Getting a few questions about storage space: this is not a service but software. So the amount of storage you get is what you have on your devices that are syncing files together. Nothing is stored in the cloud it's all on computers and devices that you have direct control over.
They have limited free users to only three devices connected to your account - and that includes mobile devices. So for me it dramatically reduces the functionality.
@@LonSeidman Similar to what Lastpass is doing. That's another service that I'm not gonna pay for. If it was cheap -- say $ 1.00 a month, sure. But not at $30/bucks year. I'm planning on moving to BitWarden, but it sucks and doesn't have full features that Lastpass has -- such as easy grouping. Yet, everything else works like a charm, just trying to organize and find stuff isn't that easy nor seemless yet. But, importing & moving over was almost a single-click. THANKFULLY.
Love syncthing. It runs on Android as well so I actually got it to sync the savestate data of my roms between my phone, tablet, Android tv, NAS and PC. So now when I play a game on my Android tv it will then symc the data so I can pick up where I left off on my phone
Thanks for introducing this! I set it up to move Plex OTA recordings from my Plex server at work in a larger TV market to watch at home. Synology NAS to NAS. Works great and easy setup!
I have used Syncthing for a while, mostly to sync files to Shadow. I have though found some things that are not as good as dropbox. 1) I have needed to restart the mac client every now and then, since it would otherwise not sync. 2) There is no iPhone app 3) One time I got files out of sync. When both devices said they where up to date, I deleted one folder, it sync over all deletions exept but two files and gives me an error. It might have been so that the filenames was to long on one of the filesystems for it to sync in the first place, but I got no error at that time. I am considering switching to nextcloud (some benefits, some drawbacks) in the future, but at the moment I’ll continue with syncthing
I was a looking for an open source project that would keep my files in sync, that's when I came across Syncthing. I was super excited, got it all installed and configured, only to find that it doesn't support syncing between a local folder and an external hard drive. What a let down. After uninstalling syncthing I went back to use the rsync command in the terminal. Hopefully, rsyncthing will add support for local hard drives.
I use this to sync movies over to my ShieldTV(500GB) and sync my Android phone pics to a NAS. This can be setup on a RasPi so I want to make a cheeky backup device with a RasPi and a HD attached.
Möbius Sync is a Syncthing client available for iOS, albeit with some limitations due to Apple's security model... Still, better than nothing, I suppose!
Thank you for sharing videos like this. Personally I've been using syncthing for getting original photos from my Android especially when Google will be changing their free storage policy. Also your viewers may want to know is that Syncthing available for Android TV. You can get yourself nice sync setup to get video files to your Shield Pro or just convert your TV to a simple smarter NAS or Backup.
Oh. This is timely. I'll be upgrading a Raspberry Pi based NAS and this would be a good solution to keep everything synced up. I would very much like to see how one way syncing works. I want to automatically unload the camera roll from my Android phone to the NAS. If I move or delete a photo from the NAS, I don't want it to suddenly reappear from the phone.
you could have a personal server, with a domain name, and use something like ftp or http server to not rely at all on remote locators, other than the dns and domain name system
Looks great and perfect timing. I have been using rsync directly, but just added a new computer (a mac mini) as a backup server (since it is so low power). But also want to use it as the master for some web content for a remote web server I have. This looks flexible enough to handle all my use cases.
i've been using this for years now to sync stuff from my phone to the pc.. one issue is that on android you can't sync folders on your sd card unless you are rooted but this is a limitation of android rather than syncthing as far as i know..
Hi, I have a debian-based Q4OS linux distro and I need to connect 4 hard drives with windows and mac backups and I would like to create a server with raid sharing of all hard drives and including a continuous and incremental backup of smartphones too and ipad in the family ... I was thinking about nextcloud, openmediavault or seafile but there would probably be something else missing to perfect everything and for example the search for folders on different file systems and compatibility with android, ipados, mac and windows. also nvidia shield which can act as a nas if it would be enough and without paying plex. Advice? Thank you.
Hello Mr Lon, thank you for a well presented video, I was wondering about this program Syncthing and how it worked. what do you think about Zerotier?, I just came across this new concept yesterday, it looks interesting.
Hi, great video. I followed your instructions to share a folder from my Desktop to my tablet which I use on the go. However, now I'm wondering if I can share the same folder to a second PC at work. I want to work independently on any of my 3 devices and always have the most current version of the files I'm modifying, but I'm a bit confused on how to set up the software for my main PC at home is off while I'm at work. So far I don't experience any problem with 2 devices. How can I set up the software with 3 devices?
I have 25 gb of Dropbox storage from referrals and promotions and never paid a dime. At a training lab in a old job I installed Dropbox on all the computers in the lab getting referral credit and extra storage for each device. After the Dropbox policy change with their restricted number of devices I have not used it at all.
I see that Dropbox laid off11% of its workforce and their COO is quitting. Dropbox seems to get left in the dust especially for the free services where some of the free services offered more storage. They also angered their paid subscribers last year by increasing the subscription prices and giving people more storage even if the subscribers did not want the additional storage.
It seems you’ve implied there are security risks with Synology Drive. What are the risks? I’ve been a user of Synology Drive for years now and love it. Are the open ports on your router that vulnerable given Synology’s use of 2 factor authentication?
Anytime you open your router up there are risks irrespective of platform. There's nothing with Synology currently that's an issue but it doesn't mean there isn't a zero-day or something out there that could make you vulnerable.
Warning. I tried Syncthing a year ago. Probably ok for a small number of files/directories/computers but doesn't scale on Windows. There were showstopping filesystem integrity and performance issues. I spent days debugging the failures and opened issues on their Github. Some Syncthing devs replied with toxic dismissals and closed the issue. However, the lead dev confirmed the issue and reopened it. I see from the comments below that issues are still present. I also tested Dropbox, Google and others. The only winner *at scale* was OneDrive.
I have onedrive for free as a teacher but onedrive is much slower to sync than dropbox, not reliable to have files moved from one device to another in real time
Didn't work for me. I did not succeed in making it use a direct connection, and with relays the speed is atrocious, was less than 500 Kbit/s for me. 200MB was syncing like half an hour, not really usable. The documentation for setting a direct connection is very poor and hard to understand, there is no concrete process being described for that.
Great video. Thanks for showing us this. I really hope you will keep showing us applications like this that we can run at home and remove external services. I only wish that I could find a good email server that had rules, where I could move away from Gmail one day. Because I have TOO MANY gmail accounts that are forwarding emails everywhere. Be nice to just have a simple email server that I set up and run at home for my single domain that has a separate email address for anyone and everyone.
be very careful with this synchronisation program make sure your master storage unit especially for videos music and and long-term downloads and photos are set to never delete .... otherwise if you delete it from one end because you needed the space it will delete at the other Master end take it for me I had a bunch of music videos and I remove them off of my phone and they got removed off of my network-attached storage make sure the settings you use are the settings you want each and every folder I highly recommend anything from your cell phone or low storage device is told that the primary storage a large mass does not delete it
@@DavidM2002 If you want to be a troll go ahead doesn't phase me.... When it's bunch of ones and zeros talking....but I'm like you I actually went to school.... I can perfectly read what you wrote without even trying.... And you tried really hard to make it difficult didn't you pathetic...
Getting a few questions about storage space: this is not a service but software. So the amount of storage you get is what you have on your devices that are syncing files together. Nothing is stored in the cloud it's all on computers and devices that you have direct control over.
Why did you say "now that Dropbox is kicking us freeloaders off the platform essentially"? Was there an announcement I missed?
They have limited free users to only three devices connected to your account - and that includes mobile devices. So for me it dramatically reduces the functionality.
@@LonSeidman Similar to what Lastpass is doing. That's another service that I'm not gonna pay for. If it was cheap -- say $ 1.00 a month, sure. But not at $30/bucks year. I'm planning on moving to BitWarden, but it sucks and doesn't have full features that Lastpass has -- such as easy grouping. Yet, everything else works like a charm, just trying to organize and find stuff isn't that easy nor seemless yet. But, importing & moving over was almost a single-click. THANKFULLY.
I am amazed at how quickly you learn a new product and are able to turn around and teach us in a cogent and coherent way. Thanks Lon.
Thanks for the video! Probably one of the better tutorials I've seen for setting up Syncthing.
Love syncthing. It runs on Android as well so I actually got it to sync the savestate data of my roms between my phone, tablet, Android tv, NAS and PC. So now when I play a game on my Android tv it will then symc the data so I can pick up where I left off on my phone
Thanks for introducing this! I set it up to move Plex OTA recordings from my Plex server at work in a larger TV market to watch at home. Synology NAS to NAS. Works great and easy setup!
Thanks!
Thank you for your support!
Excellent explanation. I've been using Syncthing for a couple years and would be lost without it.
Thank you for the video. Your is the only one that explains how the discovery works. I would like too see a one way sync video.
I would love to see more of these videos about alternatives :D
I have used Syncthing for a while, mostly to sync files to Shadow. I have though found some things that are not as good as dropbox.
1) I have needed to restart the mac client every now and then, since it would otherwise not sync.
2) There is no iPhone app
3) One time I got files out of sync. When both devices said they where up to date, I deleted one folder, it sync over all deletions exept but two files and gives me an error. It might have been so that the filenames was to long on one of the filesystems for it to sync in the first place, but I got no error at that time.
I am considering switching to nextcloud (some benefits, some drawbacks) in the future, but at the moment I’ll continue with syncthing
I was a looking for an open source project that would keep my files in sync, that's when I came across Syncthing.
I was super excited, got it all installed and configured, only to find that it doesn't support syncing between a local folder and an external hard drive.
What a let down. After uninstalling syncthing I went back to use the rsync command in the terminal.
Hopefully, rsyncthing will add support for local hard drives.
I use this to sync movies over to my ShieldTV(500GB) and sync my Android phone pics to a NAS. This can be setup on a RasPi so I want to make a cheeky backup device with a RasPi and a HD attached.
That's pretty neat! I was actually recently looking for a program that does this.
One thing to add. For Android TV I use Syncthing-fork as when I started to use it it was more stable and had more features and better interface.
This video is pure gold..
Great video! Always love the ones where you share about the tools you use for your own workflow
Möbius Sync is a Syncthing client available for iOS, albeit with some limitations due to Apple's security model... Still, better than nothing, I suppose!
I'll check it out!
Excellent as always. Thanks. Yes, more when you can please.
Great video. Will you be doing a installation tutorial using a Synology NAS?
Thank you for sharing videos like this. Personally I've been using syncthing for getting original photos from my Android especially when Google will be changing their free storage policy. Also your viewers may want to know is that Syncthing available for Android TV. You can get yourself nice sync setup to get video files to your Shield Pro or just convert your TV to a simple smarter NAS or Backup.
Concept makes sense, wondering how machines find eachother if not on same network. Tailscale?
Nice timing - I’ve been considering dropping Dropbox in favor of something running on my Qnap.
Oh. This is timely. I'll be upgrading a Raspberry Pi based NAS and this would be a good solution to keep everything synced up. I would very much like to see how one way syncing works. I want to automatically unload the camera roll from my Android phone to the NAS. If I move or delete a photo from the NAS, I don't want it to suddenly reappear from the phone.
This looks useful, definitely gonna check out
Hey @Lon.TV did you leak your IP address at 13:27 ? Or what IP:port is that?
Nope I was connected to a VPN so my IP wouldn't show up :)
you could have a personal server, with a domain name, and use something like ftp or http server to not rely at all on remote locators, other than the dns and domain name system
Hi, Thanks for wonderful content. Is there an app for Iphone ?
Looks great and perfect timing. I have been using rsync directly, but just added a new computer (a mac mini) as a backup server (since it is so low power). But also want to use it as the master for some web content for a remote web server I have. This looks flexible enough to handle all my use cases.
Very good and clear explanation
i've been using this for years now to sync stuff from my phone to the pc.. one issue is that on android you can't sync folders on your sd card unless you are rooted but this is a limitation of android rather than syncthing as far as i know..
Very clear, simple, and easy to understand - nice job!
lack of iOS killed it for me. I was so excited.
Hi, Could you tell us your thought about it, two years later?
Hi, I have a debian-based Q4OS linux distro and I need to connect 4 hard drives with windows and mac backups and I would like to create a server with raid sharing of all hard drives and including a continuous and incremental backup of smartphones too and ipad in the family ... I was thinking about nextcloud, openmediavault or seafile but there would probably be something else missing to perfect everything and for example the search for folders on different file systems and compatibility with android, ipados, mac and windows. also nvidia shield which can act as a nas if it would be enough and without paying plex. Advice? Thank you.
Nice! I was just looking into this for a TrueNAS box.
Hello Mr Lon, thank you for a well presented video, I was wondering about this program Syncthing and how it worked. what do you think about Zerotier?, I just came across this new concept yesterday, it looks interesting.
Oh so timely! Thank you so much! Excellent as always
Hi, great video. I followed your instructions to share a folder from my Desktop to my tablet which I use on the go. However, now I'm wondering if I can share the same folder to a second PC at work. I want to work independently on any of my 3 devices and always have the most current version of the files I'm modifying, but I'm a bit confused on how to set up the software for my main PC at home is off while I'm at work. So far I don't experience any problem with 2 devices. How can I set up the software with 3 devices?
Same process - just add it to the chain.
@@LonSeidman Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer. I do appreciate it.
I have 25 gb of Dropbox storage from referrals and promotions and never paid a dime. At a training lab in a old job I installed Dropbox on all the computers in the lab getting referral credit and extra storage for each device. After the Dropbox policy change with their restricted number of devices I have not used it at all.
I see that Dropbox laid off11% of its workforce and their COO is quitting. Dropbox seems to get left in the dust especially for the free services where some of the free services offered more storage. They also angered their paid subscribers last year by increasing the subscription prices and giving people more storage even if the subscribers did not want the additional storage.
Having the Steve Gibson seal of approval on this products speaks huge volumes. I trust anything he approves and what he says.
I use dropbox for file storage and streaming to my website you have any options if so please share
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Did you do a follow-up video for different scenarios
It seems you’ve implied there are security risks with Synology Drive. What are the risks? I’ve been a user of Synology Drive for years now and love it. Are the open ports on your router that vulnerable given Synology’s use of 2 factor authentication?
Anytime you open your router up there are risks irrespective of platform. There's nothing with Synology currently that's an issue but it doesn't mean there isn't a zero-day or something out there that could make you vulnerable.
Awesome I've been looking for something like this that plays nice with windows. Thanks
As far as I know the public folder no longer works in dropbox. Did I miss how much megabytes, gigabytes, terabytes that we can we get?
Thank you! very helpful and thoughtful tutorial 😍
Do you need to port forward for that discovery-relay stuff? If yes, can I just restrict Syncthing to LAN only?
No the discovery servers allow it to work without port forwarding. But you could disable that feature to have it just work locally.
Very cool thanks for the demo!
would this work for streaming videos as well. If so, when i turn my computer off will my videos to my website still be playable
If you are syncing the videos to your web server yes.
Can this sync service handle something like git diffs for text? (For conflicts)
thank you... very good video
Warning. I tried Syncthing a year ago. Probably ok for a small number of files/directories/computers but doesn't scale on Windows. There were showstopping filesystem integrity and performance issues. I spent days debugging the failures and opened issues on their Github. Some Syncthing devs replied with toxic dismissals and closed the issue. However, the lead dev confirmed the issue and reopened it. I see from the comments below that issues are still present. I also tested Dropbox, Google and others. The only winner *at scale* was OneDrive.
I have onedrive for free as a teacher but onedrive is much slower to sync than dropbox, not reliable to have files moved from one device to another in real time
Could you define ‘at scale’ please? What size data set are we talking here?
The Macs behind you made me wonder when this video was recorded😂
I installed it on my Synology NAS and it is says it's Running but I can not find where to open the interface?
Found it, I had to click on the URL
Didn't work for me. I did not succeed in making it use a direct connection, and with relays the speed is atrocious, was less than 500 Kbit/s for me.
200MB was syncing like half an hour, not really usable.
The documentation for setting a direct connection is very poor and hard to understand, there is no concrete process being described for that.
Just curious, why wasn't Google drive an option? Or was that not enough storage?
Not enough storage
Could you please share which tool you use on Mac to RDP windows 10?
I use jump although in this case we are using the Shadow game streaming service
Looks Good. Also try Resilio
Great video. Thanks for showing us this. I really hope you will keep showing us applications like this that we can run at home and remove external services. I only wish that I could find a good email server that had rules, where I could move away from Gmail one day. Because I have TOO MANY gmail accounts that are forwarding emails everywhere. Be nice to just have a simple email server that I set up and run at home for my single domain that has a separate email address for anyone and everyone.
Is it via cloud? Or both pcs should be online?
No cloud - the computers will sync up when they come online.
@@LonSeidman thanks for your reply. Can it be used to sync a folder on my PC to iCloud
@@MrWanted000 I suppose it’s possible to have a folder living in your iCloud sync folder but I’m not sure if your mac’s permissions will allow it
Any size limitations?
As much storage as you have locally!
Is there an installer for the new M1 ARM Macs?
Right now it’s running in Rosetta but appears to run ok
Tonido is the program I use.
Does it work on Chromebook?
You could probably install it via the Linux beta
My Chromebook stopped updating and I'm at
Version 65.0.3325.209 (Official Build) (64-bit)
which as far as I know doesn't do the neat
Linux stuff.
> One way sync
That sounds like an easy way to setup a render box.
be very careful with this synchronisation program make sure your master storage unit especially for videos music and and long-term downloads and photos are set to never delete .... otherwise if you delete it from one end because you needed the space it will delete at the other Master end take it for me I had a bunch of music videos and I remove them off of my phone and they got removed off of my network-attached storage make sure the settings you use are the settings you want each and every folder I highly recommend anything from your cell phone or low storage device is told that the primary storage a large mass does not delete it
There is an option for one way sync
@@DavidM2002 If you want to be a troll go ahead doesn't phase me.... When it's bunch of ones and zeros talking....but I'm like you I actually went to school.... I can perfectly read what you wrote without even trying.... And you tried really hard to make it difficult didn't you pathetic...
Remember to Donate to services like this to keep them going!! Freeloaders 🤣😂
a PI and nextcloud.... easy - cheap....