DH OTK MORE BROKEN Than Patron Warrior??? ft. Firebat | Zalae Hearthstone | Ashes of Outland

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @charly1711
    @charly1711 4 года назад +89

    I guess they removed unexpected damage, card draw and silence from neutrals to give all of it to DH.

  • @DarkJak
    @DarkJak 4 года назад +136

    Outcasts are interesting at a distance,
    then they start rustling through their bag and everyone runs...

    • @Tonpotelepecheur
      @Tonpotelepecheur 4 года назад

      The DH is too strong dude, i've just seen this funny video about it : ruclips.net/video/uNI0ul5rnNE/видео.html

    • @danang5
      @danang5 4 года назад +1

      the mechanic itself is fine,the execution is not

  • @isaacbisutti6417
    @isaacbisutti6417 4 года назад +211

    feels like a wild deck

    • @cheesypotato9187
      @cheesypotato9187 4 года назад +5

      not broken enough

    • @WMDistraction
      @WMDistraction 4 года назад +1

      Actually accurate comment about Wild? In *my* Hearthstone RUclips channel? It’s more common than you think...

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +1

      @@WMDistraction *GolDeN cOmMoN!!!*

    • @prussia9255
      @prussia9255 4 года назад

      Odd Demon Hunter might be viable in wild

    • @ianzen
      @ianzen 4 года назад

      Prussia Ball pretty weak, sort of like an odd rogue variant.

  • @MrCbrnsoldier
    @MrCbrnsoldier 4 года назад +92

    That was fun and interactive for the opponent lol

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +3

      I mean, interactions included emoting or conceding... good enough. Kappa

  • @teamredshirt
    @teamredshirt 4 года назад +60

    “Playing minions seems really stupid unless they burst your opponent for lethal in one turn.”
    Yes Zalae, I too miss Leroy+PO+Faceless.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +2

      I like the hyper-competitive mindset. No BS here.

  • @user-fu7no1xu5b
    @user-fu7no1xu5b 4 года назад +42

    Best thing is if you swap out Zephrys and the 4 mana 3/5 legendary for random cards this deck is only like 400 dust.

    • @94alibey
      @94alibey 4 года назад +2

      Last list doesnt even play the 3/5 it does have metamorphosis tho

    • @IvyDoomsday
      @IvyDoomsday 4 года назад +9

      imagine not insta crafting zephrys and dragonqueen since highlander is a powerful deck

    • @swiftdragonrider
      @swiftdragonrider 4 года назад +12

      @@IvyDoomsday imagine just starting hs and crafting this day one for basically free.

  • @Krackatoa
    @Krackatoa 4 года назад +79

    "This is where you hit him for 30"

  • @roykeane1922
    @roykeane1922 4 года назад +66

    Has the feel of Kingsbane rogue, I suspect it will not last very long. It’s a very strange time in Hearthstone. One of the core skill components of the game, trading, has become almost obsolete

    • @tahaanzar123
      @tahaanzar123 4 года назад

      Cam will probably get nerfed soon so yeah won’t last too long

    • @ToPaTsu
      @ToPaTsu 4 года назад +9

      Trading has been obsolete multiple times in hearthstone.

    • @matthewmazzatto8003
      @matthewmazzatto8003 4 года назад +8

      Multiple cards need to be nerfed. Skull of Gul'dan is public enemy #1, but the other Outcast draw cards (CSR and Spectral Sight) and Twin Slice are also very problematic. The 1 Mana Silence (that also cycles) and anti-Taunt Legendary are just insurance. This combo deck doesn't even use other busted DH cards like Antaen, Priestess of Fury, Battlefiend, the 4/2 Satyr that directly powercreeps Hench-Clan Thug, and quite a few more crazy cards. Demon Hunter can literally do everything besides hard removal.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +1

      It's just what good decks do. Breaking as many rules of the game as possible. They're going to beat any deck that has the game plan of "play dudes then hit the face with them" a lot of the time.

    • @Oysteriod
      @Oysteriod 4 года назад

      It’s not even been a full day let’s hold off on calling things busted

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +102

    Who needs Auctioneer any more? Every card is free lul.

    • @gutts4208
      @gutts4208 4 года назад

      Auctioneer is a boomer card

  • @kjlh9
    @kjlh9 4 года назад +30

    played 34 games of this deck. 74% wr and ended at 1400~ legend. seems balanced

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +36

    I chuckle at anyone who called Inner Demon "onestar" now.

    • @logandevine8243
      @logandevine8243 4 года назад +2

      Only when you can play it for 0 Mana. Kael'thas gets removed or nerfed to costs 1 Mana instead of 0.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад

      @@logandevine8243 A W is a W.

    • @azure5584
      @azure5584 4 года назад

      It very much is without Kael'thas.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +3

      @@azure5584 Good thing they're in the game at the same time now and that that was part of my evaluation because why wouldn't it be.

    • @andreiradu7851
      @andreiradu7851 4 года назад +5

      @@azure5584 but they're in the same set, why would you evaluate a card out of context. "0 cost weak cards are weak without something to enable them" oh really? how did you figure that one out.

  • @impp18
    @impp18 4 года назад +41

    When the face plays taunt.....

    • @Roxanneredpanda
      @Roxanneredpanda 4 года назад +8

      Me still go face

    • @sunnydlite-t8b
      @sunnydlite-t8b 4 года назад +17

      Be nice to people? Turn 7 lethal?

    • @matteobarca1050
      @matteobarca1050 4 года назад +2

      Thanks to his legendary, there's no taunt for dh

    • @melgibsonero
      @melgibsonero 4 года назад +3

      Taunt is cheat and DH is the anti-cheat

  • @Hyzayn
    @Hyzayn 4 года назад +12

    I played DH firebat's deck, with a few changes I made, from diamond 5 to legend, and got around 85% WR and went like 23-5. Balanced class

    • @kevinnathaniel9231
      @kevinnathaniel9231 4 года назад +3

      can you send me your deck code? thanks would appreciate it!

    • @mikepricethree
      @mikepricethree 4 года назад

      Exact same here, got The Beast for my free classic legendary FeelsWeirdMan

    • @Bruh-el9js
      @Bruh-el9js 4 года назад

      @@kevinnathaniel9231 I also want it

    • @pokugrf4000
      @pokugrf4000 4 года назад +1

      If you're sharing HMU

    • @Hyzayn
      @Hyzayn 4 года назад

      AAECAea5Ax78owORsQOHugOLugPJugPMugPXuwOcvAPDvAPgvAOZvQPWvgPmvgPtvgOEwwP3wwO6xgPHxgPZxgPaxgPVyAPXyAP3yAP+yAP/yAOcyQPZ0wPb0wPd0wP41gMAAA==
      Here it is, if i recall correctly i took out the 7 mana weapon and put twin slice and changed the 2-1 1 drop for the 2-2. These changes were made to help with the early game board because of the face DH decks. The 2-1 got killed all the time by a slice or a simple hero power, and the 2-2 got the chance to trade way more often. The weapon was just rotting in hand most of the games.

  • @nefariousnilbog
    @nefariousnilbog 4 года назад +1

    Was watching this stream with gallon and firebat. The combo variant is just ridiculously powerful

  • @TheDeerInTheHeadligh
    @TheDeerInTheHeadligh 4 года назад +4

    made this deck as soon as i saw your list on twitter. it's got a learning curve but i'm getting better at it. and pulling wins out of your ass at the last minute never gets old

  • @CatGeneralX
    @CatGeneralX 4 года назад +22

    I remember hearing that when Blizzard adds a new hero to Overwatch, they make them purposely overpowered to in crease the amount of initial players, then nerf them later into a reasonable state. I’m pretty sure that the Hearthstone team took a page out of Jeff Kaplan’s book on this one.

    • @goggers
      @goggers 4 года назад +9

      CatGeneralX most mobas also do this, since first impressions count into a character's overall usage

    • @IvyDoomsday
      @IvyDoomsday 4 года назад +3

      more like you cant add something brand new into the game that is worse than what already exists otherwise nobody will play the new thing. nobody is going to willingly handicap themselves when you can just play the fun powerful stuff

    • @Maltesfilm
      @Maltesfilm 4 года назад

      They do the same thing in Hots, i think it also helps convince people to pay for new broken hero.

    • @2LettersSho
      @2LettersSho 4 года назад

      Big deal in League too, but it takes Riot a long time to figure out what a "reasonable state" is and they usually buff everything else in the meantime :D

    • @plus9775
      @plus9775 4 года назад

      @@IvyDoomsday you could also just add things that are well balanced? Wait were talking about blizzard lmao, they can't print anything decent to save their life.

  • @ZombieMonkey7
    @ZombieMonkey7 4 года назад +24

    Playing this against Priest (or any class that isn't DH) feels so helpless and winning feels impossible. I know this is just day one, but Jesus Christ...

    • @clarity5064
      @clarity5064 4 года назад +3

      ZombieMonkey7 ah, a fellow man of culture.

    • @TheAusar
      @TheAusar 4 года назад

      Remember Galakrond Shaman?

    • @will1603
      @will1603 4 года назад +5

      Wait are you saying this can only beat demon hunter?

    • @zolo-p3p
      @zolo-p3p 4 года назад +2

      @@will1603 priest taunt spam wins

    • @klaus1352
      @klaus1352 4 года назад +2

      @@zolo-p3p that deck doesn't work lol. They just play the usual combo to gain 25 attack and then they play Kayne since they have 4 Mana left over so they ignore all taunt. You can't counter this deck by gaining health or by playing taunt. It's very interactive. I've played both sides of the matchup at high ranks and it's an easy win for DH

  • @urias134
    @urias134 4 года назад +7

    I can feel the vengeance

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +26

    Finally, more combo in HS... If only they gave people ways to counter the archetype instead of butchering it every time it popped up.

    • @swiftdragonrider
      @swiftdragonrider 4 года назад +5

      The problem with interaction against combo is it also hurts fair decks.

    • @2LettersSho
      @2LettersSho 4 года назад +3

      @@swiftdragonrider And/or it's bad against non-combo decks so often not worth the slots. Such is the way of a game without sideboarding.

    • @swiftdragonrider
      @swiftdragonrider 4 года назад +2

      @@2LettersSho yea i actually hate most tech cards they print because they are almost always super backbreaking when drawn leading to swingy games. did you draw you ghist/crab? you win didnt? you lose.

    • @WhatMikeisEvolving1
      @WhatMikeisEvolving1 4 года назад

      The counter to combo should be killing them faster than they can get the combo off or getting out of range of their burst. Both are possible already so who knows if they're will be a counter to this soon

    • @swiftdragonrider
      @swiftdragonrider 4 года назад

      @@WhatMikeisEvolving1 they nerfed it already omega lol. i healed for 20+ on average before nerf.

  • @SkipperinoHS
    @SkipperinoHS 4 года назад +12

    0:12 Skipperino zalaerino

    • @patrikpass2962
      @patrikpass2962 4 года назад +1

      Hi m8. What do you think about kripp always playing bg now? I think its sad.

  • @nathanaelwright9196
    @nathanaelwright9196 4 года назад +6

    *laughs nervously*

  • @Sam-es2gf
    @Sam-es2gf 4 года назад +6

    "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b" has Firebat considered moving to CS:GO? He's a natural.

  • @sator_project
    @sator_project 4 года назад +4

    Rogue's looking good

  • @TheIvasyl
    @TheIvasyl 4 года назад

    It's much better than I think
    -- Firebat, 2020

  • @Robert-xt7sn
    @Robert-xt7sn 4 года назад +1

    Really gotta try this deck. Blizzard was kind enough to just give us most of it for free, too. Very generous

    • @copyrightstrike4666
      @copyrightstrike4666 4 года назад

      It's getting nerfed for sure but yeah, grab your easy legend while you can

  • @C1umsyJester
    @C1umsyJester 4 года назад

    I’ve been playing a very similar deck the second the expansion dropped and consistently get turn 6-8 otk lethal. It’s kinda nutty

  • @ML-mx3mm
    @ML-mx3mm 4 года назад +2

    The bell will never cease to amuse me 🛎 🛎 🛎
    DH is absolutely disgusting though. Go to HSreplay and sort by deck win rate. I’ve been playing since closed beta and never seen something this broken. Not even close.

    • @bobbysnobby
      @bobbysnobby 4 года назад

      Death dealers was a far stronger deck than any dh deck, but that's hardly a standard of success that deck had a 80% plus winrate against the non mirror field

  • @tvftw1
    @tvftw1 4 года назад +1

    15 cards played that last turn

  • @SuzakuX
    @SuzakuX 4 года назад

    This looks like it might be a bit better than the version I made, which is a bit more control-oriented with board clears and no neutral draw. Since not many people are running taunt, you can often ignore the board I suppose.

  • @elidodd5339
    @elidodd5339 4 года назад

    4:20 did anybody catch that when Zalae moused over the taunt, it broke? Like a silence effect visual

    • @WhatMikeisEvolving1
      @WhatMikeisEvolving1 4 года назад +1

      It's due to how Kain sunfury works. The opponent killed Kain right after he moused over the taunt and cause the taunt to reappear (the "break" effect was the taunt reapplying)

  • @trucid2
    @trucid2 4 года назад

    That's a lotta damage.

  • @dylaniehl5831
    @dylaniehl5831 4 года назад +2

    I was thinking about trying the game again for the first time in a year. I think I'll pass now

  • @archonhawk1151
    @archonhawk1151 4 года назад +1

    So much balance work needs to be done for DH, awesome class though

    • @Roxanneredpanda
      @Roxanneredpanda 4 года назад

      I'm just scared this will screw over the chance of seeing more new heros

    • @zolo-p3p
      @zolo-p3p 4 года назад

      @LycanVonWolf the combo is not as easy as it seems trust me men

  • @zorkman56
    @zorkman56 4 года назад

    Wow DemonHunter stone

  • @StrengthOfADragon13
    @StrengthOfADragon13 4 года назад

    I climbed from gold to diamond using otk demon hunter, it's very different but once you figure it out it's the nuts

  • @Sephiko
    @Sephiko 4 года назад +1

    If this takes off, time to craft Bulwark.

    • @Authoity4576
      @Authoity4576 4 года назад

      altruis hard counters bulwark

    • @Sephiko
      @Sephiko 4 года назад +1

      @@Authoity4576 Dang. Guess I won't have any hopes or ambitions.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад

      Don't craft Bulwark, it's ass.

    • @SuzakuX
      @SuzakuX 4 года назад +2

      Not only Altruis, but Oozes, which are going to be run a lot due to DH, Hunter, Rogue, and Galakrond decks at the very least being prominent.

  • @jicoby1998
    @jicoby1998 4 года назад

    Playing against demon hunter feels like playing against one of the boss fights where they have broken cards and hero powers.

  • @DeadAhead710
    @DeadAhead710 4 года назад +11

    Decklist?

    • @tobbi9589
      @tobbi9589 4 года назад +11

      Andrew Gef AAECAea5AwT8owOuugPMugPDvAMN+wGcAoe6A9e7A+C8A7rGA8fGA9nGA9TIA9XIA/LJA9vTA93TAwA= this is my own i made from looking at the video and following the 2nd game he played where he drew all the cards, i might have missed one or two, but think this is it. Hope that helped (i was gonna use it myself so might aswell give u it)

  • @pockit5107
    @pockit5107 4 года назад

    I felt sick to my stomach watching that last OTK.

  • @Lekolo408
    @Lekolo408 4 года назад +1

    Disgusting. Glad to see interaction is something the hearthstone team clearly cares about /s

  • @liquidwater1133
    @liquidwater1133 4 года назад

    When youre in diamond 6 and trying to climb latter with a REAL DECK AND PLAY AGANST A 5 6EAR OLD WITH A DH DECK AND THEY SAY YOU ARE NOT PREPARED AND YOU WANNA DIE! *cough* I mean of course I love demon hunter

  • @aidanshirey1702
    @aidanshirey1702 4 года назад

    this is playable without thalnos right??

  • @tristanwickern6680
    @tristanwickern6680 4 года назад

    anyone have the deck code?

  • @shigerou16
    @shigerou16 4 года назад

    I refuse to play ladder till this shit gets fixed, does anyone play test these expansions anymore???

  • @AeQuitaS28
    @AeQuitaS28 4 года назад

    Is Zephrys just that good?
    To run in this deck of all 2 ofs.

    • @ethanclayton9562
      @ethanclayton9562 4 года назад

      Plenty of fast decks run Zephrys with rest 2 ofs. It just gives them a last bit of burst if they're short damage.

    • @Insanara
      @Insanara 4 года назад +1

      It's a deck that draws very fast, so running 2ofs is less of a hindrance. In case of the last game, he could use it as a combo piece to give him the pyro for extra 10 damage for 0 mana.
      It's probably worth it, but you want to mulligan it out of hand.

    • @AeQuitaS28
      @AeQuitaS28 4 года назад +1

      Replace Zephrys with Weapon removal.
      Much more useful right now

    • @karllambert713
      @karllambert713 4 года назад +2

      Zephyrs is the nuts against any control deck play zephyrs with a little bit of attack already on your hero have 5 mana left get the doomhamer then hit them for 44

  • @user-rg4qi3sl6s
    @user-rg4qi3sl6s 4 года назад

    So... no deck code?

  • @cyleonx
    @cyleonx 4 года назад

    I guarantee that Kaelthas is getting nerfed to 8 mana at some point.

  • @demonetizedcontent7312
    @demonetizedcontent7312 4 года назад

    Kripparian looks wierd

  • @gabrielamaya9086
    @gabrielamaya9086 4 года назад

    is this Asmo's cousin? nice hair line.

  • @uchuuseijin
    @uchuuseijin 4 года назад

    a (pronounced uh) is pronounced faster than a (ay) and I. While all three words are one syllable, the first word is only one mora while the latter two have two morae

  • @user-fb9yh3vq8g
    @user-fb9yh3vq8g 4 года назад

    0 Mana spells go brrrrrr

  • @lesiegelad
    @lesiegelad 4 года назад +11

    This actually makes me really upset. Blizzard needs to nerf Kael'thas.

    • @harrygarris6921
      @harrygarris6921 4 года назад +3

      Why? There's nothing broken at all about your opponent playing 40 mana worth of stuff for 8 mana...

    • @Iamone1111
      @Iamone1111 4 года назад +1

      @@harrygarris6921 It'll become like every 4th spell or 5th spell lol and then nobody will use him anymore

    • @poopbuttmcgee
      @poopbuttmcgee 4 года назад +7

      Karl isn’t broken, demon hunter is. Skull will get nerfed into the ground.

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +2

      If anything, touch Skull or Twin Slice.

    • @Karlyr_
      @Karlyr_ 4 года назад +3

      @@poopbuttmcgee not just skull... there's just way too much card draw available for DH.

  • @astridyoung3336
    @astridyoung3336 4 года назад +1

    Winstreak to legend with a similar deck in the first 3 hours. There wasn't even a contest, deck is so busted

  • @jargon850
    @jargon850 4 года назад +1

    everyone talking about how busted this is on day 1 is ridicilous. its gona end up an alright deck, nothing more

  • @ClearForCr7
    @ClearForCr7 4 года назад

    its so hard to just not use anything until you get the full combo,opponent keeps playing powerful minions.

    • @Paradockzz
      @Paradockzz 4 года назад

      don't try to full combo every game, this isn't that kind of deck

    • @ClearForCr7
      @ClearForCr7 4 года назад

      @@Paradockzz there are literally no good minions to play lol only way this deck can play is combo.

    • @Paradockzz
      @Paradockzz 4 года назад

      @@ClearForCr7 OK lmao, literally the first game of the video they play control and don't hit the full combo

    • @ClearForCr7
      @ClearForCr7 4 года назад

      @@Paradockzz you cant show me 1 example you have to play the deck to understand you lack damage you lack board presence most of the time and damage that goes to minions or taunts makes you impossible to finish your opponent

    • @Paradockzz
      @Paradockzz 4 года назад

      @@ClearForCr7 idk what you're talking about, I've played the deck lmao

  • @klaus1352
    @klaus1352 4 года назад +1

    Wow killing people from 25+ health while ignoring all of their taunt minions sure is interactive. Nice job blizzard. I sure am having fun.

    • @Jack-kn1mr
      @Jack-kn1mr 4 года назад

      I mean...I'm having a ton of fun killing them from 25+ health through all of their taunt minions.

  • @Tsumetaiyoru
    @Tsumetaiyoru 4 года назад +1

    ?????

  • @Imbibitorlunaelc
    @Imbibitorlunaelc 4 года назад

    In my list otk added zefris

  • @etherealg3940
    @etherealg3940 4 года назад

    sigh-gil runner pepega

  • @DavidCrossmaybe
    @DavidCrossmaybe 4 года назад

    Wtf just happened

  • @DoingNothingKing
    @DoingNothingKing 4 года назад +1

    Hats off to blizzard they have now managed to COMPLETELY ruin their game... this new class is so beyond OP/Broken even nerfing SOME cards I’m afraid wont be enough... they have made a new class that’s so broken there’s honestly no way fixing it. And if they do, do a insane nerf then the “new hero” will be completely useless and they don’t want that. They want everyone to get excited about a new hero. But whoever on the design team made such a broken new class I truly feel no other class can remotely compete.
    Hats off blizzard you now have managed to complete ruin a multi million dollar game to the ground 👍

    • @HighLanderPonyYT
      @HighLanderPonyYT 4 года назад +3

      If I had a penny for every time I heard this, I'd be able to afford to stay up to date in HS.

  • @3laaghada329
    @3laaghada329 4 года назад +1

    Who else gave up on the game after facing five DH in a row on ladder?

    • @Connoisseur7184
      @Connoisseur7184 4 года назад

      I just started playing Galakrond Rogue again and shit on all of the DH on ladder yesterday. They still make many mistakes, even at higher ranks and since all are trying to get that 1k wins (Asif that's reachable anytime soon) it's great to climb with a deck that got largely untouched by the new expansion and is known very well.

    • @3laaghada329
      @3laaghada329 4 года назад

      @@Connoisseur7184 well it was a great deck before and rogue got buffed hard with the new expansion, I'd say they are equal to DH, meanwhile I play shaman so.... Yeah...

  • @notputtingmynamehere
    @notputtingmynamehere 4 года назад +10

    Cant play fun decks because demonhunter exists. Really wished DH was an april fools joke

    • @harrygarris6921
      @harrygarris6921 4 года назад +4

      Fun decks die to aggro decks and aggro decks are what people play at the start of new expansions. If DH didn't exist you'd just be dying to dragon hunter or something else instead.

    • @notputtingmynamehere
      @notputtingmynamehere 4 года назад

      @@harrygarris6921 this expac looks like it was specifically made for aggro playstyle. Warrior got 1 good control card and shaman / priest dont look like they can control any aggro deck.

    • @buggeritman
      @buggeritman 4 года назад +1

      Part of the problem is that it isn't just an aggro deck. DH's lifesteal, card draw, and board control mean that it obliterates any kind of midrange strategy. Imagine if pirate warrior had a 2/3 lifesteal weapon that it could buff with 8+ attack and you get a sense of why DH seems overtuned.

    • @notputtingmynamehere
      @notputtingmynamehere 4 года назад

      @@buggeritman and a draw 3 cards discounting them by 3 and have the most overstated 1 drop with 0 drawback to it. They are obviously going to nerf the cards, how they made it this far at that powerlevel amazes me

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 4 года назад +3

      @@buggeritman Yeah, they just overcompensated with DH because it's a new class and just gave it cards that can do everything. So it's basically now just a class that does everything well and doesn't really have many weaknesses.

  • @JustinWiwel
    @JustinWiwel 4 года назад +1

    lost all respect for this vid when they called illidan evil

    • @Elidan1012
      @Elidan1012 4 года назад

      He is tho

    • @JustinWiwel
      @JustinWiwel 4 года назад

      @@Elidan1012 no he isnt he literally saved the universe from the burning legion