of his Cross, & his Resurrection to Life. Heaven & they .. now count on Us. So .. when some Calamity befalls, & people ask: How could God let this Happen ? .. I ask: How could believing Christians .. Children & Soldiers of the Living God .. Let this Happen ? ... especially how have I fallen short ? God grant me Grace to be sensitive & responsible to Him, vigilant & zealous for his beloved Saints ( present & prospective) .. courageously engaged in the redemptive cause of our Good Shepherd. The gates of Hell cannot prevail against the Ekklesia of Holy God .. if his Children might thru us yet hear his entire Gospel truth, repent our complacency (unwitting or not) & Grow up into our High Calling ! I thank Heaven, Gene, for your Caring & Faithful endeavor, to clarify & magnify his empowering Word, his holy Will, & his sure Promises. I welcome your comment as my Encouragement, straight from my Lord ! I will read your Book, & revivify my own efforts, to be a more strong & true Soldier, a trustworthy Guardian of His glorious Realm .. in bold caring Prayers, in every courageous Deed .. as ordained for me, by Him. Heaven bless, keep, & prosper You dear Brother ! .. Kenny from Scarborough .. littlerodge@gmail.com
The irony of someone saying I don't have enough FAITH to be an ATHIEST...I WOULD TELL THEM A THIEST WITH OUT ENOUGH FAITH TO MOVE AN A OVER ONE SPACE TO THE RIGHT, THEN YOUR FAITH IS WORTHLESS
If u guys say well god can't control everything well god made the universe is what you say so if he made the universe why can't he make it so he controls the universe
Someone complaining about evil without an objective basis of morality is very absurd. It is like a person who says the building was built wrong without having a blue print.
There is no objective moral standard. Moral Realism is completely false. You require alot more faith to be a theist, than to be an atheist. You have to believe minds are substances that exist unembodied that speak and has magical powers that create distinct substances out of literal nothingness. Energy, space did not come into existence. also, no you dont need a programmer for their to be order or causality and functionalism explains what life, the mind and consciousness is. They are simply a set of functions. Laws are not immaterial, they are products of changes that substances undergo.
"Why does God allow evil"? Because he's allowing us humans to try and do things our own way without him, but we're failing miserable. Once God is satisfied that we've learned the lesson that we can't live without him, he'll step in and completely stop all evil and undo all injustices and bring everyone back to life, and then he'll say, "Ok now lets try it my way."
I like your reasoning. This is a tough one. No christian or religious person can make a logical argument for this. I think of the Jews that died in AUSCHWITZ and all the other camps. How they must have prayed. Ironically God had a reason to intervene during the construction of the tower of Babylon but not on this occasion???.
Tom Foolish When i say God will undo all injustices i mean he will bring back to life everyone who has died, including those who died in Auschwitz, for a chance to live again right here on earth. Everything i say can be backed by scriptures if you'd like to see it.
The scriptures say that??. They shall be brought back??. Superman and batman - the Hollywood fictional figures would not have let Hitler get away with it. Despite their meager powers compared to the almighty God. In summary :- Is God unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful. Is God able but unwilling to prevent evil, then he is not all-good. Is God both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist? If you can logically answer those questions then you can convert me to Christianity or a believer in deities. While you are at it read GENESIS 3:22 and explain to me what type of a petty God this is.
@Tom Foolish.. I'm glad you mentioned the story in Genesis because that is the reason God allows evil, death and suffering. God made Adam and Eve without blemish meaning they would have never got sick, grew old or died. But he also gave them free will to choose to obey and love him or not. If they were forced to obey and love him then they wouldn't have free will and the love wouldn't have meant anything. The tree in the Garden of Eden was a test of their free will. It represented God's right to be ruler and he is the only person who can rightly say what is right and wrong since he created us. God laid one command on Adam and Eve and warned them that they would "positively die" if they ate from the tree. When Satan deceived Eve through a snake, and Adam and Eve ate from the tree, all 3 of them raised the issue that God doesn't have the right to be ruler. Old age and death was caused by Adam and Eve when they disobeyed because they now passed that imperfection on to everyone else. God could have just wiped them out and started over with 2 new humans, but that wouldn't have settle the issue. So God basically said "OK, you think you can live without my guidance? I'll allow time to let you try." But when we look back through history, we can see humans have failed at governing themselves and humans have caused much of the suffering in the world. The day that they disobeyed, God set a plan in motion to undo what they did. Thats where Jesus comes in. He came to get back what Adam had lost for us humans. The day is coming soon when God and Jesus will undo death, suffering and all of mans problems. Anyone who has died for any reason will be brought back to life on earth for a chance to live again, including sinners. (Psalm 37:29; Acts 24:15; John 5:28+29) God didn't create evil. Its the result of free will. So God is able to prevent evil he just chooses not to right now and he knows he easily can undo all of the injustices evil has caused. God is also willing to prevent evil because he has promised to end evil once he is satisfied that we have learned our lesson that we can't live without him. God has also stopped evil in the past with the Flood and at Sodom and Gomorrah. So now, how do people like Hitler fit into all of this? The Bible doesn't say exactly who will be brought back to life. Only Jesus will decide who is worthy of a second chance. It would seem to us that someone like Hitler isn't worthy, but we have to leave it to Jesus to decide. If Jesus decides not to resurrect him, he will be erased from existence. Either way, *all* of the people he killed or people like him killed, will be brought back to life in a new body. They will all have a chance to live forever, so what Hitler did to them will seem like nothing after they've lived a few hundred years. There's obviously way more to the Bible than this. If any of this doesn't make sense I'd be happy to explain more. By the way, I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jehovah Witness???. Yeah I could almost tell when you resulted to preaching. Word of advise don't ever preach to an atheist. spewing a lot of words from the bible. The bible doesn't make a whole lot of sense to an Atheist in the first place. when I speak back to you I may quote the bible coz that's the language you understand. QUOTING IT BACK TO ME IS JUST GIBBERISH. Not unless you quote an obvious fact like "DO TO OTHERS AS YOU LIKE THEM DO TO YOU". Some verses like that. Sermons on the mount or something. Have you ever read Genesis 3:22???. Go read it right now and tell me how it fits in that nonsensical story you have spewed in the essay above.
This is genuinely the guy who wrote a book thinking atheism needs faith, so he has no understanding of the topic. Morality is a huge problem for religion.
@@Mooskellunge That's a false dichotomy you've set up there. No, I haven't read it, but the title contains the nonsense that atheism requires faith, so would it really be worth reading? Also if you watch him try to defend it at talks in the Q&A he has nothing to back it up and is easily exposed.
He didn't answer a thing. Just made many assertions and focused on persecution in this incomplete video of the talk. Post the whole thing, otherwise this only begs more questions. Us Christians aren't the only ones who suffer evil ..so how does "we weren't told we'd be protected, we see we'll be persecuted" help those outside of the religion? Evil isn't just on the religious....evil doesn't care about all that, evil is a HUMAN problem in general. Animals deal with their own.
It's actually NOT that difficult to see how this fake conundrum came to be. "In the beginning" (of the career of human beings as a species), nothing was known about the world and our place in it, nothing was known in regard to the causes of events, everything was mysterious and terrifying - disease, natural disasters, lack of resources - we were just starting to figure things out from scratch. It's a natural human tendency to anthropomorphize, so it was only natural that we'd invent "gods" who were responsible for various phenomena, whom we could petition by various means to provide conditions that were favorable to human flourishing. Of course, since this was a misconstruing of the true causes behind perceived effects, it wasn't an effective "science" - people got what they asked for from their gods at a rate identical with what they'd have gotten if they'd left it to chance. Yet they'd invented the gods, so they had to invent reasons for being failed by them - and thus, in one of the worst moments ever in human history, the notion of "sin" was born. "We've offended the gods; it's OUR fault that disaster has befallen us." And thus we get all the elaborate systems of taboo and sacrifice that are still enshrined in religion. "How do we make it right with the gods? Let's give up the things that are most precious to us [e.g.], offer them to our gods, so that they'll protect and favor us." Hence desperate notions like that of the sacrifice of the first-born - "Here, take this one, and leave me the rest." This way of thinking is portrayed with startling clarity in the Hebrew Bible - Jerusalem is invaded and destroyed as a direct consequence of Israel having fallen away from God. Over and over again, all the disasters that befall the Israelites/Hebrews are attributed to their religious waywardness (rather than their obvious, to us, natural causes). They're in a constant state of guilt and shame, constantly excoriating themselves, constantly grovelling to the being they've made up to protect them, but who has let them down. Later, mingle this abhorrent concept with certain "pagan" notions of a demigod born of the congress of a god in animal form with a human female, and certain "mystery cult" concepts of a "savior" god who redeems mortals from their mortality, and you get Christianity - in which God offers his own "first born" as a sacrifice that vicariously saves all of mankind from sin and death, and grants them eternal life.
@@frajim29 How is relying on an imaginary being from a bit of ancient fiction 'more better' than sorting out reality for yourself and just dealing with it?
@@randallmiller3162 Unknown. That is the honest answer at this time. There are a number of hypothesis, some with more potential than others, but specifically? Unknown.
@@aaronpatrick9596 Good and evil are concepts developed by humans. Light and dark are different altogether. I was speaking for those who believe in the god of the bible. Their book says that their god created it (evil), the same way he did everything else. Hence, talking about the allowance thereof is a bit comical.
Keyser Soze evil is a choice we are given to make between good and bad. The choice is given because when God judges those who rejected the answer given to evil he will be justified. He has never “made” anyone believe in him. Evil comes from human choice to not acknowledge the creator and what’s good. The choice had to be given because of worship. You don’t worship what you don’t love and you have to chose to love.
I haven't made it this far yet, I still haven't got an answer to, how you get 8 million species of animals on that arc ? That's mathematically impossible .
Noah took 2 of every sort or kind...not 2 of every animal. Scientifically proven to be able to fit onto the dimensions of the ark as provided in the bible. In fact, there is a replica in Kentucky.
@@shaunmeyer8822 thanks; but it's was a question posed to see what the comment thinks a kind is since it seems to mean different things to different people
Two options, he's powerless to stop it or he is evil. There is no other logically coherent explanation, and Turek doesn't even touch on anything that could remotely be considered a relevant answer here.
@@pardwayneHow it if, instead of attacking this person's tone, you actually address the issues? I wonder if you do have anything worthwhile to bring to the conversation.
1:22 "There is no way I could even hardly summarize what's been written...." Followed by over 3min of shtick/plugging his website/book/TV program. And that, Ladies and Gents, is Snake Oil salesmanship. This guy....
hmm... spend the first 5 mins talking about his children that your salaries paid his tax exempt business. And silly jokes about cables vs direct tv... Thats right, preacher, win the crowds with humour...
You sound pretty miserable. I was so intrigued by how mad you were about this that I actually looked up how much time he spent... he spent 15 sec at 2:15 making a joke about his book/video. He then spend 2 minutes after talking about his family/sons, just telling people a little about his life. Is that so bad? The man talks for an hour long sermon can he spend a couple min mentioning his fam or making a joke as it relates to his narrative...?
I use to be an atheist mainly for this reasoning mostly along with the bible written by man etc etc. I came to learn I was x wrong on every aspect of my thinking. When Satan began to challenge god's rule . Btw. He didn't challenge his power he challenged his rule. He said he could rule the angels better than god. God could have just snapped his fingers and say be gone with you Lucifer. The only problem with that v would be left on the angels mind with what if Lucifer was right? Also they would serve out of fear and not love. So God said ok Lucifer show me. He gave him control of this world and since the beginning of time war after war. Government after government has failed. The world has become more evil with every passing generation. Well there are millions of angels watching this saga play out and they see that life without God is not good. They also see that Lucifer is failing at his endeavour to rule better than God. The end is near and God is getting ready to take back this world he designed to be inhabited forever.
Where in the bible is your Lucifer story?
supernaught1963 anyone with a brain cells will come to this conclusion
This sounds a lot like catharism
This is the dumbest story I have ever heard
He might want to take back control of the world a bit quicker, as we are getting very close to extinction through overpopulation and warfare. What exactly is he waiting for? Does disease, famine, war and natural disasters have to get any worse before he'll step in?
A great book on this topic is: CS Lewis' "The Problem of Pain."
I completely second your reference.
c.s.Lewis the guy who thought baptism saves,& wanted to go back to ROME??
@@morganclare4704 Cite the particular writing in which Professor Lewis stated that baptism is salvific and that as a member of the Anglican Church that he wanted to return to before the Henry VIII days??
@@MAPologeticsIPeter315 So much for that.
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I see a lot of atheist comments happy to see you’re searching!
More like trying to save others from irrational beliefs.
@@CMVMic It´s not rational to think that there was no designer to create us in the first place.
@@saltlight3404 its not rational to think that a mind has causal powers or that it is a substance that can create wholly distinct substances from nothing or that a mind can exist without a substance or that two distinct substances can interact.
@@CMVMicSupernatural means it doesn't follow all the laws of physics and chemistry, especially if it created the laws...
Also, how is it rational to think that a 3 billion line long code wrote itself?
@@shaunmeyer8822 the laws of nature are descriptive. If something doesnt obey the laws, it simply means the laws do not accurately describe reality. It is not evidence of an immaterial or spiritual realm. Also, a code wasnt written, it was formed as a result of causality. What code are you referring too?
The issue of objective morality and Christian faith in general is nicely and easily presented in the novel called "Adonai" by Arman Isayan, which could be especially helpful for younger people who struggle with the issue of faith
Where is the rest of this segment?
Jeremiah 5:19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, Wherefore doeth the Lord our God all these things unto us? then shalt thou answer them, Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's.
There are people suffering that have done nothing. Why punish person B for sins committed by person A? I was not there when adam was sinning. Humans are born as sinner Adam was not.
Not a leveled playing field.
@@4dchess-Eri You are not punish for Adam's sin, you are condemed for your sin.
@@jonathanhauhnar8434fuck sin
"Have you been persecuted yet for what you believe? If you haven't, maybe they don't know what you believe." Self-important, self-righteous, self-centered schlock.
I reccomend everyone to look up Ravi zacharias "why God allows Evil in this world" beautifully and well explained. God bless 🙏
Melissa Armenta god allows evil so he can save us and create a miracle? So simple minded
Provide link
He's doesn't exist
@@sokuralife Well, Ravi Zacharias died, but he did exist, and his videos still exist.
@@sokuralife what’s your evidence for that statement. There’s a lot of evidence that suggest he does ( listen to Frank ) actually there’s more evidence that he does than he doesnt. Like I said what’s your evidence that He doesn’t?
Health and wealth are still promised in the Bible (Abraham and David became rich, Jesus healed all of those who came to him), but yes, suffering is inevitable as well.
If a pastor promotes health and wealth, BUT emphasizes that health and wealth is only possible through Jesus AND ALSO reminds us that suffering and trials can still happen, I think their heart is still in the right place.
It's a matter of context and making sure that Jesus is still the priority of the message.
What's wrong is when pastors put health and wealth at the forefront and forget about Jesus and the inevitable suffering that sharing the Gospel brings (and even demand tithes to boot).
oh why do you cut the full video pls
Full video???
Took so long to get to the sermon (so much time spent on promoting the book/dvd) that I left the vid. Too bad. I wanted to share this with a friend.
Father gave me a waking vision of in the clouds, HE let me see how FEW of you have a relationship with Jesus. ALL were welcome but FEW showed up.
I'm trying to find a video of FT to send to a friend who recently lost her only child and is asking the above question.... I am dissapointed at how obvious it is that I can't share this video with her. The opening gave me hope, the follow up by Frank made my stomache turn at the thought. Any suggestions would be deeply appreciated.
She's just lost her child, why don't you just try and be there for her.
@@guardian100 Hey Captain Obvious, do you think I should have like..... gone to the viewing too? Or maybe grieved with her? I never thought of that. I don't know what I would have done without your wisdom and deep personal insight into my life. It's almost like you know me. However can I thank you?
Hi, it seems like guardian is just trying to encourage you to be present and not worry about saying the right thing. Because often times, there is nothing to say unless they are asking. When I lost my baby and more recently my brother, the last thing I would’ve wanted was someone to send me a video. What did matter was the people who cared to ask me about them and simply be there with me.
@@Dani-grace So, I guess I should have specified, she is asking me weekly. I am the only believer she knows. But as no one seems able to answer my question, it seems the modern Christian response is no response at all. I too, have experienced deep loss. I am not new to it, that is why my question has nothing to do with that and specifically pertained to recommendations for videos to share with her. I now understand why I am the only person she feels she will get and answer out of. 😂 seriously. Wow. The concern is for everything except where I declared the need.
The video starts at 5:30
Thank you :)
Thanks Gra
Doing the lords work. Thank you 🙏🏾
Thank you
I'm an atheist if god got exists than why does he let car crashes happen,terrorists attacks, and tornados why couldn't have just made earth a heaven
See the book, "When Healing Prayers Aren't Working - Spiritual Warfare for Real."
Like in the Garden of Eden? It was a paradise, and humans ruined it. Sin permeated the earth, and causes much pain and suffering, but people blame God for what ultimately humans caused.
free will
@@genesmith482 So, you’re suggesting that we believe the bible which is just a book that we all should just believe even though there is no evidence that anything in the bible is true.
@@animalloverjulian8243 But the crucifixion of Jesus is a fact even Brat an Atheist historian believes in it
*First monkey-human embryos reignite debate over hybrid animals*
Monkey-human embryos have been created. In April 2021, researchers fertilized eggs extracted from cynomolgus monkeys and grew them in culture. Six days after fertilization, the team injected 132 embryos with human pluripotent stem cells, which can grow into a range of cell types inside and outside an embryo. Wouldn't be possible if 'separate creation' was true, would it?
Many people pretending they know things that nobody knows.
How come you came to this knowdlege?
@@Christs_Apologet What created the universe? What happens when we die? The only truthful answer is nobody knows.
Interesting how some people think that we spawned out of the primordial goo and lightning. So how come we haven't be able to recreate it?
@Roscoe Coaltrane explain
What is the best book for this
If your parents exist, why do they allow you to live your own life as you see fit, and why do they allow you to make mistakes?
No, word of faith people say persecution is the only thing we must suffer if have faith
WOW -____-
Because he doesn’t exist.
Uhm... Mr. Turek... Jesus did say this: "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer." (Matthew 21:22)
Like statements we hear everyday from people, we look at the situation or context if we wish to have accurate determination. The quote in question is the last line of an occasion where Jesus was giving the disciples a picture of the (national) unbelief of Israel through the fig tree that would hence bear no more fruit. The disciples were marveled and puzzled so Jesus prophesied that they would take up a mountain and cast it into the sea. Again, this is a picture, not a literal, and it relates to the disciples "upending" Israel's religious establishment through the gospel. Finally He gave the 21:22 statement. The context already limits this statement about prayer to the disciples' relation to Israel and their (upcoming) promulgation of the gospel message to Israel. So it meant that they would have receptive help in all things they asked in relation to their ability to witness to Israel. Can't take quotes from the Bible, a politician, a textbook, or anywhere else without due consideration to the occasion of why something was said.
He did say that we can pray for God’s protection.
If man exist then why is there evil.
Because man exists.
@@evthrenancodina6512 and men need morals which is caused by faith and morality.
Okay then why is there so much suffering in the world?
Because he gave us a free will and we, people, are the ones that are making bad and evil choices
@@manuelasliskovic1043 what about people suffering from mental illness or other diseases? No one chooses that
@@danielbryan7619 fallen world and fallen people were not in perfect bodies
@@manuelasliskovic1043 can you please explain to me how babies who are not really able to make choices still get cancer?
@@realfishtacoboy God’s plan, I know it doesn’t sound reasonable enough but it that’s the only explanation
Yeah so Jesus does protect us and answers our prayers.. he commands his angels over us to guard us in all of our ways so we don’t strike our foot against a stone. He may allow a period of testing of our faith where negative things might happen. But all of the Bible heroes had a happy ending
Problem was that he was executed a long time ago
Did all of the Apostles have a happy ending? Did Moses, Sampson, Solomon, most of the OT prophets, Daniel, all have a happy ending, Jesus, no.
did u watch the video... 11:20
All of the apostles were Martyred. What Bible did you read?
My wif is the best example of a saint.
Aw 🥺
Video starts at 4:38
the first 4 min 30 seconds is a big commercial, get to the point of the video already.
It's at 4:38
Adam and Eve were chased out of garden for exercising their free will.
Is evil necessary?
No..but for his argument yes
Did you ever read, Job?
Set aside some traditional beliefs you have if you want to understand why evil exists.
Almost all Christians think that God is in control of everything that happens here on earth, but he isn't:
1 John 5:19: ...the whole world is under the control of the EVIL ONE.
God gave authority in the earth to Adam. Adam gave it to Satan, Jesus got it back and gave it to man again. God is on the outside looking in. God can't do anything on the earth unless he has a man's authority to work through. Why do you think he had to send Jesus, a MAN? If he could just do anything, which he can't, why didn't he just flip his finger and solve the sin problem without sending Jesus?
And almost all Christians believe that everything that happens to them is God's will. Does God's will always happen on the Earth? No. God doesn't want people to perish and go to hell, but it's happening against his will:
2 Peter 3:8-10: The Lord is ... not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Even Jesus said, "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." That shows you that God's will is being performed in heaven but not completely on the earth yet.
Just think logical, in John 10:10 Jesus said the 'thief' comes to Kill, Steal, and Destroy But I have come to give you Life To The Full! Does "life to the full" sound like the evil of child abuse, rape, murder, kidnapping, cancer, etc.? No way!!! Jesus wants the BEST for us, "Life To The Full!!!"
There is a "Doctrine of Demons" and it teaches that God is in control of everything, meaning sickness, disease, and accidents as well. But we can see from the above scriptures that this is not true. Evil exists because God gave authority of this earth to Adam, who, in turn, gave it to the evil one. We, mankind, ultimately, and thanks to Jesus, ended up with that authority. But we still Satan and demons as enemies that we have to use it against. Most Christians don't even know that they have this authority.
Satan, demons, man's free will, and physics are causing the pain and suffering! Jesus gave us the authority to be kings and conquerors here on earth, we are to use that authority against evil instead of sitting back and blaming God for these misfortunes.
Some people are so confused that they think that these misfortunes are BLESSINGS from God to humble us or teach us something. Wow, that's a totally unbiblical view of God's character. How is that 35 year old man that died of cancer going to put into practice whatever it was that God was, supposedly, teaching him?
If you really want it laid out clear, see the book, "When Healing Prayers Aren't Working - Spiritual Warfare for Real."
Well said & amen, Gene Smith ! The Lord blessed me with this realization a few years ago thru anointed Bible preachers, including Andrew Wommack & Pastor Dilkumar. How very timely, since my family & I needed Healing big time. When Jesus moves me to pray, & it seems Impossible ..Lord Jesus reminds me "I already Finished this on the Cross !" So I speak to the mountain, & it moves ! He commanded us to believe & obey .. heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out the demons. He promised to do everything we ask, that His Father might be glorified in the Son. Faithful is He who calls, & He will Do !
I've experienced Thousands of Miracles of healing & rescue .. It has already been bound .. or loosed in Heaven. The only possible barrier is Sin .. someone else's or Mine. All the more reason to keep myself close to our Savior, & Pure .. to fall on my knees & repent my smallest deviance, or wavering unbelief .. which He is faithful & just to forgive & cleanse, + Heal. He then leads me out Again, to do battle with the enemies of Life & Godliness .. the Real adversaries of our soul & body, our Life & Peace .. here & hereafter.
I believe we are called to share in his Glory & Virtue: we've a responsibility to uphold & defend His Righteousness, Mercy, & Truth. Jesus, as Captain of the Lord's Army, enlists Us with Timothy to be His comrades in arms .. You & I are commissioned, not as mere citizens of His Kingdom of Right & Good, but as Guardians of the Realm .. over our brothers' & sisters' Well Being, at Jesus' behest: not in our own care & power, but by the Blood of his Cross, & his Resurrection to Life. Heaven & they .. now count on Us.
So .. when some Calamity befalls, & people ask: How could God let this Happen ? .. I ask: How could believing Christians .. Children & Soldiers of the Living God .. Let this Happen ? ... especially how have I fallen short ? God grant me Grace to be sensitive & responsible to Him, vigilant & zealous for his beloved Saints ( present & prospective) .. courageously engaged in the redemptive cause of our Good Shepherd.
The gates of Hell cannot prevail against the Ekklesia of Holy God .. if his Children might thru us yet hear his entire Gospel truth, repent our complacency (unwitting or not) & Grow up into our High Calling !
I thank Heaven, Gene, for your Caring & Faithful endeavor, to clarify & magnify his empowering Word, his holy Will, & his sure Promises. I welcome your comment as my Encouragement, straight from my Lord !
I will read your Book, & revivify my own efforts, to be a more strong & true Soldier, a trustworthy Guardian of His glorious Realm .. in bold caring Prayers, in every courageous Deed .. as ordained for me, by Him.
Heaven bless, keep, & prosper You dear Brother ! .. Kenny from Scarborough .. littlerodge@gmail.com
To belive God is not sovereign is heresey... look at Job
@@mrhernandez8256 you're right God let satan attack job Satan couldn't do it without Gods permission
Opinion...opinion...opinion...
Answer a question by plugging your book. Classy.
Nothing can exist without it's opposite.
The irony of someone saying I don't have enough FAITH to be an ATHIEST...I WOULD TELL THEM A THIEST WITH OUT ENOUGH FAITH TO MOVE AN A OVER ONE SPACE TO THE RIGHT, THEN YOUR FAITH IS WORTHLESS
This is "sophistry" at its best.
Respectfully I must say this topic reveals no answers or truth
If u guys say well god can't control everything well god made the universe is what you say so if he made the universe why can't he make it so he controls the universe
Someone complaining about evil without an objective basis of morality is very absurd. It is like a person who says the building was built wrong without having a blue print.
It's an internal critique, you don't need an objective basis for evil to point out someone is inconsistent within their own theology.
@@drrickmarshall1191 if there is no basis, then everything is just a matter of preference.
@@stephencastro4723 That's redundant to my comment. To use your analogy, it's like pointing out your blueprint is impossible to build.
@@drrickmarshall1191 but surely the assertion that there is evil implies that the blueprint is not impossible to build
Short answer: not because of free will
Because he wants to glorify himself
(but apparently not in a selfish way because of the Trinity)
@Julian Ruiz Olmos okay calvinist
This life is just a test for the next life we shall have in eternity in heaven.
amen and amen the more i live the more this becomes true!
If God has all control over evil how come he doesnt kill satan and destroy all evil why huh???
Gift of free wil
He has set the time aside to do that. The time when it will be of most benefit and allow the most people to come to Him.
Religion poisons everything - Christopher Hitchens
That's an over simplified idea.
There is no objective moral standard. Moral Realism is completely false. You require alot more faith to be a theist, than to be an atheist. You have to believe minds are substances that exist unembodied that speak and has magical powers that create distinct substances out of literal nothingness. Energy, space did not come into existence. also, no you dont need a programmer for their to be order or causality and functionalism explains what life, the mind and consciousness is. They are simply a set of functions. Laws are not immaterial, they are products of changes that substances undergo.
"Why does God allow evil"?
Because he's allowing us humans to try and do things our own way without him, but we're failing miserable.
Once God is satisfied that we've learned the lesson that we can't live without him,
he'll step in and completely stop all evil and undo all injustices and bring everyone back to life,
and then he'll say, "Ok now lets try it my way."
I like your reasoning. This is a tough one. No christian or religious person can make a logical argument for this. I think of the Jews that died in AUSCHWITZ and all the other camps. How they must have prayed. Ironically God had a reason to intervene during the construction of the tower of Babylon but not on this occasion???.
Tom Foolish When i say God will undo all injustices i mean he will bring back to life everyone who has died, including those who died in Auschwitz, for a chance to live again right here on earth. Everything i say can be backed by scriptures if you'd like to see it.
The scriptures say that??. They shall be brought back??.
Superman and batman - the Hollywood fictional figures would not have let Hitler get away with it. Despite their meager powers compared to the almighty God. In summary :-
Is God unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful.
Is God able but unwilling to prevent evil, then he is not all-good.
Is God both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?
If you can logically answer those questions then you can convert me to Christianity or a believer in deities. While you are at it read GENESIS 3:22 and explain to me what type of a petty God this is.
@Tom Foolish.. I'm glad you mentioned the story in Genesis because that is the reason God allows evil, death and suffering.
God made Adam and Eve without blemish meaning they would have never got sick, grew old or died.
But he also gave them free will to choose to obey and love him or not.
If they were forced to obey and love him then they wouldn't have free will
and the love wouldn't have meant anything.
The tree in the Garden of Eden was a test of their free will. It represented God's right to be ruler and he is the only person who can rightly say what is right and wrong since he created us. God laid one command on Adam and Eve and warned them that they would "positively die" if they ate from the tree. When Satan deceived Eve through a snake,
and Adam and Eve ate from the tree, all 3 of them raised the issue that God doesn't have the right to be ruler. Old age and death was caused by Adam and Eve when they disobeyed because they now passed that imperfection on to everyone else. God could have just wiped them out and started over with 2 new humans, but that wouldn't have settle the issue. So God basically said "OK, you think you can live without my guidance? I'll allow time to let you try." But when we look back through history, we can see humans have failed at governing themselves and humans have caused much of the suffering in the world. The day that they disobeyed, God set a plan in motion to undo what they did. Thats where Jesus comes in. He came to get back what Adam had lost for us humans. The day is coming soon when God and Jesus will undo death, suffering and all of mans problems.
Anyone who has died for any reason will be brought back to life on earth for a chance to live again,
including sinners.
(Psalm 37:29; Acts 24:15; John 5:28+29)
God didn't create evil. Its the result of free will.
So God is able to prevent evil he just chooses not to right now
and he knows he easily can undo all of the injustices evil has caused.
God is also willing to prevent evil because he has promised to end evil once he is satisfied that we have
learned our lesson that we can't live without him.
God has also stopped evil in the past with the Flood and at Sodom and Gomorrah.
So now, how do people like Hitler fit into all of this?
The Bible doesn't say exactly who will be brought back to life.
Only Jesus will decide who is worthy of a second chance.
It would seem to us that someone like Hitler isn't worthy, but we have to leave it to Jesus to decide.
If Jesus decides not to resurrect him, he will be erased from existence.
Either way, *all* of the people he killed or people like him killed,
will be brought back to life in a new body. They will all have a chance to live forever,
so what Hitler did to them will seem like nothing after they've lived a few hundred years.
There's obviously way more to the Bible than this.
If any of this doesn't make sense I'd be happy to explain more.
By the way, I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Jehovah Witness???. Yeah I could almost tell when you resulted to preaching. Word of advise don't ever preach to an atheist. spewing a lot of words from the bible. The bible doesn't make a whole lot of sense to an Atheist in the first place. when I speak back to you I may quote the bible coz that's the language you understand. QUOTING IT BACK TO ME IS JUST GIBBERISH. Not unless you quote an obvious fact like "DO TO OTHERS AS YOU LIKE THEM DO TO YOU". Some verses like that. Sermons on the mount or something. Have you ever read Genesis 3:22???. Go read it right now and tell me how it fits in that nonsensical story you have spewed in the essay above.
Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
The ancient hebrew translation is not actually "evil" but calamity. 'who makes peace, and makes calamity;'
Romans 12:21
Trust in Jesus
This is genuinely the guy who wrote a book thinking atheism needs faith, so he has no understanding of the topic. Morality is a huge problem for religion.
So did you actually read the book or are you basing the content PURELY off the title?
@@Mooskellunge That's a false dichotomy you've set up there. No, I haven't read it, but the title contains the nonsense that atheism requires faith, so would it really be worth reading? Also if you watch him try to defend it at talks in the Q&A he has nothing to back it up and is easily exposed.
What? He didn't even answer...
Such mental gymnastics
morality is not objective
Why do you say that?
@@saltlight3404some cultures think it's perfectly fine to put robes on women's entire bodies so the men don't sin.
the god cant get rid of evil though he created it.
@Marjore Dixon do u know the evil
(satan) is a creature? it is a human race, do u konw that? who, why did create the devil? can u tell me ?
What Christian brags about his sons being trained to kill?
cruelsuit1: one that knows God said not to murder, never said not to kill. I.e. See justification
@@robertjayroe9900 Yup. As long as its not Christians. Its fine.
He didn't answer a thing. Just made many assertions and focused on persecution in this incomplete video of the talk. Post the whole thing, otherwise this only begs more questions. Us Christians aren't the only ones who suffer evil ..so how does "we weren't told we'd be protected, we see we'll be persecuted" help those outside of the religion? Evil isn't just on the religious....evil doesn't care about all that, evil is a HUMAN problem in general. Animals deal with their own.
It's actually NOT that difficult to see how this fake conundrum came to be. "In the beginning" (of the career of human beings as a species), nothing was known about the world and our place in it, nothing was known in regard to the causes of events, everything was mysterious and terrifying - disease, natural disasters, lack of resources - we were just starting to figure things out from scratch. It's a natural human tendency to anthropomorphize, so it was only natural that we'd invent "gods" who were responsible for various phenomena, whom we could petition by various means to provide conditions that were favorable to human flourishing.
Of course, since this was a misconstruing of the true causes behind perceived effects, it wasn't an effective "science" - people got what they asked for from their gods at a rate identical with what they'd have gotten if they'd left it to chance. Yet they'd invented the gods, so they had to invent reasons for being failed by them - and thus, in one of the worst moments ever in human history, the notion of "sin" was born. "We've offended the gods; it's OUR fault that disaster has befallen us." And thus we get all the elaborate systems of taboo and sacrifice that are still enshrined in religion. "How do we make it right with the gods? Let's give up the things that are most precious to us [e.g.], offer them to our gods, so that they'll protect and favor us." Hence desperate notions like that of the sacrifice of the first-born - "Here, take this one, and leave me the rest."
This way of thinking is portrayed with startling clarity in the Hebrew Bible - Jerusalem is invaded and destroyed as a direct consequence of Israel having fallen away from God. Over and over again, all the disasters that befall the Israelites/Hebrews are attributed to their religious waywardness (rather than their obvious, to us, natural causes). They're in a constant state of guilt and shame, constantly excoriating themselves, constantly grovelling to the being they've made up to protect them, but who has let them down.
Later, mingle this abhorrent concept with certain "pagan" notions of a demigod born of the congress of a god in animal form with a human female, and certain "mystery cult" concepts of a "savior" god who redeems mortals from their mortality, and you get Christianity - in which God offers his own "first born" as a sacrifice that vicariously saves all of mankind from sin and death, and grants them eternal life.
Turn to Christ, Best thing that could have happened to me. Nothing more better than to be connected to God
@@frajim29 How is relying on an imaginary being from a bit of ancient fiction 'more better' than sorting out reality for yourself and just dealing with it?
@@avi8r66 Ok, lets start with basic questions. So how did the universe start?
@@randallmiller3162 Unknown. That is the honest answer at this time. There are a number of hypothesis, some with more potential than others, but specifically? Unknown.
@@randallmiller3162 how a conversation works... you speak, me speak, back and forth. I did my part, waiting for you.
Yes persecution happens but Jesus will give us the victory in our battles and help us win our battles.
If the god mentioned exists, he created everything, including evil. He’s either all good or all powerful, but not both.
Well said
Evil is not thing. It’s the absence of Good. The same way darkness is only the absence of light. Selah
@@aaronpatrick9596 Good and evil are concepts developed by humans. Light and dark are different altogether. I was speaking for those who believe in the god of the bible. Their book says that their god created it (evil), the same way he did everything else. Hence, talking about the allowance thereof is a bit comical.
Keyser Soze evil is a choice we are given to make between good and bad. The choice is given because when God judges those who rejected the answer given to evil he will be justified. He has never “made” anyone believe in him. Evil comes from human choice to not acknowledge the creator and what’s good. The choice had to be given because of worship. You don’t worship what you don’t love and you have to chose to love.
@@aaronpatrick9596 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
This is absolute nonsense
I never laugh and he made me laugh about needed kids his kids 😜😜
I haven't made it this far yet, I still haven't got an answer to, how you get 8 million species of animals on that arc ? That's mathematically impossible .
Noah took 2 of every sort or kind...not 2 of every animal. Scientifically proven to be able to fit onto the dimensions of the ark as provided in the bible. In fact, there is a replica in Kentucky.
not species but kinds all dogs had the same origin he took two of each kind not species
@@iliaelija7329 What is a kind?
@@Brayslayera dog, but there are many species of dogs
@@shaunmeyer8822 thanks; but it's was a question posed to see what the comment thinks a kind is since it seems to mean different things to different people
Two options, he's powerless to stop it or he is evil.
There is no other logically coherent explanation, and Turek doesn't even touch on anything that could remotely be considered a relevant answer here.
Those are not the only two options.
@@spacenie Pray tell
Considering your tone, nobody owes you an explanation.
@@pardwayne Appreciate you proving my point.
@@pardwayneHow it if, instead of attacking this person's tone, you actually address the issues? I wonder if you do have anything worthwhile to bring to the conversation.
All assumptions😂😂
This is all explained in the Book of Mormon 2 Nephi Chapter 2. Well done!
He needs new jokes…haha…says the same things for every talk.
Franks universe is created by nasa.... his universe is not biblical...
What is evil? The first 5 minutes of your talk, hawking books, DVDs, and radio shows. promoting your need to garner as much money as possibe
1:22 "There is no way I could even hardly summarize what's been written...." Followed by over 3min of shtick/plugging his website/book/TV program. And that, Ladies and Gents, is Snake Oil salesmanship. This guy....
'cause he doesn't exist.
Thiis guy is a TOOL
So are you for making such a comment and being so judgmental.
@@dominickbundy6429 just a observation of character
@@markaponte7057 I am not agreeing with everything he’s says, but he gives food for thought and deserves credit for that.
@@dominickbundy6429 hurling insults, what a model Christian you must be 👍
@@sweeneytodd8318 Thank you, I try to be.
hmm... spend the first 5 mins talking about his children that your salaries paid his tax exempt business. And silly jokes about cables vs direct tv... Thats right, preacher, win the crowds with humour...
You sound pretty miserable. I was so intrigued by how mad you were about this that I actually looked up how much time he spent... he spent 15 sec at 2:15 making a joke about his book/video. He then spend 2 minutes after talking about his family/sons, just telling people a little about his life. Is that so bad? The man talks for an hour long sermon can he spend a couple min mentioning his fam or making a joke as it relates to his narrative...?
Because he hates you.
What a flat out conman this grifter is!!!!
8:52 99.99% of the universe is incapable of sustaining life
Religion, fast-talking for the slow thinkers. This dude is a well-meaning snake oil salesman
Nice ad hominem. Got an actual argument for why?